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.9 repeating is not a real number, because the 9's are infinite.
1 is a real number. they're part of two different ideals of reality and one will never be the other.
I've seen and heard these arguments before; it's just nonsense.
you cannot subtract .9 repeating from any algebraic equation the same way you can't subtract infinity.
a theoretical concept will never = 1
although reading is not your strong suit
www.debate.org/debates/0.99RepeatingdoesNotequal1.00/1/
here you go
if you're still not convinced then i dont really care. have fun with your bullshit parlor trick that you call a "proof"
"Pro (mobikenobi) needs to prove that 0.99 repeating is not equal to one.
Con (Baggins) needs to point our mistakes in Pro's argument and hence establish that 0.99 repeating can be treated as 1 for all practical purpose."
the counter argument did the same thing you did.
you ignore the fact that 1 is a symbol for a tangible amount and .9r is not. end of story
"Infinity is a concept which exists in mathematics. Since this is a mathematical debate, we will use this concept."
you fucking schmucks...
real numbers will be used in architecture and engineering
theoretical numbers are for just that... theories
i'll live my life in the real world, thank you.
www.askamathematician.com/2011/05/qis09999repeatingreallyequalto1/
www.purplemath.com/modules/howcan1.htm
www.mathsisfun.com/9recurring.html
polymathematics.typepad.com/polymath/2006/06/no_im_sorry_it_.html
mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.0.9999.html
pokefag 2015
1) Things are theories because the scientific community understands that things need to be falsifiable to be reliable. When something is falsifiable, it's understood that a single piece of evidence can come in and completely disprove the idea.
2) Gravity isn't even an example of a theory, it's a law. Gravity is proven to be a thing that exist, and never a thing that will not exist. What you're thinking of are all of the theories centered around how gravity works. Those are theories.
3) Even if you were to make your point "Well all of those theories on how gravity works are just theories" it'd be the exact same ridiculousness I went over before. You don't just make the argument "It's just a theory" and expect it to be respected by anyone who you want to listen to you.
my argument is you cant compare apples to oranges
would you agree?
At some point, the numbers of .999999999999 is going to end. You essentially took off a .0000000000001 to make the 1 into .999999999999
In real life, that's at the atomic level of size. So you took an atom away essentially. Nothing is infinite besides concepts like time and distance.
you can always get smaller, even between atoms there is space, which is void, but how close does the void get to the atom before what you see changes from void to atom?
look, you can argue all you want, but it works, a lot of technology is based on that, you can't get a first degree in programing without studying calculus, which is studying that very point of where its almost there, but not quite, but you get so close that it doesn't really matter anymore.
you may not be able to do it physically, but that added 9 can make a difference whether a hitech rocket hits its target or not.
A tragic hero, that Number 1 is.
9.99999.... = 10x
9 = 9x
9 = x
0.99999.... = 1
Your argument is invalid.
It doesn't work like that.
10x * (9/10) = 9x < (how i assume your process was)
9.99999... * (9/10) = 891/100 = 8.91 =/= 9
YOUR argument is invalid
x = 0.99999.....
10x = 9.99999.....
10x  x = 9.99999....  0.99999.....
9x = 9
x = 1
0.99999..... = 1
By definition of these values being represented as 'x/9', it is impossible to represent .99999.... by this method by the very virtue of it.
Just because the method cannot represent .999999.... as a 'x/9' fraction, doesn't mean that .99999.... is not its own unique, irrational number. You're simply exploiting this flaw in the method to state a fallacy
Any number that is infinite in length is irrational
All I was saying earlier was that he was using "x/9" fractions to represent an infinitely repeating number. For example, 1/9 = .11111...(repeating), 4/9 = .444444...(repeating), and obviously, there is no way to obtain .99999...(repeating) by using that kind of fraction.
However, after a quick check, it is indeed true that repeating decimals are not considered to be irrational, so I'll withdraw my classification of .9999...(repeating) as irrational
x = 0.99999999999(9)
100 * x = 99.9999999999999(9)
100*x  x = 99.(9)  0.(9)
99x = 99
x = 1
you cant do that dumbass
but wouldn't it just make it a tiny bit less than one and thus not equal to one? even if the 0.999 etc does repeat itself?
Step 1: 10.9 = 0.1 = 1/10^1
Step 2: 10.99 = 0.01 = 1/10^2
Step 3: 10.999 = 0.001 = 1/10^3
...
So whatever "a tiny bit less than one" is, I can find a finite number n with "a tiny bit less than one" < 1 1/10^n. But that's a contradiction because 0.999... has and infinite amount of 9s! Therefore it can't be smaller than one.
I know it's hard to grasp, infinity gives a lot of headache. And worse, there are infinities that are bigger than other infinities. Georg Cantor went mad over that and died in a sanatorium.
And wow do I not regret that at all...
We had a shit teacher, was really the main reason why I didn't chose to continue with math
I do regret it a tiny bit, only because I like to improve myself
I myself am teaching on a universitary level (discrete mathematics and linear algebra) so I see how people are able to improve if they get the right help at the right time. Not implying i'm a good teacher.
1/3 is 0.3333333....
multiply that by two it's is 0.666666....
if you add those two together, you get 0.99999...
But you just added 1/3 and 2/3 so your result must be 3/3
and we know that x/x in all cases is equal to 1. so therefore 0.9999.....=1
It is a really difficult concept to get around for some people. But there are different ways to right the number 1. 3/3 is one way, 100% can be another (when discussing probabilities) and another way is 0.9999....
This proof alone shows that any rational number has a infinitely repeating 9's alternative. like 4.213336 and 4.2133359999999..... are the same number in terms of value but obviously not in written form. they REPRESENT the same number, just because they are written differently does not mean they are of different values.
The wikipedia article has more information. But this is a well established mathematical proof.
It's all based on the idea of infinity... but then we get into the philosophical aspects of maths, "how does infinity exist/work" etc...
But some rudimentary proofs do rely on it to a very small degree, so it does have some applications.
the concepts of infinity are very well fleshed out in hilberts paradox. But zero and infinity are both very strange numbers to work with, they really do fuck with the natural order but they are how maths works, if they didnt work like that, then maths itself would have a hard time being consistent where it mattered.
And there are a few different kinds of infinity. Countable and uncountable infinites are the most common, representing the first and second order of infinites respectively. but there are more..... infinitely more if you truly want to get into semantics.
I am a maths lover, numbers and shit man, i love it.
1/9 = .111...
9 * 1/9 = 9 * .111...
1 = .999...
Done.
infinity is a property and not a number so you can't do much with it
pi is a number that is infinite and you can do all sorts of stuff with it
If you have the way on finding pi on the number line, can you at least provide a link, so I'll know for the future?
All transcendental numbers are irrational, but not all irrational numbers are transcendental.
You can mark the point belonging to square root of 2 on the number line, but you can't apply the same to pi, tau, e, etc.
To construct a line with the length of pi (or e, while we're at it), you need an infinite number of steps, you find 3, then you move to 3.1, then to 3.14, then to 3.141, then to 3.1415, etc. And since pi has infinite decimals, you can never find its exact position. You can get really close, but you can't find exact position, which is a propery of transcendental numbers.
And pi IS on real line, yes you can't construct it, but it IS there.
does infinite mean it's the same number repeating?
I just wanted to say that infinte number implies infinite value (like aleph null, look it up)
so what would you call a number that goes on forever?
And, as was very rightly stated below me, some examples would be root 2, pi, 2/3, that kind of stuff
or irrational number ( square root of two, pi, eulers number etc.)
yep
But to make sense of the series as a whole no.
The producers were basically forced to imply it if they didn't want to face the hordes of shipping mongrels.
Whether fan pressure went into it or not, the script was definitely written before that, and the ending would be pretty odd otherwise. "Yeah, let's just have the avatar and the only girl she trusted for half of the final chapter hold each others' hands and stare into each others' eyes for the final scene. But they're not gay or anything, no, never."
If it weren't for the shippers most of us would be talking about how progressive it is that a mainstream nickelodeon show ended with a lesbian couple.
I really hope they weren't just listening to the fans on that one.
**rollfourexplain rolls 7,926**
The way the legitimacy was provided makes me believe it would never have been if not for all the shipping. Though I have not seen all of Korra, and can't imagine myself doing that any time soon, I will not believe that she is actually a lesbian. It's all of this tumblr shipping hype and sexualization that has ended up influencing the original work (primarily because one of the lead writers uses tumblr).
I mean I don't really care anyways but I think this is just maxlevel shipping. I can't get over how illegitimate this feels. I don't like the whole show so I guess I'll just try to side step the topic for a little while anyways. It's not my beef.
I think good animators should just do what they like.
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