Actually, you pretty much do become able to live by yourself if you live in that well-managed country.
It's pretty much just get check, send half of it in for rent, spend a quarter on food, spend the rest at your leisure. What's not to be capable of?
And since life is basically just entertaining yourself until you die, and you have Steam with games for even the slowest excuse for a computer, and you have money (if you live in said well-managed country), why kill yourself?

This, however, was never about becoming a well adjusted person, it was about not killing yourself.

It was never about living well either.

South Korea and Japan, especially Japan, have a massive gap between the poor and the rich, meaning that unless you work yourself half to death all day every day, you'll probably never make the jump. It's called being burned out.
Sweden has a suicide rate which is below the OECD average, so I don't know where you're getting that from.
Finland spends very little on treatment of mental illnesses.

It's, again, not about how to become a functioning member of society, it's about how to have a little joy in an otherwise seeming joyless life.

Here's a secret though: Nobody is perfectly happy with their lives, nobody is, as you call it, 'competent', and everybody have issues. You said it yourself: You're not free from bad things happening to you. Shit happens. Most people get the fuck over it, other people don't.

Your claim, however, that you cannot experience personal growth if you live in a rich country is unsubstantiated by any sort of evidence, and you never answered my question: How can you be unable to live by yourself (granted that you do not have physical handicaps or lack the mental capacity to realise what money is) - unable as in not able to, not as in unwilling to or as in not doing so with ease, but as in literally unable to?

I, to some extent know what you mean, but I don't entirely see how having a lot of negative thoughts equals not being able to send a digital moneysack.
I believe what you mean is that there are people who break down trying to do so, correct?
Now, being suicidal is all about your world view, because it inherently depends on whether or not you desire to live, or specifically whether or not you desire to die.
Worldviews can be changed, and in my time of close-to-suicide, I found that the only difference between the days I felt broken disgust - if not apathy - towards my existence and the days where it was just contempt was that the prior was "Life is meaningless and I'm going to die without leaving any sort of imprint on this world, like the billions of other people on the planet" and the latter was the same but added "responsibilities are fictive, play a videogame."

In other words, one is hung up on the status quo, the other is hung up on the implications, the implications being "you can do pretty much whatever the fuck you want. You're free. You don't like it? Kill yourself tomorrow, but keep in mind that patch day is Wednesday".

I mean, why can't they control their brains? What's keeping them? Do I just have mind-control powers? Other people's brains are weird.

Trivial? Perhaps. Simpler? Yes. Easier, however, I think not. Imagine knowing that there's something out there, something willing to kill you and your family because it is as hungry as you are when you look for your food.
I'd deem that pretty stressful.

I mean, you say that, but apes show fear, they show desire to keep surviving, and humans once taught a gorilla sign language and it mimicked, when its owner had died, that it was sad.
It would make sense that apes feel stress just as much, but from different things.

Well yeah, but nature running its course is what brought us in this pickle in the first place.

Except you'd get eaten fast.

Strange. It's quite difficult to imagine.

Depends on the infrastructure.
I live in Denmark, where, if you study or are unemplyed, you get 5000 kr a month (about 736 USD), up to twice the amount if you're well educated and unemployed, which is enough for rent and food, and in most cases also video games.

Actually, you pretty much do become able to live by yourself if you live in that well-managed country.
It's pretty much just get check, send half of it in for rent, spend a quarter on food, spend the rest at your leisure. What's not to be capable of?
And since life is basically just entertaining yourself until you die, and you have Steam with games for even the slowest excuse for a computer, and you have money (if you live in said well-managed country), why kill yourself?

This, however, was never about becoming a well adjusted person, it was about not killing yourself.

It was never about living well either.

South Korea and Japan, especially Japan, have a massive gap between the poor and the rich, meaning that unless you work yourself half to death all day every day, you'll probably never make the jump. It's called being burned out.
Sweden has a suicide rate which is below the OECD average, so I don't know where you're getting that from.
Finland spends very little on treatment of mental illnesses.

It's, again, not about how to become a functioning member of society, it's about how to have a little joy in an otherwise seeming joyless life.

Here's a secret though: Nobody is perfectly happy with their lives, nobody is, as you call it, 'competent', and everybody have issues. You said it yourself: You're not free from bad things happening to you. Shit happens. Most people get the fuck over it, other people don't.

Your claim, however, that you cannot experience personal growth if you live in a rich country is unsubstantiated by any sort of evidence, and you never answered my question: How can you be unable to live by yourself (granted that you do not have physical handicaps or lack the mental capacity to realise what money is) - unable as in not able to, not as in unwilling to or as in not doing so with ease, but as in literally unable to?

I, to some extent know what you mean, but I don't entirely see how having a lot of negative thoughts equals not being able to send a digital moneysack.
I believe what you mean is that there are people who break down trying to do so, correct?
Now, being suicidal is all about your world view, because it inherently depends on whether or not you desire to live, or specifically whether or not you desire to die.
Worldviews can be changed, and in my time of close-to-suicide, I found that the only difference between the days I felt broken disgust - if not apathy - towards my existence and the days where it was just contempt was that the prior was "Life is meaningless and I'm going to die without leaving any sort of imprint on this world, like the billions of other people on the planet" and the latter was the same but added "responsibilities are fictive, play a videogame."

In other words, one is hung up on the status quo, the other is hung up on the implications, the implications being "you can do pretty much whatever the fuck you want. You're free. You don't like it? Kill yourself tomorrow, but keep in mind that patch day is Wednesday".

I mean, why can't they control their brains? What's keeping them? Do I just have mind-control powers? Other people's brains are weird.

Trivial? Perhaps. Simpler? Yes. Easier, however, I think not. Imagine knowing that there's something out there, something willing to kill you and your family because it is as hungry as you are when you look for your food.
I'd deem that pretty stressful.

I mean, you say that, but apes show fear, they show desire to keep surviving, and humans once taught a gorilla sign language and it mimicked, when its owner had died, that it was sad.
It would make sense that apes feel stress just as much, but from different things.

Well yeah, but nature running its course is what brought us in this pickle in the first place.

Except you'd get eaten fast.

Strange. It's quite difficult to imagine.

There are if they choose to play them.

Depends on the infrastructure.
I live in Denmark, where, if you study or are unemplyed, you get 5000 kr a month (about 736 USD), up to twice the amount if you're well educated and unemployed, which is enough for rent and food, and in most cases also video games.

Actually, you pretty much do become able to live by yourself if you live in that well-managed country.
It's pretty much just get check, send half of it in for rent, spend a quarter on food, spend the rest at your leisure. What's not to be capable of?
And since life is basically just entertaining yourself until you die, and you have Steam with games for even the slowest excuse for a computer, and you have money (if you live in said well-managed country), why kill yourself?

This, however, was never about becoming a well adjusted person, it was about not killing yourself.

It was never about living well either.

South Korea and Japan, especially Japan, have a massive gap between the poor and the rich, meaning that unless you work yourself half to death all day every day, you'll probably never make the jump. It's called being burned out.
Sweden has a suicide rate which is below the OECD average, so I don't know where you're getting that from.
Finland spends very little on treatment of mental illnesses.

It's, again, not about how to become a functioning member of society, it's about how to have a little joy in an otherwise seeming joyless life.

Here's a secret though: Nobody is perfectly happy with their lives, nobody is, as you call it, 'competent', and everybody have issues. You said it yourself: You're not free from bad things happening to you. Shit happens. Most people get the fuck over it, other people don't.

Your claim, however, that you cannot experience personal growth if you live in a rich country is unsubstantiated by any sort of evidence, and you never answered my question: How can you be unable to live by yourself (granted that you do not have physical handicaps or lack the mental capacity to realise what money is) - unable as in not able to, not as in unwilling to or as in not doing so with ease, but as in literally unable to?

I, to some extent know what you mean, but I don't entirely see how having a lot of negative thoughts equals not being able to send a digital moneysack.
I believe what you mean is that there are people who break down trying to do so, correct?
Now, being suicidal is all about your world view, because it inherently depends on whether or not you desire to live, or specifically whether or not you desire to die.
Worldviews can be changed, and in my time of close-to-suicide, I found that the only difference between the days I felt broken disgust - if not apathy - towards my existence and the days where it was just contempt was that the prior was "Life is meaningless and I'm going to die without leaving any sort of imprint on this world, like the billions of other people on the planet" and the latter was the same but added "responsibilities are fictive, play a videogame."

In other words, one is hung up on the status quo, the other is hung up on the implications, the implications being "you can do pretty much whatever the fuck you want. You're free. You don't like it? Kill yourself tomorrow, but keep in mind that patch day is Wednesday".

I mean, why can't they control their brains? What's keeping them? Do I just have mind-control powers? Other people's brains are weird.

Trivial? Perhaps. Simpler? Yes. Easier, however, I think not. Imagine knowing that there's something out there, something willing to kill you and your family because it is as hungry as you are when you look for your food.
I'd deem that pretty stressful.

I mean, you say that, but apes show fear, they show desire to keep surviving, and humans once taught a gorilla sign language and it mimicked, when its owner had died, that it was sad.
It would make sense that apes feel stress just as much, but from different things.

Well yeah, but nature running its course is what brought us in this pickle in the first place.

Except you'd get eaten fast.

Strange. It's quite difficult to imagine.

Just takes a little longer with more sex and videogames.

So does not killing yourself though.

There are if they choose to play them.

Depends on the infrastructure.
I live in Denmark, where, if you study or are unemplyed, you get 5000 kr a month (about 736 USD), up to twice the amount if you're well educated and unemployed, which is enough for rent and food, and in most cases also video games.

Actually, you pretty much do become able to live by yourself if you live in that well-managed country.
It's pretty much just get check, send half of it in for rent, spend a quarter on food, spend the rest at your leisure. What's not to be capable of?
And since life is basically just entertaining yourself until you die, and you have Steam with games for even the slowest excuse for a computer, and you have money (if you live in said well-managed country), why kill yourself?

This, however, was never about becoming a well adjusted person, it was about not killing yourself.

It was never about living well either.

South Korea and Japan, especially Japan, have a massive gap between the poor and the rich, meaning that unless you work yourself half to death all day every day, you'll probably never make the jump. It's called being burned out.
Sweden has a suicide rate which is below the OECD average, so I don't know where you're getting that from.
Finland spends very little on treatment of mental illnesses.

It's, again, not about how to become a functioning member of society, it's about how to have a little joy in an otherwise seeming joyless life.

Here's a secret though: Nobody is perfectly happy with their lives, nobody is, as you call it, 'competent', and everybody have issues. You said it yourself: You're not free from bad things happening to you. Shit happens. Most people get the fuck over it, other people don't.

Your claim, however, that you cannot experience personal growth if you live in a rich country is unsubstantiated by any sort of evidence, and you never answered my question: How can you be unable to live by yourself (granted that you do not have physical handicaps or lack the mental capacity to realise what money is) - unable as in not able to, not as in unwilling to or as in not doing so with ease, but as in literally unable to?

I, to some extent know what you mean, but I don't entirely see how having a lot of negative thoughts equals not being able to send a digital moneysack.
I believe what you mean is that there are people who break down trying to do so, correct?
Now, being suicidal is all about your world view, because it inherently depends on whether or not you desire to live, or specifically whether or not you desire to die.
Worldviews can be changed, and in my time of close-to-suicide, I found that the only difference between the days I felt broken disgust - if not apathy - towards my existence and the days where it was just contempt was that the prior was "Life is meaningless and I'm going to die without leaving any sort of imprint on this world, like the billions of other people on the planet" and the latter was the same but added "responsibilities are fictive, play a videogame."

In other words, one is hung up on the status quo, the other is hung up on the implications, the implications being "you can do pretty much whatever the fuck you want. You're free. You don't like it? Kill yourself tomorrow, but keep in mind that patch day is Wednesday".

I mean, why can't they control their brains? What's keeping them? Do I just have mind-control powers? Other people's brains are weird.

Trivial? Perhaps. Simpler? Yes. Easier, however, I think not. Imagine knowing that there's something out there, something willing to kill you and your family because it is as hungry as you are when you look for your food.
I'd deem that pretty stressful.

I mean, you say that, but apes show fear, they show desire to keep surviving, and humans once taught a gorilla sign language and it mimicked, when its owner had died, that it was sad.
It would make sense that apes feel stress just as much, but from different things.

Well yeah, but nature running its course is what brought us in this pickle in the first place.

Except you'd get eaten fast.

Strange. It's quite difficult to imagine.

In a "I WILL kill myself and I do not care about the way in which I do it", there are also easier ways.
Also, it's probably not the average suicider then.
The average one considers death, contemplates it, looks at ways people die and say "I wonder if it would be swift", then (in the case of men usually) they get drunk as hell and pick the one that's easiest to talk themselves into, but it's by far not without consideration of the circumstances of the death.
So it does very much matter.

Just takes a little longer with more sex and videogames.

So does not killing yourself though.

There are if they choose to play them.

Depends on the infrastructure.
I live in Denmark, where, if you study or are unemplyed, you get 5000 kr a month (about 736 USD), up to twice the amount if you're well educated and unemployed, which is enough for rent and food, and in most cases also video games.

Actually, you pretty much do become able to live by yourself if you live in that well-managed country.
It's pretty much just get check, send half of it in for rent, spend a quarter on food, spend the rest at your leisure. What's not to be capable of?
And since life is basically just entertaining yourself until you die, and you have Steam with games for even the slowest excuse for a computer, and you have money (if you live in said well-managed country), why kill yourself?

This, however, was never about becoming a well adjusted person, it was about not killing yourself.

It was never about living well either.

South Korea and Japan, especially Japan, have a massive gap between the poor and the rich, meaning that unless you work yourself half to death all day every day, you'll probably never make the jump. It's called being burned out.
Sweden has a suicide rate which is below the OECD average, so I don't know where you're getting that from.
Finland spends very little on treatment of mental illnesses.

It's, again, not about how to become a functioning member of society, it's about how to have a little joy in an otherwise seeming joyless life.

Here's a secret though: Nobody is perfectly happy with their lives, nobody is, as you call it, 'competent', and everybody have issues. You said it yourself: You're not free from bad things happening to you. Shit happens. Most people get the fuck over it, other people don't.

Your claim, however, that you cannot experience personal growth if you live in a rich country is unsubstantiated by any sort of evidence, and you never answered my question: How can you be unable to live by yourself (granted that you do not have physical handicaps or lack the mental capacity to realise what money is) - unable as in not able to, not as in unwilling to or as in not doing so with ease, but as in literally unable to?

I, to some extent know what you mean, but I don't entirely see how having a lot of negative thoughts equals not being able to send a digital moneysack.
I believe what you mean is that there are people who break down trying to do so, correct?
Now, being suicidal is all about your world view, because it inherently depends on whether or not you desire to live, or specifically whether or not you desire to die.
Worldviews can be changed, and in my time of close-to-suicide, I found that the only difference between the days I felt broken disgust - if not apathy - towards my existence and the days where it was just contempt was that the prior was "Life is meaningless and I'm going to die without leaving any sort of imprint on this world, like the billions of other people on the planet" and the latter was the same but added "responsibilities are fictive, play a videogame."

In other words, one is hung up on the status quo, the other is hung up on the implications, the implications being "you can do pretty much whatever the fuck you want. You're free. You don't like it? Kill yourself tomorrow, but keep in mind that patch day is Wednesday".

I mean, why can't they control their brains? What's keeping them? Do I just have mind-control powers? Other people's brains are weird.

Trivial? Perhaps. Simpler? Yes. Easier, however, I think not. Imagine knowing that there's something out there, something willing to kill you and your family because it is as hungry as you are when you look for your food.
I'd deem that pretty stressful.

I mean, you say that, but apes show fear, they show desire to keep surviving, and humans once taught a gorilla sign language and it mimicked, when its owner had died, that it was sad.
It would make sense that apes feel stress just as much, but from different things.

Well yeah, but nature running its course is what brought us in this pickle in the first place.

Except you'd get eaten fast.

Strange. It's quite difficult to imagine.

Well yeah, but there are more comfortable ways to go.

In a "I WILL kill myself and I do not care about the way in which I do it", there are also easier ways.
Also, it's probably not the average suicider then.
The average one considers death, contemplates it, looks at ways people die and say "I wonder if it would be swift", then (in the case of men usually) they get drunk as hell and pick the one that's easiest to talk themselves into, but it's by far not without consideration of the circumstances of the death.
So it does very much matter.

Just takes a little longer with more sex and videogames.

So does not killing yourself though.

There are if they choose to play them.

Depends on the infrastructure.
I live in Denmark, where, if you study or are unemplyed, you get 5000 kr a month (about 736 USD), up to twice the amount if you're well educated and unemployed, which is enough for rent and food, and in most cases also video games.

Actually, you pretty much do become able to live by yourself if you live in that well-managed country.
It's pretty much just get check, send half of it in for rent, spend a quarter on food, spend the rest at your leisure. What's not to be capable of?
And since life is basically just entertaining yourself until you die, and you have Steam with games for even the slowest excuse for a computer, and you have money (if you live in said well-managed country), why kill yourself?

This, however, was never about becoming a well adjusted person, it was about not killing yourself.

It was never about living well either.

South Korea and Japan, especially Japan, have a massive gap between the poor and the rich, meaning that unless you work yourself half to death all day every day, you'll probably never make the jump. It's called being burned out.
Sweden has a suicide rate which is below the OECD average, so I don't know where you're getting that from.
Finland spends very little on treatment of mental illnesses.

It's, again, not about how to become a functioning member of society, it's about how to have a little joy in an otherwise seeming joyless life.

Here's a secret though: Nobody is perfectly happy with their lives, nobody is, as you call it, 'competent', and everybody have issues. You said it yourself: You're not free from bad things happening to you. Shit happens. Most people get the fuck over it, other people don't.

Your claim, however, that you cannot experience personal growth if you live in a rich country is unsubstantiated by any sort of evidence, and you never answered my question: How can you be unable to live by yourself (granted that you do not have physical handicaps or lack the mental capacity to realise what money is) - unable as in not able to, not as in unwilling to or as in not doing so with ease, but as in literally unable to?

I, to some extent know what you mean, but I don't entirely see how having a lot of negative thoughts equals not being able to send a digital moneysack.
I believe what you mean is that there are people who break down trying to do so, correct?
Now, being suicidal is all about your world view, because it inherently depends on whether or not you desire to live, or specifically whether or not you desire to die.
Worldviews can be changed, and in my time of close-to-suicide, I found that the only difference between the days I felt broken disgust - if not apathy - towards my existence and the days where it was just contempt was that the prior was "Life is meaningless and I'm going to die without leaving any sort of imprint on this world, like the billions of other people on the planet" and the latter was the same but added "responsibilities are fictive, play a videogame."

In other words, one is hung up on the status quo, the other is hung up on the implications, the implications being "you can do pretty much whatever the fuck you want. You're free. You don't like it? Kill yourself tomorrow, but keep in mind that patch day is Wednesday".

I mean, why can't they control their brains? What's keeping them? Do I just have mind-control powers? Other people's brains are weird.

Trivial? Perhaps. Simpler? Yes. Easier, however, I think not. Imagine knowing that there's something out there, something willing to kill you and your family because it is as hungry as you are when you look for your food.
I'd deem that pretty stressful.

I mean, you say that, but apes show fear, they show desire to keep surviving, and humans once taught a gorilla sign language and it mimicked, when its owner had died, that it was sad.
It would make sense that apes feel stress just as much, but from different things.

Well yeah, but nature running its course is what brought us in this pickle in the first place.

Except you'd get eaten fast.

Strange. It's quite difficult to imagine.

Dan hold her tighter shes a fighter Schneider.

Is the text supposed to form ascii art? Because if so, I can't see it.

Ill also add in as an example that the Canadian Via rail often cruises at a nice 160km/h.

Fair enough.
In Denmark, the national train company had a scare campaign a few years ago, where it described the train as going about 90 km/h at the crossings. Now, I'm sure that can fuck you up and smash your skull on impact considering the train's mass, but I'd also wager (based on speculation of course) that there are options for death not to be immediate, and the pain nerves still being active in the moment it takes you to get torn to shreds from part of your body going under the wheels.

Then again, if the smashing of brains is faster than the signal through the nerves, then it would be much less painful, but still unpleasant I guess.

Well I'm in Canada.
I'm also in school to be a police officer.
We've studied suicides on train tracks and such. The person is usually just a mess of meat and pieces that need to be picked up one by one.. It's odd because often when someone's hit by a truck they will get blown out of their shoes but with trains the feet just kinda go with the shoes and get lost somewhere in the woods.
However, the train looks slow when it's going through crossings but it's still going fast enough to brutalize internal organs on impact.
Train incidents are actually one of the rare occasions where an officer can legally assume death without a coroner's confirmation because it's just so obvious..
Deaths pretty instant.

There's a reason you can have your car license revoked, and I'm all for stricter driving tests and so forth.
Toddlers dying from negligence is a problem that is slightly more difficult to solve without removing them from the parents - which would be one solution.

About the car thing, cars have a function: They are designed to ease transportation from A to B. Guns also have a function: They are designed to ease killing or through severe bodily harm incapacitating stuff.
Still, when cars are used in their function, that's the point, but using guns in their function save for a set of rare occurrences is the problem, making me wonder why to even have them around.

Also: This guy is funny:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OZIOE6aMBk

I know! I can't wait!

i know what you mean with the brain surviving and all but shut the fuck up

Now, I don't know how the trains in your country drive, but in mine, they slow down at crossings, meaning that you'd not necessarily die from the impact instantaneously, but from the train's wheels tearing you apart and grinding you up. What little time it takes, it's still insanely gruesome.

Ill also add in as an example that the Canadian Via rail often cruises at a nice 160km/h.

Fair enough.
In Denmark, the national train company had a scare campaign a few years ago, where it described the train as going about 90 km/h at the crossings. Now, I'm sure that can fuck you up and smash your skull on impact considering the train's mass, but I'd also wager (based on speculation of course) that there are options for death not to be immediate, and the pain nerves still being active in the moment it takes you to get torn to shreds from part of your body going under the wheels.

Then again, if the smashing of brains is faster than the signal through the nerves, then it would be much less painful, but still unpleasant I guess.

Well I'm in Canada.
I'm also in school to be a police officer.
We've studied suicides on train tracks and such. The person is usually just a mess of meat and pieces that need to be picked up one by one.. It's odd because often when someone's hit by a truck they will get blown out of their shoes but with trains the feet just kinda go with the shoes and get lost somewhere in the woods.
However, the train looks slow when it's going through crossings but it's still going fast enough to brutalize internal organs on impact.
Train incidents are actually one of the rare occasions where an officer can legally assume death without a coroner's confirmation because it's just so obvious..
Deaths pretty instant.

>digatally
>sequince
>. they were a shoe and potato's for asteroids

And so on

. what, you don't start sentences lower case and with a period?

The entire comp itself was a damned mess.

It's like a compilation of several compilations.

It means 'do not commercially distribute', i.e. do not sell.

Oh. I see, fair enough.