you caught me

yes I did. Any others like it?

fully agreed. It's a real catch 22

the problem is, the US constitution says that having guns IS a right, and making a revision to the constitution would be extremely controversial

God forbid anyone do anything controversial right? Haha, nah, I do get what you're saying man.

Now, I'm not saying we should change the constitution, but I am saying maybe look at it again. I mean, things have changed quite a bit. We're definitely not in completely peaceful times, people die every day to violence, and I believe everyone does have the right to defend themselves in any way possible, including owning a gun. All I'm saying is that there's some people out there that really shouldn't own a gun.

As for how to fix the situation? No idea. I got nothing. You start taking people's guns away, there's gonna be problems. Start testing people, they're gonna cry, "But muh freedoms" because human beings are whiny little bitches.

The sad truth is that there is no real way to fix it because then where would the freedom be? All we can do is hope that humanity keeps getting better and one day we can still eat our cake and have it too.

fully agreed. It's a real catch 22

I wouldn't say it needs to be gained as much as it needs to be easily lost.

The driving permit concept is really a bad comparison though. Guns, designed to kill people, licensing requirements vary, kill a third or less as many people as a device that is designed to provide transportation and requires testing, licensing, and insurance, has tens of thousands of rules and regulations, departments specifically devoted to policing it (highway patrol, state departments of motor vehicles, etc.), and has been continually made more safe with each passing year. About 1 in 3 people out of the total population of the U.S. drive. About 1 in 3 people in the U.S. own a gun. Yet the thing designed to kill does so considerably less frequently. Not saying we should stop licensing people to drive or ditch anything else listed. Just pointing out the slight issue in the comparison.

Yeah man. It was rough. Things are definitely better now though. It's been great talking to you man.