The sad thing is, you're like the only other person I've seen on here that wasn't trying to out her for being transgender. It's sad

Yeah well I've kinda given up caring.

Caring about life, everyone's an asshole and I don't know why I bother.

no u

Ouch

what did she say?

Even if it were in my power to tell you that, I probably wouldn't.

Yeah and people still have the temerity to say that I'm the asshole.

Did you even do anything to warrant that? Or did she lie and say it?

I tried to talk to her.

shush

Hahahaha

Is it any of your business what I do?

All U do is drowning in self-pity.

I can do what I want.

no u

1392
BACKED UP

BACKED UP HE SAYS

NOT ONCE HAS HE LINKED AN ARTICLE OR DOCUMENT

LOL

YEAH

BYE

>>1394, What have I done

>>1394, ****** up the thing for a start.

Well by golly now I look like a retard.

I keep forgetting it doesn't work on profiles

It doesn't?
News to me.

Apparently not, I wonder why.

******* jesus I'm not responsible for your education, holy **** there's this thing called google you can use.

You're responsible for defending your side of an argument, its not my responsibility to trust your words without an official source or document
YOU CANT WRITE AN ESSAY WITHOUT CITATIONS

PLEASE

DUDE

CMON

I already told you there is no argument, this is medical fact. I'm not the one who will benefit from your education. Do you genuinely think I'd have to give evidence that the world is round?

THIS IS MEDICAL FACT

I AM GIRL IN BOY BODY

FACT

100%
TOTALLY TRUE

BECAUSE I SAID SO

LOL

Would you kindly hop on over to wikipedia... because I am done here.

Boy, I don't know what grade you're in, because you seem like you've never submitted a college essay.

They don't accept essays without sources. Just Like I'm not accepting your statements that you're a girl in a male body without a source.

Please, do yourself a favor, and kill yourself. Goodbye, once and for all, jesus christ I need to finally stop saying bye, goodbye, blah, blah, im starving, goodbye

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender
Here's your source, since you don't know how to use google.

Thank you for the source FINALLY.
You are male, based on the fact that you have a dick., who is identifying as a girl, correct?

That is correct

Congratulations, you are male. And unless I see you walking around in a frilly pink dress, or some other clothes and I can't recognize you are platinumaltari(a), I will refer to you as male, whether you like it or not.

Well then that makes you an asshole, nothing to be done. There's no cure for being a cunt.

Nope, I already knew I was an asshole, stating it multiple times won't change a thing. I believe we can both agree at this point, we are finally done.

Well yes, it's clear that some people are so entrenched in stupidity that there's no helping them, despite my best efforts you just don't want to be right.

If it's the same thing why are you getting so upset about it?

I'm no less a girl than anyone else... Claiming any different would be ingenuine.

If you're a girl, that makes me Abe Lincoln's reincarnation.
Same logic.

I'm "upset" because you're ******* retarded, you never told me your age so I'm assuming your just a teen going through a highschool crisis.

Case closed, I'm out.

No it isn't, because they are not like and like.

My age has no effect on my ability to think rationally, and given that I evidently have a much stronger grasp on reality than you I'd argue that maybe you should shut your mouth and open your ears a little.

Case

Closed

I'm

Out

Sure you are, you're so out you had to tell me about it twice xD
Just admit you're wrong.

There is no "wrong" in a battle of opinions.
Literally 0 facts have been made in this entire argument.

C

A

S

E

C

L

O

S

E

D

But it's not an opinion, the scientific consensus on the subject is that I'm right and you're wrong. There's no argument left to be made, it's simply the way things are. Either you can except that or forever be that elderly guy who hates the gays.

Do you have evidence to back up your statements,
NOPE



C

aSE
ClsOSESED

What evidence would you like me to provide?

Some sort of official document saying "X is female", otherwise, you're as much a girl as I am Christopher Columbus

Except I am not female.

You said it.
Right there.
My entire point.
Boom, badda, bang.
Case

FINALLY

OFFICIALLY

CLOSED

NO MORE REPLIES WILL BE MADE

Great job, you destroyed your own strawman. Now, how about you stop acting like a child.

Let's do an experiment, how do you know you are a guy?

You want a dick pic?

So you're saying men without penises aren't men?

If you were born with a penis, you are male. If you're born with a vagina, you're female.
If you were born with both, you are a transvestite.
If you're born with neither, you're Intersex.

Its that simple, thats whats official these days, blah, blah, post all your opinions you want, whatever genitalia you were born with, thats what you are. The doctors aren't going to refer to you as female when they're checking for lumps on your dick. Imagine that world all you want.

dictionary.reference.com/browse/girl
heres some evidence, you say you are a girl (1372) but not a female (1384), blah blah, im going to go get food now, goodbye

trans·ves·tite
noun
a person, typically a man, who derives pleasure from dressing in clothes appropriate to the opposite sex.

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Thank you for the acknowledgement?

I'm not asking for doctors to do anything, I'm talking to you. So here are the options you have:
1) You can accept that your previous idea of reality is wrong.
2) You can continue to be "that asshole", who will wind up alone and with no friends.

Because you're using the exact same reasoning they used when gay people tried this.
"Hurr durr one man one woman"

1) You can accept that your previous idea of reality is wrong.
Opinion
2) You can continue to be "that asshole", who will wind up alone and with no friends.
Opinion

cmon dude, let me leave, the stupid hurts

Well you see the thing about that is that I'm backed up by the entire field of psychology, whereas you're just a little bitch.

>>1350 bro, if you can't even show your face to a stranger on the internet who will probably forget you as soon as he leaves the page, you won't be able to handle walking outside your house as a gender change at all

Well it's not a gender change, it's a sex change...

Biological Gender (sex) includes physical attributes such as external genitalia, sex chromosomes, gonads, sex hormones, and internal reproductive structures. At birth, it is used to assign sex, that is, to identify individuals as male or female.


Its the same thing. Don't tell me you're one of those who makes up all those ******** pronouns like demi-pandora-fox sexual, thats all in your conscience. Theres only Male and Female when you walk outside your front door

Sex and gender are distinct though... Sex being the physical aspect defined by chromosomes and gender being the internal aspect defined by hormones (probably)

No
You can't have a penis and have a female gender, thats not what theyre going to put on your Drivers License or ID
Thats not how the real world works
The real world does not work like tumblr

Right. Do me a favour and leave.

Will do boss, enjoy your cringecave.

Do you genuinely think that you're going to convince me that something which is totally apparent to me is in fact false? Because that's pretty ******* stupid.

Oh i'm sorry, I thought we were spouting about ******** , like how you think you're so ugly a gender change would fix it

I'm ugly because I am the wrong sex.

That statement, right there, ponder over that comment you just made for a long time, and how stupid that is.

You have managed to try so hard to convice yourself you are ugly because you were the "wrong" gender.

"I was born in the wrong generation"
"I'm actually a wolf trapped in a mans body"
"I'm a white man trapped in a black mans body"
"I am supposed to be x, because thats what I told myself"

man you're supposed to be open and accepting when you're a therapist

I'm not an official therapist

You see now you're comparing with **** that's just ******* impossible.

You can't identify as black or some ******* animal because that **** is physical.
And the phrase "born in the wrong generation" is just a stupid saying you **** , people don't actually think that.

I didn't "tell myself" I was anything anymore than you "told yourself", I simply am, and despite my best efforts I am unable to not be.
You sound like one of those "pray the gay away" ******* , jesus ******* christ listen to yourself.

***** , like, you are spouting out the most irony I have ever heard.
Like, I get it, the louder you yell and the more you curse the more you think your right.

But the statements you just made, is a massive, **** pile of irony

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

I don't think you think before you say

I happen to be telling you how things are, and you're denying it because it doesn't fit your current understanding of reality. It's called confirmation bias and it's a killer.

The exact same statement fits what you're claiming.
I understand completely, something you have absolutley 0 control of is somehow "wrong".

But you didn't come to that conclusion until after your personality and behavior has developed over AFTER you were born "wrong".
I could spend 5 years living with wolves, but I would never claim I was supposed to be a wolf, since I had no control.

If you really want that gender change so badly, do it. Then you can truly judge if you were "supposed" to be a girl.

I'm supposed to be an astronaught because I have an urge to explore space, I wouldn't expect you to understand.

I have no control over ISIS, but I'd wager most people agree they are wrong.

Yes, but you see gender is not something you pick, so unfortunately I can't just pretend like it isn't a problem when it is.

I wasn't "supposed" to be anything, I simply am.

"I am a woman trapped in a mans body"

No, I am a girl in a male body.

You can't be that ugly. I mean, you had at least one gf from what you've told me, so it can't be something unfixable.

Well she left me didn't she...

That doesn't matter. She was attracted to you enough to stay with you for however long she did.

a couple weeks

I see.

What part of yourself do you think is the least ugly?

It's all equally ugly.

That is not true. There has to be one part of yourself you hate less than the others.

I would say that I'm somewhat unattractive, but my eyes looks nice.

This body is not mine.

Well, you were born with it, so I guess it is.

Not really.

:/

I don't expect you to understand.

I probably wouldn't, no.

Well that's not your fault.

I mean, a full body gender change would make you uglier (They don't normally make you look better in the looks department) and probably more health problems so, theres no advantage there

How so?

I'm no psychiatrist or whatever so I can't tell you any factual evidence, but if you're looking to become better looking, a gender change is not the way to go

Well it's hardly an option not to.

Would it be too much to ask for an IRL and your age?

Showing you my true face would cause your entire body to invert as your sanity was rent in two.

Dude, I don't even flinch when I see dead bodies IRL. Unless you have 3 mortified dicks coming out of your face I won't budge, just show me

It's not that I look bad, it's that I would turn you into an eldritch beast equipped with tentacles and suckers if you even glanced at me.

I highly doubt that, stop making excuses and show me

Er no.

Wow, that looks pretty cool.

So, a surgery to completely change your gender would make you happy?

Well if at all possible if someone could go around and alter my chromosomes on top that would be wonderful.

That's nice. Sorry if this is impolite to ask, but are you MtF or FtM?

MtF

Okay. Have you done anything in, like, your transition(I think that's what it's called)?

also sorry for not responding I fell asleep

nope

Do you think doing something like that would make you feel better?

I doubt it.

Why not? I mean, wouldn't it make you happier to be more comfortable in your own body?

At the current state there's no point.

why not?

It just makes me a freak.

Not necessarily. You may be different, but different isn't always bad.

I'm already different; no one should ever want to be that.

What exactly do you mean by that?

If I could just be normal I'd like that.

What's holding you back from being normal? Lack of friends? Ugly? Bad at socializing?

Those problems can be fixed.

Looking like this.

So you think you're ugly?

Well I am.

rude ;-;

did he hurt u altaria? tell me where he hurt u!

Does harassing me arouse you?

Does arousing me harass you?

I'm just teasing

Not really the time.

sowwy

2late

noooooooooooooooo don't do it

Maybe it'll work this time.

I hope it fails!
Also happy New Year from the states!

**** you.

I'd rather you not die
Good night!

well too bad.

To fix the problems

can you explain? houw would you fix?

Puberty.

i dont understand

It damaged me

things can get better

No, they can only get worse.

just make changes
find a passion
become DRIVEN as **** about it
or even better
pick something new, a hobby, an interest, that you currently dont give a **** about
and put enough effort into it to master than hobby
distract your mind from the bad thoughts

I can't, this **** doesn't go away...

what **** specifically?

Feeling like crap in this cage

what cage?

my body.

science can change your body a lot these days

Not enough

ok but please be safe

what's happening joshlol??

I've already done it, it's a matter of time.

nah I'm gonna.

why
what's so bad with your life?
talk to me

Put it this way, there's nothing about it that's good. I have nothing.

how old are you?

Scroll up...

don't you think 18 is a little young to have those thoughts already?
a lot can change in a small amount of time
what's making your sad?
and what would make you happy?
what do you want out of life?

I've had those thoughts for years... so no.
Life is making me sad
My gf is gone, has been for 9 months now, and I'm still in love with her. I haven't even spoken too her in that time.
I'm trans... so that's nice.
And I'm basically ****** in terms of a job, so there's no future for me there.

Well that's an easy one, I've been there myself. It's simple, tell her how you feel. Then, she will either act like a bitch, in which case nothing of value was lost, or she will **** you right there in the street...

Bad grades.

I already told her and made it perfectly clear

bad grades don't make you unemployable
you can just take some lower paying job you didn't have as your dream job, do an apprenticeship, go back to school after a few years of working, etc

And what did she say?

What's the point, my life hurts me.

she says sweet things that make me think just for a moment there could be something special between us. then she loses interest. every time.

lifes full of pain but you dont just give up

Yeah that's an active friendzone scenario, which basically means she is using you to feel good about herself. Dump her fast.

Well it's a bit late for that.

shes all i got.

so make changes to make yourself happy

No she isn't, after I let go of my previous crush I got into my first actual relationship. Seriously I was right where you are now.

Can't.

im a hopeless clingy loser, i tried many times to let go

why cant you?

So am I :p

Some things can't be fixed.

they can if you want it enough

That's just denial, I can't reverse time.

why would you need to reverse time?

Well you aren't gonna, I'm justified.

Well, I guess if you're that persistent about it, then there's nothing really that I can do to help you.

That's because people want me to be better without doing anything to help.

Well, what can I do to help?

no.

Like idk

/user/platinumaltaria/1220#1220
What exactly did you mean by this comment? What did you do?

a thing which apparently did not work

That's kinda concerning. Did you take some crazy overdose.

Clearly not because I'm still alive

That was stupid

No because I'm alive

Maybe the effects just haven't kicked in yet.

Overdosing is actually one of the more painful ways to kill yourself, it just looks humane.

Well I didn't, so...

That whatd you do

nothing

Oh, you just sounded like you did something to kill yourself.

I'm not gonna, I lied

You're not gonna kill yourself?

I am, just not right now

Well... I guess that's better than killing yourself now.

Anything else you want to talk about?

How about the fact that I have to threaten my own life to garner any interest

Idk

I just saw in the comments of that one post that you were gonna kill yourself and wanted to talk to you a bit

Maybe try to convince you otherwise...

sitting

Were you doing anything while you were sitting?

staving off the madness

What were you doing before all this sitting?

I have been sitting here all day

What have you done other than sitting in the past week?

nothing

What have you done other than sitting in the past month?

nothing. I'm boring

Well, is there anything that you have seen and thought "Damn, that's cool".

It can be anything, I won't judge.

no

Oh.

Well, what I'm getting at is that you need to find something that interests you, and start doing something related towards that.

I'm supposed to apply for uni within the next 15 days

That's exciting! What uni are you planning on going to?

I'm not, I just have to.

You should

Well I'm not qualified.

Oh

That sucks

Plus I don't really know what course to do

I heard Supply Chain Management is going to be really big within the next decade

no.

Do it for your family

especially no

Do it for that one girl

she'd find out like a year later

Anyone else that you haven't mentioned that cares about you?

Do it for them.

no one does

Do it for yourself then.

no

Why not?

I hate life

Why?

It hurts

It won't hurt forever. You just need something to do. Something to live for. Something you enjoy doing. Or at least something to occupy the time and drown out those suicidal thoughts.

well I have nothing like that

You should find something like that. What do you do in your free time?

nothing

You do nothing? You just sit down and stare at a wall all day?

all my time is free, I got bored long ago

Okay. What were you doing before you started talking to me?

It's not stupid if I succeed!

Ye it is

You'd be dead

So? no one cares

I care

No you don't.

Well, even if you think I don't care, there are likely others that do. What about your parents?

They don't even know I attempted suicide with them in the house...

They care about you, it'd break their heart to see their child's dead body

not really. They might not even find me for days

You underestimate how bad dead bodies smell

I do not smell

You will when you're dead and rotting

eh

welp I'm gonna go die now

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

It's a permanent problem tho

No it's not. You may be sad now, but if you kill yourself, then you're eliminating any chance of it getting better.

It won't.

Yes it will. Keep your chin up.

I don't have any.

None? I don't believe that. There has to be some goal you have for yourself once you get out of school.

I am out of school...

Oh, I just assumed you were since you said you're 18.

But it still kinda applies, what do you have planned for the future?

nothing

What do you want for your future? Like, what kind of job, family, house, etc.

I don't care.

-_-

I thought I could have a life with someone but they're gone now.

i'm here

You are not a mark on her.

No my name's not mark but I'll be by ur side altaria

Aww, why not?

They left me

Ouch, that sucks. But the way I see it, if someone leaves you, then they weren't worth our time anyways.

She was, and she'll come back

Well, if she'll come back then there's no point in kicking the can, is there?

bit late now, let's see if I die this time, eh?

Oh come on, I'll fail like I did before and have to live a couple more days.

Or you could not try

Well it's already done

Did you do something stupid?

what?

Just wanted to say hello

How's your new years?

As awful as every other arbitrary day.