I was trying to make a civil effort to express my appreciation for science despite the stereotype that Christians reject science, but okay.

Found it:
“The way to make a million dollars is to start a religion.”
and
"Make money. Make more money. Make other people produce so as to make money."

The creator of this "religion", Hubbard even said something about founding this church only to make money.
Too bad I can't find the original quote.

Have you considered writting play writes?

No, I don't think I'd be very good at it.

Of course we cannot stop sadness and anger, but we can suppress much of the aggression and hate, which are not the same as sadness and anger.

I agree.

And he is also a machine and most machines are made of metal and metal does rust. Clever. They? Are the others that comprise "they" the same as the character, or compassionate for him? Or are they the people making his life difficult?

That's actually quite clever, however no part of him literally does become mechanical, it could be a good metaphor for his mind, thank you for that.
They are compassionate for him, you could say.

Have you considered writting play writes?

No, I don't think I'd be very good at it.

What is the new name? I really like the name Orphan, its thoughtful.

Rust, which is a metaphor for a place they will spend a large part of the story.

And he is also a machine and most machines are made of metal and metal does rust. Clever. They? Are the others that comprise "they" the same as the character, or compassionate for him? Or are they the people making his life difficult?

That's actually quite clever, however no part of him literally does become mechanical, it could be a good metaphor for his mind, thank you for that.
They are compassionate for him, you could say.

Have you considered writting play writes?

No, I don't think I'd be very good at it.

And the reason were in an unhappy world is because we as humans are choosing this life! Only we can change it, because only we have caused this, thats what im calling for, what im asking for, what im demanding, that people can just be accepting, kind, friendly and loving, its so much easier than youd think and believe me youll be alot happier

It's also impossible, because we can never change all humans like this, and as long as people are acting with unhappiness there will be problems that can only be dealt with causing the same, and otherwise, animals, natural disasters and accidents would still cause similar problems.

Besides, honestly, I really find the world a better place without everyone being happy, because happiness feels much better after times of sadness, and overcoming problems, where the majority has unhappiness of some sort involved, feels amazing and it's an important part of developing us.

Of course we cannot stop sadness and anger, but we can suppress much of the aggression and hate, which are not the same as sadness and anger.

I agree.

Why is it called orphan?

Because when the main character is changed, he also feels as though he has been reborn because he is simply so different, and the way he is changed isn't caused by any specific people, so he feels like his new self doesn't have any parents.

The name has been changed now, but what I said is still part of the story.

What is the new name? I really like the name Orphan, its thoughtful.

Rust, which is a metaphor for a place they will spend a large part of the story.

And he is also a machine and most machines are made of metal and metal does rust. Clever. They? Are the others that comprise "they" the same as the character, or compassionate for him? Or are they the people making his life difficult?

That's actually quite clever, however no part of him literally does become mechanical, it could be a good metaphor for his mind, thank you for that.
They are compassionate for him, you could say.

Have you considered writting play writes?

No, I don't think I'd be very good at it.

Being a Sci-Fi you mean literally less human right? Like a creature?

More like a machine actually, but yes.

Why is it called orphan?

Because when the main character is changed, he also feels as though he has been reborn because he is simply so different, and the way he is changed isn't caused by any specific people, so he feels like his new self doesn't have any parents.

The name has been changed now, but what I said is still part of the story.

What is the new name? I really like the name Orphan, its thoughtful.

Rust, which is a metaphor for a place they will spend a large part of the story.

And he is also a machine and most machines are made of metal and metal does rust. Clever. They? Are the others that comprise "they" the same as the character, or compassionate for him? Or are they the people making his life difficult?

That's actually quite clever, however no part of him literally does become mechanical, it could be a good metaphor for his mind, thank you for that.
They are compassionate for him, you could say.

Have you considered writting play writes?

No, I don't think I'd be very good at it.

Oh by the way i was wondering and going to ask before, what does "Orphan" have to say about humanity? Is it criticizing or praising?

Oh, it's not about humanity in that sense, it's about the main characters humanity, as an event early in the story changes him in a way that constantly makes him grow less human.

Being a Sci-Fi you mean literally less human right? Like a creature?

More like a machine actually, but yes.

Why is it called orphan?

Because when the main character is changed, he also feels as though he has been reborn because he is simply so different, and the way he is changed isn't caused by any specific people, so he feels like his new self doesn't have any parents.

The name has been changed now, but what I said is still part of the story.

What is the new name? I really like the name Orphan, its thoughtful.

Rust, which is a metaphor for a place they will spend a large part of the story.

And he is also a machine and most machines are made of metal and metal does rust. Clever. They? Are the others that comprise "they" the same as the character, or compassionate for him? Or are they the people making his life difficult?

That's actually quite clever, however no part of him literally does become mechanical, it could be a good metaphor for his mind, thank you for that.
They are compassionate for him, you could say.

Have you considered writting play writes?

No, I don't think I'd be very good at it.

But if it is not making people happy then it makes them unhappy does it not? And then if you are making people unhappy what type of person are you? And i do not think conversation is a crime, we are having a conversation right now and i am enjoying it because i am being treated equal, and being respected and i am happy.

The thing is that we're not in a world based on happiness, we all wish we were but were not, and therefor everything can't be solved without getting down.
For example, if a bully punched me, I'd punch back, that'd make the bully unhappy, but it wouldn't make me a worse person.

And the reason were in an unhappy world is because we as humans are choosing this life! Only we can change it, because only we have caused this, thats what im calling for, what im asking for, what im demanding, that people can just be accepting, kind, friendly and loving, its so much easier than youd think and believe me youll be alot happier

It's also impossible, because we can never change all humans like this, and as long as people are acting with unhappiness there will be problems that can only be dealt with causing the same, and otherwise, animals, natural disasters and accidents would still cause similar problems.

Besides, honestly, I really find the world a better place without everyone being happy, because happiness feels much better after times of sadness, and overcoming problems, where the majority has unhappiness of some sort involved, feels amazing and it's an important part of developing us.

Of course we cannot stop sadness and anger, but we can suppress much of the aggression and hate, which are not the same as sadness and anger.

I agree.

Spread their religion for what? Fame? Fortune? What happened to bettering the world? Morals? HELPING AND LOVING THY NEIGHBOR! And i follow many teachings of Jesus Christ, in my own opinion he was the closest to a perfect human, and he taught man to be respectful and to be caring and how to love others, and i accept Jesus as a role but i am not a christian because christian beliefs are not helping me become respectful. Shouldn't you be spreading religion to help people live better lifes?

But well anyways, a lot of Christians, for example, spread their religion because they believe it is the truth, and it says that anyone who doesn't do this gets sent to hell for all eternity, so they're just trying to save us from an eternity in hell.
Also, please stop acting like making conversation is a crime, not absolutely every single action done by every single person in this world has to be about making others happy.

Oh by the way i was wondering and going to ask before, what does "Orphan" have to say about humanity? Is it criticizing or praising?

Oh, it's not about humanity in that sense, it's about the main characters humanity, as an event early in the story changes him in a way that constantly makes him grow less human.

Being a Sci-Fi you mean literally less human right? Like a creature?

More like a machine actually, but yes.

Why is it called orphan?

Because when the main character is changed, he also feels as though he has been reborn because he is simply so different, and the way he is changed isn't caused by any specific people, so he feels like his new self doesn't have any parents.

The name has been changed now, but what I said is still part of the story.

What is the new name? I really like the name Orphan, its thoughtful.

Rust, which is a metaphor for a place they will spend a large part of the story.

And he is also a machine and most machines are made of metal and metal does rust. Clever. They? Are the others that comprise "they" the same as the character, or compassionate for him? Or are they the people making his life difficult?

That's actually quite clever, however no part of him literally does become mechanical, it could be a good metaphor for his mind, thank you for that.
They are compassionate for him, you could say.

Have you considered writting play writes?

No, I don't think I'd be very good at it.

But if it is not making people happy then it makes them unhappy does it not? And then if you are making people unhappy what type of person are you? And i do not think conversation is a crime, we are having a conversation right now and i am enjoying it because i am being treated equal, and being respected and i am happy.

The thing is that we're not in a world based on happiness, we all wish we were but were not, and therefor everything can't be solved without getting down.
For example, if a bully punched me, I'd punch back, that'd make the bully unhappy, but it wouldn't make me a worse person.

And the reason were in an unhappy world is because we as humans are choosing this life! Only we can change it, because only we have caused this, thats what im calling for, what im asking for, what im demanding, that people can just be accepting, kind, friendly and loving, its so much easier than youd think and believe me youll be alot happier

It's also impossible, because we can never change all humans like this, and as long as people are acting with unhappiness there will be problems that can only be dealt with causing the same, and otherwise, animals, natural disasters and accidents would still cause similar problems.

Besides, honestly, I really find the world a better place without everyone being happy, because happiness feels much better after times of sadness, and overcoming problems, where the majority has unhappiness of some sort involved, feels amazing and it's an important part of developing us.

Of course we cannot stop sadness and anger, but we can suppress much of the aggression and hate, which are not the same as sadness and anger.

I agree.

But why has it become socially acceptable to ask these questions? Why is it that people feel obligated to ask? I thought religion was sacred

Curiosity still, it's about knowing just a little more about your friends. Also, a lot of religions are about spreading the word about themselves, so a lot of people don't really mind. Religion might be sacred, but that doesn't mean they have to be incredibly private.

Also, a lot of people, like me, find it fun to talk about religion, not necessarily argue, but just talk, and it has provided me with lots of great conversation.

Spread their religion for what? Fame? Fortune? What happened to bettering the world? Morals? HELPING AND LOVING THY NEIGHBOR! And i follow many teachings of Jesus Christ, in my own opinion he was the closest to a perfect human, and he taught man to be respectful and to be caring and how to love others, and i accept Jesus as a role but i am not a christian because christian beliefs are not helping me become respectful. Shouldn't you be spreading religion to help people live better lifes?

But well anyways, a lot of Christians, for example, spread their religion because they believe it is the truth, and it says that anyone who doesn't do this gets sent to hell for all eternity, so they're just trying to save us from an eternity in hell.
Also, please stop acting like making conversation is a crime, not absolutely every single action done by every single person in this world has to be about making others happy.

Oh by the way i was wondering and going to ask before, what does "Orphan" have to say about humanity? Is it criticizing or praising?

Oh, it's not about humanity in that sense, it's about the main characters humanity, as an event early in the story changes him in a way that constantly makes him grow less human.

Being a Sci-Fi you mean literally less human right? Like a creature?

More like a machine actually, but yes.

Why is it called orphan?

Because when the main character is changed, he also feels as though he has been reborn because he is simply so different, and the way he is changed isn't caused by any specific people, so he feels like his new self doesn't have any parents.

The name has been changed now, but what I said is still part of the story.

What is the new name? I really like the name Orphan, its thoughtful.

Rust, which is a metaphor for a place they will spend a large part of the story.

And he is also a machine and most machines are made of metal and metal does rust. Clever. They? Are the others that comprise "they" the same as the character, or compassionate for him? Or are they the people making his life difficult?

That's actually quite clever, however no part of him literally does become mechanical, it could be a good metaphor for his mind, thank you for that.
They are compassionate for him, you could say.

Have you considered writting play writes?

No, I don't think I'd be very good at it.

But if it is not making people happy then it makes them unhappy does it not? And then if you are making people unhappy what type of person are you? And i do not think conversation is a crime, we are having a conversation right now and i am enjoying it because i am being treated equal, and being respected and i am happy.

The thing is that we're not in a world based on happiness, we all wish we were but were not, and therefor everything can't be solved without getting down.
For example, if a bully punched me, I'd punch back, that'd make the bully unhappy, but it wouldn't make me a worse person.

And the reason were in an unhappy world is because we as humans are choosing this life! Only we can change it, because only we have caused this, thats what im calling for, what im asking for, what im demanding, that people can just be accepting, kind, friendly and loving, its so much easier than youd think and believe me youll be alot happier

It's also impossible, because we can never change all humans like this, and as long as people are acting with unhappiness there will be problems that can only be dealt with causing the same, and otherwise, animals, natural disasters and accidents would still cause similar problems.

Besides, honestly, I really find the world a better place without everyone being happy, because happiness feels much better after times of sadness, and overcoming problems, where the majority has unhappiness of some sort involved, feels amazing and it's an important part of developing us.

Of course we cannot stop sadness and anger, but we can suppress much of the aggression and hate, which are not the same as sadness and anger.

I agree.

Ok now you're bitching out.

No, I didn't feel like continuing this discussion as it'll be impossible to convince him that anything at all is more logical than god.

"basically everything is more logical than god"

how so?

i think you'll have a tough time arguing that this explanation is more logically sound than God

why do you like to have the same discussions twice?

this discussion isn't exactly the same as any other discussion i've had. i'm hoping that people will bring up new things to consider

well alrighty, fair enough

I don't have to, basically everything is more logical than god, and it's hardly the only theory.

Ok now you're bitching out.

No, I didn't feel like continuing this discussion as it'll be impossible to convince him that anything at all is more logical than god.

"basically everything is more logical than god"

how so?

sets the problem back a step. what caused this universe? and if this universe is timeless, then it also has to be immaterial, since material things are made of moving particles(no time=no movement)

For all we know this universe didn't have to have particles in it, it could be made of something entirely else than neutrons and protons and such, from the ground up.

i think you'll have a tough time arguing that this explanation is more logically sound than God

why do you like to have the same discussions twice?

this discussion isn't exactly the same as any other discussion i've had. i'm hoping that people will bring up new things to consider

well alrighty, fair enough

I don't have to, basically everything is more logical than god, and it's hardly the only theory.

Ok now you're bitching out.

No, I didn't feel like continuing this discussion as it'll be impossible to convince him that anything at all is more logical than god.

"basically everything is more logical than god"

how so?

I only have the freedom to do so for as long as a law doesn't get through, or I would if I was an american citizen, but I'm sure others share my concern.
However I get your point now and I'm sorry for not understanding fully.