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, Easiest game of spot the atheist who thinks he's better than people that believe in God so far
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Easiest game of spot the atheist who thinks he's better than people that believe in God so far
Well, I personally wouldn't say 'better' but I do tend to think that I have more critical thinking skills than someone who believes in unicorns and talking snakes.
There was never a unicorn mentioned though.
King James ver.
Numbers 23:22 “God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.”
Numbers 24:8 “God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.”
Job 39:9 “Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?”
Job 39:10 “Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?”
Psalms 29:6 “He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.”
Psalms 92:10 “But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.”
Deuteronomy 33:17 “His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.”
Psalms 22:21 “Save me from the lion’s mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.”
Isaiah 34:7 “And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.
I chose them because they are indeed mentioned, same as the talking snake. It's kind of an irrelevant argument to say "well we didn't have THIS imaginary creature" while it contains talking snakes and other fanciful myths.
I could have just as easily said someone who believes in Santa or Elves. They've got just as much evidence for their existence as anything in the Bible, but people tend to get a little uppity when you compare God to Santa, since it's a common comparison.
I see where we miss-communicated. This is what my ver. says:
Numbers 23:22 "God is bringing them out of Egypt. He is like the horns of a wild bull for them."
Numbers 24:8 "God is bringing him out of Egypt; He is like the horns of a wild bull for them. He will consume the nations, his oppressors, And their bones he will gnaw, and he will shatter them with his arrows."
Job 39:9-10 "9. Is the wild bull willing to serve you? Will it spend the night in your stable? 10. Will you hold a wild bull to the furrow with a rope, Or will it follow you to plow the valley?"
Psalms 29:6 "He makes Lebʹa·non skip like a calf, And Sirʹi·on like a young wild bull."
Psalms 92:10 "But you will exalt my strength like that of a wild bull; I will moisten my skin with fresh oil."
Deuteronomy 33:17 "His splendor is like that of a firstborn bull, And his horns are the horns of a wild bull. With them he will push peoples All together to the ends of the earth. They are the tens of thousands of Eʹphra·im, And they are the thousands of Ma·nasʹseh."
Psalms 22:21 "Save me from the mouth of the lion and the horns of wild bulls; Answer and save me."
Isaiah 34:7 "The wild bulls will go down with them, The young bulls with the powerful ones. Their land will be drenched in blood, And their dust will be soaked with fat."
This is the first I've ever heard of unicorns in the bible.
My ver. is the "New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (2013 Revision)", published by The Watchtower of the Jehovah's Witnesses.
Honestly I just searched King James bible since that's the one I am most familiar with. My grandparents keep one and I used to read it whenever I visited.
I myself recently got my own place and I do not own my own bible.
Okay. Good luck with your own place. Shit's rough man.
The word unicorn is pretty much
in King James ver
And it's generally accepted that it's referring to rhinos.
And every one of those is a mistranslation. They were oxen, not unicorns.
Look. I honestly don't care if you're religious. I don't think any lesser of you or think myself better. All it changes in my mind is that you like to believe things based on a lower quality of evidence than I require to believe things. The argument "well a huge portion of people DO believe" means nothing. Show some concrete, empirical evidence and I would gladly switch to X,Y or Z religion.
It's the same reason I don't believe in ghosts. Or the tooth fairy. It doesn't make me a 'better' person, it just means that I require more concrete evidence to believe in something other than a book thousands of years old written by desert dwelling shepherds.
There's a reason we don't believe in a rain God, or a fertility God, or Thor or Zues anymore. The societies that used them used them to explain things that were beyond their understanding. They'd hit a wall in their knowledge of something and just say "well I guess God must have done it". I don't think that's a good way of thinking. You want to? Sure go ahead. As long as you aren't blowing people up or discriminating against people based on your religious beliefs it makes no difference to me.
I wasn't actually arguing with you or anything. Sorry if that sounded otherwise. I was just clarifying.
Personally, I hate religion. I'm a spiritual person; I believe in a higher power. I just think organized religion is the worst thing to happen to mankind.
Also, I do actually believe in the other "lesser gods" such as Thor, Zeus, Demeter, etc. Belief gives things power to an extent.
Nah, I just like to clarify that yea I'm Atheist, but that doesn't mean I think all religious people are idiots. I mean some people might have lower qualifications of evidence to convict someone of a crime than I do. It doesn't make me think they're ignorant. It's just a difference of opinion.
Like I said as long as you aren't forcing me to behave according to your beliefs or using your beliefs to justify some terrible actions I really don't care if you're religious.
Yea it's pretty hard to talk over the internet since there is no inflection. If you read something the wrong way it could seem anyone is talking down to you or arguing. I was never really arguing with anyone, just posting my thoughts because religion is actually an interesting topic for me, even if I don't believe them to be true.
You. I like you. You are a cool person.
Back at you. I'd be stoked if you or anyone else ever found some solid evidence supporting X, Y or Z God because then we'd have something to work with, and definite answers. Atheism is more of a non-position, so I don't really see it as a knowledgeable stance. My position is more of a "Well nothing we've done got so far convinces me so I'm just going to opt out of choosing" stance.
Oh man, I would cream myself if someone found scientific evidence of a god. Any god.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... excessively strong immune systems could be a bit of a problem, huh? I heard that stronger cells that go on to become cancer stay just as strong. I wonder if the same goes for the immune system? Maybe I shouldn't wonder that.
- you make a fair point. i rescind my earlier statement.
Don't rescind it fully, you have some valid points but so do I. We both make good points, at first it is fun for seasoned players. But eventually it gets dull, but for beginners it is good.
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