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#23 - ilovehitler (19 hours ago) [-]
No... the point isn't to educate people. The point is to attempt and create guilt by giving information on the subject matter. What they were trying to say is "It's not just one or two chickens killed, it's millions!"
Secondly, the large majority of your comment is completely invalid due to that glorious example of a false analogy you got going on there. Spoiler alert, carnivores are not rapists.
Thirdly, you assume the base argument that eating meat is a bad thing. While I agree that we are eating too much meat, as our bodies were designed to eat a healthy mixture of plants and animals, with the majority of that being plants, saying one shouldn't eat meat is, well, simply incorrect. Our bodies are specifically meant to be able to eat and digest meat.
#25 - kanadetenshi (19 hours ago) [-]
Education is about giving information on the subject matter, so you're only proving my point.
Your second point is a strawman because you're assuming that rape and eating meat have to be equal to be a perfect analogy, which it doesn't. The analogy is valid because it shows that "acknowledging X doesn't make me stop doing X" isn't a good argument.
Third, that is indeed the base argument because it's based on facts. If you hold any form of morality based on the well being of someone else then you cannot possibly justify the harm of animals, the entire idea that animals do not deserve the right to life and prohibition of torture is one based on pure speciesism.
As for your meat claim we can get the same nutrients from meat out of other products and millions of vegetarians and vegans have a perfectly healthy life including vegan bodybuilders. The assumptions that we need to eat meat is a false one and is merely a poor justification to avoid responsibility.
#33 - ilovehitler (19 hours ago) [-]
You seem to be misunderstanding my initial statement, whether it's intentionally or not I do not know. The intention of the picture, at least the primary one, is not to educate. It's to create guilt in an an attempt to achieve their goals.
And it's not that it has to be an perfect analogy at all. Once again, you misunderstand me. I feel as if it's intentional at this point. You're trying to use an argument purely of emotion- by relating carnivores/omnivores to rapists, you're attempting to make them look like criminals.
No, it's not based on facts at all. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of facts. It's based purely and solely on emotional appeal. Of course I would not feel the same feelings for an animal as I do humans. For instance, I have no intention to mate or marry an animal. Here, once more, you argue as if I said something differently. I do not say we should eat as much meat as we do, which would therefore entail less mass production of meat, thus causing the admittedly cruel methods of farmers to be unneeded and unused.
You're right, we CAN get the same nutrients from other products. I didn't dispute that- technology has come far enough that we can do that. And further, I didn't say we needed to eat meat- I said we are fully able to and it is in no way a criminal act.
Now, consider this. As technology with cell growth becomes more and more advanced, we are able to get meat without the need to kill animals. Many months ago, in fact, I listened to the radio broadcast of people eating meat obtained through such methods. If we continue to eat meat as we do, we will, in fact, begin to save animals over time, as if we did not eat meat, the technology would not be focused on making meat. Thus, there would still be millions, if not billions, of people who kill animals for their meat.
#36 - kanadetenshi (19 hours ago) [-]
The point of the argument wasn't to relate meat eaters to rapists, but rather to show why the argument is not a valid argument. You are the one misunderstanding me making your statements rather hypocritical.
It's rarely based on emotional appeal, the principle of animal ethics is rooted in some of the most important and foundational philosophies we know including Deontology and Utilitarianism. In fac the premise of animal rights is based on pure logic. If it is accepted as morally wrong to deliberately inflict suffering upon innocent human creatures, then it is only logical to also regard it as wrong to inflict suffering on innocent individuals of other species. And by eating meat you are supporting the harm of animals (which is inevitable in farms) and taking their lives when it's not based on mercy killing but purely for selfish gain.
Just because we are able and just because it's not regarded as a criminal act doesn't mean that it's justified or okay. The same argument could've been made in favor of slavery.
If we are able to get meat through these methods which vegans and vegetarians strongly support by the way, then eating meat is justifiable, your argument is very piss-poor though, you're basically saying if we don't eat meat we will eat meat.
The purpose of what you are talking about is based on replacing the cruel methods, since people will always eat meat, the purpose is not for people to start eating meat again but to replace the method whereby people will eat meat. But until this method is fully developed i will refuse to eat meat because i'm not supporting murderers.
#24 - ilovehitler (19 hours ago) [-]
To elaborate on my first sentence, it's pretty easy to tell that they're not just giving information due to the word choice. They use words such as brother, sister, and fellow to convey a sense of goodness and familial ties in an attempt to create sympathy. Alternatively, they use words such as slaughter to convey a sense of evil and moral wrongdoing.
#27 - kanadetenshi (19 hours ago) [-]
Oh but ofcourse, because using the word slaughter in a topic that involves slaughter is obviously mere rhetoric. Next time you're trying to tell people that saying 1+1=2 isn't educational in math because it's a word choice based on an objective understanding of math.
#34 - ilovehitler (19 hours ago) [-]
Tell me, do you intentionally misinterpret every single thing I say, or is it natural to you? Using the word slaughter in a topic that involves killing is specifically meant to appeal to emotions. Using your math example, it would be to say that as 2X/X equals 2, the equation is demonstrating a cruel and intentional obliteration of X, a genocide of variables.
#37 - kanadetenshi (19 hours ago) [-]
slaugh·ter [slaw-ter] Show IPA
the killing or butchering of cattle, sheep, etc., especially for food.
Using the word slaughter in a topic that involves slaughter is meant to talk about slaughter. If you dislike this fact feel free to go to the goverment to change the definition of slaughter but using a word for the purpose it's used for is in no way an appeal to emotion.
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