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#89 - if you're doing your good mornings with your upper back you're…  [+] (8 new replies) 10/23/2014 on Crossfit 0
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#94 - clannadqs (10/23/2014) [-]
People new to lifting should keep away from GMs for a while anyways. Not really something you just jump into when you probably can't even bench properly at that point. Also, I don't see how you believe he is doing this lift with his upper back. No matter how much bend you have on GMs you're always going to be feeling it in your lower back and glutes. He bends his knees properly, keeps a flat base, and is not horrible with his back. As I have said before, we don't know the context here. Could be his fifth set and he is tired. Granted that is not an excuse for improper form, you sometimes can't avoid it. Sometimes your back will round when pulling heavy, sometimes you might flare your elbows on a set of bench, sometimes you might come to far forward on a squat and turn it into a haggard GM. I will openly say it here though, I would correct that guy if he was with me, but it seriously isn't anything to fret over in the immediate future. It's lightweight and he isn't doing anything other than something that might cause a light overuse issue a few months down the road.
#97 - ncsutroll (10/23/2014) [-]
last thing i will say about it. stand and go through your usual GM process. Good form straight back slow motion good stretch etc. then I want you to duplicate what this jackhole is doing in his video. bend quickly to about 20-30 degrees in your hamstrings and jolt up pressing through your upper body bringing your core and legs in as a second thought. If those two actions feel the same to you something is wrong..

at the same time something that may just cause slight overuse over time can also end up with somebody throwing their back out first try. Lift as you will I do not judge but don't preach poor form and stuff people just randomly make up like the misuse of this legpress as "okay" or "something everybody does" because it halfway resembles a lift done in a different environment.
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#102 - clannadqs (10/23/2014) [-]
I think you're confusing me for someone who is promoting this man. I, in no way, promote using machines at all. The leg press is bad even if it is used properly.
#103 - ncsutroll (10/23/2014) [-]
we're on the same page then. lot of people on here look at threads like this and if they see somebody that sounds like they know saying its okay, some kid that has never really lifted and doesn't know any better might go try it and get hurt. As far as starting with his back just watch in slow motion and he begins pushing up top at the very beginning of his rep, he's pushing up to overcompensate the plate-style machine vs a barbell. that's where the unnecessary back stress comes in to play
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#104 - clannadqs (10/23/2014) [-]
I see what you're referring to, but I'm just saying his is the best one on this comp, in my opinion. I also see what your point is about new guys going out and maybe trying this, but I don't believe anyone is that stupid. Most people do their research before heading to the gym for the first time and don't go outside of their limits. Normally stages to progression from a new lifter as well:

1. Starts with curling and bench for almost a year
2. Realize that was stupid and add some machines for lower body
3. Realize that was stupid and start doing proper free weight lifts, but light
4. Get more into it and hopefully has proper form.

Haha, I've hardly ever seen anyone come flying into the gym their first time and say,"Yo mane, I want to hit up dat lower back and legs."
#105 - ncsutroll (10/23/2014) [-]
last couple years i've seen more of it than I care to and we're right around the corner from all the horrible "resolutioners" in january.. just never know anymore
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#106 - clannadqs (10/23/2014) [-]
I feel you. I was lucky enough to have amazing strength coaches in high school that actually cared about us.
#107 - ncsutroll (10/23/2014) [-]
as was I. unfortunately most people haven't had that benefit
#88 - bro. watch the bend as he pushes up. that's putting the entire…  [+] (3 new replies) 10/23/2014 on Crossfit 0
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#93 - clannadqs (10/23/2014) [-]
His back is not bent too drastically. It's still his lower back bringing the weight back up. Also, most lifters know that a slight arch in your upper back is not a problem at all. The problem comes from an arch in your lower back. This guy's lower back is completely fine in this gif. Hell, he even took his shoes off to keep a flat base even with next to no weight. Seriously though, go watch Candito's video on deadlifts and you can clearly hear him commenting on this. As I said, this guy does not have beautiful form, but it isn't something he will have to worry about immediately.
#95 - ncsutroll (10/23/2014) [-]
"isn't something to worry about immediately" - if you're ever doing a lift and this is your thought pattern that's a problem son. think about your angles between these two lifts you are comparing. during your good morning you are keeping a flat back, lowering slowly to get the most of your stretch, and then raising using your glutes hams and lower back to keep everything straight. What this guy is doing is lowering quickly and then raising first with his upper back THEN following through with his core. watch it slowly, his initial push is with his upper body and he is not returning to full standing position as you would with your good mornings. form is not always gonna be perfect but this guy is in no way getting the benefits of an "improvised GM"
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#98 - clannadqs (10/23/2014) [-]
That's not my thought process. I know how to lift man. Hopefully I will be able to compete by the end of next year, but due to being in the National Guard I have to devote a portion of my year to cardio for an APFT (test). What I meant from "isn't something to worry about immediately" was a direct response to those that are freaking out and saying," One wrong move and snap". That won't happen and you know it. I'm pretty open about it man, I don't agree with what he is doing, but if he is only doing this once a week there will be no injury until he gets older and by that point he probably won't be doing GMs. I also am confused on how you think you can initiate the lift from the bottom with your upper back with the angles he has. Like I have said, he doesn't have perfect form here and I would correct him if he was doing this with me, but he is not initiating coming back up with only his upper back. That would be almost impossible and I would love for you to do only one GM with how his back is positioned and claim you started coming back up with mostly your upper back. I agree with you though, he isn't getting the proper benefits from doing a GM because it isn't free weight, he is going light, and he doesn't have proper form, but my original point was this was the probably the only one on the comp that didn't make me entirely cringe. Another thing to add to this, don't do GMs like the girl in the photo either. If you want a proper GM without having to worry about changing direction (which is bad for you the heavier you go) then set the safety bars up on the rack to the height you would normally change directions at and start from the bottom. That's what I do when I do GMs. I start from the rack, stand up, set it back down. This way I can go much heavier and start with proper form. It's normally what Powerlifters do.
#144 - enjoy your pepper spray 10/23/2014 on bullshit you a nigga +3
#106 - most carry weapons don't even utilize safeties anymore and wha… 10/16/2014 on soccer mom story +1
#134 - id love to be that optimistic but you have 20 people in a poor…  [+] (1 new reply) 08/29/2014 on It only works one way +1
#136 - tugaii (08/29/2014) [-]
They probably are but until their is supporting evidence it is still speculation. Yes i think we should hold anyone who lives of the government be it in the form of a salary or welfare to a higher standard.
#131 - really? they aren't funded by taxpayers? how bout dem welfare …  [+] (3 new replies) 08/29/2014 on It only works one way +2
#132 - tugaii (08/29/2014) [-]
Although likely it is speculation.
#134 - ncsutroll (08/29/2014) [-]
id love to be that optimistic but you have 20 people in a poor area of mississippi where half of them probably can't read and they're ignorant enough to beat the hell out of a white person just for being there. Gonna go out on a limb that they aren't exactly upstanding citizens and most of them are probably unemployed or drug dealers
#136 - tugaii (08/29/2014) [-]
They probably are but until their is supporting evidence it is still speculation. Yes i think we should hold anyone who lives of the government be it in the form of a salary or welfare to a higher standard.
#171 - considering it'll be paid off within a couple years and it's c…  [+] (1 new reply) 08/29/2014 on I can see why even women... 0
#179 - anon (08/29/2014) [-]
then quit bitching
#165 - that's what i get for trying to be funny. i'm good will keep m…  [+] (3 new replies) 08/29/2014 on I can see why even women... 0
#168 - anon (08/29/2014) [-]
so you're saying...... college was worth it despite the debt?
#171 - ncsutroll (08/29/2014) [-]
considering it'll be paid off within a couple years and it's comparable to a car payment, yes
#179 - anon (08/29/2014) [-]
then quit bitching
#163 - see college attended swell with debt  [+] (5 new replies) 08/29/2014 on I can see why even women... +3
#164 - anon (08/29/2014) [-]
If you don't want debt, don't go to college.
#165 - ncsutroll (08/29/2014) [-]
that's what i get for trying to be funny. i'm good will keep my job that i started a month post-grad
#168 - anon (08/29/2014) [-]
so you're saying...... college was worth it despite the debt?
#171 - ncsutroll (08/29/2014) [-]
considering it'll be paid off within a couple years and it's comparable to a car payment, yes
#179 - anon (08/29/2014) [-]
then quit bitching
#67 - been witnesses that have sworn up and down both sides of the s… 08/24/2014 on DYK Comp #6 0