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#38719 - Good video.  [+] (2 replies) 08/06/2013 on Religion Board +2
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#38846 - draezeth (08/08/2013) [-]
He miscounted. Jesus has three enemies, not two: Sin, Religion and the World. The World is everything of man that is not of God.

Sin tends to be blatant, the World tends to be subtle.
Sin is ugly, the World is attractive.
Sin attempts to corrupt you, the World attempts to usurp you.
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#38725 - darkrighteosnight (08/06/2013) [-]
Dang. That was awesome.
#6 - Dude, no, totally. You don't sound raw either you just like yo…  [+] (1 reply) 08/06/2013 on TLDR, in description. 0
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#7 - Rezzur (08/06/2013) [-]
That makes a bit more sense.

Nothing personal, but even with rational people I tend to avoid those conversations. I'm not much for words so I have a tendency to sound pretty offensive on sensitive subjects, even though I rarely mean to be, hence they seldom end well.
#38644 - We should be friends dude.  [+] (1 reply) 08/06/2013 on Religion Board +1
#38646 - draezeth (08/06/2013) [-]
Why not?
#38643 - The person who talks the most about hell in the whole of the b…  [+] (2 replies) 08/06/2013 on Religion Board +2
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#38692 - thebritishguy (08/06/2013) [-]
If our sins must be paid for, then God is not forgiving, it's as if an abusive father got really angry and wanted to beat his wife (humanity) but he can't so he beats up his son instead (Jesus), now you're telling me that someone needed to be punished? no they didn't, God could have just calmed down, forgiven us and definitely shouldn't have beaten up an innocent person, it would have the same effect anyway.
1. God is pissed off at everyone so he creates hell so that everyone can be burnt for eternity, he doesn't want anyone to go in this hell pit which he created and is going to send people so he sends his son on a suicide mission in which he would be tortured, then he can forgive a select few who ask for forgiveness.
2. God could have not created any hell, not tortured his son and then just forgiven people who asked for it and then those people can go to heaven.

Both of these solutions lead to the same effect, we are forgiven if we ask for it and if God is omnipotent then both of these solutions are possible. Yet the second one would mean that millions of people wouldn't be tortured and burnt and Jesus wouldn't be tortured either.

When I have a child I will not create a torture mechanism and then wait until he does something naughty and then when he says "sorry" I punch a baby in the stomach and then say "it's ok the baby has paid for your crime." it's an immoral concept, it's quite literally "scapegoating"

It's not life or death it is "life of bliss or hell" and God has foreseen this and planned this from the beginning as he is omniscient, his grand plan was to lead to a situation where you are essentially poisoned at birth and then if you worship the invisible celestial dictator you will be given the antidote, the majority of humans will be born into the wrong culture so they don't have a chance and will be tortured for something which they had no control of at all and they did not even know existed.
#38712 - oddboyaj (08/06/2013) [-]
Dude, you make some solid points. I'll do some research and get back to you alright?
#3 - When I say keep the focus on Jesus, I mean look to Jesus. What…  [+] (4 replies) 08/06/2013 on TLDR, in description. 0
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#5 - Rezzur (08/06/2013) [-]
Other than that I can agree with most everything there, just that one bit kind of rubbed against the grain of the rest to me.
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#4 - Rezzur (08/06/2013) [-]
My point was essentially that Christians should keep their focus on Jesus, Jews go straight to the source, Muslims can focus on Allah or Muhammed or whatever they do (I don't know much about Islam), and each other religion can keep their focus on whatever respective deity their religion is based around. As an atheist I don't plan to put focus on any deity or prophet. My goal is pretty simple, just be a decent human being. I don't need a book or some grand creator to teach me how to do that, common sense is more than enough.

Basically I'm saying it probably wasn't the most logical thing for you to suggest that someone who doesn't believe in a god should follow yours.

If this sounds a little raw it wasn't my intention. I've been dealing with preachy bastards in my family, who apparently think I'm the devil, for the last week or so and my "be nice" tank is running pretty low.
#6 - oddboyaj (08/06/2013) [-]
Dude, no, totally. You don't sound raw either you just like you're voicing your opinion on the matter. I see more people defending the gospel being much worse.

To what you said, of course, if you're not a Christian, not interested, don't care for it, then you wouldn't be looking to Jesus. It is my belief though as a Christian that Jesus Christ is God become a man. Now if I found anyone who was like "I'm just not sure what to do, what about this, these, those" well my answer is ultimately "What about Jesus? What's Jesus think about this?" in a cheesy sense, "What would Jesus do".

If you don't believe in Jesus as God, I don't know that you'd care much to do that. Maybe you would would just for shiggles, but I see your point. I meant more so the Christian mindset in talking to people, and in their own lives, should be Christ centered, because we believe Christ, totally perfect, totally God, and totally human. A lot of times though (I fall into this as well) we get far too centered in on details and miss the big picture.

Also if you ever wanna talk about why I believe Jesus is God, etc, I'm up for that too.
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#7 - Rezzur (08/06/2013) [-]
That makes a bit more sense.

Nothing personal, but even with rational people I tend to avoid those conversations. I'm not much for words so I have a tendency to sound pretty offensive on sensitive subjects, even though I rarely mean to be, hence they seldom end well.
#38612 - I browse on FJ, ended up writing thing from stuff I was seeing…  [+] (1 reply) 08/06/2013 on Religion Board +4
#38617 - draezeth (08/06/2013) [-]
YES YES! I would thumb you more, but I can't. This is just...

#39 - I'm sorry, but where is this verse condoning rape from?  [+] (22 replies) 08/05/2013 on Up until it became a web of... 0
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#55 - feelythefeel (08/06/2013) [-]
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city.
-Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB

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#108 - oddboyaj (08/06/2013) [-]
This is my quick answer, from what I'm getting this is God telling the people of Jerusalem of something devastating that will happen. He's not condoning the act of rape he's saying how horrible this is going to be. He even gives a picture of Jesus in this war that he goes on to speak of. Rape is a sin, that's shouldn't get mixed up though. God is just giving a picture of something horrible, I'm not certain but you may be able to look at it as warning. In any case here's a good commentary on the subject if you're interested,

but as far as suffering goes, there is no easy answer to it. I have one that I like though, it's something Tim Keller said once, and I'm sure many others. Christianity has something a lot of other religions do not, in that we have a God who came down as a servant, humbling himself, suffering like us, walking as we do, being tempted as we are, getting stressed out like we do, weeping like we do. We do not know why God allows suffering to happen, BUT we do know it is not from lack of care because of God's suffering. Jesus Christ can sympathize with use, so there is no lack of care. We just don't know why.
#84 - oddboyaj (08/06/2013) [-]
Hey, man. I'm gonna do some research and get back to you on all of that okay? Someone did say something helpful, but brashly. That being, always use context in reading the bible, even in Genesis "Who is this being written for, why, etc, what's the situation".
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#64 - Bad Man (08/06/2013) [-]
Did you somehow miss the blatant sense of punishment mentioned in that verse? That's far from condoning it.
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#67 - feelythefeel (08/06/2013) [-]
I suppose I did.
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#68 - feelythefeel (08/06/2013) [-]
Mostly because I still can't see it.
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#71 - Bad Man (08/06/2013) [-]
Protip: next time you try to use something in an argument, make sure you know its context. This is describing one of many times when God condoned the razing of Jerusalem for all the shit they pull, namely adopting false gods, adultery, child sacrifices, etc.
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#73 - feelythefeel (08/06/2013) [-]
As I said below, I think God telling his followers to rape people is condoning of rape regardless of context.
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#94 - Bad Man (08/06/2013) [-]
He didn't tell his followers to rape anyone, he was outlining a law to punish rapists and to allow women to be provided for, otherwise they would've faced an even harder life in the face of society.
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#95 - feelythefeel (08/06/2013) [-]
I don't see that.
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#105 - Bad Man (08/06/2013) [-]
-_- You don't see a lot of things...
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#58 - timmywankenobi (08/06/2013) [-]
That only applies to jeruslam plus that already happened several thousand years ago mate.
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#61 - feelythefeel (08/06/2013) [-]
If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
-Deuteronomy 22:28-29

Also, I think God telling his followers to rape people is condoning of rape regardless of context.
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#62 - timmywankenobi (08/06/2013) [-]
yep thats jewish law alright you can rape but then you have to take care of her for the rest of your life . plus that old testament besides the ten commandments that whole book is gay.
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#63 - feelythefeel (08/06/2013) [-]
I don't understand what you're trying to say.
-Me 90:01-69
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#65 - timmywankenobi (08/06/2013) [-]
I'm saying it says you can rape but then you have to take care of the woman for the rest of your life as a reminder and punishment. also the old testament says a lot of crazy shit mate.
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#69 - feelythefeel (08/06/2013) [-]
I wouldn't consider getting married getting married a punishment, especially if I lived back in the biblical time and location.
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#70 - timmywankenobi (08/06/2013) [-]
but wouldn't she nag you about how you raped her for like ever ?
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#76 - feelythefeel (08/06/2013) [-]
It wouldn't matter nearly as much back then.
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#83 - timmywankenobi (08/06/2013) [-]
fair enough .you know the old testament alo says you should kill or castrate all non jews/choosen people of god too. we don't followm that advice either.
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#87 - feelythefeel (08/06/2013) [-]
Whether or not it's taken into consideration still doesn't change that it's supposedly "God's will".
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#90 - timmywankenobi (08/06/2013) [-]
true enough.

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