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#44 - chiefrunnyjeans (12/31/2012) [-]
Actually there are other ways people can kill eachother. Making guns illegal won't change that. Killing will just become more brutal with swords, pipe bombs, and still guns. The reason killers choose schools, movie theatres etc. is because they are low risk. They know no one will have a gun so they can just walk in and shoot it up, whereas a bank robbery can lead to getting shot (which recently happened). The NRA is 100% correct that an armed gaurd in every school, just like a bank, will protect more lives. Making guns illegal is taking them away from those who follow the law, not those who break it.
#41 - Fgner (12/28/2012) [-]
> Who cares if they got them legally? If a criminal wants a gun, and it's legal - why not? If a criminal wants a gun and it's not, buy one on the black market, make a homemade bomb (extremely easy), or just go stab the shit out of people.
> Actually, the EU has worse/more public shootings than us. Less reported though. Most of our gun related crime is gang related. Public shootings are rare but are reported everywhere for weeks/months, so it seems like we're worse.
> Mental institutions get enough money. But the applicant has to have a family member ienroll them or enroll themselves, we can't just go grabbing people "oh you might be crazy." Thus, the loons don't get in when they should. It's not a matter of funding, it's a matter of identification and retrieval.
> Don't blame Republicans. I hate it when people have to point fingers at the people they don't like and generalize. Make a point instead of bashing with bullshit.
> Actually, I don't think it would have been all that much harder to have made a simple bomb you could google and blown up half the school instead. And there are plenty of weapons other than real rifles, chainsaws for instance.
> Can I hear what injuries they had? I'll be brutal here, I'd rather have dead children, then children who got beaten in the head and are vegetables now.
> I believe heavier regulation for sure. Just not making guns illegal complety. Hefty background checks, limiting factors like number, size, type , et cetera. I support that completely.
But again, not many of these are actually innocent civilian deaths. And I'm not really convinced that taking away people's right to have a gun (and therefore some of the fear of committing crimes) is such a great idea. Heavy regulation, yes, weapons should be for self defense, and sometimes hunting (not my boat so I can't say much here).
#45 - chiefrunnyjeans (12/31/2012) [-]
I agree somewhat. If by heavy regulation you mean background checks and not selling to the mentally ill/criminals then I agree. But everything else will fail as you can see in the EU where illegal weapons are used every day to kill innocent people and defending yourself can land you in jail for life.
#23 - xxxsonic fanxxx (12/28/2012) [-]
Finally some sense. Guns are not the answer.
#21 - comehonorfacetwice (12/28/2012) [-]
But the issue isn't that I, as a 19 year old American, could get my hands on a legal gun. The issue is that I, as a 19 year old American, could get my hands on a fully automatic gun of any sort without much trouble at all (illegally of course). If I was so inclined (and had the money), I could by the end of January, have, in my possession, an RPG, a mounted gun, armor piercing rounds, etc. If we restrict legal guns, people inclined to murder will get their guns illegally. It is not a difficult feat at all. The issue we should look at is, as you said, increased funding (hopefully privatization) of mental institutions, and stopping the sale of illegal weapons. The fact that I could easily get an illegal assault rifle (having lived in one of the top 100 richest counties, attending a top 500 ranked high school, being an Eagle Scout, having grown up in an altogether 'clean' environment) is what is scary. I have little exposure to the violence of an inner city neighborhood, little exposure to gang violence, the drug trade, arms trade, etc. Yet, I still know people who could get me nearly any weapon I wanted within a month. Clearly, some sort of background check is needed. But more than that, we need to stem the flow of illegal weapons into (and out of, AG Eric Holder) this country.
#42 - Fgner (12/28/2012) [-]
I thought I put this in the OP:
I do believe in regulation of weapons. Just not the ban of them. People should be able to have side arms for self defense, maybe a couple rifles for hunting (not people hunting). But I agree, it's silly to have assault rifles and RPGs and stuff as a civilian. They can't be used for anything but bling and trouble, and the bling ain't worth it of course.
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