I didn't actually read the Darth Plaguies book, which I think has most of the details on it, so idk :/

okay, list of things rey did with no apparent experience/training

- Flew the Flacon, at a level of competence that allowed her to not only evade, but help destroy two Tie/fo Fighters.

- Force Pulled a lightsaber from another highly powerful and well trained force user

- Force Persuaded an initially resistant target with no training whatsover - in mind tricks or force use in general

- Fought off a highly powerful and well trained Lightsaber duelist despite having never held a lightsaber before in her life.

also, luke wasn't shown force-pulling a saber until episode 5 - 4 years after he discovered his force sensitivity, giving him plenty of time to practice what is a pretty basic technique.

all examples of mind trick we've seen being used have been by highly-competent Jedi - the least experienced would be Luke in ep VI, and he's clearly achieved a decent level of mastery - certainly one befitting a Jedi Knight.

On top of this, mind trick is a whole different kettle of fish to force pull. force pull is one of the most basic tricks, it's just raw power and direction. mind trick is incredible subtle, and has almost never been used without years of training. the only example I can think of where an untrained jedi used mind-trick successfully was Corran Horn - but his family is strange - the men are incapable of using physical force powers (push, pull, etc) but are exceptionally gifted with things like mind trick.

also, the blaster bolts Luke deflected weren't travelling at light speed. blaster bolts consist of small pockets of gas which are superheated and then propelled towards an enemy - not simple laser beams. as such, blaster bolts actually move significantly slower than bullets.

Kylo Rens powers - while mostly unseen - are less inexplicable.

- Freezing the blaster bolt: cool, and new, but no reason it can't be done.

- Invading the minds of others: not all that new. usually done by sith, rather than jedi. Revan used a variant of this to obtain knowledge of the Rakatan Language on Lehon.

- Knocking people unconcious: this has been done before, and it's pretty basic. far less impressive than mind-trick, for example.

- Paralysing enemies: probably just the same as the blaster-freezing technique.

so, in total, we've got two pretty easily-explained powers and the blaster-freezing stunt, which is pretty new.

but the thing to remember here: Kylo is not like Rey

things Kylo has that Rey doens't:

- Exceptionally strong connection to the force: we know Kylo has this, Rey hasn't been confirmed.

- Several years of training under a Jedi Master: Kylo was taught by Luke for several years.

- Several years of training under a Sith Lord/Other Master level Dark Jedi: Snoke is clearly on par with or stronger than Luke (or Luke would've beaten his ass to Byss and back by now). Kylo was (and still sort of is) his apprentice.

- a span of nearly two decades in which he was aware of, and able to experiment with, his force abilities: even without teching, Kylo's had nearly 20 years to test things out and practice his skills. that's plenty to discover a new skill or practice a taught one.

and most of the above applies to his lightsaber skills as much as it does his force abilities.

simply put, I'm not saying that Rey's skills are more impressive than Kylo's - but Kylo has a reasonable excuse for knowing his. Rey doesn't.

true, revan is no longer canon. but it's the closest example that I can find, and many things in the new canon are based off things in the old.

again, the injury would hurt him, but it's still no contest. the fight lasted long enough that the difference in skill should have made all the difference. Rey doesn't know saber combat, and people who don't know it make mistakes far too fast and too often for kylo not to have beaten her.

and yes, the bolt-freeze was one of the cooler things in that movie. along with Poe and the Resurgent-class.

both snoke and Luke would have trained kylo with a saber. it's a vital part of a jedi/sith's identity, and is their best defence against blasters - not just other force-users. plus, neither snoke nor luke had the kind of time constraints yoda did, so they would've covered the basics of each topic (force and saber) and moved on from there. heck, the fact that kylo has a saber means he's probably good with it. if you're not, you're apt to lose a limb.

she salvaged parts from ships all over jakku, yes. ships that crashed there in a battle nearly 30 years ago. any working craft would almost certainly have been recovered long ago, and if she had a working ship, she could be doing all sorts of work, not just salvaging.

I will admit - her technological knowledge fits. she's spent her life around tech, so it makes sense she'd know it. the rest, less so.

she also some how flew a ship despite never getting in one prior with such skill that she some how physically lined up the shot for fin. Also reversed mind read kylo, nice of you to forget that. Oh, she also did the mind trick, and pretty much everything else, within either the first day or month of learning that jedi -aren't- a myth and that han solo is real, in fact all of it is. Let's also forget that merging with another mind is an advance technique. Moving shit, sure, that's like year one stuff.

Kylo's shit? Everything he did we've seen before done except for the bolt bit, that's bull shit but i'mma let it slide cause it was new, unexpected, and pretty cool to look at, as well as never done again by some one else.

You're telling me the new girl in karate class beat the guy who beat the rest of the dojo himself and has been at it for years because she only had more nanomachines than the other guy, but the other guy already has shown he has a fuckton of nanomachines.

Clone wars animated is still canon.

Saw people be held still by the force in it, paralyse too. Mind reading was done in it by I think darth maul. even a lot of knock out force actions.

ahhhh, yeah you are correct