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#57 - Stolen from Reddit. 06/07/2013 on My fucking Uncle is a Cheap... +1
#8 - KFF! KFF! 06/07/2013 on Snipers -1
#3 - Atheism.....  [+] (1 new reply) 06/07/2013 on GENIUS 0
#5 - anonymous (06/07/2013) [-]
although it does belong there, i never want to see it called religion again
#6 - Kinda looks like The Svinesund bridge, but not sure....  [+] (1 new reply) 04/21/2013 on 4/20 in Norway 0
User avatar #8 - friendlytroll (04/21/2013) [-]
Nah, definitely not that.
#85 - I read that in Bills voice... Hilarious! 03/28/2013 on Take Note +2
#65 - Regardless, it taught him a lesson..  [+] (1 new reply) 03/24/2013 on Legend +2
#67 - kaoknight has deleted their comment.
#59 - Australia actually.  [+] (3 new replies) 03/24/2013 on Legend +4
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#65 - photonmik (03/24/2013) [-]
Regardless, it taught him a lesson..
#67 - kaoknight has deleted their comment.
#27 - Yes, I'm the child. Because I didn't start personal attacks. … 03/10/2013 on If EA Games Sold Pizza... +4
#21 - So do I, freedom of information. I have integrity enough to bu…  [+] (17 new replies) 03/10/2013 on If EA Games Sold Pizza... +6
#23 - winglit (03/10/2013) [-]
If you pirate games you dont tell a company theyre being dicks, you simply show them your a pirate, if you purchase the game later down the line that doesnt make it ok, you played it already, the reason games go down in price is because your paying for the privilege of playing early, and just buying some of the games you pirate doesnt make it alright, you're a child, nothing more nothing less, do as you please but just remember, if you dont pay, then what the fuck gives you the right to play? youre not special by birthright, and just because you have a job doesn't mean youre responsible and it doesnt make piracy ok, say what you will but you've proven my point, you're so desperate to defend your piracy. youre a self centered little kid, you dont know that the universe doesn't revolve around you because mama said it did... bye kid, hope one day you realize that piracy isnt helpful to the industry, its just a child justifying childish things to himself, heres hoping people stop this stupid shit and are more responsible with their gaming, but thats a dream i fear will die in time, best of luck to you, im going to bed.
User avatar #42 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
Piracy kills developers. This is a fact that cannot be changed, no matter how you look at it.

BUT

If DRM prevents you (a paying customer) from playing the game, then it shouldn't be there in the first place.

But if the pirated game actually works better than the one with the included DRM, then has the dev really earned their money? someone else needed to spend their own time to fix it to make the game playable

DRM can be good, Take steam for Example. I like their DRM, anti cheat, anti Piracy, you can redownload your games at any time, and most you can play offline once you play the game and authenticate online.

That's good DRM in my opinion, it works. Sure hackers can get around it these days, but because of it's benefits, you are very much encouraged to buy these steam games and you get many benefits from doing so... particularly valve's games.


that being said....I'm not saint, I'll pirate some games, but I've also got 204 games attached to my steam account as well as plenty of other legal games (none from origin because of their DRM)

#523 - anonymous (03/10/2013) [-]
drm has never inconvenienced me

maybe you're all entitled little shits?
User avatar #541 - billybong (03/11/2013) [-]
Sounds like youve never tried to log into origin or games for windows live or played any recent blizzard game
User avatar #56 - taintedangel (03/10/2013) [-]
Also add to the fact that steam sells games for very cheap. Being inexpensive is the biggest factor to anti-piracy.

"Oh, this really cool game that's been out for a year or two that I didn't get to play yet in now only $15? Sweet."
#45 - winglit (03/10/2013) [-]
Look what im saying is that piracy isnt justified simply because a game has shitty DRM, THAT SAID i wouldnt buy a game with DRM, its like saying its robinhood syndrome, no matter how you slice it your taking something not yours, if you dont like what they do dont buy it, simple as that, but piracy no matter the case isnt something you brag about doing, if its your guilty pleasure fine, but dont try and pretend its helpful to the industry
User avatar #53 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
Well, with your argument seemingly over, I just wanna toss this little thing in
EA don't deserve money. They are a shit company, with shit policies.
So, pirate as many EA games as possible until they finally take the lesson to heart and stop being fucksticks, or they go bankrupt. Win win.
#525 - anonymous (03/10/2013) [-]
Yea, that's done plenty to stop them and reduces the amount of DRM, doesn't it? Have you even been paying attention to history?
User avatar #59 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
for EA specifically, I agree.... I don't even need to explain why. we all know
User avatar #47 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
so... sounds like EA's top priority should be working DRM if they want to sell shit

till then, if their DRM doesn't work, neither will my wallet...

(also...didn't you say you were going to bed an hour ago to photonmik? tsk tsk)
User avatar #64 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
Not me, silly
User avatar #67 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
well the "going to bed" comment was to winglit's comment since it was #47 to comment #45 (or did I dun goof'd?) :P
User avatar #71 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
Honestly, I don't think I've even been on for an hour
#58 - winglit (03/10/2013) [-]
I shower before bed, and plan to go to sleep in just a moment but figured id take a look, and yeah EA is a shit company, which is why i dont buy their games, but pirating doesnt send the right kind of message thats what im trying to get across but everyone is so caught up in feeling like robinhood they immediately jump to defend the action of piracy when its nothing grander than not wanting to pay for something, you arent trying to send a message by pirating, you just dont want to pay for something, simple as that... unless of course your supplying these pirated games to orphans robinhood style in which case fine continue
User avatar #74 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
I was only joshing about the sleep thing :P (enjoy it whenever you get there)

But try to think about it from someone else's point of view who does still want to enjoy the game.

There isn't really any way other than piracy that you can say "I don't like something about you (or your company) so I won't pay for the product, but the product is still desirable"

You could write a letter I guess... saying you won't buy the game... Sif EA will care care

If EA can recognize that their games can be enjoyable, desirable, and playable and if they are all of those, people will pay what the product is worth. That's how the game industry existed before DRM and that's what the community wants again.

We don't mind expansions, that are about 1/2 the price of the original game and give about 50% more content, but we hate DLC that costs 5-10% of the original price that simply adds features taken out of the original release. (not all DLC is like this, but too much is)

Not all pirates are just cheapskates, some of us just don't like being duped.

I own legit copies of, the original sims, original C&C series (everything before RA3), Wolf 3d, all of the Quakes and Dooms. Every single one of them could have been pirated easily at the time but wasn't (because you only needed an original copy, a keygen and a nocd to crack those games). They were all paid for at the time of release, not even on sale...I haven't mentioned any games I picked up cheap after their release (like Unreal Tournement, or either of the Soldier of fortunes)
User avatar #70 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
I don't like pirating.
Too risky for my taste.
But if you have to, there's no better company to do it from than EA
#27 - photonmik (03/10/2013) [-]
Yes, I'm the child. Because I didn't start personal attacks.

Your opinion is irrelevant to the world.
#19 - You have no idea what you are talking about. A few people…  [+] (19 new replies) 03/09/2013 on If EA Games Sold Pizza... +6
#20 - winglit (03/09/2013) [-]
I have a full time job actually, and you really think that being entitled and pirating games from companies makes a difference? and maybe me not buying a game wont make a difference, but at the very least i stand up for what i think is right, you really feel like pirating shows them anything? and as for you not caring you obviously do as you keep replying, im defending what i feel is right so again im happy to see all the pirates who are rushing to defend themselves, your not some hero to the industry, your a little kid taking things and making excuses
#21 - photonmik (03/10/2013) [-]
So do I, freedom of information. I have integrity enough to buy games I enjoy. When Ubisoft lifted their sick DRM of 2070, I bought it.
#23 - winglit (03/10/2013) [-]
If you pirate games you dont tell a company theyre being dicks, you simply show them your a pirate, if you purchase the game later down the line that doesnt make it ok, you played it already, the reason games go down in price is because your paying for the privilege of playing early, and just buying some of the games you pirate doesnt make it alright, you're a child, nothing more nothing less, do as you please but just remember, if you dont pay, then what the fuck gives you the right to play? youre not special by birthright, and just because you have a job doesn't mean youre responsible and it doesnt make piracy ok, say what you will but you've proven my point, you're so desperate to defend your piracy. youre a self centered little kid, you dont know that the universe doesn't revolve around you because mama said it did... bye kid, hope one day you realize that piracy isnt helpful to the industry, its just a child justifying childish things to himself, heres hoping people stop this stupid shit and are more responsible with their gaming, but thats a dream i fear will die in time, best of luck to you, im going to bed.
User avatar #42 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
Piracy kills developers. This is a fact that cannot be changed, no matter how you look at it.

BUT

If DRM prevents you (a paying customer) from playing the game, then it shouldn't be there in the first place.

But if the pirated game actually works better than the one with the included DRM, then has the dev really earned their money? someone else needed to spend their own time to fix it to make the game playable

DRM can be good, Take steam for Example. I like their DRM, anti cheat, anti Piracy, you can redownload your games at any time, and most you can play offline once you play the game and authenticate online.

That's good DRM in my opinion, it works. Sure hackers can get around it these days, but because of it's benefits, you are very much encouraged to buy these steam games and you get many benefits from doing so... particularly valve's games.


that being said....I'm not saint, I'll pirate some games, but I've also got 204 games attached to my steam account as well as plenty of other legal games (none from origin because of their DRM)

#523 - anonymous (03/10/2013) [-]
drm has never inconvenienced me

maybe you're all entitled little shits?
User avatar #541 - billybong (03/11/2013) [-]
Sounds like youve never tried to log into origin or games for windows live or played any recent blizzard game
User avatar #56 - taintedangel (03/10/2013) [-]
Also add to the fact that steam sells games for very cheap. Being inexpensive is the biggest factor to anti-piracy.

"Oh, this really cool game that's been out for a year or two that I didn't get to play yet in now only $15? Sweet."
#45 - winglit (03/10/2013) [-]
Look what im saying is that piracy isnt justified simply because a game has shitty DRM, THAT SAID i wouldnt buy a game with DRM, its like saying its robinhood syndrome, no matter how you slice it your taking something not yours, if you dont like what they do dont buy it, simple as that, but piracy no matter the case isnt something you brag about doing, if its your guilty pleasure fine, but dont try and pretend its helpful to the industry
User avatar #53 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
Well, with your argument seemingly over, I just wanna toss this little thing in
EA don't deserve money. They are a shit company, with shit policies.
So, pirate as many EA games as possible until they finally take the lesson to heart and stop being fucksticks, or they go bankrupt. Win win.
#525 - anonymous (03/10/2013) [-]
Yea, that's done plenty to stop them and reduces the amount of DRM, doesn't it? Have you even been paying attention to history?
User avatar #59 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
for EA specifically, I agree.... I don't even need to explain why. we all know
User avatar #47 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
so... sounds like EA's top priority should be working DRM if they want to sell shit

till then, if their DRM doesn't work, neither will my wallet...

(also...didn't you say you were going to bed an hour ago to photonmik? tsk tsk)
User avatar #64 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
Not me, silly
User avatar #67 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
well the "going to bed" comment was to winglit's comment since it was #47 to comment #45 (or did I dun goof'd?) :P
User avatar #71 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
Honestly, I don't think I've even been on for an hour
#58 - winglit (03/10/2013) [-]
I shower before bed, and plan to go to sleep in just a moment but figured id take a look, and yeah EA is a shit company, which is why i dont buy their games, but pirating doesnt send the right kind of message thats what im trying to get across but everyone is so caught up in feeling like robinhood they immediately jump to defend the action of piracy when its nothing grander than not wanting to pay for something, you arent trying to send a message by pirating, you just dont want to pay for something, simple as that... unless of course your supplying these pirated games to orphans robinhood style in which case fine continue
User avatar #74 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
I was only joshing about the sleep thing :P (enjoy it whenever you get there)

But try to think about it from someone else's point of view who does still want to enjoy the game.

There isn't really any way other than piracy that you can say "I don't like something about you (or your company) so I won't pay for the product, but the product is still desirable"

You could write a letter I guess... saying you won't buy the game... Sif EA will care care

If EA can recognize that their games can be enjoyable, desirable, and playable and if they are all of those, people will pay what the product is worth. That's how the game industry existed before DRM and that's what the community wants again.

We don't mind expansions, that are about 1/2 the price of the original game and give about 50% more content, but we hate DLC that costs 5-10% of the original price that simply adds features taken out of the original release. (not all DLC is like this, but too much is)

Not all pirates are just cheapskates, some of us just don't like being duped.

I own legit copies of, the original sims, original C&C series (everything before RA3), Wolf 3d, all of the Quakes and Dooms. Every single one of them could have been pirated easily at the time but wasn't (because you only needed an original copy, a keygen and a nocd to crack those games). They were all paid for at the time of release, not even on sale...I haven't mentioned any games I picked up cheap after their release (like Unreal Tournement, or either of the Soldier of fortunes)
User avatar #70 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
I don't like pirating.
Too risky for my taste.
But if you have to, there's no better company to do it from than EA
#27 - photonmik (03/10/2013) [-]
Yes, I'm the child. Because I didn't start personal attacks.

Your opinion is irrelevant to the world.
#15 - Then you should blame the corps. I don't read your s…  [+] (22 new replies) 03/09/2013 on If EA Games Sold Pizza... +5
#16 - winglit (03/09/2013) [-]
I blame both sides, Pirates for being stupid little shits who justify their actions because "the corporation is bad wah ill pirate thatll show em" and the corporations for thinking "well always on DRM then thatll stop the pirates!" its similar to the war on terror, our government does stupid shit in order to beat the terrorists and the terrorists think that hurting the Innocent will show em, in the end the only ones really hurt are the ones not involved in the first place, with gaming DRM becoming more strict in order to fight a battle against useless self centered Twats, oh and heres an idea, if you dont like a corporations business model, DONT BUY FROM THEM, dont play the fucking game either, if you pirate it that just tells them "i like your game but i also dont like paying for things" it doesnt send any kind of message, if you want the industry to change, dont buy from the people you dont like, AND DONT PIRATE, you greedy motherfucker, i dont purchase EA games, Or games from Sega, and guess what? i dont play them either, because i dont want them to feel like they can pull this shit, try not being such a spoiled kid ok? or watch the gaming industry burn.
User avatar #63 - Maroon (03/10/2013) [-]
He's right in one thing though, it is the corps ruining games. Instead of focusing on making good material that people will pay for and enjoy, they are busy coming up with ways to extort as much money as possible from a single game and at the same time trying to push out as many games as possible so they skimp on quality and heap on the bullshit.
#19 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
You have no idea what you are talking about.
A few people not buying their stuff won't change anything.
Piracy also forwards progress, but I guess you don't know anything about that at all.
Since all you are capable of doing is trying to take shots at me, even though I don't really care about your opinion. If you feel you are such a saint. Good for you.

I'm not even spoiled.
I work 9-10 hours a day Mon-Fri. Probably 100% more than you.

#20 - winglit (03/09/2013) [-]
I have a full time job actually, and you really think that being entitled and pirating games from companies makes a difference? and maybe me not buying a game wont make a difference, but at the very least i stand up for what i think is right, you really feel like pirating shows them anything? and as for you not caring you obviously do as you keep replying, im defending what i feel is right so again im happy to see all the pirates who are rushing to defend themselves, your not some hero to the industry, your a little kid taking things and making excuses
#21 - photonmik (03/10/2013) [-]
So do I, freedom of information. I have integrity enough to buy games I enjoy. When Ubisoft lifted their sick DRM of 2070, I bought it.
#23 - winglit (03/10/2013) [-]
If you pirate games you dont tell a company theyre being dicks, you simply show them your a pirate, if you purchase the game later down the line that doesnt make it ok, you played it already, the reason games go down in price is because your paying for the privilege of playing early, and just buying some of the games you pirate doesnt make it alright, you're a child, nothing more nothing less, do as you please but just remember, if you dont pay, then what the fuck gives you the right to play? youre not special by birthright, and just because you have a job doesn't mean youre responsible and it doesnt make piracy ok, say what you will but you've proven my point, you're so desperate to defend your piracy. youre a self centered little kid, you dont know that the universe doesn't revolve around you because mama said it did... bye kid, hope one day you realize that piracy isnt helpful to the industry, its just a child justifying childish things to himself, heres hoping people stop this stupid shit and are more responsible with their gaming, but thats a dream i fear will die in time, best of luck to you, im going to bed.
User avatar #42 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
Piracy kills developers. This is a fact that cannot be changed, no matter how you look at it.

BUT

If DRM prevents you (a paying customer) from playing the game, then it shouldn't be there in the first place.

But if the pirated game actually works better than the one with the included DRM, then has the dev really earned their money? someone else needed to spend their own time to fix it to make the game playable

DRM can be good, Take steam for Example. I like their DRM, anti cheat, anti Piracy, you can redownload your games at any time, and most you can play offline once you play the game and authenticate online.

That's good DRM in my opinion, it works. Sure hackers can get around it these days, but because of it's benefits, you are very much encouraged to buy these steam games and you get many benefits from doing so... particularly valve's games.


that being said....I'm not saint, I'll pirate some games, but I've also got 204 games attached to my steam account as well as plenty of other legal games (none from origin because of their DRM)

#523 - anonymous (03/10/2013) [-]
drm has never inconvenienced me

maybe you're all entitled little shits?
User avatar #541 - billybong (03/11/2013) [-]
Sounds like youve never tried to log into origin or games for windows live or played any recent blizzard game
User avatar #56 - taintedangel (03/10/2013) [-]
Also add to the fact that steam sells games for very cheap. Being inexpensive is the biggest factor to anti-piracy.

"Oh, this really cool game that's been out for a year or two that I didn't get to play yet in now only $15? Sweet."
#45 - winglit (03/10/2013) [-]
Look what im saying is that piracy isnt justified simply because a game has shitty DRM, THAT SAID i wouldnt buy a game with DRM, its like saying its robinhood syndrome, no matter how you slice it your taking something not yours, if you dont like what they do dont buy it, simple as that, but piracy no matter the case isnt something you brag about doing, if its your guilty pleasure fine, but dont try and pretend its helpful to the industry
User avatar #53 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
Well, with your argument seemingly over, I just wanna toss this little thing in
EA don't deserve money. They are a shit company, with shit policies.
So, pirate as many EA games as possible until they finally take the lesson to heart and stop being fucksticks, or they go bankrupt. Win win.
#525 - anonymous (03/10/2013) [-]
Yea, that's done plenty to stop them and reduces the amount of DRM, doesn't it? Have you even been paying attention to history?
User avatar #59 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
for EA specifically, I agree.... I don't even need to explain why. we all know
User avatar #47 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
so... sounds like EA's top priority should be working DRM if they want to sell shit

till then, if their DRM doesn't work, neither will my wallet...

(also...didn't you say you were going to bed an hour ago to photonmik? tsk tsk)
User avatar #64 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
Not me, silly
User avatar #67 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
well the "going to bed" comment was to winglit's comment since it was #47 to comment #45 (or did I dun goof'd?) :P
User avatar #71 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
Honestly, I don't think I've even been on for an hour
#58 - winglit (03/10/2013) [-]
I shower before bed, and plan to go to sleep in just a moment but figured id take a look, and yeah EA is a shit company, which is why i dont buy their games, but pirating doesnt send the right kind of message thats what im trying to get across but everyone is so caught up in feeling like robinhood they immediately jump to defend the action of piracy when its nothing grander than not wanting to pay for something, you arent trying to send a message by pirating, you just dont want to pay for something, simple as that... unless of course your supplying these pirated games to orphans robinhood style in which case fine continue
User avatar #74 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
I was only joshing about the sleep thing :P (enjoy it whenever you get there)

But try to think about it from someone else's point of view who does still want to enjoy the game.

There isn't really any way other than piracy that you can say "I don't like something about you (or your company) so I won't pay for the product, but the product is still desirable"

You could write a letter I guess... saying you won't buy the game... Sif EA will care care

If EA can recognize that their games can be enjoyable, desirable, and playable and if they are all of those, people will pay what the product is worth. That's how the game industry existed before DRM and that's what the community wants again.

We don't mind expansions, that are about 1/2 the price of the original game and give about 50% more content, but we hate DLC that costs 5-10% of the original price that simply adds features taken out of the original release. (not all DLC is like this, but too much is)

Not all pirates are just cheapskates, some of us just don't like being duped.

I own legit copies of, the original sims, original C&C series (everything before RA3), Wolf 3d, all of the Quakes and Dooms. Every single one of them could have been pirated easily at the time but wasn't (because you only needed an original copy, a keygen and a nocd to crack those games). They were all paid for at the time of release, not even on sale...I haven't mentioned any games I picked up cheap after their release (like Unreal Tournement, or either of the Soldier of fortunes)
User avatar #70 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
I don't like pirating.
Too risky for my taste.
But if you have to, there's no better company to do it from than EA
#27 - photonmik (03/10/2013) [-]
Yes, I'm the child. Because I didn't start personal attacks.

Your opinion is irrelevant to the world.
#15 - Boomstick it.  [+] (1 new reply) 03/09/2013 on photonmik's profile 0
User avatar #16 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
aww yeah
#13 - Yeah.. Like it's sewn together..  [+] (3 new replies) 03/09/2013 on photonmik's profile 0
User avatar #14 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
someone needs to tear it apart
#15 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Boomstick it.
User avatar #16 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
aww yeah
#12 - Oh I get it, you have no idea. And people like you accept DRM …  [+] (24 new replies) 03/09/2013 on If EA Games Sold Pizza... +12
#14 - winglit (03/09/2013) [-]
Except i hate DRM and blame pirates (and rightfully so) for allowing big corporations to justify always on DRM and the like to stop piracy... you really think that i like being stuck online in games? are you fucking retarded? did you even READ my comments? i hate DRM and I hate piracy, because its damaging to the industry i love so much, IM a GAMER not some spoiled brat get it? got it? GOOD! :D
#15 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Then you should blame the corps.

I don't read your stupid shit, no..

Also, you know that the corporations are ruining the industry you love... "Gamer"
#16 - winglit (03/09/2013) [-]
I blame both sides, Pirates for being stupid little shits who justify their actions because "the corporation is bad wah ill pirate thatll show em" and the corporations for thinking "well always on DRM then thatll stop the pirates!" its similar to the war on terror, our government does stupid shit in order to beat the terrorists and the terrorists think that hurting the Innocent will show em, in the end the only ones really hurt are the ones not involved in the first place, with gaming DRM becoming more strict in order to fight a battle against useless self centered Twats, oh and heres an idea, if you dont like a corporations business model, DONT BUY FROM THEM, dont play the fucking game either, if you pirate it that just tells them "i like your game but i also dont like paying for things" it doesnt send any kind of message, if you want the industry to change, dont buy from the people you dont like, AND DONT PIRATE, you greedy motherfucker, i dont purchase EA games, Or games from Sega, and guess what? i dont play them either, because i dont want them to feel like they can pull this shit, try not being such a spoiled kid ok? or watch the gaming industry burn.
User avatar #63 - Maroon (03/10/2013) [-]
He's right in one thing though, it is the corps ruining games. Instead of focusing on making good material that people will pay for and enjoy, they are busy coming up with ways to extort as much money as possible from a single game and at the same time trying to push out as many games as possible so they skimp on quality and heap on the bullshit.
#19 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
You have no idea what you are talking about.
A few people not buying their stuff won't change anything.
Piracy also forwards progress, but I guess you don't know anything about that at all.
Since all you are capable of doing is trying to take shots at me, even though I don't really care about your opinion. If you feel you are such a saint. Good for you.

I'm not even spoiled.
I work 9-10 hours a day Mon-Fri. Probably 100% more than you.

#20 - winglit (03/09/2013) [-]
I have a full time job actually, and you really think that being entitled and pirating games from companies makes a difference? and maybe me not buying a game wont make a difference, but at the very least i stand up for what i think is right, you really feel like pirating shows them anything? and as for you not caring you obviously do as you keep replying, im defending what i feel is right so again im happy to see all the pirates who are rushing to defend themselves, your not some hero to the industry, your a little kid taking things and making excuses
#21 - photonmik (03/10/2013) [-]
So do I, freedom of information. I have integrity enough to buy games I enjoy. When Ubisoft lifted their sick DRM of 2070, I bought it.
#23 - winglit (03/10/2013) [-]
If you pirate games you dont tell a company theyre being dicks, you simply show them your a pirate, if you purchase the game later down the line that doesnt make it ok, you played it already, the reason games go down in price is because your paying for the privilege of playing early, and just buying some of the games you pirate doesnt make it alright, you're a child, nothing more nothing less, do as you please but just remember, if you dont pay, then what the fuck gives you the right to play? youre not special by birthright, and just because you have a job doesn't mean youre responsible and it doesnt make piracy ok, say what you will but you've proven my point, you're so desperate to defend your piracy. youre a self centered little kid, you dont know that the universe doesn't revolve around you because mama said it did... bye kid, hope one day you realize that piracy isnt helpful to the industry, its just a child justifying childish things to himself, heres hoping people stop this stupid shit and are more responsible with their gaming, but thats a dream i fear will die in time, best of luck to you, im going to bed.
User avatar #42 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
Piracy kills developers. This is a fact that cannot be changed, no matter how you look at it.

BUT

If DRM prevents you (a paying customer) from playing the game, then it shouldn't be there in the first place.

But if the pirated game actually works better than the one with the included DRM, then has the dev really earned their money? someone else needed to spend their own time to fix it to make the game playable

DRM can be good, Take steam for Example. I like their DRM, anti cheat, anti Piracy, you can redownload your games at any time, and most you can play offline once you play the game and authenticate online.

That's good DRM in my opinion, it works. Sure hackers can get around it these days, but because of it's benefits, you are very much encouraged to buy these steam games and you get many benefits from doing so... particularly valve's games.


that being said....I'm not saint, I'll pirate some games, but I've also got 204 games attached to my steam account as well as plenty of other legal games (none from origin because of their DRM)

#523 - anonymous (03/10/2013) [-]
drm has never inconvenienced me

maybe you're all entitled little shits?
User avatar #541 - billybong (03/11/2013) [-]
Sounds like youve never tried to log into origin or games for windows live or played any recent blizzard game
User avatar #56 - taintedangel (03/10/2013) [-]
Also add to the fact that steam sells games for very cheap. Being inexpensive is the biggest factor to anti-piracy.

"Oh, this really cool game that's been out for a year or two that I didn't get to play yet in now only $15? Sweet."
#45 - winglit (03/10/2013) [-]
Look what im saying is that piracy isnt justified simply because a game has shitty DRM, THAT SAID i wouldnt buy a game with DRM, its like saying its robinhood syndrome, no matter how you slice it your taking something not yours, if you dont like what they do dont buy it, simple as that, but piracy no matter the case isnt something you brag about doing, if its your guilty pleasure fine, but dont try and pretend its helpful to the industry
User avatar #53 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
Well, with your argument seemingly over, I just wanna toss this little thing in
EA don't deserve money. They are a shit company, with shit policies.
So, pirate as many EA games as possible until they finally take the lesson to heart and stop being fucksticks, or they go bankrupt. Win win.
#525 - anonymous (03/10/2013) [-]
Yea, that's done plenty to stop them and reduces the amount of DRM, doesn't it? Have you even been paying attention to history?
User avatar #59 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
for EA specifically, I agree.... I don't even need to explain why. we all know
User avatar #47 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
so... sounds like EA's top priority should be working DRM if they want to sell shit

till then, if their DRM doesn't work, neither will my wallet...

(also...didn't you say you were going to bed an hour ago to photonmik? tsk tsk)
User avatar #64 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
Not me, silly
User avatar #67 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
well the "going to bed" comment was to winglit's comment since it was #47 to comment #45 (or did I dun goof'd?) :P
User avatar #71 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
Honestly, I don't think I've even been on for an hour
#58 - winglit (03/10/2013) [-]
I shower before bed, and plan to go to sleep in just a moment but figured id take a look, and yeah EA is a shit company, which is why i dont buy their games, but pirating doesnt send the right kind of message thats what im trying to get across but everyone is so caught up in feeling like robinhood they immediately jump to defend the action of piracy when its nothing grander than not wanting to pay for something, you arent trying to send a message by pirating, you just dont want to pay for something, simple as that... unless of course your supplying these pirated games to orphans robinhood style in which case fine continue
User avatar #74 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
I was only joshing about the sleep thing :P (enjoy it whenever you get there)

But try to think about it from someone else's point of view who does still want to enjoy the game.

There isn't really any way other than piracy that you can say "I don't like something about you (or your company) so I won't pay for the product, but the product is still desirable"

You could write a letter I guess... saying you won't buy the game... Sif EA will care care

If EA can recognize that their games can be enjoyable, desirable, and playable and if they are all of those, people will pay what the product is worth. That's how the game industry existed before DRM and that's what the community wants again.

We don't mind expansions, that are about 1/2 the price of the original game and give about 50% more content, but we hate DLC that costs 5-10% of the original price that simply adds features taken out of the original release. (not all DLC is like this, but too much is)

Not all pirates are just cheapskates, some of us just don't like being duped.

I own legit copies of, the original sims, original C&C series (everything before RA3), Wolf 3d, all of the Quakes and Dooms. Every single one of them could have been pirated easily at the time but wasn't (because you only needed an original copy, a keygen and a nocd to crack those games). They were all paid for at the time of release, not even on sale...I haven't mentioned any games I picked up cheap after their release (like Unreal Tournement, or either of the Soldier of fortunes)
User avatar #70 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
I don't like pirating.
Too risky for my taste.
But if you have to, there's no better company to do it from than EA
#27 - photonmik (03/10/2013) [-]
Yes, I'm the child. Because I didn't start personal attacks.

Your opinion is irrelevant to the world.
#11 - Ah, yah. It was ment as a joke, but people don't get jokes on …  [+] (5 new replies) 03/09/2013 on photonmik's profile 0
User avatar #12 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
yeah, this place is uptight...
#13 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Yeah.. Like it's sewn together..
User avatar #14 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
someone needs to tear it apart
#15 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Boomstick it.
User avatar #16 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
aww yeah
#9 - Maybe you had a blackout?  [+] (7 new replies) 03/09/2013 on photonmik's profile 0
User avatar #10 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
nah, I remember now. I saw you say you were a fighter pilot in a comment on frontpage :3
#11 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Ah, yah. It was ment as a joke, but people don't get jokes on this site..
User avatar #12 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
yeah, this place is uptight...
#13 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Yeah.. Like it's sewn together..
User avatar #14 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
someone needs to tear it apart
#15 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Boomstick it.
User avatar #16 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
aww yeah
#7 - I'm ok. You? Also, do I know you?  [+] (9 new replies) 03/09/2013 on photonmik's profile 0
User avatar #8 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
no, you don't know me :3
in fact, I don't remember commenting here...
#9 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Maybe you had a blackout?
User avatar #10 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
nah, I remember now. I saw you say you were a fighter pilot in a comment on frontpage :3
#11 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Ah, yah. It was ment as a joke, but people don't get jokes on this site..
User avatar #12 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
yeah, this place is uptight...
#13 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Yeah.. Like it's sewn together..
User avatar #14 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
someone needs to tear it apart
#15 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Boomstick it.
User avatar #16 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
aww yeah
#5 - Hello?  [+] (11 new replies) 03/09/2013 on photonmik's profile 0
User avatar #6 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
how are you?
#7 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
I'm ok.

You?

Also, do I know you?
User avatar #8 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
no, you don't know me :3
in fact, I don't remember commenting here...
#9 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Maybe you had a blackout?
User avatar #10 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
nah, I remember now. I saw you say you were a fighter pilot in a comment on frontpage :3
#11 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Ah, yah. It was ment as a joke, but people don't get jokes on this site..
User avatar #12 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
yeah, this place is uptight...
#13 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Yeah.. Like it's sewn together..
User avatar #14 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
someone needs to tear it apart
#15 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Boomstick it.
User avatar #16 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
aww yeah
#7 - Get off your horse. My experience is that "smal…  [+] (27 new replies) 03/09/2013 on If EA Games Sold Pizza... +20
#11 - winglit (03/09/2013) [-]
You still dont get it, Pirates are the reason they use to justify things like DRM and again Piracy isnt cool, its just another "im special so i deserve everything without working" stupid feeling thats infected people these days, your not special, you dont deserve it just because mommy called you special, either pay for it, or dont play it, ya know... the fair way of life? you dont expect to watch TV without paying for Cable why do you justify free gaming?
User avatar #60 - Maroon (03/10/2013) [-]
I basically use pirating to test out games. Games I like, I will buy like Saints Row 3 and Fallout 3 (I actually bought it 2 times, for console and PC). Other games, I will play for 20 minutes and think "holy fucking shit, I'm so glad I didn't waste 60 dollars on this bullshit". That's pretty much why I've stopped pre-ordering games. Learned that fucking lesson with War-Z, it looked so promising I ordered the super-special-whatever pack and it ended up being a buggy, hacker filled nightmare and the devs just shit on all the users.
#12 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Oh I get it, you have no idea. And people like you accept DRM like you accept governing sticks up your ass..
#14 - winglit (03/09/2013) [-]
Except i hate DRM and blame pirates (and rightfully so) for allowing big corporations to justify always on DRM and the like to stop piracy... you really think that i like being stuck online in games? are you fucking retarded? did you even READ my comments? i hate DRM and I hate piracy, because its damaging to the industry i love so much, IM a GAMER not some spoiled brat get it? got it? GOOD! :D
#15 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Then you should blame the corps.

I don't read your stupid shit, no..

Also, you know that the corporations are ruining the industry you love... "Gamer"
#16 - winglit (03/09/2013) [-]
I blame both sides, Pirates for being stupid little shits who justify their actions because "the corporation is bad wah ill pirate thatll show em" and the corporations for thinking "well always on DRM then thatll stop the pirates!" its similar to the war on terror, our government does stupid shit in order to beat the terrorists and the terrorists think that hurting the Innocent will show em, in the end the only ones really hurt are the ones not involved in the first place, with gaming DRM becoming more strict in order to fight a battle against useless self centered Twats, oh and heres an idea, if you dont like a corporations business model, DONT BUY FROM THEM, dont play the fucking game either, if you pirate it that just tells them "i like your game but i also dont like paying for things" it doesnt send any kind of message, if you want the industry to change, dont buy from the people you dont like, AND DONT PIRATE, you greedy motherfucker, i dont purchase EA games, Or games from Sega, and guess what? i dont play them either, because i dont want them to feel like they can pull this shit, try not being such a spoiled kid ok? or watch the gaming industry burn.
User avatar #63 - Maroon (03/10/2013) [-]
He's right in one thing though, it is the corps ruining games. Instead of focusing on making good material that people will pay for and enjoy, they are busy coming up with ways to extort as much money as possible from a single game and at the same time trying to push out as many games as possible so they skimp on quality and heap on the bullshit.
#19 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
You have no idea what you are talking about.
A few people not buying their stuff won't change anything.
Piracy also forwards progress, but I guess you don't know anything about that at all.
Since all you are capable of doing is trying to take shots at me, even though I don't really care about your opinion. If you feel you are such a saint. Good for you.

I'm not even spoiled.
I work 9-10 hours a day Mon-Fri. Probably 100% more than you.

#20 - winglit (03/09/2013) [-]
I have a full time job actually, and you really think that being entitled and pirating games from companies makes a difference? and maybe me not buying a game wont make a difference, but at the very least i stand up for what i think is right, you really feel like pirating shows them anything? and as for you not caring you obviously do as you keep replying, im defending what i feel is right so again im happy to see all the pirates who are rushing to defend themselves, your not some hero to the industry, your a little kid taking things and making excuses
#21 - photonmik (03/10/2013) [-]
So do I, freedom of information. I have integrity enough to buy games I enjoy. When Ubisoft lifted their sick DRM of 2070, I bought it.
#23 - winglit (03/10/2013) [-]
If you pirate games you dont tell a company theyre being dicks, you simply show them your a pirate, if you purchase the game later down the line that doesnt make it ok, you played it already, the reason games go down in price is because your paying for the privilege of playing early, and just buying some of the games you pirate doesnt make it alright, you're a child, nothing more nothing less, do as you please but just remember, if you dont pay, then what the fuck gives you the right to play? youre not special by birthright, and just because you have a job doesn't mean youre responsible and it doesnt make piracy ok, say what you will but you've proven my point, you're so desperate to defend your piracy. youre a self centered little kid, you dont know that the universe doesn't revolve around you because mama said it did... bye kid, hope one day you realize that piracy isnt helpful to the industry, its just a child justifying childish things to himself, heres hoping people stop this stupid shit and are more responsible with their gaming, but thats a dream i fear will die in time, best of luck to you, im going to bed.
User avatar #42 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
Piracy kills developers. This is a fact that cannot be changed, no matter how you look at it.

BUT

If DRM prevents you (a paying customer) from playing the game, then it shouldn't be there in the first place.

But if the pirated game actually works better than the one with the included DRM, then has the dev really earned their money? someone else needed to spend their own time to fix it to make the game playable

DRM can be good, Take steam for Example. I like their DRM, anti cheat, anti Piracy, you can redownload your games at any time, and most you can play offline once you play the game and authenticate online.

That's good DRM in my opinion, it works. Sure hackers can get around it these days, but because of it's benefits, you are very much encouraged to buy these steam games and you get many benefits from doing so... particularly valve's games.


that being said....I'm not saint, I'll pirate some games, but I've also got 204 games attached to my steam account as well as plenty of other legal games (none from origin because of their DRM)

#523 - anonymous (03/10/2013) [-]
drm has never inconvenienced me

maybe you're all entitled little shits?
User avatar #541 - billybong (03/11/2013) [-]
Sounds like youve never tried to log into origin or games for windows live or played any recent blizzard game
User avatar #56 - taintedangel (03/10/2013) [-]
Also add to the fact that steam sells games for very cheap. Being inexpensive is the biggest factor to anti-piracy.

"Oh, this really cool game that's been out for a year or two that I didn't get to play yet in now only $15? Sweet."
#45 - winglit (03/10/2013) [-]
Look what im saying is that piracy isnt justified simply because a game has shitty DRM, THAT SAID i wouldnt buy a game with DRM, its like saying its robinhood syndrome, no matter how you slice it your taking something not yours, if you dont like what they do dont buy it, simple as that, but piracy no matter the case isnt something you brag about doing, if its your guilty pleasure fine, but dont try and pretend its helpful to the industry
User avatar #53 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
Well, with your argument seemingly over, I just wanna toss this little thing in
EA don't deserve money. They are a shit company, with shit policies.
So, pirate as many EA games as possible until they finally take the lesson to heart and stop being fucksticks, or they go bankrupt. Win win.
#525 - anonymous (03/10/2013) [-]
Yea, that's done plenty to stop them and reduces the amount of DRM, doesn't it? Have you even been paying attention to history?
User avatar #59 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
for EA specifically, I agree.... I don't even need to explain why. we all know
User avatar #47 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
so... sounds like EA's top priority should be working DRM if they want to sell shit

till then, if their DRM doesn't work, neither will my wallet...

(also...didn't you say you were going to bed an hour ago to photonmik? tsk tsk)
User avatar #64 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
Not me, silly
User avatar #67 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
well the "going to bed" comment was to winglit's comment since it was #47 to comment #45 (or did I dun goof'd?) :P
User avatar #71 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
Honestly, I don't think I've even been on for an hour
#58 - winglit (03/10/2013) [-]
I shower before bed, and plan to go to sleep in just a moment but figured id take a look, and yeah EA is a shit company, which is why i dont buy their games, but pirating doesnt send the right kind of message thats what im trying to get across but everyone is so caught up in feeling like robinhood they immediately jump to defend the action of piracy when its nothing grander than not wanting to pay for something, you arent trying to send a message by pirating, you just dont want to pay for something, simple as that... unless of course your supplying these pirated games to orphans robinhood style in which case fine continue
User avatar #74 - billybong (03/10/2013) [-]
I was only joshing about the sleep thing :P (enjoy it whenever you get there)

But try to think about it from someone else's point of view who does still want to enjoy the game.

There isn't really any way other than piracy that you can say "I don't like something about you (or your company) so I won't pay for the product, but the product is still desirable"

You could write a letter I guess... saying you won't buy the game... Sif EA will care care

If EA can recognize that their games can be enjoyable, desirable, and playable and if they are all of those, people will pay what the product is worth. That's how the game industry existed before DRM and that's what the community wants again.

We don't mind expansions, that are about 1/2 the price of the original game and give about 50% more content, but we hate DLC that costs 5-10% of the original price that simply adds features taken out of the original release. (not all DLC is like this, but too much is)

Not all pirates are just cheapskates, some of us just don't like being duped.

I own legit copies of, the original sims, original C&C series (everything before RA3), Wolf 3d, all of the Quakes and Dooms. Every single one of them could have been pirated easily at the time but wasn't (because you only needed an original copy, a keygen and a nocd to crack those games). They were all paid for at the time of release, not even on sale...I haven't mentioned any games I picked up cheap after their release (like Unreal Tournement, or either of the Soldier of fortunes)
User avatar #70 - weinerdick (03/10/2013) [-]
I don't like pirating.
Too risky for my taste.
But if you have to, there's no better company to do it from than EA
#27 - photonmik (03/10/2013) [-]
Yes, I'm the child. Because I didn't start personal attacks.

Your opinion is irrelevant to the world.
#2 - Goodie.  [+] (13 new replies) 03/09/2013 on photonmik's profile 0
User avatar #3 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
hi <3
#5 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Hello?
User avatar #6 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
how are you?
#7 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
I'm ok.

You?

Also, do I know you?
User avatar #8 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
no, you don't know me :3
in fact, I don't remember commenting here...
#9 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Maybe you had a blackout?
User avatar #10 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
nah, I remember now. I saw you say you were a fighter pilot in a comment on frontpage :3
#11 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Ah, yah. It was ment as a joke, but people don't get jokes on this site..
User avatar #12 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
yeah, this place is uptight...
#13 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Yeah.. Like it's sewn together..
User avatar #14 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
someone needs to tear it apart
#15 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Boomstick it.
User avatar #16 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
aww yeah
#147 - I was a bomber pilot during WW2, it happened.. 03/02/2013 on Allies be trollin' -1
#191 - Colonialism is the problem you say? How about their &…  [+] (2 new replies) 02/17/2013 on Title -1
#199 - anonymous (02/17/2013) [-]
FYI Asian have the power to change, and it's doing it. China and India are the most powerfull productive country right now and they will soon kickour asses. The "Attitude" you are talking about is a cultural issue that comes form theyr poorness, that comes from history. you cant understand the present without history.
#201 - anonymous (02/17/2013) [-]
asia*
#180 - Irrelevant. FYI they had white slaves, used their own…  [+] (4 new replies) 02/17/2013 on Title -1
#189 - anonymous (02/17/2013) [-]
FYI Slavery and Colonialism are 2 different problems ,and they where historically relevant in 2 different period. Turkish empire's man of power used salves but only for high level duty (like intellectuals, writers, scientistor even bodyguard) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamluk
south saharian country really used slave in the worst meaning but that's not the point.

i'm not talking about how they apply human right i'm talking about economical factor that let us be fat consumers while there is still people that have to walk4 hours a day because they dont have water. i mean, none of us fat western consumer is directly guilt for that, but our richness comes from theyr misery, we stopped to buy slavesfrom them and then the real colonialism started, european reign needed to sell the shit they where uslessly producing after the second industrial revolution, so (see berlin congress 1884) they decided to conquest african country.

tl;dr just study some fuckin history!
#191 - photonmik (02/17/2013) [-]
Colonialism is the problem you say?

How about their "I only want to be given stuff" attitude, they decide to live in filth or not. History isn't applicable to modern day africa/asia.

They have the power to change, they are just imbeciles.

Like you, who apparently "studies" history.

tl;dr Africans and asians have the power to change, but won't do anything.
#199 - anonymous (02/17/2013) [-]
FYI Asian have the power to change, and it's doing it. China and India are the most powerfull productive country right now and they will soon kickour asses. The "Attitude" you are talking about is a cultural issue that comes form theyr poorness, that comes from history. you cant understand the present without history.
#201 - anonymous (02/17/2013) [-]
asia*
#1309 - I don't get the feel. Good luck though.. 02/14/2013 on My feels story +1
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User avatar #1 - twi (03/02/2013) [-]
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#2 to #1 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Goodie.
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hi <3
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Hello?
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how are you?
#7 to #6 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
I'm ok.

You?

Also, do I know you?
User avatar #8 to #7 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
no, you don't know me :3
in fact, I don't remember commenting here...
#9 to #8 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Maybe you had a blackout?
User avatar #10 to #9 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
nah, I remember now. I saw you say you were a fighter pilot in a comment on frontpage :3
#11 to #10 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Ah, yah. It was ment as a joke, but people don't get jokes on this site..
User avatar #12 to #11 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
yeah, this place is uptight...
#13 to #12 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Yeah.. Like it's sewn together..
User avatar #14 to #13 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
someone needs to tear it apart
#15 to #14 - photonmik (03/09/2013) [-]
Boomstick it.
User avatar #16 to #15 - twi (03/09/2013) [-]
aww yeah
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