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#31 - Colors? Height? Location? Size? Sorry if I seem annoying. 01/29/2015 on Hawkward +1
#20 - That's interesting that a BoP would act like that. Do you know…  [+] (2 new replies) 01/29/2015 on Hawkward +8
#30 - bourbonbandit (01/29/2015) [-]
i think it was a hawk
User avatar #31 - pokefag (01/29/2015) [-]
Colors? Height? Location? Size? Sorry if I seem annoying.
#92 - plaruti apparently. 01/18/2015 on To Infinity 0
#88 - While I was out I got you this. Its .9 repeating of a reactio… 01/18/2015 on To Infinity 0
#84 - Really? Really. Okay. Have a nice day mate.  [+] (5 new replies) 01/18/2015 on To Infinity 0
User avatar #87 - lolollo (01/18/2015) [-]
You know what else is a theory? 99% of everything else in Science. And I say 99% because some aspects of Physics are called "laws", not to do some fancy bullshit to make it 100%. People say "it's just a theory" when they completely misunderstand what a theory is and want to downplay it by making "theory" seem like a dysphemism.

1) Things are theories because the scientific community understands that things need to be falsifiable to be reliable. When something is falsifiable, it's understood that a single piece of evidence can come in and completely disprove the idea.
2) Gravity isn't even an example of a theory, it's a law. Gravity is proven to be a thing that exist, and never a thing that will not exist. What you're thinking of are all of the theories centered around how gravity works. Those are theories.
3) Even if you were to make your point "Well all of those theories on how gravity works are just theories" it'd be the exact same ridiculousness I went over before. You don't just make the argument "It's just a theory" and expect it to be respected by anyone who you want to listen to you.
User avatar #93 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
the number 1 isn't a theory, infinity is

my argument is you cant compare apples to oranges

would you agree?
User avatar #94 - lolollo (01/18/2015) [-]
My main beef with the guy was his whole "it's just a theory" bullshit. God that shit grates at me.
User avatar #85 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
Jump off a building and tell me about gravity being a theory. And before you get back, grab me a tangible .9r of anything.
#88 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
ncse.com/rncse/27/5-6/gravity-its-only-theory. While I was out I got you this. Its .9 repeating of a reaction .gif. Or just 1, they are the same in the end.
#82 - Gravity is also a theory, it seems pretty applicable to the re…  [+] (7 new replies) 01/18/2015 on To Infinity 0
User avatar #83 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
"gravity is a theory"
-pokefag 2015
User avatar #84 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
Really? Really. Okay. Have a nice day mate.
User avatar #87 - lolollo (01/18/2015) [-]
You know what else is a theory? 99% of everything else in Science. And I say 99% because some aspects of Physics are called "laws", not to do some fancy bullshit to make it 100%. People say "it's just a theory" when they completely misunderstand what a theory is and want to downplay it by making "theory" seem like a dysphemism.

1) Things are theories because the scientific community understands that things need to be falsifiable to be reliable. When something is falsifiable, it's understood that a single piece of evidence can come in and completely disprove the idea.
2) Gravity isn't even an example of a theory, it's a law. Gravity is proven to be a thing that exist, and never a thing that will not exist. What you're thinking of are all of the theories centered around how gravity works. Those are theories.
3) Even if you were to make your point "Well all of those theories on how gravity works are just theories" it'd be the exact same ridiculousness I went over before. You don't just make the argument "It's just a theory" and expect it to be respected by anyone who you want to listen to you.
User avatar #93 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
the number 1 isn't a theory, infinity is

my argument is you cant compare apples to oranges

would you agree?
User avatar #94 - lolollo (01/18/2015) [-]
My main beef with the guy was his whole "it's just a theory" bullshit. God that shit grates at me.
User avatar #85 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
Jump off a building and tell me about gravity being a theory. And before you get back, grab me a tangible .9r of anything.
#88 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
ncse.com/rncse/27/5-6/gravity-its-only-theory. While I was out I got you this. Its .9 repeating of a reaction .gif. Or just 1, they are the same in the end.
#79 - You linked me to something that proves my point. Are you the o…  [+] (9 new replies) 01/18/2015 on To Infinity 0
User avatar #80 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
dear fucking lord.
the counter argument did the same thing you did.
you ignore the fact that 1 is a symbol for a tangible amount and .9r is not. end of story
"Infinity is a concept which exists in mathematics. Since this is a mathematical debate, we will use this concept."
you fucking schmucks...
real numbers will be used in architecture and engineering
theoretical numbers are for just that... theories

i'll live my life in the real world, thank you.
User avatar #82 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
Gravity is also a theory, it seems pretty applicable to the real world. I don't know what else to say. You are arguing against a fact with your opinion. I think I'll make some link too.

www.askamathematician.com/2011/05/q-is-0-9999-repeating-really-equal-to-1/
www.purplemath.com/modules/howcan1.htm
www.mathsisfun.com/9recurring.html
polymathematics.typepad.com/polymath/2006/06/no_im_sorry_it_.html
mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.0.9999.html
User avatar #83 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
"gravity is a theory"
-pokefag 2015
User avatar #84 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
Really? Really. Okay. Have a nice day mate.
User avatar #87 - lolollo (01/18/2015) [-]
You know what else is a theory? 99% of everything else in Science. And I say 99% because some aspects of Physics are called "laws", not to do some fancy bullshit to make it 100%. People say "it's just a theory" when they completely misunderstand what a theory is and want to downplay it by making "theory" seem like a dysphemism.

1) Things are theories because the scientific community understands that things need to be falsifiable to be reliable. When something is falsifiable, it's understood that a single piece of evidence can come in and completely disprove the idea.
2) Gravity isn't even an example of a theory, it's a law. Gravity is proven to be a thing that exist, and never a thing that will not exist. What you're thinking of are all of the theories centered around how gravity works. Those are theories.
3) Even if you were to make your point "Well all of those theories on how gravity works are just theories" it'd be the exact same ridiculousness I went over before. You don't just make the argument "It's just a theory" and expect it to be respected by anyone who you want to listen to you.
User avatar #93 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
the number 1 isn't a theory, infinity is

my argument is you cant compare apples to oranges

would you agree?
User avatar #94 - lolollo (01/18/2015) [-]
My main beef with the guy was his whole "it's just a theory" bullshit. God that shit grates at me.
User avatar #85 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
Jump off a building and tell me about gravity being a theory. And before you get back, grab me a tangible .9r of anything.
#88 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
ncse.com/rncse/27/5-6/gravity-its-only-theory. While I was out I got you this. Its .9 repeating of a reaction .gif. Or just 1, they are the same in the end.
#74 - You can subtract infinity, it would just be infinity. If you s…  [+] (11 new replies) 01/18/2015 on To Infinity 0
User avatar #77 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
i feel like you only read once sentence of my comment...
although reading is not your strong suit
www.debate.org/debates/0.99-Repeating-does-Not-equal-1.00/1/
here you go
if you're still not convinced then i dont really care. have fun with your bullshit parlor trick that you call a "proof"
User avatar #79 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
You linked me to something that proves my point. Are you the one who can't read? Baggins.

"Pro (mobikenobi) needs to prove that 0.99 repeating is not equal to one.

Con (Baggins) needs to point our mistakes in Pro's argument and hence establish that 0.99 repeating can be treated as 1 for all practical purpose."
User avatar #80 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
dear fucking lord.
the counter argument did the same thing you did.
you ignore the fact that 1 is a symbol for a tangible amount and .9r is not. end of story
"Infinity is a concept which exists in mathematics. Since this is a mathematical debate, we will use this concept."
you fucking schmucks...
real numbers will be used in architecture and engineering
theoretical numbers are for just that... theories

i'll live my life in the real world, thank you.
User avatar #82 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
Gravity is also a theory, it seems pretty applicable to the real world. I don't know what else to say. You are arguing against a fact with your opinion. I think I'll make some link too.

www.askamathematician.com/2011/05/q-is-0-9999-repeating-really-equal-to-1/
www.purplemath.com/modules/howcan1.htm
www.mathsisfun.com/9recurring.html
polymathematics.typepad.com/polymath/2006/06/no_im_sorry_it_.html
mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.0.9999.html
User avatar #83 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
"gravity is a theory"
-pokefag 2015
User avatar #84 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
Really? Really. Okay. Have a nice day mate.
User avatar #87 - lolollo (01/18/2015) [-]
You know what else is a theory? 99% of everything else in Science. And I say 99% because some aspects of Physics are called "laws", not to do some fancy bullshit to make it 100%. People say "it's just a theory" when they completely misunderstand what a theory is and want to downplay it by making "theory" seem like a dysphemism.

1) Things are theories because the scientific community understands that things need to be falsifiable to be reliable. When something is falsifiable, it's understood that a single piece of evidence can come in and completely disprove the idea.
2) Gravity isn't even an example of a theory, it's a law. Gravity is proven to be a thing that exist, and never a thing that will not exist. What you're thinking of are all of the theories centered around how gravity works. Those are theories.
3) Even if you were to make your point "Well all of those theories on how gravity works are just theories" it'd be the exact same ridiculousness I went over before. You don't just make the argument "It's just a theory" and expect it to be respected by anyone who you want to listen to you.
User avatar #93 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
the number 1 isn't a theory, infinity is

my argument is you cant compare apples to oranges

would you agree?
User avatar #94 - lolollo (01/18/2015) [-]
My main beef with the guy was his whole "it's just a theory" bullshit. God that shit grates at me.
User avatar #85 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
Jump off a building and tell me about gravity being a theory. And before you get back, grab me a tangible .9r of anything.
#88 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
ncse.com/rncse/27/5-6/gravity-its-only-theory. While I was out I got you this. Its .9 repeating of a reaction .gif. Or just 1, they are the same in the end.
#63 - The number will be, but the value will be equal to one. Go wat…  [+] (13 new replies) 01/18/2015 on To Infinity 0
User avatar #69 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
well that was a waste of time... i couldn't even finish the video because she spends to much time comparing two unlike things and saying they're the same.
.9 repeating is not a real number, because the 9's are infinite.
1 is a real number. they're part of two different ideals of reality and one will never be the other.
I've seen and heard these arguments before; it's just nonsense.
you cannot subtract .9 repeating from any algebraic equation the same way you can't subtract infinity.
a theoretical concept will never = 1
User avatar #74 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
You can subtract infinity, it would just be infinity. If you subtract an unlimited amount of numbers, your answer is going to be unlimited. .9 repeating is a real number. The connection is made when logical proofs, like .999...=X, are used.
User avatar #77 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
i feel like you only read once sentence of my comment...
although reading is not your strong suit
www.debate.org/debates/0.99-Repeating-does-Not-equal-1.00/1/
here you go
if you're still not convinced then i dont really care. have fun with your bullshit parlor trick that you call a "proof"
User avatar #79 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
You linked me to something that proves my point. Are you the one who can't read? Baggins.

"Pro (mobikenobi) needs to prove that 0.99 repeating is not equal to one.

Con (Baggins) needs to point our mistakes in Pro's argument and hence establish that 0.99 repeating can be treated as 1 for all practical purpose."
User avatar #80 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
dear fucking lord.
the counter argument did the same thing you did.
you ignore the fact that 1 is a symbol for a tangible amount and .9r is not. end of story
"Infinity is a concept which exists in mathematics. Since this is a mathematical debate, we will use this concept."
you fucking schmucks...
real numbers will be used in architecture and engineering
theoretical numbers are for just that... theories

i'll live my life in the real world, thank you.
User avatar #82 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
Gravity is also a theory, it seems pretty applicable to the real world. I don't know what else to say. You are arguing against a fact with your opinion. I think I'll make some link too.

www.askamathematician.com/2011/05/q-is-0-9999-repeating-really-equal-to-1/
www.purplemath.com/modules/howcan1.htm
www.mathsisfun.com/9recurring.html
polymathematics.typepad.com/polymath/2006/06/no_im_sorry_it_.html
mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.0.9999.html
User avatar #83 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
"gravity is a theory"
-pokefag 2015
User avatar #84 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
Really? Really. Okay. Have a nice day mate.
User avatar #87 - lolollo (01/18/2015) [-]
You know what else is a theory? 99% of everything else in Science. And I say 99% because some aspects of Physics are called "laws", not to do some fancy bullshit to make it 100%. People say "it's just a theory" when they completely misunderstand what a theory is and want to downplay it by making "theory" seem like a dysphemism.

1) Things are theories because the scientific community understands that things need to be falsifiable to be reliable. When something is falsifiable, it's understood that a single piece of evidence can come in and completely disprove the idea.
2) Gravity isn't even an example of a theory, it's a law. Gravity is proven to be a thing that exist, and never a thing that will not exist. What you're thinking of are all of the theories centered around how gravity works. Those are theories.
3) Even if you were to make your point "Well all of those theories on how gravity works are just theories" it'd be the exact same ridiculousness I went over before. You don't just make the argument "It's just a theory" and expect it to be respected by anyone who you want to listen to you.
User avatar #93 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
the number 1 isn't a theory, infinity is

my argument is you cant compare apples to oranges

would you agree?
User avatar #94 - lolollo (01/18/2015) [-]
My main beef with the guy was his whole "it's just a theory" bullshit. God that shit grates at me.
User avatar #85 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
Jump off a building and tell me about gravity being a theory. And before you get back, grab me a tangible .9r of anything.
#88 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
ncse.com/rncse/27/5-6/gravity-its-only-theory. While I was out I got you this. Its .9 repeating of a reaction .gif. Or just 1, they are the same in the end.
#61 - Robarth posted it. Made my search easy. 01/18/2015 on To Infinity 0
#60 - Infinity is a hypothetical number. No matter how much you add,… 01/18/2015 on To Infinity 0
#2 - For those that dont get it, .9 repeating has the same VALUE as…  [+] (79 new replies) 01/18/2015 on To Infinity +264
#90 - Ken M (01/18/2015) [-]
What kind of fucking retard doesn't get this?
User avatar #92 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
plaruti apparently.
User avatar #62 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
pretty sure no matter how many infinite 9's there are, it'll always be a little less than one
User avatar #63 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
The number will be, but the value will be equal to one. Go watch this. www.youtube.com/watch?v=TINfzxSnnIE
User avatar #69 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
well that was a waste of time... i couldn't even finish the video because she spends to much time comparing two unlike things and saying they're the same.
.9 repeating is not a real number, because the 9's are infinite.
1 is a real number. they're part of two different ideals of reality and one will never be the other.
I've seen and heard these arguments before; it's just nonsense.
you cannot subtract .9 repeating from any algebraic equation the same way you can't subtract infinity.
a theoretical concept will never = 1
User avatar #74 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
You can subtract infinity, it would just be infinity. If you subtract an unlimited amount of numbers, your answer is going to be unlimited. .9 repeating is a real number. The connection is made when logical proofs, like .999...=X, are used.
User avatar #77 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
i feel like you only read once sentence of my comment...
although reading is not your strong suit
www.debate.org/debates/0.99-Repeating-does-Not-equal-1.00/1/
here you go
if you're still not convinced then i dont really care. have fun with your bullshit parlor trick that you call a "proof"
User avatar #79 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
You linked me to something that proves my point. Are you the one who can't read? Baggins.

"Pro (mobikenobi) needs to prove that 0.99 repeating is not equal to one.

Con (Baggins) needs to point our mistakes in Pro's argument and hence establish that 0.99 repeating can be treated as 1 for all practical purpose."
User avatar #80 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
dear fucking lord.
the counter argument did the same thing you did.
you ignore the fact that 1 is a symbol for a tangible amount and .9r is not. end of story
"Infinity is a concept which exists in mathematics. Since this is a mathematical debate, we will use this concept."
you fucking schmucks...
real numbers will be used in architecture and engineering
theoretical numbers are for just that... theories

i'll live my life in the real world, thank you.
User avatar #82 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
Gravity is also a theory, it seems pretty applicable to the real world. I don't know what else to say. You are arguing against a fact with your opinion. I think I'll make some link too.

www.askamathematician.com/2011/05/q-is-0-9999-repeating-really-equal-to-1/
www.purplemath.com/modules/howcan1.htm
www.mathsisfun.com/9recurring.html
polymathematics.typepad.com/polymath/2006/06/no_im_sorry_it_.html
mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.0.9999.html
User avatar #83 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
"gravity is a theory"
-pokefag 2015
User avatar #84 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
Really? Really. Okay. Have a nice day mate.
User avatar #87 - lolollo (01/18/2015) [-]
You know what else is a theory? 99% of everything else in Science. And I say 99% because some aspects of Physics are called "laws", not to do some fancy bullshit to make it 100%. People say "it's just a theory" when they completely misunderstand what a theory is and want to downplay it by making "theory" seem like a dysphemism.

1) Things are theories because the scientific community understands that things need to be falsifiable to be reliable. When something is falsifiable, it's understood that a single piece of evidence can come in and completely disprove the idea.
2) Gravity isn't even an example of a theory, it's a law. Gravity is proven to be a thing that exist, and never a thing that will not exist. What you're thinking of are all of the theories centered around how gravity works. Those are theories.
3) Even if you were to make your point "Well all of those theories on how gravity works are just theories" it'd be the exact same ridiculousness I went over before. You don't just make the argument "It's just a theory" and expect it to be respected by anyone who you want to listen to you.
User avatar #93 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
the number 1 isn't a theory, infinity is

my argument is you cant compare apples to oranges

would you agree?
User avatar #94 - lolollo (01/18/2015) [-]
My main beef with the guy was his whole "it's just a theory" bullshit. God that shit grates at me.
User avatar #85 - plaruti (01/18/2015) [-]
Jump off a building and tell me about gravity being a theory. And before you get back, grab me a tangible .9r of anything.
#88 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
ncse.com/rncse/27/5-6/gravity-its-only-theory. While I was out I got you this. Its .9 repeating of a reaction .gif. Or just 1, they are the same in the end.
User avatar #58 - tsoper (01/18/2015) [-]
I dont get how numbers can be infinite.

At some point, the numbers of .999999999999 is going to end. You essentially took off a .0000000000001 to make the 1 into .999999999999

In real life, that's at the atomic level of size. So you took an atom away essentially. Nothing is infinite besides concepts like time and distance.
User avatar #66 - mrmask (01/18/2015) [-]
you are practically right and technically wrong, which is the worst kind of wrong.
you can always get smaller, even between atoms there is space, which is void, but how close does the void get to the atom before what you see changes from void to atom?
User avatar #67 - tsoper (01/18/2015) [-]
again, distance is a concept. You can infinitely get smaller distances, but physically there wont be anything there, or just part of the atom.
User avatar #68 - mrmask (01/18/2015) [-]
but again, assuming the atom is at point 1 on the x axis, at what point does it stop being 1?
look, you can argue all you want, but it works, a lot of technology is based on that, you can't get a first degree in programing without studying calculus, which is studying that very point of where its almost there, but not quite, but you get so close that it doesn't really matter anymore.
User avatar #71 - tsoper (01/18/2015) [-]
So what are you saying? Things can go infinitely small without ever hitting a end to where it doesnt exist anymore?
User avatar #73 - mrmask (01/18/2015) [-]
yep, you can always add another 9 to a long line of 0.99999999999999999999999999,
you may not be able to do it physically, but that added 9 can make a difference whether a hi-tech rocket hits its target or not.
User avatar #61 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TINfzxSnnIE. Robarth posted it. Made my search easy.
User avatar #60 - pokefag (01/18/2015) [-]
Infinity is a hypothetical number. No matter how much you add, you can always times by two or add one. There is a video that this girl made and she explains it well. Ill look for it.
User avatar #50 - mrbuu (01/18/2015) [-]
just like 3/3 1/3 = .33333 2/3 = .6666666 wouldn't it also be true that 3/3 (ading just 1/3 more .33333) would be .99999999 = 1
#59 - Ken M (01/18/2015) [-]
2 + 2 = 4
#21 - JustintheWaysian (01/18/2015) [-]
He made Number 1 to now be infinitely close to the value of 1, but never reaching it.

A tragic hero, that Number 1 is.
User avatar #34 - emiyashirou (01/18/2015) [-]
0.99999.... = x (Don't know the symbol, but repeating 9's infinitely)
9.99999.... = 10x
9 = 9x
9 = x
0.99999.... = 1

Your argument is invalid.
#51 - JustintheWaysian (01/18/2015) [-]
You went from "9.99999... = 10x" to "9 = 9x"

It doesn't work like that.

10x * (9/10) = 9x <--- (how i assume your process was)
9.99999... * (9/10) = 891/100 = 8.91 =/= 9

YOUR argument is invalid
User avatar #52 - emiyashirou (01/18/2015) [-]
10x - 1x = 9x. and 9.9999.... - 0.9999.... = 9.
#53 - JustintheWaysian (01/18/2015) [-]
I'm kinda confused as to what your point is. You're supporting my point that .99999...=/=1
User avatar #54 - emiyashirou (01/18/2015) [-]
How?

x = 0.99999.....
10x = 9.99999.....
10x - x = 9.99999.... - 0.99999.....
9x = 9
x = 1
0.99999..... = 1
#56 - JustintheWaysian (01/18/2015) [-]
That mathematical process that you have demonstrated proves how to achieve an infinitely repeating decimal number by using '9' as a denominator in a fraction.

By definition of these values being represented as 'x/9', it is impossible to represent .99999.... by this method by the very virtue of it.

Just because the method cannot represent .999999.... as a 'x/9' fraction, doesn't mean that .99999.... is not its own unique, irrational number. You're simply exploiting this flaw in the method to state a fallacy
User avatar #70 - victoronefourtwo (01/18/2015) [-]
I'm not going to try and decipher that extremely inefficient jumble of words, but will just point out that .(9) represents a real number, not an irrational number.
#72 - JustintheWaysian (01/18/2015) [-]
.9999999...(repeating) is irrational.

Any number that is infinite in length is irrational

All I was saying earlier was that he was using "x/9" fractions to represent an infinitely repeating number. For example, 1/9 = .11111...(repeating), 4/9 = .444444...(repeating), and obviously, there is no way to obtain .99999...(repeating) by using that kind of fraction.
User avatar #75 - victoronefourtwo (01/18/2015) [-]
That's not the definition of an irrational number. An irrational number DOES NOT include numbers that can be represented as a repeating decimal.
#78 - JustintheWaysian (01/18/2015) [-]
At no point did I even define what an irrational number is. I just said that numbers that are infinite are irrational.

However, after a quick check, it is indeed true that repeating decimals are not considered to be irrational, so I'll withdraw my classification of .9999...(repeating) as irrational
User avatar #49 - articulate (01/18/2015) [-]
1 = x*
#3 - qun (01/18/2015) [-]
no, you made it sound reasonable enough so a potato like me understood it +1
#5 - Ken M (01/18/2015) [-]
The proof goes like this, by the way:

x = 0.99999999999(9)
100 * x = 99.9999999999999(9)
100*x - x = 99.(9) - 0.(9)
99x = 99
x = 1
#25 - Ken M (01/18/2015) [-]
yeah no you threw a random x in there and changed the numbers up for no reason

you cant do that dumbass
User avatar #31 - mathmanchris (01/18/2015) [-]
Mathematician here, you actually can do that. His proof is perfectly legit.
User avatar #35 - zaywoot (01/18/2015) [-]
That doesn't make any fucking sense to me... granted, Im a language person...

but wouldn't it just make it a tiny bit less than one and thus not equal to one? even if the 0.999 etc does repeat itself?
User avatar #45 - mathmanchris (01/18/2015) [-]
"A tiny bit less than one"? No. Let's say it is "a tiny bit less than one" < 1 But:
Step 1: 1-0.9 = 0.1 = 1/10^1
Step 2: 1-0.99 = 0.01 = 1/10^2
Step 3: 1-0.999 = 0.001 = 1/10^3
...
So whatever "a tiny bit less than one" is, I can find a finite number n with "a tiny bit less than one" < 1- 1/10^n. But that's a contradiction because 0.999... has and infinite amount of 9s! Therefore it can't be smaller than one.
I know it's hard to grasp, infinity gives a lot of headache. And worse, there are infinities that are bigger than other infinities. Georg Cantor went mad over that and died in a sanatorium.
User avatar #86 - zaywoot (01/18/2015) [-]
... This is a day where I can really feel the fact that I haven't had a maths class since 2009

And wow do I not regret that at all...
We had a shit teacher, was really the main reason why I didn't chose to continue with math
I do regret it a tiny bit, only because I like to improve myself
User avatar #91 - mathmanchris (01/18/2015) [-]
I've had shitty maths teachers (one exception) all my life, I feel you. Maths is a lot easier when you have someone who can guide you through the process of understanding.
I myself am teaching on a universitary level (discrete mathematics and linear algebra) so I see how people are able to improve if they get the right help at the right time. Not implying i'm a good teacher.
User avatar #41 - faimbot (01/18/2015) [-]
i meant write....
User avatar #40 - faimbot (01/18/2015) [-]
0.999.... represents the same value as the number 1.

1/3 is 0.3333333....
multiply that by two it's is 0.666666....

if you add those two together, you get 0.99999...
But you just added 1/3 and 2/3 so your result must be 3/3

and we know that x/x in all cases is equal to 1. so therefore 0.9999.....=1

It is a really difficult concept to get around for some people. But there are different ways to right the number 1. 3/3 is one way, 100% can be another (when discussing probabilities) and another way is 0.9999....

This proof alone shows that any rational number has a infinitely repeating 9's alternative. like 4.213336 and 4.2133359999999..... are the same number in terms of value but obviously not in written form. they REPRESENT the same number, just because they are written differently does not mean they are of different values.

The wikipedia article has more information. But this is a well established mathematical proof.
User avatar #43 - zaywoot (01/18/2015) [-]
I've been reading up on it since I wrote that comment... and I get where you're going at, I see the proof... But I still think it's fucking stupid to be honest, I get that the 9's go on infinitely, but the second you need to apply it to a practical situation you will need it to stop at a point, and when that happens it is no longer equal to one, or am I wrong there?
It's all based on the idea of infinity... but then we get into the philosophical aspects of maths, "how does infinity exist/work" etc...
User avatar #48 - faimbot (01/18/2015) [-]
If you stop it at a point then you arent dealing with 0.999.... at all. Practical situations like every day maths have no use for it, counting change or to check the time.

But some rudimentary proofs do rely on it to a very small degree, so it does have some applications.

the concepts of infinity are very well fleshed out in hilberts paradox. But zero and infinity are both very strange numbers to work with, they really do fuck with the natural order but they are how maths works, if they didnt work like that, then maths itself would have a hard time being consistent where it mattered.

And there are a few different kinds of infinity. Countable and uncountable infinites are the most common, representing the first and second order of infinites respectively. but there are more..... infinitely more if you truly want to get into semantics.

I am a maths lover, numbers and shit man, i love it.
#22 - Ken M (01/18/2015) [-]
Even simpler:
1/9 = .111...
9 * 1/9 = 9 * .111...
1 = .999...
Done.
User avatar #9 - Einsty (01/18/2015) [-]
It only works because you approximate in the middle of it.
User avatar #29 - anonymoose (01/18/2015) [-]
There is no approximation.
#11 - koisama (01/18/2015) [-]
I believe that (9) is used to denote that the number is repeating itself infinitely after that point. So there really is no approximation there. There is always an infinite series of 9s after the decimal point, if the number is multiplied by 10, there wont be less 9s after the decimal point. Still, the concept that endless series can be subtracted from each other have to be acknowledged.
#8 - Ken M (01/18/2015) [-]
That proof relies upon the ability to multiply infinite numbers, which you can't really do in mathematics (or so the mathemagians say)
User avatar #28 - anonymoose (01/18/2015) [-]
You can multiply infinitely recurring numbers. If you couldn't we'd have no use for pi at all.
User avatar #10 - MrMustacho (01/18/2015) [-]
i think you're confusing infinity with infinite numbers
infinity is a property and not a number so you can't do much with it
pi is a number that is infinite and you can do all sorts of stuff with it
User avatar #13 - robarth (01/18/2015) [-]
FYI pi isn't infinite, it has finite value, it is a POINT on the number line
#23 - bobpi (01/18/2015) [-]
Pi doesn't have a number on number line, since it is a transcendental number, however, approximations of pi do have points on the number line, you can find a point for 3.14, 3.142, 3.1415, etc., but you can't find a point that resembles pi.
User avatar #26 - robarth (01/18/2015) [-]
Well, pi IS number on the real line, the transcendental property means that you cannot get it from any algebraic equation as oppsed to non-transcendental numbers (i.e. algebraic) like square root of two, which is on of the roots of equation x^2=2 when solved for x
#30 - bobpi (01/18/2015) [-]
If pi were possible to find on the number line, then we wouldn't have problems like squaring the circle.
If you have the way on finding pi on the number line, can you at least provide a link, so I'll know for the future?
#32 - koisama (01/18/2015) [-]
Are you saying that Pi does not belong to the Real Numbers, R? In the mathematical sense of course.
#33 - bobpi (01/18/2015) [-]
Pi does belong to real numbers, I'm not saying it doesn't. However, real numbers can be divided in 2 groups: algebraic - those which can be shown on the number line, and transcendental - those which can't be shown on the number line.
All transcendental numbers are irrational, but not all irrational numbers are transcendental.
You can mark the point belonging to square root of 2 on the number line, but you can't apply the same to pi, tau, e, etc.
#36 - robarth (01/18/2015) [-]
What are you talking about?
#37 - bobpi (01/18/2015) [-]
The square root of 2 is correctly placed, because it's an algebraic number and you can construck a line with the length of square root of 2.
To construct a line with the length of pi (or e, while we're at it), you need an infinite number of steps, you find 3, then you move to 3.1, then to 3.14, then to 3.141, then to 3.1415, etc. And since pi has infinite decimals, you can never find its exact position. You can get really close, but you can't find exact position, which is a propery of transcendental numbers.
User avatar #39 - robarth (01/18/2015) [-]
And real line is just graphical representation of the set of real numbers and pi is part of the reals
User avatar #38 - robarth (01/18/2015) [-]
Well, you have mixed definitions, constructible numbers aren't the same as algebraic numbers. You can solve for cube root of 2 with finite polynomial with rational coefficients (x^3-2=0) but you can't construct it (Doubling the cube)

And pi IS on real line, yes you can't construct it, but it IS there.
#42 - bobpi (01/18/2015) [-]
It is one the line, but you can't find the point which belongs to it.
User avatar #46 - robarth (01/18/2015) [-]
You can find it analytically, but yes, practically you can't.
User avatar #15 - MrMustacho (01/18/2015) [-]
what's the difference bewteen infinite and infinite value?
does infinite mean it's the same number repeating?
User avatar #18 - Kairyuka (01/18/2015) [-]
It has just one value, thus it can be placed on an axis of numbers, the amount of decimals simply determine how precisely we want to place it.
User avatar #16 - robarth (01/18/2015) [-]
My point was that you said that pi is infinite. I know you've meant that pi has numbers that, after the decimal point, go on forever but it still has finite value.

I just wanted to say that infinte number implies infinite value (like aleph null, look it up)
User avatar #17 - MrMustacho (01/18/2015) [-]
ah, i read "finite value" as "infinite value".
so what would you call a number that goes on forever?
User avatar #20 - CaptainPugwash (01/18/2015) [-]
Transfinite.
And, as was very rightly stated below me, some examples would be root 2, pi, 2/3, that kind of stuff
User avatar #19 - robarth (01/18/2015) [-]
either a fraction like .3 repeating ( = 1/3)

or irrational number ( square root of two, pi, eulers number etc.)
User avatar #6 - adunsaveme (01/18/2015) [-]
That doesn't exactly help people who can't into numbers
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#55 - Ken M (01/04/2015) [-]
they force shoehorned in some hints for the fanbase.
But to make sense of the series as a whole no.
User avatar #42 - crazyeyedbioll (01/04/2015) [-]
It was shipped and forced on the creators so badly they decided to fan service the fags with some hand holding. now everyone flips their shit
User avatar #29 - toosexyforyou (01/04/2015) [-]
A good way to know if someone's retarded and that you should stop talking to them is that when they say Korra and Asami are lesbians.
User avatar #81 - hanabro (01/05/2015) [-]
You're right, they're bisexual. How could people be so stupid as to think anything else?
#20 - Gute (01/04/2015) [-]
It had been shipped pretty much from season one. In the final season there were a few very rare moments, which people inferred were "hints" implying it. These moments at most implied a very close relationship/friendship between korra and asami. Nothing more than a platonic relationship was ever implied as the season went on, but the shipping increased. Although in the series finale the relationship is heavily implied and the creators confirmed it. They did say it was never their original plan and it did have a lot to do with pressure from the fanbase and the LGBT commuinity. Nonetheless it has probably contributed positively to our NSFW traffic.
#64 - Ken M (01/04/2015) [-]
Gonna correct you on your wrongness. They indeed said it wasn't the plan for like the first season or two. But then again, they also said they had no plan for anything after the first season or two. They thought of Korrasami before it even became a huge thing in the fandom and made it a thing in the last two seasons and added hints to imply a growing attraction between the two. Learn to research you ignorant fool.
#113 - Gute (01/05/2015) [-]
Shit my bad if ididntread throughly. I was wrong. Apparently
User avatar #16 - CloseEnough (01/04/2015) [-]
By implied, they mean they held hands and looked at each other for a few seconds.
The producers were basically forced to imply it if they didn't want to face the hordes of shipping mongrels.
#123 - Ken M (01/05/2015) [-]
Every show has those people. And they'd be dealing with flak either way--there's hordes of people like you complaining about it as well.

Whether fan pressure went into it or not, the script was definitely written before that, and the ending would be pretty odd otherwise. "Yeah, let's just have the avatar and the only girl she trusted for half of the final chapter hold each others' hands and stare into each others' eyes for the final scene. But they're not gay or anything, no, never."

If it weren't for the shippers most of us would be talking about how progressive it is that a mainstream nickelodeon show ended with a lesbian couple.
User avatar #60 - Tormound (01/04/2015) [-]
And they later outright confirmed it...
User avatar #8 - veya (01/04/2015) [-]
It was heavily implied in the final episode, and the producers latter confirmed in their blogs, so yes, they are together.
#139 - pigsnax (01/05/2015) [-]
It was also forced as fuck by the fanbase Not that I give a shit
#84 - aerosol (01/05/2015) [-]







I really hope they weren't just listening to the fans on that one.
User avatar #87 - veya (01/05/2015) [-]
Bryan did claim that he shipped Korrasami since the first season third paragraph here bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/105916338157/korrasami-is-canon-you-can-celebrate-it-embrace , so it probably wasn't only for the fans, though I wouldn't be too surprised if it influenced the final decision.
User avatar #121 - doctadoc (01/05/2015) [-]
Yeah, but the script was made last year (2013) and Korrasami didn't become a bandwagon thing until earlier in 2014
User avatar #117 - aerosol (01/05/2015) [-]
That almost makes me feel even worse.
#125 - rollfourexplain (01/05/2015) [-]
**rollfourexplain used "*roll 1, 0-9999*"**
**rollfourexplain rolls 7,926**

The way the legitimacy was provided makes me believe it would never have been if not for all the shipping. Though I have not seen all of Korra, and can't imagine myself doing that any time soon, I will not believe that she is actually a lesbian. It's all of this tumblr shipping hype and sexualization that has ended up influencing the original work (primarily because one of the lead writers uses tumblr).

I mean I don't really care anyways but I think this is just max-level shipping. I can't get over how illegitimate this feels. I don't like the whole show so I guess I'll just try to side step the topic for a little while anyways. It's not my beef.
#128 - bann (01/05/2015) [-]
I think that they did the best they could between being on a kids network No way way Nick going to air anything that directly stated they supported gay anything and risk losing a huge following. and having to cope with shorter seasons than they wanted.
#127 - aerosol (01/05/2015) [-]
I just had high hopes for the show, so I really hope it wasn't something they did in the name of being politically correct.

I think good animators should just do what they like.
User avatar #34 - Her (01/04/2015) [-]
Wait it's legit??
User avatar #7 - Lambda (01/04/2015) [-]
It was implied in the finale, and the creators later confirmed that they intended to imply it.
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even if it was easy to get a license... I imagine you'd need a big cage and whatever kind of bird house and food it needs and whatever maintenence a bird like that needs, I can only imagine its a pain in the ass and a lot of work... but what do i know...
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It is. A pain in the ass. And idk why you're convincing me, I think the same way
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honestly i absolutely agree. i have a family member who is severely autistic and its a burden bro. like srsly. better off dead.

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