thats pricespy site seems to be pretty good, i am going with that.

will be back in 15 minutes with a build.

cheers.

almost done, taking longer than expected.

had a little trouble with the sound card.

that's alright. It doesn't need to be too great, though I'm hoping for 7.1

Allright, finished.
i didnt really take into account taxes, but if you need to cut costs you can get a 128GB samsung 840 pro, a gigabyte 990fx ud5, or by dropping the soundcard and just use the motherboards onboard 7.1 audio, that would cut costs the most.

I really dont recomend Intel right now because they are killing off the 1155 socket, and AM3+ will stay fresh until late 2014.

Also dont go with water cooling unless it is a custom loop, which can get very expensive.

I left the cd drive, keyboard, and monitor to your discretion, since they don't matter too much.

also, is the sound card really necessary?

no. you can use the motherboards on-board 7.1 sound, but the sound card will offer higher quality audio. but you probably aren't using big speakers you could hear the difference from, so it doesn't matter.

So far, the majority of people have said that Intel is better, so I had always been leaning towards them.

Which cpu is better depends on what you are doing.

Assuming mostly gaming, yes, intel is the better cpu, at this short moment.

But with future consoles slated to use AMD 8-cores, and with steamroller on the horizon, AMD is the option for the future.

Intel's Haswell chips don't really offer much of a performance increase, where steamroller will bring each AMD core to the performance of an Intel core. the two are already pretty close as it is, so again, AMD, for the future.

what can't you understand?

just give me a moment, the parts i am thinking of are not on that site, I would consider abandoning that site.

edit - link again
nz.pcpartpicker.com/p/VAbh

another site is
www.playtech.co.nz/
also, an easy way is
www.pricespy.co.nz/

thats pricespy site seems to be pretty good, i am going with that.

will be back in 15 minutes with a build.

cheers.

almost done, taking longer than expected.

had a little trouble with the sound card.

that's alright. It doesn't need to be too great, though I'm hoping for 7.1

Allright, finished.
i didnt really take into account taxes, but if you need to cut costs you can get a 128GB samsung 840 pro, a gigabyte 990fx ud5, or by dropping the soundcard and just use the motherboards onboard 7.1 audio, that would cut costs the most.

I really dont recomend Intel right now because they are killing off the 1155 socket, and AM3+ will stay fresh until late 2014.

Also dont go with water cooling unless it is a custom loop, which can get very expensive.

I left the cd drive, keyboard, and monitor to your discretion, since they don't matter too much.

also, is the sound card really necessary?

no. you can use the motherboards on-board 7.1 sound, but the sound card will offer higher quality audio. but you probably aren't using big speakers you could hear the difference from, so it doesn't matter.

So far, the majority of people have said that Intel is better, so I had always been leaning towards them.

Which cpu is better depends on what you are doing.

Assuming mostly gaming, yes, intel is the better cpu, at this short moment.

But with future consoles slated to use AMD 8-cores, and with steamroller on the horizon, AMD is the option for the future.

Intel's Haswell chips don't really offer much of a performance increase, where steamroller will bring each AMD core to the performance of an Intel core. the two are already pretty close as it is, so again, AMD, for the future.

pcpartpicker.com/

use this, then post a link.

also budget?

Difficult to say, as I'm in NZ. Currently it's at about $3200NZD, though I can get that price down, as it's all from one store atm.

store: www.computerlounge.co.nz/

what can't you understand?

just give me a moment, the parts i am thinking of are not on that site, I would consider abandoning that site.

edit - link again
nz.pcpartpicker.com/p/VAbh

another site is
www.playtech.co.nz/
also, an easy way is
www.pricespy.co.nz/

thats pricespy site seems to be pretty good, i am going with that.

will be back in 15 minutes with a build.

cheers.

almost done, taking longer than expected.

had a little trouble with the sound card.

that's alright. It doesn't need to be too great, though I'm hoping for 7.1

Allright, finished.
i didnt really take into account taxes, but if you need to cut costs you can get a 128GB samsung 840 pro, a gigabyte 990fx ud5, or by dropping the soundcard and just use the motherboards onboard 7.1 audio, that would cut costs the most.

I really dont recomend Intel right now because they are killing off the 1155 socket, and AM3+ will stay fresh until late 2014.

Also dont go with water cooling unless it is a custom loop, which can get very expensive.

I left the cd drive, keyboard, and monitor to your discretion, since they don't matter too much.

also, is the sound card really necessary?

no. you can use the motherboards on-board 7.1 sound, but the sound card will offer higher quality audio. but you probably aren't using big speakers you could hear the difference from, so it doesn't matter.

So far, the majority of people have said that Intel is better, so I had always been leaning towards them.

Which cpu is better depends on what you are doing.

Assuming mostly gaming, yes, intel is the better cpu, at this short moment.

But with future consoles slated to use AMD 8-cores, and with steamroller on the horizon, AMD is the option for the future.

Intel's Haswell chips don't really offer much of a performance increase, where steamroller will bring each AMD core to the performance of an Intel core. the two are already pretty close as it is, so again, AMD, for the future.

I agree.

Oh, I thought it was supposed to take pictures of your kills or something.

it'd be cool either way

I agree.

Oh, it's real alright...

I'm not gay, but I don't have an issue. Honestly, it's none of our business as to their preference.

Oh they do have them... and they are big.

x being number of digits.