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#102553 - patrizioiii (03/05/2014) [-]
No, brostep is really distinct from dubstep. They literally sound sonicly different. Dubstep is a generally chilled-out genre, is pretty consistent in terms of structure.
Recent "dubstep" however is pretty trashy, hence the distinction. There's no consistent melody, there's no significant build-ups. It's music literally made for 12 year old children with ADHD who can't pay attention for more than 10 seconds. It's no longer about a specific style, a specific aesthetic, it's just 4 minutes of "LOOK HOW COOL MY SOUNDS ARE". Brostep tracks are generally shorter because their mainstay is exactly that factor, and over 4 minutes of absolutely no sustenance and shitty meathead beats gets old.
#102557 - foxes (03/05/2014) [-]
If I play jazz with a saxophone it's jazz. If I play jazz with a heavily distorted guitar it's jazz. If I play jazz by farting rhythmically, it's jazz. Whether it's a chill synth or a heavy synth is not a genre-deciding factor.
That's a load of bullshit. You're generalizing an entire style based on the watered down niche shit that rode upon a popular style. You can't honestly say that even the overused shit doesn't have significant build-ups, that's the generic part. The whole 40 seconds of random shit leading up to dirty bass synth is what everybody hates.
Plus, it's a distinction not made by the artists themselves. This goes alo0ng with generally similar stylistic origins.
Honestly, this is the same kind of musical douche-baggary that created the whole "IDM" distinction.
#102561 - patrizioiii (03/05/2014) [-]
Oh yeah, build-ups are commonplace EVERYWHERE in music, even in classical. Build-ups are generally a good thing and it takes a talented musician to execute one properly. Brostep "musicians" (read: knob with a DAW) aren't very good at making one or music in general, hence the bastardized build-ups you hear on most brostep.
#102560 - patrizioiii (03/05/2014) [-]
Honestly, I really don't see why you have a problem with people separating music into narrowed-down genres. Some people like jazz with a saxophone, but they might dislike jazz with a saxophone and a distorted guitar and vise versa. Defining these musical styles with two separate labels allows the listener to locate/identify the music that he/she likes specifically.
If you mean these are differences so minor that they don't deserve a different genre/subgenre, sure, I can see where you're coming from. But the difference between brostep and dubstep is that the two sound absolutely nothing alike. I'd call brostep electro house, really terrible electro house at that, before I would classify it as dubstep.
And the only reason people say "IDM" is so that they don't have to say "Yeah, I'm into breakbeat, hardcore techno, drill n'bass, experimental etc". No one who uses the term thinks their music is "smarter", although it's significantly less retarded compared to shit like gabber.
#102563 - foxes (03/05/2014) [-]
My problem is that it's creating too many genres
With jazz, you get a new genre with a stylistic overhaul. Deciding to not have a header-solo-header created a genre, but deciding to play a harp didn't. That's the correct method IMO.
I wouldn't mind making some umbrella term for all that shit, maybe just generalize it as experimental EDM or something that doesn't, by definition, say that your music is more intelligent. You can't deny that "Intelligent Dance Music" is asserting one's musical "intelligence" as greater than that of people listening to other EDM.
And this is slightly unrelated, but I have noticed some gabber/rave influence in a few breakcore artists, which is hardly retarded shit.
Lastly, I forgot this in my last comment, but you seem too eager to demean people for listening to brostep. I wouldn't personally consider myself a 12 y/o with ADHD, but I guess that since you're saying it, it must be right.
#102567 - patrizioiii (03/05/2014) [-]
IDM is an umbrella term. Again, no one verbally expresses the fact it's "more intelligent". But, it's pretty much an objective (oh no there's that scary word) fact that most IDM is structurally advanced and requires a more active/careful listener to appreciate in comparison to most modern-day EDM.
Listening to modern EDM (brostep, electro house, trap) requires very little from it's listener, as it's just 4 minutes of "cool sounds" being recycled with very little structure or design until the track sort of just, ends. If you don't believe me or doubt me, just look at the Monstercat label. It's like they pick music that falls exactly into that definition.
#102569 - foxes (03/05/2014) [-]
The fact that people say they listen to IDM is verbally expressing the fact that it's "more intelligent."
I don't give a fuck if your music is played exclusively in 57/32 and hanging upside down, if you're saying that your music is more intelligent, I will always see you as a pretentious dick, although I will admit that it isn't completely undeserved. It's 1000x better than the kind of person that says that their particular string of dadrock artists is the only "real" music without knowing jack shit about music and overemphasizing lyricism.
#102570 - patrizioiii (03/05/2014) [-]
So you're saying one style of music can't be more intelligent than another? Bach is on the same level of intelligence in terms of objective construct as Ke$ha? Again, for the third time, IDM is just an umbrella term to describe several musical styles that IDM typically encompasses. To be honest, you'd sound more like an asshole if you specifically said "I like breakbeat, breakcore, 90s dungeon synth, experimental electronic, etc" rather than if you said "I like IDM"
#102571 - foxes (03/05/2014) [-]
Part of our disagreement is that I don't believe on an objective scale for intelligence
There are a hell of a lot of adjectives that you can use, but intelligence is not an acceptable one imo. Bach's music was more complex, required more effort, etc.
And I always just say that I listen to electronic music if I'm talking about that shit. If the person knows about EDM and it's subgenres, they're going to ask anyways, and then it's completely acceptable to list off your breakbeat, drill'n'bass, post-lasagnacore, etc.
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