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#24 - >talking **** about dubs >with a pictur…  [+] (8 new replies) 07/07/2014 on Spelling +9
#32 - ehzio (07/07/2014) [-]
the dub version is horrible. Kamina sounds monotone as shit even when he's yelling and Simon to get Simon's dubbed voice, you might as well drop wood on a concrete floor because that's what it sounds like
User avatar #33 - nathanbiggs (07/07/2014) [-]
>the dub version is horrible
Couldn't be more wrong
>Kamina sounds monotone as shit even when he's yelling
Jap Kamina can yell a bit better, but English Kamina sounds much more inspirational and that's what the character was about at the end of the day.
>Simon to get Simon's dubbed voice, you might as well drop wood on a concrete floor because that's what it sounds like
This is just pretty clear bias. Yuri Lowenthal did a damn good job, he deserves much more respect for his role as Simon than that.
#25 - aerius (07/07/2014) [-]
I'm saying that even in good dubs there's always at least one character that has a voice so horrendously annoying that you want to punch them. I've seen dubs that get a few characters right, but for side-characters they tend to half-ass it.
Works on another level I guess since most of the people I know who don't watch subbed do so because there are too many words to read. xD
User avatar #27 - nathanbiggs (07/07/2014) [-]
>I'm saying that even in good dubs there's always at least one character that has a voice so horrendously annoying that you want to punch them
That's about 60-70% of female Japanese VA's, plus that's nearly entirely subjective.
>I've seen dubs that get a few characters right, but for side-characters they tend to half-ass it.
I can agree with that, but i'm sure that occurs on both sides.
>Works on another level I guess since most of the people I know who don't watch subbed do so because there are too many words to read.
I'd much rather watch a dub than a sub, and that has nothing to do with having to read the subtitles.
#29 - aerius (07/07/2014) [-]
The main reason I can't stand dubs is that it's the same 20-30 fuckers dubbing EVERY SINGLE GODDAM SERIES to English. They cba to hire new voice actors to portray characters accurately, and when they do get a good one it's purely because they happened to already have a VA whose voice was appropriate. Vic Magnogna and his pals pretty much ruined the whole idea of dubs for me even more than 4kids did. It's almost as bad as Jennifer Hale being in every videogame ever.
User avatar #30 - nathanbiggs (07/07/2014) [-]
>The main reason I can't stand dubs is that it's the same 20-30 fuckers dubbing EVERY SINGLE GODDAM SERIES to English.
As long as they're good VA's, that's not a problem for me. Plus with Netflix getting into the dubbing scene hopefully some new blood will be pumped into it.
>Vic Magnogna and his pals pretty much ruined the whole idea of dubs for me even more than 4kids did.
Vic Mignogna is very rarely in a main role anymore, and FMA was really one of the few animes that he helped dub where he voiced the main character. Johnny Yong Bosch would have been a much better example, but even he's starting to get less main roles.
#26 - anonymous (07/07/2014) [-]
>implying there aren't characters that are annoying and terrible sounding in subbed.
User avatar #28 - aerius (07/07/2014) [-]
Oh there totally are, but usually in anime you wouldn't want to watch anyway. But you just know that the 'murican dub studios will see that horrifically bad character and try and make it's terrible voice as accurate as possible, but end up making it many, many times worse.
#58 - Picture 07/07/2014 on Oh Boy PvP is so Fun! +1
#10 - It's fantastic 07/07/2014 on Spelling +1
#5 - >watching Space Dandy subbed  [+] (21 new replies) 07/07/2014 on Spelling +12
#23 - aerius (07/07/2014) [-]
>Watching anything dubbed
User avatar #39 - eiaisqzbsesb (07/12/2014) [-]
#24 - nathanbiggs (07/07/2014) [-]
>talking shit about dubs
>with a picture of an anime that is a shining example of how to do dubs right
You're a funny guy.
#32 - ehzio (07/07/2014) [-]
the dub version is horrible. Kamina sounds monotone as shit even when he's yelling and Simon to get Simon's dubbed voice, you might as well drop wood on a concrete floor because that's what it sounds like
User avatar #33 - nathanbiggs (07/07/2014) [-]
>the dub version is horrible
Couldn't be more wrong
>Kamina sounds monotone as shit even when he's yelling
Jap Kamina can yell a bit better, but English Kamina sounds much more inspirational and that's what the character was about at the end of the day.
>Simon to get Simon's dubbed voice, you might as well drop wood on a concrete floor because that's what it sounds like
This is just pretty clear bias. Yuri Lowenthal did a damn good job, he deserves much more respect for his role as Simon than that.
#25 - aerius (07/07/2014) [-]
I'm saying that even in good dubs there's always at least one character that has a voice so horrendously annoying that you want to punch them. I've seen dubs that get a few characters right, but for side-characters they tend to half-ass it.
Works on another level I guess since most of the people I know who don't watch subbed do so because there are too many words to read. xD
User avatar #27 - nathanbiggs (07/07/2014) [-]
>I'm saying that even in good dubs there's always at least one character that has a voice so horrendously annoying that you want to punch them
That's about 60-70% of female Japanese VA's, plus that's nearly entirely subjective.
>I've seen dubs that get a few characters right, but for side-characters they tend to half-ass it.
I can agree with that, but i'm sure that occurs on both sides.
>Works on another level I guess since most of the people I know who don't watch subbed do so because there are too many words to read.
I'd much rather watch a dub than a sub, and that has nothing to do with having to read the subtitles.
#29 - aerius (07/07/2014) [-]
The main reason I can't stand dubs is that it's the same 20-30 fuckers dubbing EVERY SINGLE GODDAM SERIES to English. They cba to hire new voice actors to portray characters accurately, and when they do get a good one it's purely because they happened to already have a VA whose voice was appropriate. Vic Magnogna and his pals pretty much ruined the whole idea of dubs for me even more than 4kids did. It's almost as bad as Jennifer Hale being in every videogame ever.
User avatar #30 - nathanbiggs (07/07/2014) [-]
>The main reason I can't stand dubs is that it's the same 20-30 fuckers dubbing EVERY SINGLE GODDAM SERIES to English.
As long as they're good VA's, that's not a problem for me. Plus with Netflix getting into the dubbing scene hopefully some new blood will be pumped into it.
>Vic Magnogna and his pals pretty much ruined the whole idea of dubs for me even more than 4kids did.
Vic Mignogna is very rarely in a main role anymore, and FMA was really one of the few animes that he helped dub where he voiced the main character. Johnny Yong Bosch would have been a much better example, but even he's starting to get less main roles.
#26 - anonymous (07/07/2014) [-]
>implying there aren't characters that are annoying and terrible sounding in subbed.
User avatar #28 - aerius (07/07/2014) [-]
Oh there totally are, but usually in anime you wouldn't want to watch anyway. But you just know that the 'murican dub studios will see that horrifically bad character and try and make it's terrible voice as accurate as possible, but end up making it many, many times worse.
User avatar #19 - astraea (07/07/2014) [-]
SPACEUUU DANNDYY!!!
User avatar #20 - astraea (07/07/2014) [-]
you dont get that shit in the dubbed version, so sub>dub yet again
User avatar #31 - nathanbiggs (07/07/2014) [-]
>implying Engrish is a good thing
User avatar #34 - astraea (07/07/2014) [-]
its super kuwaii as fuck
#16 - letrollzor (07/07/2014) [-]
Well I do watch it dubbed but gifs aren't funny if you can see what the characters are saying. faggot
User avatar #6 - danster (07/07/2014) [-]
The dub's that good?
User avatar #38 - zamka (07/07/2014) [-]
Yep, and it's a high quality one since it's aired on Adult Swim, I even dare to say that the dialogues sounds funnier in the dubbed version.
#10 - nathanbiggs (07/07/2014) [-]
It's fantastic
User avatar #9 - srskate (07/07/2014) [-]
Hell yeah! The voice perfectly fits dandy's behavior.
User avatar #7 - demonicdude (07/07/2014) [-]
It's one of the few I don't mind watching dubbed at least. Pretty funny.
#995868 - It was a complete step back in terms of nearly everything. A …  [+] (4 new replies) 07/05/2014 on Video Games Board - console... 0
User avatar #995874 - adunsaveme (07/05/2014) [-]
meh, I still found it fun

It's nowhere near as bad as it's being made out to be by some
User avatar #995889 - awesomanium (07/05/2014) [-]
Video game elitism
"Your opinion is wrong"
User avatar #995890 - adunsaveme (07/05/2014) [-]
just add an 'in my opinion' to the end of my posts you cheeky little shit
User avatar #995895 - awesomanium (07/05/2014) [-]
It's sad that you have to do that or you get attacked by someone who disagrees
#995859 - Just get the HD Collection, and if you like DMC3 get DMC4. Do…  [+] (7 new replies) 07/05/2014 on Video Games Board - console... 0
User avatar #995885 - awesomanium (07/05/2014) [-]
I found it fun
You can tell me why I should be wrong but you won't change my opinion
I understand that there was stuff wrong with it, I'm not saying that it's perfect, it's far from it. It is fun to play though, at least for me.
User avatar #995862 - adunsaveme (07/05/2014) [-]
the reboot wasn't that bad
#995868 - nathanbiggs (07/05/2014) [-]
It was a complete step back in terms of nearly everything. A worse engine that ran at sub-60 fps, a worse story that for some reason tried to be entirely too serious, combat that was basically Heavenly Sword with an edgy DMC skin, unnecessary design changes, an unnecessary change in back story, a worse combat system with a lot of what made the combat so complex from the last two games thrown out for no reason, and all of this combined to make for a game that didn't even sell half of what the last game did in the same time frame. It was a pointless endeavor, and even Capcom admits this. All of that on top of Ninja Theory and Game Reviewers a like trying to take the piss out of the original fans left a dirty taste in a lot of peoples mouths when it comes to this game.
User avatar #995874 - adunsaveme (07/05/2014) [-]
meh, I still found it fun

It's nowhere near as bad as it's being made out to be by some
User avatar #995889 - awesomanium (07/05/2014) [-]
Video game elitism
"Your opinion is wrong"
User avatar #995890 - adunsaveme (07/05/2014) [-]
just add an 'in my opinion' to the end of my posts you cheeky little shit
User avatar #995895 - awesomanium (07/05/2014) [-]
It's sad that you have to do that or you get attacked by someone who disagrees
#995855 - >people still think fans don't like Donte because of "…  [+] (1 new reply) 07/05/2014 on Video Games Board - console... 0
User avatar #995910 - awesomanium (07/06/2014) [-]
Sorry, I accidentally thumbed you down
I'm on my ipad so I sometimes hit stuff by accident
#113 - >All the psych-crap gets really old really quick Maybe … 07/05/2014 on Zone-Tan 0
#97 - They also cut out 90% of what made the anime good and just lef…  [+] (2 new replies) 07/05/2014 on Zone-Tan -1
User avatar #112 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
The fighting is all there should be there. All the psych-crap gets really old really quick
User avatar #113 - nathanbiggs (07/05/2014) [-]
>All the psych-crap gets really old really quick
Maybe for you, but for me it was what made the show great. If Evangelion was just a normal Mecha Anime it would have faded into the background like all the other Mecha Animes from the same time period.
#26 - Am I the only one that felt like Bioshock Infinite was massive…  [+] (14 new replies) 07/04/2014 on You are doing it right +32
#111 - Bloodgartham (07/05/2014) [-]
I agree. With Bioshock 1 (maybe 2), my first reaction was "I have to play this again on a harder difficulty and find everything!" - Infinite was more of a "I played it, it was fun, good ending, ok let's get the DLC so we can head back to Rapture!".

Infinite based itself more on the action I think, and it was really the ending (last couple of chapters) that saved it.
User avatar #89 - akkere (07/05/2014) [-]
I didn't understand why people made it out to be this fantastic game in terms of "OH IT MADE YOU THINK, IT WAS JUST SO MINDBLOWING WOW"
No, no it wasn't that mindblowing.
The game was pretentious garbage. It completely reeled on some randomly generated premise that Bioshock has parallel universes, something that was entirely plucked out of the asses of the devs at the last minute to sound like this intense grand scheme that was planned from the beginning. It wasn't.

You don't have to think that hard to realize Infinite doesn't deserve any amount of the accolades it received, and when you play the original demo that came out years before it's entrance, you realize the Developers actually went straight for something completely mediocre and hinged it on that sole "mindblowing ending", rather than actually keep consistent and develop a game that legitimately deserved 10/10s across the board.
User avatar #70 - sphincterface (07/05/2014) [-]
Well for for the first time in almost forever, someone finally made a game that was meant to make you think, but not piss you off while trying to figure it out like basically all of the Assassin's Creed games.

Big spoilers....


As for some of the questions on here, I don't have all of the answers, but I have some.

Booker and the AD thing on his hand. You don't exactly see a clothing store nearby, so I doubt he would be able to buy gloves. Also he gets stabbed in the hand with the AD mark, and it later gets wrapped so they couldn't see that. Even though a lot of people knew who he was already.

For Elizabeth's powers, I believe it was explained in the game when she was taken from Booker and lost her finger. Something about being physically in two universes at the same time did it. I think.

For Booker always having to die, you have to understand that in all of the universes, he still dies. Booker is always going to die.

The New York thing. For one, 1980's and why using Zeppelins? Not sure about that. But I do know that there was no real good defense against them...have you seen the technology Columbia had? They had rocket launchers, semi-automatic and fully automatic rifles, a giant metal bird that had a mind of its own, people who basically had fucking superpowers, and people who were half man and half machine. That was all 1914. Imagine how powerful they would be in the 1980's.

For Elizabeth becoming fully aware of everything. I believe that when the siphon was destroyed, she was able to reach her full potential in just one moment, and I believe when she had complete control of her full capabilites, everything just seemed to hit her at once and everything started to make sense in just one moment, that's how powerful she is without the siphon.

The rest I'm not too sure about, some of it is just simply the development of the game, even though they kinda did work on the game for a really long time, so they could have fixed all that.
#58 - vorarephilia (07/05/2014) [-]
I despise sounding like a 'gaming was better back in my day!' person.
but that's exactly what I am going to do.
I also hate long walls of text. but again, what the hell.

Bioshock Infinite shows IMO that modern gamers are starving for something to challenge them, both in story and gameplay. Imagine a game like Deus Ex being released today, I honestly don't know if modern gaming markets would be able to handle that.
After gaming went mainstream and became a way to cool down, people stopped wanting to go 'deep' with story and just... chill. Thus, 'popcorn' games were made to fill this demand.I call them popcorn as they are light, fluffy, but leave you hungry for more. CoD for instance. for all the hate it gets, it is still pretty fun, but the story is pretty light. If I am tired from a long day of work, I don't want to think hard about ethical dilemmas like in Spec Ops: The Line, I wanna shoot something. That is not necessarily a bad thing at all. Doom didn't have all that much of a story either, but it was loads of fun.
But as time has gone on, popcorn games have flooded the market. Bioshock blew the minds of modern gamers in the same way a bigmac would blow the mind of a north korean. We are starving for a good story and good gameplay to finally reunite.

also fuck multiplayer bullshit. I never liked LAN parties, so why should I be forced to play Co-op.
User avatar #81 - sliferzpwns (07/05/2014) [-]
Great explanation on modern gaming, but have you by any chance read any videogame books? the halo ones get pretty interesting if you enjoyed the games they go hand in hand.
#71 - holmesc (07/05/2014) [-]
"light and fluffy" because they leave you wanting more.

simple but excellent description of modern gaming.
User avatar #73 - vorarephilia (07/05/2014) [-]
Most. i think, Is Fallout New Vegas considered modern or is it dated?
well whatever.
I try not to be too biased and avoid nostalgia goggles.
But when Deus Ex, System Shock 2, and Half Life came out ~3 years of each other, it starts to get hard to not reminisce.
#80 - holmesc (07/05/2014) [-]
I'd say 60% which is well over the majority.
If it was 80% then i'd go crazy.
#43 - opsbuttbuddy (07/05/2014) [-]
your opinion is in conflict with my opinion
User avatar #37 - Epicgetguy (07/05/2014) [-]
I agree completely. I just felt like the story wasn't anything special and neither was the gameplay.
User avatar #31 - samxdaxman (07/05/2014) [-]
I agree. I enjoyed the setting and the art style, but the gameplay was so repetitive. I'd say an 7/10 is a good rating for it.
#30 - milvus (07/05/2014) [-]
well you are not forced to like just because the reviews are good. I personally liked the game just because of the ending and the art style, the gameplay was generic but thats just my opinion.
#41 - youxbarstard (07/05/2014) [-]
Seriously?
You liked it for the ending?
I liked it for the atmosphere that music provided tbh.
#50 - milvus (07/05/2014) [-]
yeah I liked I loved the atmospere too but the ending was mindblowing with all the lighthouses and everything and in my opinion that was cool.
#65 - You're slightly misinterpreting what instrumentality is. Huma…  [+] (8 new replies) 07/04/2014 on Zone-Tan 0
User avatar #67 - alphabetagama (07/04/2014) [-]
Eternal peace as one eh?
Still better than current world.

Which means we end our role as pawns in this game of chess of higher beings.
I like this ending better already!
User avatar #70 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
There are some movies, that cut out like 80% of the "Get in the fucking robot"/Depression dance of death. think they are called Evangelion 1.0/2.0/3.0 #rd one is weird though
User avatar #97 - nathanbiggs (07/05/2014) [-]
They also cut out 90% of what made the anime good and just left the action sequences, which rely too much on CGI. 1.11 was good, 2.22 was good aside from Mari and that god awful ending, and 3.33 does not have a dub released yet. They can't really compare to the original series, especially not the Original 25/26+EoE Aside from the quality of the dub, which has improved a lot.
User avatar #112 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
The fighting is all there should be there. All the psych-crap gets really old really quick
User avatar #113 - nathanbiggs (07/05/2014) [-]
>All the psych-crap gets really old really quick
Maybe for you, but for me it was what made the show great. If Evangelion was just a normal Mecha Anime it would have faded into the background like all the other Mecha Animes from the same time period.
User avatar #72 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
that would be 3rd
User avatar #71 - alphabetagama (07/05/2014) [-]
Isn't 1 recap of series then 2 is end of evangelion and 3 is "no homo"?
User avatar #73 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
1.0 and 2.0 were good. a whole lot better than the original series. And also you don't have to deal with the anticlimactic ending of the original series. Which was the biggest disappointment since Moses led his people into the "promised land" (a desert) for 40-odd years
#63 - Human unity, aka Instrumentality, is no progress. It's addres…  [+] (10 new replies) 07/04/2014 on Zone-Tan +1
User avatar #64 - alphabetagama (07/04/2014) [-]
When you are god there is no progress left because there is nothing left after perfection.
User avatar #65 - nathanbiggs (07/04/2014) [-]
You're slightly misinterpreting what instrumentality is. Humanity doesn't necessarily gain control of Lilith and become gods. Their souls just swish around in the LCL for eternity, exploring each other's minds. No happiness, no sadness, no human emotion. Lilith is then free to do her on thing. In this, there is no progress for humanity. We are just going back to where we came from.
User avatar #67 - alphabetagama (07/04/2014) [-]
Eternal peace as one eh?
Still better than current world.

Which means we end our role as pawns in this game of chess of higher beings.
I like this ending better already!
User avatar #70 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
There are some movies, that cut out like 80% of the "Get in the fucking robot"/Depression dance of death. think they are called Evangelion 1.0/2.0/3.0 #rd one is weird though
User avatar #97 - nathanbiggs (07/05/2014) [-]
They also cut out 90% of what made the anime good and just left the action sequences, which rely too much on CGI. 1.11 was good, 2.22 was good aside from Mari and that god awful ending, and 3.33 does not have a dub released yet. They can't really compare to the original series, especially not the Original 25/26+EoE Aside from the quality of the dub, which has improved a lot.
User avatar #112 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
The fighting is all there should be there. All the psych-crap gets really old really quick
User avatar #113 - nathanbiggs (07/05/2014) [-]
>All the psych-crap gets really old really quick
Maybe for you, but for me it was what made the show great. If Evangelion was just a normal Mecha Anime it would have faded into the background like all the other Mecha Animes from the same time period.
User avatar #72 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
that would be 3rd
User avatar #71 - alphabetagama (07/05/2014) [-]
Isn't 1 recap of series then 2 is end of evangelion and 3 is "no homo"?
User avatar #73 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
1.0 and 2.0 were good. a whole lot better than the original series. And also you don't have to deal with the anticlimactic ending of the original series. Which was the biggest disappointment since Moses led his people into the "promised land" (a desert) for 40-odd years
#58 - >Over first seven episodes biggest amount of character deve…  [+] (12 new replies) 07/04/2014 on Zone-Tan +1
User avatar #61 - alphabetagama (07/04/2014) [-]
My tolerance for BS from fictional characters is low. IRL I have moderate temper but human stupidity triggers my reaction.
Anyway. From my friends filling in on the subject it boils down to people not talking about their problems with others and most of them being cowards. General depression thread #infinitum.

Supposedly the end of evangelion has good music and visual. Hopefully it is true if I watch it because that is the only redeemable quality of it.
And dear god if the supposed ending is the choice of human unity or human diversity and shiji chooses human diversity I will be pissed. We could have had progress and evolution but he fucked us over.
User avatar #63 - nathanbiggs (07/04/2014) [-]
Human unity, aka Instrumentality, is no progress. It's addressed in the movie pretty heavily.
User avatar #64 - alphabetagama (07/04/2014) [-]
When you are god there is no progress left because there is nothing left after perfection.
User avatar #65 - nathanbiggs (07/04/2014) [-]
You're slightly misinterpreting what instrumentality is. Humanity doesn't necessarily gain control of Lilith and become gods. Their souls just swish around in the LCL for eternity, exploring each other's minds. No happiness, no sadness, no human emotion. Lilith is then free to do her on thing. In this, there is no progress for humanity. We are just going back to where we came from.
User avatar #67 - alphabetagama (07/04/2014) [-]
Eternal peace as one eh?
Still better than current world.

Which means we end our role as pawns in this game of chess of higher beings.
I like this ending better already!
User avatar #70 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
There are some movies, that cut out like 80% of the "Get in the fucking robot"/Depression dance of death. think they are called Evangelion 1.0/2.0/3.0 #rd one is weird though
User avatar #97 - nathanbiggs (07/05/2014) [-]
They also cut out 90% of what made the anime good and just left the action sequences, which rely too much on CGI. 1.11 was good, 2.22 was good aside from Mari and that god awful ending, and 3.33 does not have a dub released yet. They can't really compare to the original series, especially not the Original 25/26+EoE Aside from the quality of the dub, which has improved a lot.
User avatar #112 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
The fighting is all there should be there. All the psych-crap gets really old really quick
User avatar #113 - nathanbiggs (07/05/2014) [-]
>All the psych-crap gets really old really quick
Maybe for you, but for me it was what made the show great. If Evangelion was just a normal Mecha Anime it would have faded into the background like all the other Mecha Animes from the same time period.
User avatar #72 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
that would be 3rd
User avatar #71 - alphabetagama (07/05/2014) [-]
Isn't 1 recap of series then 2 is end of evangelion and 3 is "no homo"?
User avatar #73 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
1.0 and 2.0 were good. a whole lot better than the original series. And also you don't have to deal with the anticlimactic ending of the original series. Which was the biggest disappointment since Moses led his people into the "promised land" (a desert) for 40-odd years
#55 - >Unfortunately there is a limit to how much of a bitch the …  [+] (14 new replies) 07/04/2014 on Zone-Tan 0
User avatar #56 - alphabetagama (07/04/2014) [-]
>You sound like your limit was at 0 to begin with
Over first seven episodes biggest amount of character development was when he "saved" (read pulled out of the pilot capsule) the clone of his mum out of the mech.
That is it. He was still being a wimp about everything.
>not going to basic training after the first battle
Wrong words from my side. I meant actual boot camp. A lot of his issues could be solved with simple military training AND TALKING.
>abandoned by his dad
by age of 14 the kid should be fucking furious at his dad. At very least he would realize by now that his dad is an asshole. And that a lot of his issues can be talked through.

The things that don't add up the most is that some characters don't even talk to each other.

ALL he had TO DO was TALK with his dad. That would have solved a lot more problems then him bitching around on the battlefield.

>Trying to make him have a "normal" life even if he is one of only 3 people on planet that can control the mech.
>Not inflating his ego and making him a soldier.

His constant running away is what pisses me off. And when I am angry I can't watch the show. It took me two and a half weeks for 6 episodes because that is how much he pisses me off. I never wanted a fictional character more dead in my life than shinji.
User avatar #58 - nathanbiggs (07/04/2014) [-]
>Over first seven episodes biggest amount of character development was when he "saved" (read pulled out of the pilot capsule) the clone of his mum out of the mech.
That is it. He was still being a wimp about everything.
He's a 14 year old kid, not BigMan-McGruff. You're expecting way too much, plus he did more than that in just the 7 episodes
>I meant actual boot camp. A lot of his issues could be solved with simple military training AND TALKING.
Debatable, but considering what it actually takes for him to get over his mental issues, I doubt it.
>ALL he had TO DO was TALK with his dad. That would have solved a lot more problems then him bitching around on the battlefield.
He was probably afraid of his father, and afraid to attempt to talk out his issues with him. Considering how much alike they both are, that probably wouldn't have gotten anywhere anyway.
>Trying to make him have a "normal" life even if he is one of only 3 people on planet that can control the mech.
His whole class were possible candidates to be children, he was just one of the first couple of choices.
>Not inflating his ego and making him a soldier.
That goes completely against SEELE and Gendo's plans.
>His constant running away is what pisses me off. And when I am angry I can't watch the show. It took me two and a half weeks for 6 episodes because that is how much he pisses me off. I never wanted a fictional character more dead in my life than shinji.
You don't seem to have much patience.

User avatar #61 - alphabetagama (07/04/2014) [-]
My tolerance for BS from fictional characters is low. IRL I have moderate temper but human stupidity triggers my reaction.
Anyway. From my friends filling in on the subject it boils down to people not talking about their problems with others and most of them being cowards. General depression thread #infinitum.

Supposedly the end of evangelion has good music and visual. Hopefully it is true if I watch it because that is the only redeemable quality of it.
And dear god if the supposed ending is the choice of human unity or human diversity and shiji chooses human diversity I will be pissed. We could have had progress and evolution but he fucked us over.
User avatar #63 - nathanbiggs (07/04/2014) [-]
Human unity, aka Instrumentality, is no progress. It's addressed in the movie pretty heavily.
User avatar #64 - alphabetagama (07/04/2014) [-]
When you are god there is no progress left because there is nothing left after perfection.
User avatar #65 - nathanbiggs (07/04/2014) [-]
You're slightly misinterpreting what instrumentality is. Humanity doesn't necessarily gain control of Lilith and become gods. Their souls just swish around in the LCL for eternity, exploring each other's minds. No happiness, no sadness, no human emotion. Lilith is then free to do her on thing. In this, there is no progress for humanity. We are just going back to where we came from.
User avatar #67 - alphabetagama (07/04/2014) [-]
Eternal peace as one eh?
Still better than current world.

Which means we end our role as pawns in this game of chess of higher beings.
I like this ending better already!
User avatar #70 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
There are some movies, that cut out like 80% of the "Get in the fucking robot"/Depression dance of death. think they are called Evangelion 1.0/2.0/3.0 #rd one is weird though
User avatar #97 - nathanbiggs (07/05/2014) [-]
They also cut out 90% of what made the anime good and just left the action sequences, which rely too much on CGI. 1.11 was good, 2.22 was good aside from Mari and that god awful ending, and 3.33 does not have a dub released yet. They can't really compare to the original series, especially not the Original 25/26+EoE Aside from the quality of the dub, which has improved a lot.
User avatar #112 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
The fighting is all there should be there. All the psych-crap gets really old really quick
User avatar #113 - nathanbiggs (07/05/2014) [-]
>All the psych-crap gets really old really quick
Maybe for you, but for me it was what made the show great. If Evangelion was just a normal Mecha Anime it would have faded into the background like all the other Mecha Animes from the same time period.
User avatar #72 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
that would be 3rd
User avatar #71 - alphabetagama (07/05/2014) [-]
Isn't 1 recap of series then 2 is end of evangelion and 3 is "no homo"?
User avatar #73 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
1.0 and 2.0 were good. a whole lot better than the original series. And also you don't have to deal with the anticlimactic ending of the original series. Which was the biggest disappointment since Moses led his people into the "promised land" (a desert) for 40-odd years
#52 - >this **** tier anime... An anime as infl…  [+] (18 new replies) 07/04/2014 on Zone-Tan +2
User avatar #114 - thatguyontheright (07/30/2014) [-]
Influential doesn't mean it's good. Its mediocre at best...it's watchable but how it inspired future Mech Anime is beyond me.

It's only well known because the director had a nervous breakdown during production so he started putting in weird shit...and weeaboos claim the show is good because of it.
User avatar #115 - nathanbiggs (07/31/2014) [-]
>Influential doesn't mean it's good.
I agree
> Its mediocre at best...it's watchable but how it inspired future Mech Anime is beyond me.
I don't agree, I just watched it last year and it was still fantastic. End of Evangelion alone makes the series worth watching. Evangelion was a deconstruction of the mecha genre of the time, if you don't have experience with that genre obviously you aren't going to see why it was influential.
>It's only well known because the director had a nervous breakdown during production so he started putting in weird shit..
Anno's depression occurred prior to the production of NGE as far as I know. He did become disheartened by the current "otaku" scene that was developing and that influenced some of the messages in the later part of the series. Plus I honestly liked the weird shit, makes it stand out from the normal mecha anime of the time.
>.and weeaboos claim the show is good because of it.
Mostly people claim it's good because they like it, it is one of the better animes I've watched.
User avatar #54 - alphabetagama (07/04/2014) [-]
Unfortunately there is a limit to how much of a bitch the mc can be.
Shinji went not just over the limit, but the limit is 100 miles back.
>being a young teen
>not going to basic training after the first battle
>not having any sense of duty
>not being disciplined
faggot choices/10 for his life choises.
User avatar #55 - nathanbiggs (07/04/2014) [-]
>Unfortunately there is a limit to how much of a bitch the mc can be.
Shinji went not just over the limit, but the limit is 100 miles back.
You sound like your limit was at 0 to begin with. He's no where near that bad and most of the time at that point in the show Shinji's actions are pretty understandable.
>not going to basic training after the first battle
He did receive basic training
>not being disciplined
He's a 14 year old kid with mental issues that just had the weight of the world put on his shoulders. Cut the kid some fucking slack and actually understand his motivations.
User avatar #56 - alphabetagama (07/04/2014) [-]
>You sound like your limit was at 0 to begin with
Over first seven episodes biggest amount of character development was when he "saved" (read pulled out of the pilot capsule) the clone of his mum out of the mech.
That is it. He was still being a wimp about everything.
>not going to basic training after the first battle
Wrong words from my side. I meant actual boot camp. A lot of his issues could be solved with simple military training AND TALKING.
>abandoned by his dad
by age of 14 the kid should be fucking furious at his dad. At very least he would realize by now that his dad is an asshole. And that a lot of his issues can be talked through.

The things that don't add up the most is that some characters don't even talk to each other.

ALL he had TO DO was TALK with his dad. That would have solved a lot more problems then him bitching around on the battlefield.

>Trying to make him have a "normal" life even if he is one of only 3 people on planet that can control the mech.
>Not inflating his ego and making him a soldier.

His constant running away is what pisses me off. And when I am angry I can't watch the show. It took me two and a half weeks for 6 episodes because that is how much he pisses me off. I never wanted a fictional character more dead in my life than shinji.
User avatar #58 - nathanbiggs (07/04/2014) [-]
>Over first seven episodes biggest amount of character development was when he "saved" (read pulled out of the pilot capsule) the clone of his mum out of the mech.
That is it. He was still being a wimp about everything.
He's a 14 year old kid, not BigMan-McGruff. You're expecting way too much, plus he did more than that in just the 7 episodes
>I meant actual boot camp. A lot of his issues could be solved with simple military training AND TALKING.
Debatable, but considering what it actually takes for him to get over his mental issues, I doubt it.
>ALL he had TO DO was TALK with his dad. That would have solved a lot more problems then him bitching around on the battlefield.
He was probably afraid of his father, and afraid to attempt to talk out his issues with him. Considering how much alike they both are, that probably wouldn't have gotten anywhere anyway.
>Trying to make him have a "normal" life even if he is one of only 3 people on planet that can control the mech.
His whole class were possible candidates to be children, he was just one of the first couple of choices.
>Not inflating his ego and making him a soldier.
That goes completely against SEELE and Gendo's plans.
>His constant running away is what pisses me off. And when I am angry I can't watch the show. It took me two and a half weeks for 6 episodes because that is how much he pisses me off. I never wanted a fictional character more dead in my life than shinji.
You don't seem to have much patience.

User avatar #61 - alphabetagama (07/04/2014) [-]
My tolerance for BS from fictional characters is low. IRL I have moderate temper but human stupidity triggers my reaction.
Anyway. From my friends filling in on the subject it boils down to people not talking about their problems with others and most of them being cowards. General depression thread #infinitum.

Supposedly the end of evangelion has good music and visual. Hopefully it is true if I watch it because that is the only redeemable quality of it.
And dear god if the supposed ending is the choice of human unity or human diversity and shiji chooses human diversity I will be pissed. We could have had progress and evolution but he fucked us over.
User avatar #63 - nathanbiggs (07/04/2014) [-]
Human unity, aka Instrumentality, is no progress. It's addressed in the movie pretty heavily.
User avatar #64 - alphabetagama (07/04/2014) [-]
When you are god there is no progress left because there is nothing left after perfection.
User avatar #65 - nathanbiggs (07/04/2014) [-]
You're slightly misinterpreting what instrumentality is. Humanity doesn't necessarily gain control of Lilith and become gods. Their souls just swish around in the LCL for eternity, exploring each other's minds. No happiness, no sadness, no human emotion. Lilith is then free to do her on thing. In this, there is no progress for humanity. We are just going back to where we came from.
User avatar #67 - alphabetagama (07/04/2014) [-]
Eternal peace as one eh?
Still better than current world.

Which means we end our role as pawns in this game of chess of higher beings.
I like this ending better already!
User avatar #70 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
There are some movies, that cut out like 80% of the "Get in the fucking robot"/Depression dance of death. think they are called Evangelion 1.0/2.0/3.0 #rd one is weird though
User avatar #97 - nathanbiggs (07/05/2014) [-]
They also cut out 90% of what made the anime good and just left the action sequences, which rely too much on CGI. 1.11 was good, 2.22 was good aside from Mari and that god awful ending, and 3.33 does not have a dub released yet. They can't really compare to the original series, especially not the Original 25/26+EoE Aside from the quality of the dub, which has improved a lot.
User avatar #112 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
The fighting is all there should be there. All the psych-crap gets really old really quick
User avatar #113 - nathanbiggs (07/05/2014) [-]
>All the psych-crap gets really old really quick
Maybe for you, but for me it was what made the show great. If Evangelion was just a normal Mecha Anime it would have faded into the background like all the other Mecha Animes from the same time period.
User avatar #72 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
that would be 3rd
User avatar #71 - alphabetagama (07/05/2014) [-]
Isn't 1 recap of series then 2 is end of evangelion and 3 is "no homo"?
User avatar #73 - matamune (07/05/2014) [-]
1.0 and 2.0 were good. a whole lot better than the original series. And also you don't have to deal with the anticlimactic ending of the original series. Which was the biggest disappointment since Moses led his people into the "promised land" (a desert) for 40-odd years
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#104 - friedgreenpomatoes (07/04/2014) [-]
germany is indeed best waifu
User avatar #215 - harbingerwolf (07/04/2014) [-]
Asuka is best germany.
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#411 - Wikipedia just ambiguously states that the Halo IP would remai…  [+] (2 new replies) 06/29/2014 on E3 2014 0
User avatar #412 - hellsjester (06/29/2014) [-]
you may be right i am really drunk and felt like arguen. shit .... no you are right. apologies
#408 - Because Microsoft bought the rights to the games prior to publ…  [+] (5 new replies) 06/29/2014 on E3 2014 0
User avatar #410 - hellsjester (06/29/2014) [-]
microsoft owned exclusive rights when bungie worked for them not ip. ip was given after bungie left.
User avatar #409 - hellsjester (06/29/2014) [-]
wrong full ownership of ip was not given to microsoft until after bungie went independent. hell that shit is even on the wiki about that shit. where the hell you getting your info?
User avatar #411 - nathanbiggs (06/29/2014) [-]
Wikipedia just ambiguously states that the Halo IP would remain Microsoft's after Bungie went independent, no mention about when they acquired the IP. Both Halopedia and Halo Nation state that "On October 5, 2007, Bungie and Microsoft announced an end to their partnership, effectively making Bungie an independent company once again, now titled Bungie LLC (limited liability corporation). The Halo Intellectual Property (IP) remains with Microsoft." Meaning that the owner of the IP was Microsoft prior to Bungie's announcement of the fact that they were going independent. Circling back to the original point, it still wouldn't be Bungie that would give the "okay" to make the MC collection. That would be Microsoft's call, and that's not debatable.
User avatar #412 - hellsjester (06/29/2014) [-]
you may be right i am really drunk and felt like arguen. shit .... no you are right. apologies
#406 - Nice backtracking, m8. I never said anything to the contrary of that  [+] (7 new replies) 06/28/2014 on E3 2014 0
User avatar #407 - hellsjester (06/28/2014) [-]
then how doesn't bungie own the original 3 games. explain that to me.
User avatar #408 - nathanbiggs (06/29/2014) [-]
Because Microsoft bought the rights to the games prior to publishing them. This has been common knowledge for a while. Microsoft bought the IP from Bungie prior to CE and contracted Bungie to make 5 games, that contract ending after the release of Halo: Reach.
User avatar #410 - hellsjester (06/29/2014) [-]
microsoft owned exclusive rights when bungie worked for them not ip. ip was given after bungie left.
User avatar #409 - hellsjester (06/29/2014) [-]
wrong full ownership of ip was not given to microsoft until after bungie went independent. hell that shit is even on the wiki about that shit. where the hell you getting your info?
User avatar #411 - nathanbiggs (06/29/2014) [-]
Wikipedia just ambiguously states that the Halo IP would remain Microsoft's after Bungie went independent, no mention about when they acquired the IP. Both Halopedia and Halo Nation state that "On October 5, 2007, Bungie and Microsoft announced an end to their partnership, effectively making Bungie an independent company once again, now titled Bungie LLC (limited liability corporation). The Halo Intellectual Property (IP) remains with Microsoft." Meaning that the owner of the IP was Microsoft prior to Bungie's announcement of the fact that they were going independent. Circling back to the original point, it still wouldn't be Bungie that would give the "okay" to make the MC collection. That would be Microsoft's call, and that's not debatable.
User avatar #412 - hellsjester (06/29/2014) [-]
you may be right i am really drunk and felt like arguen. shit .... no you are right. apologies
#403 - >ok let me explain you something. the team that made halo 1…  [+] (10 new replies) 06/28/2014 on E3 2014 0
User avatar #405 - hellsjester (06/28/2014) [-]
when microsoft bought them out it was literally a contract fucking deal arsewipe. it was a deal to make this game for them as bungie/ microsoft ip. activision was originally trying to get their hands on this shit, but failed because bungie saw them as a shovel ware company. at the time xbox was considered a serious gaming device concept.
User avatar #404 - hellsjester (06/28/2014) [-]
bungie announced fucking halo: combat evolved in 1999 for pc and mac. microsoft baught them after being interested in their project. like i said learn your shit.
User avatar #406 - nathanbiggs (06/28/2014) [-]
Nice backtracking, m8. I never said anything to the contrary of that
User avatar #407 - hellsjester (06/28/2014) [-]
then how doesn't bungie own the original 3 games. explain that to me.
User avatar #408 - nathanbiggs (06/29/2014) [-]
Because Microsoft bought the rights to the games prior to publishing them. This has been common knowledge for a while. Microsoft bought the IP from Bungie prior to CE and contracted Bungie to make 5 games, that contract ending after the release of Halo: Reach.
User avatar #410 - hellsjester (06/29/2014) [-]
microsoft owned exclusive rights when bungie worked for them not ip. ip was given after bungie left.
User avatar #409 - hellsjester (06/29/2014) [-]
wrong full ownership of ip was not given to microsoft until after bungie went independent. hell that shit is even on the wiki about that shit. where the hell you getting your info?
User avatar #411 - nathanbiggs (06/29/2014) [-]
Wikipedia just ambiguously states that the Halo IP would remain Microsoft's after Bungie went independent, no mention about when they acquired the IP. Both Halopedia and Halo Nation state that "On October 5, 2007, Bungie and Microsoft announced an end to their partnership, effectively making Bungie an independent company once again, now titled Bungie LLC (limited liability corporation). The Halo Intellectual Property (IP) remains with Microsoft." Meaning that the owner of the IP was Microsoft prior to Bungie's announcement of the fact that they were going independent. Circling back to the original point, it still wouldn't be Bungie that would give the "okay" to make the MC collection. That would be Microsoft's call, and that's not debatable.
User avatar #412 - hellsjester (06/29/2014) [-]
you may be right i am really drunk and felt like arguen. shit .... no you are right. apologies
#401 - Halo has not been Bungie's IP for over a decade. When Microso…  [+] (12 new replies) 06/28/2014 on E3 2014 0
User avatar #402 - hellsjester (06/28/2014) [-]
ok let me explain you something. the team that made halo 1 "bungie team" still has rights to halo 1-3 a company cannot just buy a name and say here is your 2$ fuck off. no they have to pay the original owner a percentage. yes bungie sold their ip to microsoft. after halo 3 which is when bungie stopped making halo. the ip was sold. microsoft acquired bungie in 2000. however the original 3 belong to bungie. there is a exclusive offer to microsoft for these games however. which means bungie still own the rights to these games. after halo 3 bungie broke off from microsoft giving the rights to the name halo, but not the original 3. those are microsoft and bungie owned. l2read buisness section of your newspaper. i know what the hell i am talking about. this means halo1, halo2, halo wars, and halo 3 cannot be touched without the consent of both microsoft and bungie. the rights to games afterwards belong to whoever are making the current shitty games and microsoft. unless they were contracted by microsoft to dish out shovel ware. which they are by microsoft who was given rights to make new halo games by bungie.
User avatar #403 - nathanbiggs (06/28/2014) [-]
>ok let me explain you something. the team that made halo 1 "bungie team" still has rights to halo 1-3 a company cannot just buy a name and say here is your 2$ fuck off.
The original acquisition of Bungie included Microsoft buying the Halo IP from Bungie, do I need to be more clear about this. Bungie. Does. Not. Own. The. Halo. IP.

> after halo 3 which is when bungie stopped making halo. the ip was sold. microsoft
Microsoft acquired Halo in 2000 when they bought Bungie, plus Bungie didn't stop making Halo until after Reach. Two entire games later.

>however the original 3 belong to bungie
They never belonged to Bungie, each one was published by and owned by Microsoft. Bungie just made them, the same way 343i just makes them.

>after halo 3 bungie broke off from microsoft giving the rights to the name halo, but not the original 3.
You just keep proving that you are ignorant of the situation. Bungie broke off from Microsoft and stopped making Halo games after Halo:Reach, not Halo 3.

> i know what the hell i am talking about.
top lel

>this means halo1, halo2, halo wars, and halo 3 cannot be touched without the consent of both microsoft and bungie
Halo Wars wasn't even made by Bungie.

User avatar #405 - hellsjester (06/28/2014) [-]
when microsoft bought them out it was literally a contract fucking deal arsewipe. it was a deal to make this game for them as bungie/ microsoft ip. activision was originally trying to get their hands on this shit, but failed because bungie saw them as a shovel ware company. at the time xbox was considered a serious gaming device concept.
User avatar #404 - hellsjester (06/28/2014) [-]
bungie announced fucking halo: combat evolved in 1999 for pc and mac. microsoft baught them after being interested in their project. like i said learn your shit.
User avatar #406 - nathanbiggs (06/28/2014) [-]
Nice backtracking, m8. I never said anything to the contrary of that
User avatar #407 - hellsjester (06/28/2014) [-]
then how doesn't bungie own the original 3 games. explain that to me.
User avatar #408 - nathanbiggs (06/29/2014) [-]
Because Microsoft bought the rights to the games prior to publishing them. This has been common knowledge for a while. Microsoft bought the IP from Bungie prior to CE and contracted Bungie to make 5 games, that contract ending after the release of Halo: Reach.
User avatar #410 - hellsjester (06/29/2014) [-]
microsoft owned exclusive rights when bungie worked for them not ip. ip was given after bungie left.
User avatar #409 - hellsjester (06/29/2014) [-]
wrong full ownership of ip was not given to microsoft until after bungie went independent. hell that shit is even on the wiki about that shit. where the hell you getting your info?
User avatar #411 - nathanbiggs (06/29/2014) [-]
Wikipedia just ambiguously states that the Halo IP would remain Microsoft's after Bungie went independent, no mention about when they acquired the IP. Both Halopedia and Halo Nation state that "On October 5, 2007, Bungie and Microsoft announced an end to their partnership, effectively making Bungie an independent company once again, now titled Bungie LLC (limited liability corporation). The Halo Intellectual Property (IP) remains with Microsoft." Meaning that the owner of the IP was Microsoft prior to Bungie's announcement of the fact that they were going independent. Circling back to the original point, it still wouldn't be Bungie that would give the "okay" to make the MC collection. That would be Microsoft's call, and that's not debatable.
User avatar #412 - hellsjester (06/29/2014) [-]
you may be right i am really drunk and felt like arguen. shit .... no you are right. apologies
#398 - You realize they aren't changing anything aside from the resol…  [+] (14 new replies) 06/28/2014 on E3 2014 0
User avatar #399 - hellsjester (06/28/2014) [-]
they can't unless bungie okays it and i am pretty sure that bungie wont approve someone else making money off their ip. so like i said let it rest in peace.
User avatar #401 - nathanbiggs (06/28/2014) [-]
Halo has not been Bungie's IP for over a decade. When Microsoft acquired Bungie back in 2000 they also bought the Halo IP. It is not Bungie's place to okay or not okay the MC Collection, because the IP isn't theirs and hasn't been theirs in over 14 years. As I said in my previous comment, you seem to be ignorant of the situation at hand.
User avatar #402 - hellsjester (06/28/2014) [-]
ok let me explain you something. the team that made halo 1 "bungie team" still has rights to halo 1-3 a company cannot just buy a name and say here is your 2$ fuck off. no they have to pay the original owner a percentage. yes bungie sold their ip to microsoft. after halo 3 which is when bungie stopped making halo. the ip was sold. microsoft acquired bungie in 2000. however the original 3 belong to bungie. there is a exclusive offer to microsoft for these games however. which means bungie still own the rights to these games. after halo 3 bungie broke off from microsoft giving the rights to the name halo, but not the original 3. those are microsoft and bungie owned. l2read buisness section of your newspaper. i know what the hell i am talking about. this means halo1, halo2, halo wars, and halo 3 cannot be touched without the consent of both microsoft and bungie. the rights to games afterwards belong to whoever are making the current shitty games and microsoft. unless they were contracted by microsoft to dish out shovel ware. which they are by microsoft who was given rights to make new halo games by bungie.
User avatar #403 - nathanbiggs (06/28/2014) [-]
>ok let me explain you something. the team that made halo 1 "bungie team" still has rights to halo 1-3 a company cannot just buy a name and say here is your 2$ fuck off.
The original acquisition of Bungie included Microsoft buying the Halo IP from Bungie, do I need to be more clear about this. Bungie. Does. Not. Own. The. Halo. IP.

> after halo 3 which is when bungie stopped making halo. the ip was sold. microsoft
Microsoft acquired Halo in 2000 when they bought Bungie, plus Bungie didn't stop making Halo until after Reach. Two entire games later.

>however the original 3 belong to bungie
They never belonged to Bungie, each one was published by and owned by Microsoft. Bungie just made them, the same way 343i just makes them.

>after halo 3 bungie broke off from microsoft giving the rights to the name halo, but not the original 3.
You just keep proving that you are ignorant of the situation. Bungie broke off from Microsoft and stopped making Halo games after Halo:Reach, not Halo 3.

> i know what the hell i am talking about.
top lel

>this means halo1, halo2, halo wars, and halo 3 cannot be touched without the consent of both microsoft and bungie
Halo Wars wasn't even made by Bungie.

User avatar #405 - hellsjester (06/28/2014) [-]
when microsoft bought them out it was literally a contract fucking deal arsewipe. it was a deal to make this game for them as bungie/ microsoft ip. activision was originally trying to get their hands on this shit, but failed because bungie saw them as a shovel ware company. at the time xbox was considered a serious gaming device concept.
User avatar #404 - hellsjester (06/28/2014) [-]
bungie announced fucking halo: combat evolved in 1999 for pc and mac. microsoft baught them after being interested in their project. like i said learn your shit.
User avatar #406 - nathanbiggs (06/28/2014) [-]
Nice backtracking, m8. I never said anything to the contrary of that
User avatar #407 - hellsjester (06/28/2014) [-]
then how doesn't bungie own the original 3 games. explain that to me.
User avatar #408 - nathanbiggs (06/29/2014) [-]
Because Microsoft bought the rights to the games prior to publishing them. This has been common knowledge for a while. Microsoft bought the IP from Bungie prior to CE and contracted Bungie to make 5 games, that contract ending after the release of Halo: Reach.
User avatar #410 - hellsjester (06/29/2014) [-]
microsoft owned exclusive rights when bungie worked for them not ip. ip was given after bungie left.
User avatar #409 - hellsjester (06/29/2014) [-]
wrong full ownership of ip was not given to microsoft until after bungie went independent. hell that shit is even on the wiki about that shit. where the hell you getting your info?
User avatar #411 - nathanbiggs (06/29/2014) [-]
Wikipedia just ambiguously states that the Halo IP would remain Microsoft's after Bungie went independent, no mention about when they acquired the IP. Both Halopedia and Halo Nation state that "On October 5, 2007, Bungie and Microsoft announced an end to their partnership, effectively making Bungie an independent company once again, now titled Bungie LLC (limited liability corporation). The Halo Intellectual Property (IP) remains with Microsoft." Meaning that the owner of the IP was Microsoft prior to Bungie's announcement of the fact that they were going independent. Circling back to the original point, it still wouldn't be Bungie that would give the "okay" to make the MC collection. That would be Microsoft's call, and that's not debatable.
User avatar #412 - hellsjester (06/29/2014) [-]
you may be right i am really drunk and felt like arguen. shit .... no you are right. apologies
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#8 - angryturnip (02/05/2012) [-]
**angryturnip rolled a random image posted in comment #560 at Trolling 2 **
**angryturnip rolled a random image posted in comment #560 at Trolling 2 **
#4 - angryturnip (09/14/2011) [-]
**angryturnip rolled a random image** <--- You.
#5 to #4 - angryturnip (09/14/2011) [-]
**angryturnip rolled a random image** That made no sense. Let's try it again.
#3 - angryturnip (09/03/2011) [-]
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User avatar #2 - igotsunshineinabag (07/09/2011) [-]
its onnnn
User avatar #1 - angryturnip (06/07/2011) [-]
I popped your profile comments cherry, ho.
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