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#22 - "But blind "low taxes for the rich and it will tric…  [+] (2 new replies) 09/18/2014 on I love this pope 0
#36 - nanako (09/18/2014) [-]
Titans are clashing and they have an audience. we look on and learn
#25 - angelusprimus (09/18/2014) [-]
If we stop incentivizing specific practices, stop ridiculous taxes, regulations, laws, etc that make simple free market practices harder to accomplish, we will see, as we have seen in the past, this process work.
So you are describing no regulation, low taxation and no incentives. We HAD that. During the gilded age. It wasn't a paradise, it was a hell of worker exploatation, massive poisoning of natural resources, and lowest social mobility in USA history. It made very few people, very very very rich, and made millions of americans into debt slaves with no hope of ever leaving poverty.

** When is it beneficial to invest and diversify your funds, what is more likely to happen?**
Exactly whats happening now. Keeping your money in the stock market, avoiding dangerous investments, and keep making money for bankers and other stockholders while it doesn't benefit anyone else at all. thats what 90% of our stockmarket does now.

** But that's the point, once they take the quick profit, a replacement will eventually come in that looks at the bigger picture.**
Why? When there is always someone building up a new company for you to raid. You have money, they don't, you can take it from them and make huge profit and keep moving, leaving growing unemployment in you wake.
And if USA becomes problematic, move your money offshore.

Free completely unregulated market isn't some sort of magic bullet that solves all problems. There are no easy solutions. And anyone who claims there are is an ignorant who doesn't get the first thing about economy.
Strongest, best economies in the history were ALWAYS the ones that balanced the private and public interest. Whenever it gets out of balance, one way or the other, shit happens.
#21 - We shouldn't be creating an incentive for any specific busines…  [+] (4 new replies) 09/18/2014 on I love this pope -2
#23 - angelusprimus (09/18/2014) [-]
We shouldn't be creating an incentive for any specific business practice.
That's exactly what we should be doing. Incentives are just that, incentive. If we make it more profitable for companies to invest in such a way that creates jobs and keep production in the country, then everyone profits. Economy and companies. If we just give them tax breaks and ask for nothing in return, nothing is what we will get.

I'm saying it generally won't happen with the desire to just show an instant boost in profits and nothing more. It does however happen very often because operating in the US can be very costly, more so than simply relocating
Its not just not rare, its such a common practice that there are hedge funds that focus on buying american companies that run expensive but profitable production, that depends on high quality of product. Do exactly what I described, and then leave while getting is good. If anything its a depressingly common practice.

No investor/broker worth his gold will not notice a business taking these actions and still willingly invest in them.
Hot potato investing. You know what they are doing is long term unsustainable, but creates huge short term profits. So you invest, betting that you will be in the time for profits, and let someone else standing with the worthless hot potato.
Again, not rare at all.
User avatar #22 - noblexfenrir (09/18/2014) [-]
"But blind "low taxes for the rich and it will trickle down" has repeatedly been shown, in every instance in history to not benefit anyone but the very few of the very rich."
If we stop incentivizing specific practices, stop ridiculous taxes, regulations, laws, etc that make simple free market practices harder to accomplish, we will see, as we have seen in the past, this process work.
When is it beneficial to invest and diversify your funds, what is more likely to happen?

Now yes, do some people just sell out and get out of dodge? Ofcourse. But that's the point, once they take the quick profit, a replacement will eventually come in that looks at the bigger picture.
#36 - nanako (09/18/2014) [-]
Titans are clashing and they have an audience. we look on and learn
#25 - angelusprimus (09/18/2014) [-]
If we stop incentivizing specific practices, stop ridiculous taxes, regulations, laws, etc that make simple free market practices harder to accomplish, we will see, as we have seen in the past, this process work.
So you are describing no regulation, low taxation and no incentives. We HAD that. During the gilded age. It wasn't a paradise, it was a hell of worker exploatation, massive poisoning of natural resources, and lowest social mobility in USA history. It made very few people, very very very rich, and made millions of americans into debt slaves with no hope of ever leaving poverty.

** When is it beneficial to invest and diversify your funds, what is more likely to happen?**
Exactly whats happening now. Keeping your money in the stock market, avoiding dangerous investments, and keep making money for bankers and other stockholders while it doesn't benefit anyone else at all. thats what 90% of our stockmarket does now.

** But that's the point, once they take the quick profit, a replacement will eventually come in that looks at the bigger picture.**
Why? When there is always someone building up a new company for you to raid. You have money, they don't, you can take it from them and make huge profit and keep moving, leaving growing unemployment in you wake.
And if USA becomes problematic, move your money offshore.

Free completely unregulated market isn't some sort of magic bullet that solves all problems. There are no easy solutions. And anyone who claims there are is an ignorant who doesn't get the first thing about economy.
Strongest, best economies in the history were ALWAYS the ones that balanced the private and public interest. Whenever it gets out of balance, one way or the other, shit happens.
#7 - Which absolutely makes no sense, because they imply CEO's are …  [+] (6 new replies) 09/17/2014 on I love this pope -2
#13 - angelusprimus (09/18/2014) [-]
Actually trickle down economy says that with larger incomes for the companies, there is larger growth, and growth benefits workers because there are more jobs opening.
And it does work like that in old Fordian capitalism, when bonuses were given to CEOs based on growth. Now bonuses are given based on profits. And profits are then shared only by the investors and management.
And in most cases investors don't give a damn about the company, they just want their profits. So CEOs and managers do things that temporarily boost profits, even though they are long term damaging and bad for the workers. Like close a factory in USA that has a 100 year experience and destroy 2000 jobs. Move the factory to Mexico and lower the costs for millions of dollars. Profits soar and they get big bonuses. Then they leave the company. Investors sell their stocks while they are high.
And the next CEO is saddled with meteorically dropping sales, due to quality dropping to the shithole. At which point he dissasembles the company for the real estate and profitable branches, and sells it off. Again destroying jobs but making profits for new investors and himself a bonus.
Its bad for the workers, its bad for the consumers, its long term bad for the economy. But to a very small amount of people, it makes a lot of money. And they then just move on to a new company.

That's not to say that tax breaks are a bad thing. But not flat tax breaks. Country should drop taxes to those that improve the economic standing. Those that increase employment, those that grow the number of production and sales facilities, those that build infrastructure for others to use.
But blind "low taxes for the rich and it will trickle down" has repeatedly been shown, in every instance in history to not benefit anyone but the very few of the very rich.
User avatar #21 - noblexfenrir (09/18/2014) [-]
We shouldn't be creating an incentive for any specific business practice.

Your example is very case specific and generally isn't going to happen, and when I say it won't happen, I'm saying it generally won't happen with the desire to just show an instant boost in profits and nothing more. It does however happen very often because operating in the US can be very costly, more so than simply relocating. Should we really be blaming companies who do this?

The second event in your scenario (Clearcutting branches and real estate) is done because at that point the attempt to revive is moot. It's better to get out as soon as possible than go down with the ship.

"Its bad for the workers, its bad for the consumers, its long term bad for the economy. "
Is it really though? Initially maybe, but it clears a section previously taken by an entity clearly without their best interests in mind, or atleast their short term interests, is now gone and can be replaced with more sound businesses with better strategies.

"But to a very small amount of people, it makes a lot of money. And they then just move on to a new company. "
Hence why is it's actually as prevalent as you make it seem. No investor/broker worth his gold will not notice a business taking these actions and still willingly invest in them. If someone makes a habit of doing this, or a specific group of people, one of two things will occur. 1- People will catch on and stop bothering with these entities. 2- They are doing this with failing companies already and so it really doesn't matter in the end if they make a quick profit of an already failing business.
#23 - angelusprimus (09/18/2014) [-]
We shouldn't be creating an incentive for any specific business practice.
That's exactly what we should be doing. Incentives are just that, incentive. If we make it more profitable for companies to invest in such a way that creates jobs and keep production in the country, then everyone profits. Economy and companies. If we just give them tax breaks and ask for nothing in return, nothing is what we will get.

I'm saying it generally won't happen with the desire to just show an instant boost in profits and nothing more. It does however happen very often because operating in the US can be very costly, more so than simply relocating
Its not just not rare, its such a common practice that there are hedge funds that focus on buying american companies that run expensive but profitable production, that depends on high quality of product. Do exactly what I described, and then leave while getting is good. If anything its a depressingly common practice.

No investor/broker worth his gold will not notice a business taking these actions and still willingly invest in them.
Hot potato investing. You know what they are doing is long term unsustainable, but creates huge short term profits. So you invest, betting that you will be in the time for profits, and let someone else standing with the worthless hot potato.
Again, not rare at all.
User avatar #22 - noblexfenrir (09/18/2014) [-]
"But blind "low taxes for the rich and it will trickle down" has repeatedly been shown, in every instance in history to not benefit anyone but the very few of the very rich."
If we stop incentivizing specific practices, stop ridiculous taxes, regulations, laws, etc that make simple free market practices harder to accomplish, we will see, as we have seen in the past, this process work.
When is it beneficial to invest and diversify your funds, what is more likely to happen?

Now yes, do some people just sell out and get out of dodge? Ofcourse. But that's the point, once they take the quick profit, a replacement will eventually come in that looks at the bigger picture.
#36 - nanako (09/18/2014) [-]
Titans are clashing and they have an audience. we look on and learn
#25 - angelusprimus (09/18/2014) [-]
If we stop incentivizing specific practices, stop ridiculous taxes, regulations, laws, etc that make simple free market practices harder to accomplish, we will see, as we have seen in the past, this process work.
So you are describing no regulation, low taxation and no incentives. We HAD that. During the gilded age. It wasn't a paradise, it was a hell of worker exploatation, massive poisoning of natural resources, and lowest social mobility in USA history. It made very few people, very very very rich, and made millions of americans into debt slaves with no hope of ever leaving poverty.

** When is it beneficial to invest and diversify your funds, what is more likely to happen?**
Exactly whats happening now. Keeping your money in the stock market, avoiding dangerous investments, and keep making money for bankers and other stockholders while it doesn't benefit anyone else at all. thats what 90% of our stockmarket does now.

** But that's the point, once they take the quick profit, a replacement will eventually come in that looks at the bigger picture.**
Why? When there is always someone building up a new company for you to raid. You have money, they don't, you can take it from them and make huge profit and keep moving, leaving growing unemployment in you wake.
And if USA becomes problematic, move your money offshore.

Free completely unregulated market isn't some sort of magic bullet that solves all problems. There are no easy solutions. And anyone who claims there are is an ignorant who doesn't get the first thing about economy.
Strongest, best economies in the history were ALWAYS the ones that balanced the private and public interest. Whenever it gets out of balance, one way or the other, shit happens.
#46 - "I'm a pragmatic agnostic, basically I don't give a … 09/16/2014 on A Richard Dawkins block 0
#41 - My god, is your picture for OP or for yourself? Athei…  [+] (4 new replies) 09/16/2014 on A Richard Dawkins block +1
#45 - cupotruth (09/16/2014) [-]
I'm a pragmatic agnostic, basically I don't give a shit.

And since atheists do not believe in a god it is only a logical assumption that they believe science holds the means to explaining life because there is not exactly anything else stepping up trying to explain life that doesn't believe in god so yeah I assumed that atheists inherently follow sciences explanation.

My bad for not specifying on the level you wanted me to.
#56 - anonymous (09/16/2014) [-]
"I believe in the existence of a god or gods."
If the above statement does not apply to you, then you are an atheist. Period. This is just common convention. You may call yourself whatever you wish, but many will consider you an agnostic atheist.
User avatar #58 - cupotruth (09/16/2014) [-]
Pragmatic means that I do not know or cannot prove in the existence of gad and that I believe if god did exist that he would not work on the individual level and rather on a grand scale so his focus would not be solely directed at humanity making it so I feel like it is something I do not care to think about.

By all means god could exist but i believe he would follow the "when you do something right, people won't know you have done anything at all" school of thought. Meaning his grand scope will lead to small actions rather large ones so he would really just be the physical embodiment of the butterfly effect.

Not something worth praise.
User avatar #46 - noblexfenrir (09/16/2014) [-]
"I'm a pragmatic agnostic, basically I don't give a shit. "
I don't give a shit either, I'm still an atheist, as most likely, you are as well since agnosticism doesn't really lead to theism. Agnostic is a determination of knowledge, you are agnostic if you do not claim omniscience, you are gnostic if you do. Atheism is if you do not accept the claim of a god, theism is if you do. Most likely you are then an agnostic atheist like many others.

"so yeah I assumed that atheists inherently follow sciences explanation. "
While I agree science as a process is what we will use to explain life (we essentially already have as it stands.) being an atheist isn't inherent to this unfortunately. It's why it is important to explain that atheism only relates to the claim of gods existence, because very often you will find atheists who do not follow science or logic in many areas of their lives.

"My bad for not specifying on the level you wanted me to."
No worries, I just find it frustrating when people answer with "I'm agnostic" when it doesn't answer the question. It's like someone asking you your favorite colour and you yell out "five!".
#4 - ******* Peng's trophy in the first game, got luck… 09/16/2014 on Self-Explanatory +6
#27 - "This means that the only way you will be able to cover …  [+] (2 new replies) 09/16/2014 on A former Games Journalist... +9
#29 - anonymous (09/16/2014) [-]
your one hundred percent right. in no instance ever should you have to choose your morals and ethics over your passion. if it is truly your passion, you can find a way to do it without corrupting yourself or your views.
We as men and woman, as humanity have a free will and the power to think, and solve and conquer.
we became the apex of life because we refused to accept our roe as a fleshy defenseless meat sack.
when death came knocking, we fought back with rocks, spears, anything our minds could come up with to keep our main goal in site...
to live....
the human race has fought tooth and nail to protect ourselves and our ways of life for centuries, form animals, the fury of mother nature and even our fellow man.
now as in the year 2014 we have a plethora nay an armada of knowledge and tech to defend what we as individuals believing in our souls to be right....
so go and work at MacDonalds or some shit and quit wasting our time.
#30 - subgunner (09/16/2014) [-]
well....
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User avatar #30 - qwarthos (09/15/2014) [-]
I'm not exactly sure why, but I really hope he died and the last thing he saw was someone flipping him off.

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User avatar #191 - revengeforfreeze (02/16/2014) [-]
Plz respond
User avatar #192 to #191 - noblexfenrir (02/16/2014) [-]
Oh wow sorry mate, for some reason I wasn't notified you posted on here before. Strange, but either way, I can't honestly say I have seen then, or seen any TED talks outside of segments here and there.
User avatar #194 to #192 - indone (06/19/2014) [-]
Did you watch any TED videos since?
User avatar #195 to #194 - noblexfenrir (06/20/2014) [-]
Some yes, although I find myself not connecting with TED's format of short explanations and little debate availability. They're good for background noise but for videos I pay special attention to, they don't fit the bill.
User avatar #196 to #195 - indone (06/20/2014) [-]
That's why I prefer open debate things like the ones Sam Harris usually engages in.

Who's your favourite scientist? Mine has to be Sam, man, he's so down to earth and smart.
User avatar #197 to #196 - noblexfenrir (06/20/2014) [-]
Dawkins or Carroll I'd have to say.
User avatar #198 to #197 - indone (06/20/2014) [-]
Carroll?
User avatar #199 to #198 - noblexfenrir (06/20/2014) [-]
Theoretical cosmologist at CIT. One of his books is "the arrow of time". He's not a Dawkins or a Harris, but I prefer him as a scientist.
User avatar #193 to #192 - revengeforfreeze (02/16/2014) [-]
No problem, it has happened to me too.

Interesting. They are packed with knowledge though so you ought to watch them , in my opinion
User avatar #190 - revengeforfreeze (02/07/2014) [-]
So, I've a question.

Have you seen any of the religiously themed TED talks?
#189 - kanadetenshi (12/24/2013) [-]
Hey Noblex, thought you might be interested in this. You know Aronra right? Then you probably also know that he uses document maps to illustrate phylogenetic clades although these maps where animated rather than real.

So i decided to make my own phylogeny replication with document maps, although since i'm not an experienced paleonthologist it'll probably be less complex than most phylogeny project and will probably have to be constantly updated to fix errors and add information i overlooked, it's also in Dutch but i can translate it.

If you have any good articles or sources with information on taxonomic ranks i'd appreciate it very much.
User avatar #188 - schnizel (11/11/2013) [-]
Sup bro?
User avatar #187 - schnizel (11/10/2013) [-]
Daily reminder
That my people were the original heretics
#184 - anonymous (10/22/2013) [-]
Is that all you do is **** on others beliefs?
User avatar #185 to #184 - noblexfenrir (10/22/2013) [-]
If they're wrong? Ofcourse I do. If it's just an opinion I think is wrong? I'll explain why I do but it's up to them how they take it.
User avatar #183 - christophrhitchens (10/17/2013) [-]
back from the dead
User avatar #180 - betta ONLINE (10/12/2013) [-]
EAUGHGUGRHWAU!

Y U THUMB DOWN MY COMIC

lol, I don't really care that you didn't like it. I'm just here to get some input on why you didn't like it.
User avatar #181 to #180 - noblexfenrir (10/12/2013) [-]
Jesus that was quick response, are you sitting watching the thumbs for it?

Anyways, the joke pacing was just really off. Really slow in the beginning for a joke that's been told to death in every variation possible, a shoehorned in joke about her eyes, and to be honest the over exaggerated language does annoy me when there is no reason for it whatsoever (I think it had something to do with nipples and lighting aflame), it's just there to be there.

Basically comic was too long for the joke you were doing and the joke you chose is overused in my opinion.
User avatar #182 to #181 - betta ONLINE (10/12/2013) [-]
True, but I just thought it'd be interesting to break the 4th wall a bit with the joke. I do need to work on making my comics shorter though; I agree with that.

Thank you for the input (:

I actually am watching the thumbs. I have no other website to check right now, so why the **** not :T
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wrong profile, sorreh
User avatar #172 - robinwilliamson (06/23/2013) [-]
I'm a fan of your work, you're an honorable member of the Religion Board. God bless you.......oh wait
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#157 to #154 - anonymous (04/18/2013) [-]
He's really good at feigning intelligence and expertise. thats about it
User avatar #155 to #154 - noblexfenrir (04/14/2013) [-]
Thank you. It really means alot. I love reading your threads, you either bring up questions I'm curious to see the answer to, and on a few occasions shown me information I was unaware of.

Especially considering as of late I have had very little drive to converse on the board simply because it's getting tiring. Not the debating mind you, I love that to death. The people are more the problem. The most recent bout with xJokeface on your gay marriage thread is a very good example, it's just getting more and more difficult to show a shred of seriousness or even respect to some of the regulars there.
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#144 - anonymous (03/11/2013) [-]
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD

JESUS CHRIST is the Light of the world. Whoever follows Him will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. Open your heart to Jesus Christ !
#143 - anonymous (03/11/2013) [-]
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD

JESUS CHRIST is the Light of the world. Whoever follows Him will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. Open your heart to Jesus Christ !
#142 - anonymous (03/11/2013) [-]
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD

JESUS CHRIST is the Light of the world. Whoever follows Him will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. Open your heart to Jesus Christ !
#141 - anonymous (03/11/2013) [-]
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD

JESUS CHRIST is the Light of the world. Whoever follows Him will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. Open your heart to Jesus Christ !
#140 - anonymous (03/11/2013) [-]
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD

JESUS CHRIST is the Light of the world. Whoever follows Him will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. Open your heart to Jesus Christ !
#139 - anonymous (03/11/2013) [-]
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD

JESUS CHRIST is the Light of the world. Whoever follows Him will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. Open your heart to Jesus Christ !
#138 - anonymous (03/11/2013) [-]
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD

JESUS CHRIST is the Light of the world. Whoever follows Him will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. Open your heart to Jesus Christ !
#137 - anonymous (03/11/2013) [-]
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD

JESUS CHRIST is the Light of the world. Whoever follows Him will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. Open your heart to Jesus Christ !
#136 - anonymous (03/11/2013) [-]
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD

JESUS CHRIST is the Light of the world. Whoever follows Him will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. Open your heart to Jesus Christ !
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