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#203 - Just looked at your profile and realized I spent half the even…  [+] (1 new reply) 07/02/2015 on Can the internet save Greece? 0
#204 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
You're either ignoring everything I say, or dismissing it as "conspiracy theories". I had to repeat things over and over because you can't read. And after that, you call me a troll? Quite the comedian, aren't you? If you actually read my comments, you'll see that most of them get green thumbs, and the only red ones are from defending my country against retarded accusations from angry Germans or people like you who don't like seeing what the media fed them being proven wrong.

And I like how you're claiming that wars over oil are somehow odd or unusual. I'm curious, how were you raised?
#202 - Okay this will be my last response to you. You're seriously co… 07/02/2015 on Can the internet save Greece? 0
#200 - -Really? Germany wants to enslave Greece? This is getting ridi…  [+] (4 new replies) 07/02/2015 on Can the internet save Greece? 0
#201 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
-The only ridiculous thing here is the way I need to repeat things over and over because you don't read what you respond to.
-Greece can't use those resources, especially oil, because a) until now we were constantly told by corrupt politicians that we don't have any, and b) if we start using them, half the world will declare war against us to steal them, as has been the case with other countries.
-The cycle will be broken if a) other countries stop interfering with things like the Siemens scandal, the faulty submarines, forcing us into the Euro, threatening politicians who try to improve the situation etc. and let us take advantage of our resources. Also, claiming that I'm making you repeat things is just silly at this point. How many times did I direct you to previous posts you hadn't read? Try counting.
-Portugal and the other countries aren't under the international pressure Greece is, their politicians aren't under direct control from other countries, and there's also the matter of WW2 reparations.
-Germany already tried to enslave Greece twice, only with military force instead of economy, do you honestly think that trying a third time is so unlikely? As for what EU should do, see above. You should try not thinking like a sheep if you don't want to be treated like one.
#203 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
Just looked at your profile and realized I spent half the evening responding to probably a troll account. great
#204 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
You're either ignoring everything I say, or dismissing it as "conspiracy theories". I had to repeat things over and over because you can't read. And after that, you call me a troll? Quite the comedian, aren't you? If you actually read my comments, you'll see that most of them get green thumbs, and the only red ones are from defending my country against retarded accusations from angry Germans or people like you who don't like seeing what the media fed them being proven wrong.

And I like how you're claiming that wars over oil are somehow odd or unusual. I'm curious, how were you raised?
#202 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
Okay this will be my last response to you. You're seriously comparing today's Germany to Nazi Germany, and you are claiming the world will invade Greece if they start using their oil. You are just deluded by the Greek anti-german propaganda and can't deal with the fact that the current situation is entirely Greece's fault.
Good night
#198 - -And how would Germany get it's money back if Greece was destr…  [+] (6 new replies) 07/01/2015 on Can the internet save Greece? 0
#199 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
-Greece has important natural resources, and can also become a source of cheap labor if enslaved. That's what Germany wants.
-As I said before, Greece isn't spending that money you're talking about, it's just changing hands between important people. Don't make me repeat what I already said, it makes you look dumb.
-Did I say it's the EU that wants to destroy the Euro? You need to read a bit more carefully. Also, forcing impossible terms isn't "helping".
-I'm sure that's what you're told, but you need to read #193 again. Many times, perhaps.
-I just described why giving more money and forcing terms that make the loan impossible to repay is simply destructive. And you can try actually reading what you reply to if you want to be treated like you're smart.
#200 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
-Really? Germany wants to enslave Greece? This is getting ridiculous...
btw Germany has enough cheap labour with all the immigrants, and if Greece really has such special resources that they are worth the billions Germany is donating to Greece, then why doesn't Greece just use them to pay off the debt?
-I know that, it's paying off it's debt with the IMF for example. But that cycle will continue for ever unless Greece starts saving. You are making me repeat everything, and stop being so aggressive
-The terms are not impossible, Portugal and the other countries managed just fine.
-Well what do you think the Eu should do then? Just donate money to Greece for ever? And like I said, the only way the loans will ever be repaid is if Greece actually starts saving. Of course I'm reading what you are writing, it is just hard to take it seriously when you are claiming Germany is trying to enslave and destroy Greece
#201 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
-The only ridiculous thing here is the way I need to repeat things over and over because you don't read what you respond to.
-Greece can't use those resources, especially oil, because a) until now we were constantly told by corrupt politicians that we don't have any, and b) if we start using them, half the world will declare war against us to steal them, as has been the case with other countries.
-The cycle will be broken if a) other countries stop interfering with things like the Siemens scandal, the faulty submarines, forcing us into the Euro, threatening politicians who try to improve the situation etc. and let us take advantage of our resources. Also, claiming that I'm making you repeat things is just silly at this point. How many times did I direct you to previous posts you hadn't read? Try counting.
-Portugal and the other countries aren't under the international pressure Greece is, their politicians aren't under direct control from other countries, and there's also the matter of WW2 reparations.
-Germany already tried to enslave Greece twice, only with military force instead of economy, do you honestly think that trying a third time is so unlikely? As for what EU should do, see above. You should try not thinking like a sheep if you don't want to be treated like one.
#203 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
Just looked at your profile and realized I spent half the evening responding to probably a troll account. great
#204 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
You're either ignoring everything I say, or dismissing it as "conspiracy theories". I had to repeat things over and over because you can't read. And after that, you call me a troll? Quite the comedian, aren't you? If you actually read my comments, you'll see that most of them get green thumbs, and the only red ones are from defending my country against retarded accusations from angry Germans or people like you who don't like seeing what the media fed them being proven wrong.

And I like how you're claiming that wars over oil are somehow odd or unusual. I'm curious, how were you raised?
#202 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
Okay this will be my last response to you. You're seriously comparing today's Germany to Nazi Germany, and you are claiming the world will invade Greece if they start using their oil. You are just deluded by the Greek anti-german propaganda and can't deal with the fact that the current situation is entirely Greece's fault.
Good night
#196 - Oh come on, the WW2 reparations thing is a joke. And Siemens a…  [+] (8 new replies) 07/01/2015 on Can the internet save Greece? 0
#197 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
-Jokes don't last 65 years.
-If you think major companies and governments aren't equally important, you haven't figured out how the world works. Why do you think the EU is trying to force terms that will make their "loans" literally impossible to be repaid?
-Germany doesn't want to destroy the Euro, just Greece. Others want the former.
-Dismissing anyone who disagrees with what you heard on the TV as a "conspiracy theorist" is pretty low-class. Think for yourself once in a while.
-As I said before (from personal experience, and not from what I heard on the TV) the situation was not improving at all. I described why in detail, in #193.
-The EU is demanding more austerity measures, as I (again) just described in my two previous posts. Please read what you're responding to, don't just repeat things you heard. It makes you look dumb.
#198 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
-And how would Germany get it's money back if Greece was destroyed? That's not what Germany wants
-The only way the loans will ever be repaid is if Greece actually stops spending money, and the austerity measures would help with that. Giving Greece more and more money is not a solution because it will just be spent again unless they start saving
-Claiming that the EU wants to destroy Greece does sound like a conspiracy theory, why would they want that when it only has a negative impact on the rest of the EU (just look at what the euro is worth now). The EU is trying to help
-The situation was improving because there was a budget surplus. Have enpough surplus and you can start paying your creditors back, and the whole crisis would be solved.
-I know they are demanding austerity measures, but only as exchange for giving Greece more money. Greece is demanding more money for free. No need to start calling me names
#199 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
-Greece has important natural resources, and can also become a source of cheap labor if enslaved. That's what Germany wants.
-As I said before, Greece isn't spending that money you're talking about, it's just changing hands between important people. Don't make me repeat what I already said, it makes you look dumb.
-Did I say it's the EU that wants to destroy the Euro? You need to read a bit more carefully. Also, forcing impossible terms isn't "helping".
-I'm sure that's what you're told, but you need to read #193 again. Many times, perhaps.
-I just described why giving more money and forcing terms that make the loan impossible to repay is simply destructive. And you can try actually reading what you reply to if you want to be treated like you're smart.
#200 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
-Really? Germany wants to enslave Greece? This is getting ridiculous...
btw Germany has enough cheap labour with all the immigrants, and if Greece really has such special resources that they are worth the billions Germany is donating to Greece, then why doesn't Greece just use them to pay off the debt?
-I know that, it's paying off it's debt with the IMF for example. But that cycle will continue for ever unless Greece starts saving. You are making me repeat everything, and stop being so aggressive
-The terms are not impossible, Portugal and the other countries managed just fine.
-Well what do you think the Eu should do then? Just donate money to Greece for ever? And like I said, the only way the loans will ever be repaid is if Greece actually starts saving. Of course I'm reading what you are writing, it is just hard to take it seriously when you are claiming Germany is trying to enslave and destroy Greece
#201 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
-The only ridiculous thing here is the way I need to repeat things over and over because you don't read what you respond to.
-Greece can't use those resources, especially oil, because a) until now we were constantly told by corrupt politicians that we don't have any, and b) if we start using them, half the world will declare war against us to steal them, as has been the case with other countries.
-The cycle will be broken if a) other countries stop interfering with things like the Siemens scandal, the faulty submarines, forcing us into the Euro, threatening politicians who try to improve the situation etc. and let us take advantage of our resources. Also, claiming that I'm making you repeat things is just silly at this point. How many times did I direct you to previous posts you hadn't read? Try counting.
-Portugal and the other countries aren't under the international pressure Greece is, their politicians aren't under direct control from other countries, and there's also the matter of WW2 reparations.
-Germany already tried to enslave Greece twice, only with military force instead of economy, do you honestly think that trying a third time is so unlikely? As for what EU should do, see above. You should try not thinking like a sheep if you don't want to be treated like one.
#203 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
Just looked at your profile and realized I spent half the evening responding to probably a troll account. great
#204 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
You're either ignoring everything I say, or dismissing it as "conspiracy theories". I had to repeat things over and over because you can't read. And after that, you call me a troll? Quite the comedian, aren't you? If you actually read my comments, you'll see that most of them get green thumbs, and the only red ones are from defending my country against retarded accusations from angry Germans or people like you who don't like seeing what the media fed them being proven wrong.

And I like how you're claiming that wars over oil are somehow odd or unusual. I'm curious, how were you raised?
#202 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
Okay this will be my last response to you. You're seriously comparing today's Germany to Nazi Germany, and you are claiming the world will invade Greece if they start using their oil. You are just deluded by the Greek anti-german propaganda and can't deal with the fact that the current situation is entirely Greece's fault.
Good night
#194 - well the economy sure was better than it is now and why th…  [+] (10 new replies) 07/01/2015 on Can the internet save Greece? 0
#195 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
It's been steadily worsening since 2007, of course it was better then.

As for who wants to destroy Greece, why don't you ask Germany about the Siemens scandal, the broken submarines, and the WW2 reparations they owe us. There's also those who want to see the Euro destroyed. Also, they're not giving money to Greece, the people never saw (or benefited from) a single Euro. It's all changing hands between important people for the sake of their plans, whatever they are.

And the EU is making it impossible for Greece to cooperate. They see that the current situation is destroying any prospect of improvement, and they're demanding even more.
#196 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
Oh come on, the WW2 reparations thing is a joke. And Siemens and German companies =/= German and EU government. And the German government wants to stay in the Euro, although there is a new party gaining followers that wants to exit the Euro, precisely because Germany has to pay for everyone else.

Of course it's not the people getting the money, the people aren't the ones who has to pay back the debt, that's the greek government, and they get the money to pay back (part of) the debt they owe to other people who aren't as kind as the EU and are willing to give them more time. You're really starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist.

Actually - like I've said before - the situation was improving and Greece was making a budget surplus before the current government decided to stop all the good things and started spending even more money!

And how is the EU demanding anything, it's Greece who wants money from the EU
#197 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
-Jokes don't last 65 years.
-If you think major companies and governments aren't equally important, you haven't figured out how the world works. Why do you think the EU is trying to force terms that will make their "loans" literally impossible to be repaid?
-Germany doesn't want to destroy the Euro, just Greece. Others want the former.
-Dismissing anyone who disagrees with what you heard on the TV as a "conspiracy theorist" is pretty low-class. Think for yourself once in a while.
-As I said before (from personal experience, and not from what I heard on the TV) the situation was not improving at all. I described why in detail, in #193.
-The EU is demanding more austerity measures, as I (again) just described in my two previous posts. Please read what you're responding to, don't just repeat things you heard. It makes you look dumb.
#198 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
-And how would Germany get it's money back if Greece was destroyed? That's not what Germany wants
-The only way the loans will ever be repaid is if Greece actually stops spending money, and the austerity measures would help with that. Giving Greece more and more money is not a solution because it will just be spent again unless they start saving
-Claiming that the EU wants to destroy Greece does sound like a conspiracy theory, why would they want that when it only has a negative impact on the rest of the EU (just look at what the euro is worth now). The EU is trying to help
-The situation was improving because there was a budget surplus. Have enpough surplus and you can start paying your creditors back, and the whole crisis would be solved.
-I know they are demanding austerity measures, but only as exchange for giving Greece more money. Greece is demanding more money for free. No need to start calling me names
#199 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
-Greece has important natural resources, and can also become a source of cheap labor if enslaved. That's what Germany wants.
-As I said before, Greece isn't spending that money you're talking about, it's just changing hands between important people. Don't make me repeat what I already said, it makes you look dumb.
-Did I say it's the EU that wants to destroy the Euro? You need to read a bit more carefully. Also, forcing impossible terms isn't "helping".
-I'm sure that's what you're told, but you need to read #193 again. Many times, perhaps.
-I just described why giving more money and forcing terms that make the loan impossible to repay is simply destructive. And you can try actually reading what you reply to if you want to be treated like you're smart.
#200 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
-Really? Germany wants to enslave Greece? This is getting ridiculous...
btw Germany has enough cheap labour with all the immigrants, and if Greece really has such special resources that they are worth the billions Germany is donating to Greece, then why doesn't Greece just use them to pay off the debt?
-I know that, it's paying off it's debt with the IMF for example. But that cycle will continue for ever unless Greece starts saving. You are making me repeat everything, and stop being so aggressive
-The terms are not impossible, Portugal and the other countries managed just fine.
-Well what do you think the Eu should do then? Just donate money to Greece for ever? And like I said, the only way the loans will ever be repaid is if Greece actually starts saving. Of course I'm reading what you are writing, it is just hard to take it seriously when you are claiming Germany is trying to enslave and destroy Greece
#201 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
-The only ridiculous thing here is the way I need to repeat things over and over because you don't read what you respond to.
-Greece can't use those resources, especially oil, because a) until now we were constantly told by corrupt politicians that we don't have any, and b) if we start using them, half the world will declare war against us to steal them, as has been the case with other countries.
-The cycle will be broken if a) other countries stop interfering with things like the Siemens scandal, the faulty submarines, forcing us into the Euro, threatening politicians who try to improve the situation etc. and let us take advantage of our resources. Also, claiming that I'm making you repeat things is just silly at this point. How many times did I direct you to previous posts you hadn't read? Try counting.
-Portugal and the other countries aren't under the international pressure Greece is, their politicians aren't under direct control from other countries, and there's also the matter of WW2 reparations.
-Germany already tried to enslave Greece twice, only with military force instead of economy, do you honestly think that trying a third time is so unlikely? As for what EU should do, see above. You should try not thinking like a sheep if you don't want to be treated like one.
#203 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
Just looked at your profile and realized I spent half the evening responding to probably a troll account. great
#204 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
You're either ignoring everything I say, or dismissing it as "conspiracy theories". I had to repeat things over and over because you can't read. And after that, you call me a troll? Quite the comedian, aren't you? If you actually read my comments, you'll see that most of them get green thumbs, and the only red ones are from defending my country against retarded accusations from angry Germans or people like you who don't like seeing what the media fed them being proven wrong.

And I like how you're claiming that wars over oil are somehow odd or unusual. I'm curious, how were you raised?
#202 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
Okay this will be my last response to you. You're seriously comparing today's Germany to Nazi Germany, and you are claiming the world will invade Greece if they start using their oil. You are just deluded by the Greek anti-german propaganda and can't deal with the fact that the current situation is entirely Greece's fault.
Good night
#190 - Well obviously a lot of Greek have not always been paying thei…  [+] (12 new replies) 07/01/2015 on Can the internet save Greece? 0
#193 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
I literally just explained to you where those claims of 80 billion are coming from. See post >>#169.

The economy was not improving, I'm sure that's what they were telling you, but the economy was stagnating. People were afraid of the constantly changing laws, to the degree that many deposited their money in foreign banks in fear of the government suddenly coming up with some new law and stealing them. (And they were right, to an extent, as I described.) Everyone was afraid to spend anything, because of the austerity measures and the way things kept changing every day, and everything was brought to a standstill.

And of course the previous governments didn't piss of Europe, they were obeying their every command. Who do you think came up with the plan to destroy Greece in this way?
#194 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
well the economy sure was better than it is now
and why the fuck would the EU want to destroy Greece? They are the ones saving it over and over again and giving them money even though everybody knows it will never be paid back. Typical conspiracy theory bullshit
Just look at portugal, spain and ireland. They were in similar situations to greece, but they actually worked together with the EU and fixed their deficit instead of threatening to annex the Goethe Institute or to accept all immigrants and send them on to Germany unless they comply with their demands
#195 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
It's been steadily worsening since 2007, of course it was better then.

As for who wants to destroy Greece, why don't you ask Germany about the Siemens scandal, the broken submarines, and the WW2 reparations they owe us. There's also those who want to see the Euro destroyed. Also, they're not giving money to Greece, the people never saw (or benefited from) a single Euro. It's all changing hands between important people for the sake of their plans, whatever they are.

And the EU is making it impossible for Greece to cooperate. They see that the current situation is destroying any prospect of improvement, and they're demanding even more.
#196 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
Oh come on, the WW2 reparations thing is a joke. And Siemens and German companies =/= German and EU government. And the German government wants to stay in the Euro, although there is a new party gaining followers that wants to exit the Euro, precisely because Germany has to pay for everyone else.

Of course it's not the people getting the money, the people aren't the ones who has to pay back the debt, that's the greek government, and they get the money to pay back (part of) the debt they owe to other people who aren't as kind as the EU and are willing to give them more time. You're really starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist.

Actually - like I've said before - the situation was improving and Greece was making a budget surplus before the current government decided to stop all the good things and started spending even more money!

And how is the EU demanding anything, it's Greece who wants money from the EU
#197 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
-Jokes don't last 65 years.
-If you think major companies and governments aren't equally important, you haven't figured out how the world works. Why do you think the EU is trying to force terms that will make their "loans" literally impossible to be repaid?
-Germany doesn't want to destroy the Euro, just Greece. Others want the former.
-Dismissing anyone who disagrees with what you heard on the TV as a "conspiracy theorist" is pretty low-class. Think for yourself once in a while.
-As I said before (from personal experience, and not from what I heard on the TV) the situation was not improving at all. I described why in detail, in #193.
-The EU is demanding more austerity measures, as I (again) just described in my two previous posts. Please read what you're responding to, don't just repeat things you heard. It makes you look dumb.
#198 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
-And how would Germany get it's money back if Greece was destroyed? That's not what Germany wants
-The only way the loans will ever be repaid is if Greece actually stops spending money, and the austerity measures would help with that. Giving Greece more and more money is not a solution because it will just be spent again unless they start saving
-Claiming that the EU wants to destroy Greece does sound like a conspiracy theory, why would they want that when it only has a negative impact on the rest of the EU (just look at what the euro is worth now). The EU is trying to help
-The situation was improving because there was a budget surplus. Have enpough surplus and you can start paying your creditors back, and the whole crisis would be solved.
-I know they are demanding austerity measures, but only as exchange for giving Greece more money. Greece is demanding more money for free. No need to start calling me names
#199 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
-Greece has important natural resources, and can also become a source of cheap labor if enslaved. That's what Germany wants.
-As I said before, Greece isn't spending that money you're talking about, it's just changing hands between important people. Don't make me repeat what I already said, it makes you look dumb.
-Did I say it's the EU that wants to destroy the Euro? You need to read a bit more carefully. Also, forcing impossible terms isn't "helping".
-I'm sure that's what you're told, but you need to read #193 again. Many times, perhaps.
-I just described why giving more money and forcing terms that make the loan impossible to repay is simply destructive. And you can try actually reading what you reply to if you want to be treated like you're smart.
#200 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
-Really? Germany wants to enslave Greece? This is getting ridiculous...
btw Germany has enough cheap labour with all the immigrants, and if Greece really has such special resources that they are worth the billions Germany is donating to Greece, then why doesn't Greece just use them to pay off the debt?
-I know that, it's paying off it's debt with the IMF for example. But that cycle will continue for ever unless Greece starts saving. You are making me repeat everything, and stop being so aggressive
-The terms are not impossible, Portugal and the other countries managed just fine.
-Well what do you think the Eu should do then? Just donate money to Greece for ever? And like I said, the only way the loans will ever be repaid is if Greece actually starts saving. Of course I'm reading what you are writing, it is just hard to take it seriously when you are claiming Germany is trying to enslave and destroy Greece
#201 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
-The only ridiculous thing here is the way I need to repeat things over and over because you don't read what you respond to.
-Greece can't use those resources, especially oil, because a) until now we were constantly told by corrupt politicians that we don't have any, and b) if we start using them, half the world will declare war against us to steal them, as has been the case with other countries.
-The cycle will be broken if a) other countries stop interfering with things like the Siemens scandal, the faulty submarines, forcing us into the Euro, threatening politicians who try to improve the situation etc. and let us take advantage of our resources. Also, claiming that I'm making you repeat things is just silly at this point. How many times did I direct you to previous posts you hadn't read? Try counting.
-Portugal and the other countries aren't under the international pressure Greece is, their politicians aren't under direct control from other countries, and there's also the matter of WW2 reparations.
-Germany already tried to enslave Greece twice, only with military force instead of economy, do you honestly think that trying a third time is so unlikely? As for what EU should do, see above. You should try not thinking like a sheep if you don't want to be treated like one.
#203 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
Just looked at your profile and realized I spent half the evening responding to probably a troll account. great
#204 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
You're either ignoring everything I say, or dismissing it as "conspiracy theories". I had to repeat things over and over because you can't read. And after that, you call me a troll? Quite the comedian, aren't you? If you actually read my comments, you'll see that most of them get green thumbs, and the only red ones are from defending my country against retarded accusations from angry Germans or people like you who don't like seeing what the media fed them being proven wrong.

And I like how you're claiming that wars over oil are somehow odd or unusual. I'm curious, how were you raised?
#202 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
Okay this will be my last response to you. You're seriously comparing today's Germany to Nazi Germany, and you are claiming the world will invade Greece if they start using their oil. You are just deluded by the Greek anti-german propaganda and can't deal with the fact that the current situation is entirely Greece's fault.
Good night
#181 - still, compared to most other european countries, the average …  [+] (14 new replies) 07/01/2015 on Can the internet save Greece? 0
#187 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
There can't be a "still" when you're ignoring everything I'm telling you, can there? I'd love to see that 100000, but I'm not seeing it anywhere. And for the third time, we've always paid taxes. Try actually reading what I wrote above.

The reason we're complaining is that not only are the current measures making it impossible to see any sort of improvement, we're being asked to shoulder more. And that's impossible. Stop devouring everything they feed you.
#190 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
Well obviously a lot of Greek have not always been paying their debts, otherwise there wouldnt be 80 billion missing. I'm not saying that you and your family haven't been paying taxes, just that it appears to be more widespread in Greece than elsewhere.

And there actually was a lot of improvement and the economy was starting to recover before the current government was elected and started pissing off the rest of Europe
#193 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
I literally just explained to you where those claims of 80 billion are coming from. See post >>#169.

The economy was not improving, I'm sure that's what they were telling you, but the economy was stagnating. People were afraid of the constantly changing laws, to the degree that many deposited their money in foreign banks in fear of the government suddenly coming up with some new law and stealing them. (And they were right, to an extent, as I described.) Everyone was afraid to spend anything, because of the austerity measures and the way things kept changing every day, and everything was brought to a standstill.

And of course the previous governments didn't piss of Europe, they were obeying their every command. Who do you think came up with the plan to destroy Greece in this way?
#194 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
well the economy sure was better than it is now
and why the fuck would the EU want to destroy Greece? They are the ones saving it over and over again and giving them money even though everybody knows it will never be paid back. Typical conspiracy theory bullshit
Just look at portugal, spain and ireland. They were in similar situations to greece, but they actually worked together with the EU and fixed their deficit instead of threatening to annex the Goethe Institute or to accept all immigrants and send them on to Germany unless they comply with their demands
#195 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
It's been steadily worsening since 2007, of course it was better then.

As for who wants to destroy Greece, why don't you ask Germany about the Siemens scandal, the broken submarines, and the WW2 reparations they owe us. There's also those who want to see the Euro destroyed. Also, they're not giving money to Greece, the people never saw (or benefited from) a single Euro. It's all changing hands between important people for the sake of their plans, whatever they are.

And the EU is making it impossible for Greece to cooperate. They see that the current situation is destroying any prospect of improvement, and they're demanding even more.
#196 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
Oh come on, the WW2 reparations thing is a joke. And Siemens and German companies =/= German and EU government. And the German government wants to stay in the Euro, although there is a new party gaining followers that wants to exit the Euro, precisely because Germany has to pay for everyone else.

Of course it's not the people getting the money, the people aren't the ones who has to pay back the debt, that's the greek government, and they get the money to pay back (part of) the debt they owe to other people who aren't as kind as the EU and are willing to give them more time. You're really starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist.

Actually - like I've said before - the situation was improving and Greece was making a budget surplus before the current government decided to stop all the good things and started spending even more money!

And how is the EU demanding anything, it's Greece who wants money from the EU
#197 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
-Jokes don't last 65 years.
-If you think major companies and governments aren't equally important, you haven't figured out how the world works. Why do you think the EU is trying to force terms that will make their "loans" literally impossible to be repaid?
-Germany doesn't want to destroy the Euro, just Greece. Others want the former.
-Dismissing anyone who disagrees with what you heard on the TV as a "conspiracy theorist" is pretty low-class. Think for yourself once in a while.
-As I said before (from personal experience, and not from what I heard on the TV) the situation was not improving at all. I described why in detail, in #193.
-The EU is demanding more austerity measures, as I (again) just described in my two previous posts. Please read what you're responding to, don't just repeat things you heard. It makes you look dumb.
#198 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
-And how would Germany get it's money back if Greece was destroyed? That's not what Germany wants
-The only way the loans will ever be repaid is if Greece actually stops spending money, and the austerity measures would help with that. Giving Greece more and more money is not a solution because it will just be spent again unless they start saving
-Claiming that the EU wants to destroy Greece does sound like a conspiracy theory, why would they want that when it only has a negative impact on the rest of the EU (just look at what the euro is worth now). The EU is trying to help
-The situation was improving because there was a budget surplus. Have enpough surplus and you can start paying your creditors back, and the whole crisis would be solved.
-I know they are demanding austerity measures, but only as exchange for giving Greece more money. Greece is demanding more money for free. No need to start calling me names
#199 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
-Greece has important natural resources, and can also become a source of cheap labor if enslaved. That's what Germany wants.
-As I said before, Greece isn't spending that money you're talking about, it's just changing hands between important people. Don't make me repeat what I already said, it makes you look dumb.
-Did I say it's the EU that wants to destroy the Euro? You need to read a bit more carefully. Also, forcing impossible terms isn't "helping".
-I'm sure that's what you're told, but you need to read #193 again. Many times, perhaps.
-I just described why giving more money and forcing terms that make the loan impossible to repay is simply destructive. And you can try actually reading what you reply to if you want to be treated like you're smart.
#200 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
-Really? Germany wants to enslave Greece? This is getting ridiculous...
btw Germany has enough cheap labour with all the immigrants, and if Greece really has such special resources that they are worth the billions Germany is donating to Greece, then why doesn't Greece just use them to pay off the debt?
-I know that, it's paying off it's debt with the IMF for example. But that cycle will continue for ever unless Greece starts saving. You are making me repeat everything, and stop being so aggressive
-The terms are not impossible, Portugal and the other countries managed just fine.
-Well what do you think the Eu should do then? Just donate money to Greece for ever? And like I said, the only way the loans will ever be repaid is if Greece actually starts saving. Of course I'm reading what you are writing, it is just hard to take it seriously when you are claiming Germany is trying to enslave and destroy Greece
#201 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
-The only ridiculous thing here is the way I need to repeat things over and over because you don't read what you respond to.
-Greece can't use those resources, especially oil, because a) until now we were constantly told by corrupt politicians that we don't have any, and b) if we start using them, half the world will declare war against us to steal them, as has been the case with other countries.
-The cycle will be broken if a) other countries stop interfering with things like the Siemens scandal, the faulty submarines, forcing us into the Euro, threatening politicians who try to improve the situation etc. and let us take advantage of our resources. Also, claiming that I'm making you repeat things is just silly at this point. How many times did I direct you to previous posts you hadn't read? Try counting.
-Portugal and the other countries aren't under the international pressure Greece is, their politicians aren't under direct control from other countries, and there's also the matter of WW2 reparations.
-Germany already tried to enslave Greece twice, only with military force instead of economy, do you honestly think that trying a third time is so unlikely? As for what EU should do, see above. You should try not thinking like a sheep if you don't want to be treated like one.
#203 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
Just looked at your profile and realized I spent half the evening responding to probably a troll account. great
#204 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
You're either ignoring everything I say, or dismissing it as "conspiracy theories". I had to repeat things over and over because you can't read. And after that, you call me a troll? Quite the comedian, aren't you? If you actually read my comments, you'll see that most of them get green thumbs, and the only red ones are from defending my country against retarded accusations from angry Germans or people like you who don't like seeing what the media fed them being proven wrong.

And I like how you're claiming that wars over oil are somehow odd or unusual. I'm curious, how were you raised?
#202 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
Okay this will be my last response to you. You're seriously comparing today's Germany to Nazi Germany, and you are claiming the world will invade Greece if they start using their oil. You are just deluded by the Greek anti-german propaganda and can't deal with the fact that the current situation is entirely Greece's fault.
Good night
#172 - Actually, the average person in Greece is richer than in most …  [+] (16 new replies) 07/01/2015 on Can the internet save Greece? +1
#177 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
You seem to have ignored what I just told you. The rich are very, very few, most people are struggling. We've always paid taxes, as I just explained and you ignored, and it's even worse now; even the people who own houses see it as a huge burden, because of the insane taxation. Bribery is the same as every other country, we didn't invent it or something.

Stop blindly believing everything the media tells you.
#181 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
still, compared to most other european countries, the average greek person is richer. It's just that only now that they actually have to pay taxes and they see how hard it is in literally every other country they complain.

euobserver.com/economic/119751 average German household wealth is 50000€, while the Greek is 100000€!
#187 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
There can't be a "still" when you're ignoring everything I'm telling you, can there? I'd love to see that 100000, but I'm not seeing it anywhere. And for the third time, we've always paid taxes. Try actually reading what I wrote above.

The reason we're complaining is that not only are the current measures making it impossible to see any sort of improvement, we're being asked to shoulder more. And that's impossible. Stop devouring everything they feed you.
#190 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
Well obviously a lot of Greek have not always been paying their debts, otherwise there wouldnt be 80 billion missing. I'm not saying that you and your family haven't been paying taxes, just that it appears to be more widespread in Greece than elsewhere.

And there actually was a lot of improvement and the economy was starting to recover before the current government was elected and started pissing off the rest of Europe
#193 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
I literally just explained to you where those claims of 80 billion are coming from. See post >>#169.

The economy was not improving, I'm sure that's what they were telling you, but the economy was stagnating. People were afraid of the constantly changing laws, to the degree that many deposited their money in foreign banks in fear of the government suddenly coming up with some new law and stealing them. (And they were right, to an extent, as I described.) Everyone was afraid to spend anything, because of the austerity measures and the way things kept changing every day, and everything was brought to a standstill.

And of course the previous governments didn't piss of Europe, they were obeying their every command. Who do you think came up with the plan to destroy Greece in this way?
#194 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
well the economy sure was better than it is now
and why the fuck would the EU want to destroy Greece? They are the ones saving it over and over again and giving them money even though everybody knows it will never be paid back. Typical conspiracy theory bullshit
Just look at portugal, spain and ireland. They were in similar situations to greece, but they actually worked together with the EU and fixed their deficit instead of threatening to annex the Goethe Institute or to accept all immigrants and send them on to Germany unless they comply with their demands
#195 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
It's been steadily worsening since 2007, of course it was better then.

As for who wants to destroy Greece, why don't you ask Germany about the Siemens scandal, the broken submarines, and the WW2 reparations they owe us. There's also those who want to see the Euro destroyed. Also, they're not giving money to Greece, the people never saw (or benefited from) a single Euro. It's all changing hands between important people for the sake of their plans, whatever they are.

And the EU is making it impossible for Greece to cooperate. They see that the current situation is destroying any prospect of improvement, and they're demanding even more.
#196 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
Oh come on, the WW2 reparations thing is a joke. And Siemens and German companies =/= German and EU government. And the German government wants to stay in the Euro, although there is a new party gaining followers that wants to exit the Euro, precisely because Germany has to pay for everyone else.

Of course it's not the people getting the money, the people aren't the ones who has to pay back the debt, that's the greek government, and they get the money to pay back (part of) the debt they owe to other people who aren't as kind as the EU and are willing to give them more time. You're really starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist.

Actually - like I've said before - the situation was improving and Greece was making a budget surplus before the current government decided to stop all the good things and started spending even more money!

And how is the EU demanding anything, it's Greece who wants money from the EU
#197 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
-Jokes don't last 65 years.
-If you think major companies and governments aren't equally important, you haven't figured out how the world works. Why do you think the EU is trying to force terms that will make their "loans" literally impossible to be repaid?
-Germany doesn't want to destroy the Euro, just Greece. Others want the former.
-Dismissing anyone who disagrees with what you heard on the TV as a "conspiracy theorist" is pretty low-class. Think for yourself once in a while.
-As I said before (from personal experience, and not from what I heard on the TV) the situation was not improving at all. I described why in detail, in #193.
-The EU is demanding more austerity measures, as I (again) just described in my two previous posts. Please read what you're responding to, don't just repeat things you heard. It makes you look dumb.
#198 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
-And how would Germany get it's money back if Greece was destroyed? That's not what Germany wants
-The only way the loans will ever be repaid is if Greece actually stops spending money, and the austerity measures would help with that. Giving Greece more and more money is not a solution because it will just be spent again unless they start saving
-Claiming that the EU wants to destroy Greece does sound like a conspiracy theory, why would they want that when it only has a negative impact on the rest of the EU (just look at what the euro is worth now). The EU is trying to help
-The situation was improving because there was a budget surplus. Have enpough surplus and you can start paying your creditors back, and the whole crisis would be solved.
-I know they are demanding austerity measures, but only as exchange for giving Greece more money. Greece is demanding more money for free. No need to start calling me names
#199 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
-Greece has important natural resources, and can also become a source of cheap labor if enslaved. That's what Germany wants.
-As I said before, Greece isn't spending that money you're talking about, it's just changing hands between important people. Don't make me repeat what I already said, it makes you look dumb.
-Did I say it's the EU that wants to destroy the Euro? You need to read a bit more carefully. Also, forcing impossible terms isn't "helping".
-I'm sure that's what you're told, but you need to read #193 again. Many times, perhaps.
-I just described why giving more money and forcing terms that make the loan impossible to repay is simply destructive. And you can try actually reading what you reply to if you want to be treated like you're smart.
#200 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
-Really? Germany wants to enslave Greece? This is getting ridiculous...
btw Germany has enough cheap labour with all the immigrants, and if Greece really has such special resources that they are worth the billions Germany is donating to Greece, then why doesn't Greece just use them to pay off the debt?
-I know that, it's paying off it's debt with the IMF for example. But that cycle will continue for ever unless Greece starts saving. You are making me repeat everything, and stop being so aggressive
-The terms are not impossible, Portugal and the other countries managed just fine.
-Well what do you think the Eu should do then? Just donate money to Greece for ever? And like I said, the only way the loans will ever be repaid is if Greece actually starts saving. Of course I'm reading what you are writing, it is just hard to take it seriously when you are claiming Germany is trying to enslave and destroy Greece
#201 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
-The only ridiculous thing here is the way I need to repeat things over and over because you don't read what you respond to.
-Greece can't use those resources, especially oil, because a) until now we were constantly told by corrupt politicians that we don't have any, and b) if we start using them, half the world will declare war against us to steal them, as has been the case with other countries.
-The cycle will be broken if a) other countries stop interfering with things like the Siemens scandal, the faulty submarines, forcing us into the Euro, threatening politicians who try to improve the situation etc. and let us take advantage of our resources. Also, claiming that I'm making you repeat things is just silly at this point. How many times did I direct you to previous posts you hadn't read? Try counting.
-Portugal and the other countries aren't under the international pressure Greece is, their politicians aren't under direct control from other countries, and there's also the matter of WW2 reparations.
-Germany already tried to enslave Greece twice, only with military force instead of economy, do you honestly think that trying a third time is so unlikely? As for what EU should do, see above. You should try not thinking like a sheep if you don't want to be treated like one.
#203 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
Just looked at your profile and realized I spent half the evening responding to probably a troll account. great
#204 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
You're either ignoring everything I say, or dismissing it as "conspiracy theories". I had to repeat things over and over because you can't read. And after that, you call me a troll? Quite the comedian, aren't you? If you actually read my comments, you'll see that most of them get green thumbs, and the only red ones are from defending my country against retarded accusations from angry Germans or people like you who don't like seeing what the media fed them being proven wrong.

And I like how you're claiming that wars over oil are somehow odd or unusual. I'm curious, how were you raised?
#202 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
Okay this will be my last response to you. You're seriously comparing today's Germany to Nazi Germany, and you are claiming the world will invade Greece if they start using their oil. You are just deluded by the Greek anti-german propaganda and can't deal with the fact that the current situation is entirely Greece's fault.
Good night
#163 - But in Greece lots of people don't pay taxes, and the governme…  [+] (18 new replies) 07/01/2015 on Can the internet save Greece? +1
#169 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
That's what the media has told you. What they haven't told you is that, under EU orders, taxation in Greece has been utterly insane in the past few years. They would literally come up with new and illegal taxes every day, empty people's bank accounts by force when they couldn't pay them (because e.g. they wanted to feed their children) and then they'd whine that "oh, it's not our fault, the people are not paying". I mean, what were they going to say? "Sorries, we drove the country into the ground"? Of course they'll blame it on the people.

An acquaintenance of mine was told to pay thousands of Euros in taxes because his mother had a good business year 15 years ago. I don't think you realize how ridiculous the situation is, and how much misinformation has been reported outside, and that's not even the tip of the iceberg. Greece is under worldwide misinformation warfare.
#172 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
Actually, the average person in Greece is richer than in most other EU countries - even Germany, which has way higher taxes - because they don't pay their taxes. Nearly everyone in Greece has their own house, because there are loopholes for not paying any taxes when the house is still under construction, so they claim it's not finished and don't pay taxes. Meanwhile in Germany, almost nobody can afford to buy/build a house and most people rent. The ECB did a study on this, and they conveniently delayed publishing the results because they wanted to send Greece more money first and knew the public opinion would not allow that, had they known.

Basically, the Greek have gotten away with not paying taxes, bribing government officials for decades, and now that they have to actually pay taxes they protest and blame Germany
#177 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
You seem to have ignored what I just told you. The rich are very, very few, most people are struggling. We've always paid taxes, as I just explained and you ignored, and it's even worse now; even the people who own houses see it as a huge burden, because of the insane taxation. Bribery is the same as every other country, we didn't invent it or something.

Stop blindly believing everything the media tells you.
#181 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
still, compared to most other european countries, the average greek person is richer. It's just that only now that they actually have to pay taxes and they see how hard it is in literally every other country they complain.

euobserver.com/economic/119751 average German household wealth is 50000€, while the Greek is 100000€!
#187 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
There can't be a "still" when you're ignoring everything I'm telling you, can there? I'd love to see that 100000, but I'm not seeing it anywhere. And for the third time, we've always paid taxes. Try actually reading what I wrote above.

The reason we're complaining is that not only are the current measures making it impossible to see any sort of improvement, we're being asked to shoulder more. And that's impossible. Stop devouring everything they feed you.
#190 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
Well obviously a lot of Greek have not always been paying their debts, otherwise there wouldnt be 80 billion missing. I'm not saying that you and your family haven't been paying taxes, just that it appears to be more widespread in Greece than elsewhere.

And there actually was a lot of improvement and the economy was starting to recover before the current government was elected and started pissing off the rest of Europe
#193 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
I literally just explained to you where those claims of 80 billion are coming from. See post >>#169.

The economy was not improving, I'm sure that's what they were telling you, but the economy was stagnating. People were afraid of the constantly changing laws, to the degree that many deposited their money in foreign banks in fear of the government suddenly coming up with some new law and stealing them. (And they were right, to an extent, as I described.) Everyone was afraid to spend anything, because of the austerity measures and the way things kept changing every day, and everything was brought to a standstill.

And of course the previous governments didn't piss of Europe, they were obeying their every command. Who do you think came up with the plan to destroy Greece in this way?
#194 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
well the economy sure was better than it is now
and why the fuck would the EU want to destroy Greece? They are the ones saving it over and over again and giving them money even though everybody knows it will never be paid back. Typical conspiracy theory bullshit
Just look at portugal, spain and ireland. They were in similar situations to greece, but they actually worked together with the EU and fixed their deficit instead of threatening to annex the Goethe Institute or to accept all immigrants and send them on to Germany unless they comply with their demands
#195 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
It's been steadily worsening since 2007, of course it was better then.

As for who wants to destroy Greece, why don't you ask Germany about the Siemens scandal, the broken submarines, and the WW2 reparations they owe us. There's also those who want to see the Euro destroyed. Also, they're not giving money to Greece, the people never saw (or benefited from) a single Euro. It's all changing hands between important people for the sake of their plans, whatever they are.

And the EU is making it impossible for Greece to cooperate. They see that the current situation is destroying any prospect of improvement, and they're demanding even more.
#196 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
Oh come on, the WW2 reparations thing is a joke. And Siemens and German companies =/= German and EU government. And the German government wants to stay in the Euro, although there is a new party gaining followers that wants to exit the Euro, precisely because Germany has to pay for everyone else.

Of course it's not the people getting the money, the people aren't the ones who has to pay back the debt, that's the greek government, and they get the money to pay back (part of) the debt they owe to other people who aren't as kind as the EU and are willing to give them more time. You're really starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist.

Actually - like I've said before - the situation was improving and Greece was making a budget surplus before the current government decided to stop all the good things and started spending even more money!

And how is the EU demanding anything, it's Greece who wants money from the EU
#197 - jamestitkov (07/01/2015) [-]
-Jokes don't last 65 years.
-If you think major companies and governments aren't equally important, you haven't figured out how the world works. Why do you think the EU is trying to force terms that will make their "loans" literally impossible to be repaid?
-Germany doesn't want to destroy the Euro, just Greece. Others want the former.
-Dismissing anyone who disagrees with what you heard on the TV as a "conspiracy theorist" is pretty low-class. Think for yourself once in a while.
-As I said before (from personal experience, and not from what I heard on the TV) the situation was not improving at all. I described why in detail, in #193.
-The EU is demanding more austerity measures, as I (again) just described in my two previous posts. Please read what you're responding to, don't just repeat things you heard. It makes you look dumb.
#198 - nob (07/01/2015) [-]
-And how would Germany get it's money back if Greece was destroyed? That's not what Germany wants
-The only way the loans will ever be repaid is if Greece actually stops spending money, and the austerity measures would help with that. Giving Greece more and more money is not a solution because it will just be spent again unless they start saving
-Claiming that the EU wants to destroy Greece does sound like a conspiracy theory, why would they want that when it only has a negative impact on the rest of the EU (just look at what the euro is worth now). The EU is trying to help
-The situation was improving because there was a budget surplus. Have enpough surplus and you can start paying your creditors back, and the whole crisis would be solved.
-I know they are demanding austerity measures, but only as exchange for giving Greece more money. Greece is demanding more money for free. No need to start calling me names
#199 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
-Greece has important natural resources, and can also become a source of cheap labor if enslaved. That's what Germany wants.
-As I said before, Greece isn't spending that money you're talking about, it's just changing hands between important people. Don't make me repeat what I already said, it makes you look dumb.
-Did I say it's the EU that wants to destroy the Euro? You need to read a bit more carefully. Also, forcing impossible terms isn't "helping".
-I'm sure that's what you're told, but you need to read #193 again. Many times, perhaps.
-I just described why giving more money and forcing terms that make the loan impossible to repay is simply destructive. And you can try actually reading what you reply to if you want to be treated like you're smart.
#200 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
-Really? Germany wants to enslave Greece? This is getting ridiculous...
btw Germany has enough cheap labour with all the immigrants, and if Greece really has such special resources that they are worth the billions Germany is donating to Greece, then why doesn't Greece just use them to pay off the debt?
-I know that, it's paying off it's debt with the IMF for example. But that cycle will continue for ever unless Greece starts saving. You are making me repeat everything, and stop being so aggressive
-The terms are not impossible, Portugal and the other countries managed just fine.
-Well what do you think the Eu should do then? Just donate money to Greece for ever? And like I said, the only way the loans will ever be repaid is if Greece actually starts saving. Of course I'm reading what you are writing, it is just hard to take it seriously when you are claiming Germany is trying to enslave and destroy Greece
#201 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
-The only ridiculous thing here is the way I need to repeat things over and over because you don't read what you respond to.
-Greece can't use those resources, especially oil, because a) until now we were constantly told by corrupt politicians that we don't have any, and b) if we start using them, half the world will declare war against us to steal them, as has been the case with other countries.
-The cycle will be broken if a) other countries stop interfering with things like the Siemens scandal, the faulty submarines, forcing us into the Euro, threatening politicians who try to improve the situation etc. and let us take advantage of our resources. Also, claiming that I'm making you repeat things is just silly at this point. How many times did I direct you to previous posts you hadn't read? Try counting.
-Portugal and the other countries aren't under the international pressure Greece is, their politicians aren't under direct control from other countries, and there's also the matter of WW2 reparations.
-Germany already tried to enslave Greece twice, only with military force instead of economy, do you honestly think that trying a third time is so unlikely? As for what EU should do, see above. You should try not thinking like a sheep if you don't want to be treated like one.
#203 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
Just looked at your profile and realized I spent half the evening responding to probably a troll account. great
#204 - jamestitkov (07/02/2015) [-]
You're either ignoring everything I say, or dismissing it as "conspiracy theories". I had to repeat things over and over because you can't read. And after that, you call me a troll? Quite the comedian, aren't you? If you actually read my comments, you'll see that most of them get green thumbs, and the only red ones are from defending my country against retarded accusations from angry Germans or people like you who don't like seeing what the media fed them being proven wrong.

And I like how you're claiming that wars over oil are somehow odd or unusual. I'm curious, how were you raised?
#202 - nob (07/02/2015) [-]
Okay this will be my last response to you. You're seriously comparing today's Germany to Nazi Germany, and you are claiming the world will invade Greece if they start using their oil. You are just deluded by the Greek anti-german propaganda and can't deal with the fact that the current situation is entirely Greece's fault.
Good night
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