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#163 - oceanmist (12/09/2013) [-]
I wasn't even talking about guns laws, just commenting that a UK gun liscense still very much restricts what you can buy. But since you brought it up, you can't really compare two different countries because there are tons of other factors, the US has had far more murders than England even before the gun laws were placed after WWII. What I would like to know, is why did the amount of murders, rapes, and violent crime increase after gun control was instituted? Since then England has passed the US in forcible rape, Assault, and drug use. As well, the number of homicides in the US has been decreasing, while it is still increasing in England.
#170 - oceanmist (12/09/2013) [-]
Here are a few easy to understand ones
I've got more if you want them
#118 - snowshark (12/09/2013) [-]
So... we don't get to play around with big death-dealing machines and carry deadly weapons with us wherever we go but we can still keep a simple one around the house so long as we are properly licensed to own one.
Honestly I don't see the downside here. I suppose it may be fun going deaf whilst unloading large sums of money at targets for the heck of it but outside of shooting clay pigeons and burglars there really aren't any legal reasons to own a powerful firearm.
#127 - snowshark (12/09/2013) [-]
I didn't say there's no reason 'not' to own them. Nor do I believe the many should be penalised for the few nor do I believe there will ever be a solution to guns in the US given how deeply they have permeated the culture.
However whilst it is difficult to own a supercar it is incredibly easy to own a gun in the US. Criminals do not use supercars to harm the lives of others for a number of reasons but they do use guns and they hurt an awful lot of people. In the US the gun culture is such that many people believe guns to be a right, when really they should be a privilege. People are not owed guns, they should be able to own them should they display the right conditions (something that the US is extremely lax on, especially in the southern states.)
At the end of the day the fact of the matter is that yes, in the US you can own guns and it is fun to do so. However you can own guns in the UK as well, only in a far more restricted manner. UK make do with what we have and are perfectly happy with our gun-safety situation compared to that of the far more liberal US. In the US you can own a vast array of weaponry whereas in the UK most who own guns make-do with a shotgun or two.
Though I tend to avoid generalisations it seems to fall right back into the same old difference between the US and the UK:
In the US things tend to be bigger, louder, more ambitious whereas in the UK we tend to prefer the little things, the quiet moments, and the subtle joys. Yes, this is a massive generalisation of two very diverse cultures but in this case it seems that for the most part the UK is fine with having better but less and the US is happy having worse but more.
#164 - oceanmist (12/09/2013) [-]
But cars do harm people every day. In the US at least, more people are killed by cars than guns. But we don't ban supercars because of it. More children under 10 are killed by pools than guns, but we don't restrict pools either. My point is, just because a few people can't handle the responsibility, shouldn't mean nobody gets it.
#194 - snowshark (12/09/2013) [-]
1: I said supercars, not cars. The majority of fatalities on the road come from regular cars that cost less than £100,000. The majority of those are also accidents whereas the majority of shootings are intentional. What is more, cars serve a primary purpose outside of hurting people (transportation) whereas for firearms the primary purpose is hurting people.
Pools are built for people to swim in, not for you to drown people in, To bring up that argument is invalid because unlike the pool it doesn't hold water. However I said:
"I didn't say there's no reason 'not' to own them. Nor do I believe the many should be penalised for the few nor do I believe there will ever be a solution to guns in the US given how deeply they have permeated the culture."
My argument isn't that guns are bad, my argument is that guns do not need to be as unregulated as they are in the US in the UK. We have what we have and it works for us and is far healthier for our general population. Introducing gun laws would only leave the criminals with guns and the citizens without guns, a problem only made as big as it is because guns were so unregulated in the first place.
I also said exactly what your point was:
"People are not owed guns, they should be able to own them should they display the right conditions" that the majority shouldn't be punished for the minority. However it includes the caveat that the majority prove they are not the minority beforehand.
#155 - dsrtpnk (12/09/2013) [-]
US is next door to "Los Zetas and friends" plus our
Other than that, I agree with your comment.
#197 - snowshark (12/09/2013) [-]
I readily acknowledge the differing circumstances. You didn't mention the dangerous wildlife up north which is another big factor to requiring firearms for protection around the house and general area.
You also need to keep in mind that whilst Mexico is an incredibly awful county at the moment it still pales in comparison to the violence presented by your northern cousins when they get poor hockey results.
And at least you've got angry afro-niggers. We've got explosive sand-niggers over here. Naw, I jest. They're all right... their music sucks balls though. *shrug* Culture.
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#52 - oceanmist (12/05/2013) [-]
He ate all my motherfuckin' cookies
I left on the plate
Then he went to the fridge
And he ate, and he ate, and that fat motherfucka ate
And when he was done
When the cupboard was bare
He packed his shut up and got outta there
"Good night Doggy Dogg!" he said from the sky
"Merry Christmas to all you motherfuckers
And to all a good high"
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