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#298 - Another little fun-fact; People consider barbarians to be uncu… 09/09/2014 on A message across the millenia. 0
#297 - People from Normandy weren't always Normans. Charlemagne was. …  [+] (1 new reply) 09/09/2014 on A message across the millenia. 0
#302 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
Say what?

"The Vikings started to raid the Seine Valley during the middle of 9th century. After attacking and destroying monasteries, including one at Jumièges, they took advantage of the power vacuum created by the disintegration of Charlemagne's empire to take northern France. The fiefdom of Normandy was created for the Norwegian/Danish Viking leader Hrolf Ragnvaldsson, or Rollo (also known as Robert of Normandy). Rollo had besieged Paris but in 911 entered vassalage to the king of the West Franks, Charles the Simple, through the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte. In exchange for his homage and fealty, Rollo legally gained the territory which he and his Viking allies had previously conquered. The name "Normandy" reflects Rollo's Viking (i.e. "Northman") origins." From wikipedia, the normandy article.

Someone else would have discovered it by the time people started studying volcanos.

You are right north africans did alot of raping and pilaging too.
#291 - "Their herierchy wasnt any more advanced than feudalism&q…  [+] (13 new replies) 09/09/2014 on A message across the millenia. 0
#296 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
So everyone from normandy must be a decendant of the norse eh? Just like everyone in america is a decendant from the native americans, r-right?

There are plenty of Volcanos around the world and its not like the geological studies started in iceland.

We were talking about how Romo/Greek civilization was better than the scandinavian one. The content is about a work of art beeing desecrated by a savage, even tho the romans did that in egypt too...
#299 - comradewinter (09/09/2014) [-]
Your argument is that Africans were more advanced than Norse people, which is bullshit. Of course Greece and Rome was more advanced. They were the most advanced at the time, and probably the most advanced civilizations ever compared to their time.
#300 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
Look at aincient egypt and northern africa.
#307 - comradewinter (09/09/2014) [-]
You mean the regions founded by Middle Easterners?

Egypt was founded by nomads hailing from somewhere in the Middle East, possibly the Syrian region. Hence why their Pharaohs and nobles had Eastern origins. It was later built upon by Alexander the Great, after it showed a decline. A Macedonian.

Northern Africa is a bit of a big area to cover, but you're probably referring to Carthage and Numidia.

Carthage was founded by Poenicians, who came from the Middle East as well, assumingly from the Israeli region we know it as today. However, despite their impressive architecture, were savages. During the first Punic war they sacrificed their own children to their Gods for good fortune, and were fond of massacring their opponents.

The Numidians were tribal, being Massylii and Masaesyli respectively. They were mostly savage, and had little architecture to speak of. The little they had was built primarily by the Punic Carthagenians. After Carthage fell, the responsibility fell upon the Romans, who continued the work.

All in all, none of these were built by African natives. It would be like crediting the US to the Native Americans. They got slaughtered and replaced.
#310 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
What about Ethiopia or Mali?
#318 - comradewinter (09/09/2014) [-]
Ethiopia was built by native Ethiopians with massive assistance from the Sabeans, who were Middle Easterners. The subsequent development was orchestrated by Christians and Muslims, hailing from Europe and the Middle East respectively.

The Mali Empire was founded by Muslims from the Middle East, building upon the Ghana Empire which was also assisted by Muslims.

There wasn't really anything impressive about either of these, neither. The Great Mosque of Djenné in Mali looks nice, but the architect had Middle Eastern origins and it was economically supported by Middle Eastern benefactors.

And don't even mention the Zulu Empire. The region was large due to fighting with other weaker tribes, but was put down when they couldn't fight British Machineguns with spears and shields.
#323 - dehumanizer (09/10/2014) [-]
Still more advanced than the vikings. Atleast they had made something even with help. Vikings didnt do that till the late renisanse.
#327 - comradewinter (09/10/2014) [-]
We had the most advanced ships, blades that everyone envied, heavy armor, and a thrist for conquest. I don't suppose you know who laid the foundations for just about most of Europe? Africans stayed in Africa, and got pushed back whenever they dealt with anyone not from the region.
#325 - cherubium (09/10/2014) [-]
Didn't do what? build kingdoms?
#321 - cherubium (09/09/2014) [-]
Dehumanizer has a severe case of taking offense about the fact that his anceastors got buttfucked hard by Vikings so he has dedicated his life to spouting "Vikings were just barbarians!!!!!11!!" and all around is just /pol/ presonified which is pretty hilarious in itself.
#322 - dehumanizer (09/10/2014) [-]
Not really no.
User avatar #297 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/09/2014) [-]
People from Normandy weren't always Normans. Charlemagne was.

Iceland is still important for geological studies.

You specifically were talking about how Scandinavians "weren't" as advanced as Africa. This debate between you and I never had anything to do with Greco Roman civilization. In fact, in my first comment, I even said that Hellenistic cultures were more advanced than Scandinavians, in my opinion.
#302 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
Say what?

"The Vikings started to raid the Seine Valley during the middle of 9th century. After attacking and destroying monasteries, including one at Jumièges, they took advantage of the power vacuum created by the disintegration of Charlemagne's empire to take northern France. The fiefdom of Normandy was created for the Norwegian/Danish Viking leader Hrolf Ragnvaldsson, or Rollo (also known as Robert of Normandy). Rollo had besieged Paris but in 911 entered vassalage to the king of the West Franks, Charles the Simple, through the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte. In exchange for his homage and fealty, Rollo legally gained the territory which he and his Viking allies had previously conquered. The name "Normandy" reflects Rollo's Viking (i.e. "Northman") origins." From wikipedia, the normandy article.

Someone else would have discovered it by the time people started studying volcanos.

You are right north africans did alot of raping and pilaging too.
#286 - Well, they contributed the entire population of Europe, for on…  [+] (15 new replies) 09/09/2014 on A message across the millenia. 0
#289 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
France was made by Charlemange (even tho he called it roman empire for the lulz), combs were discovered back in neolitic era.

Greenland and Iceland are of no historical revelancy to the world and the North American settlement was a disaster and the continent might have been discovered earlier by an Irish monk.

Their herierchy wasnt any more advanced than feudalism. While greeks had democracy even B.C.


User avatar #291 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/09/2014) [-]
"Their herierchy wasnt any more advanced than feudalism"

Do you even know when feudalism was a common thing? That's the same time they were around, ergo, that's the time they should have been in.

Charlemagne was a Norman. Which is offspring of the Vikings in France. Everyone in France was a Norman.

Iceland is a heavily volcanic area, making it important for scientific observations.

And to your point about the Greeks;
Cool. We weren't even talking about the Greeks. Your arguments are shit, and it's becoming pretty clear you never got past the seventh grade in history class.
#296 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
So everyone from normandy must be a decendant of the norse eh? Just like everyone in america is a decendant from the native americans, r-right?

There are plenty of Volcanos around the world and its not like the geological studies started in iceland.

We were talking about how Romo/Greek civilization was better than the scandinavian one. The content is about a work of art beeing desecrated by a savage, even tho the romans did that in egypt too...
#299 - comradewinter (09/09/2014) [-]
Your argument is that Africans were more advanced than Norse people, which is bullshit. Of course Greece and Rome was more advanced. They were the most advanced at the time, and probably the most advanced civilizations ever compared to their time.
#300 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
Look at aincient egypt and northern africa.
#307 - comradewinter (09/09/2014) [-]
You mean the regions founded by Middle Easterners?

Egypt was founded by nomads hailing from somewhere in the Middle East, possibly the Syrian region. Hence why their Pharaohs and nobles had Eastern origins. It was later built upon by Alexander the Great, after it showed a decline. A Macedonian.

Northern Africa is a bit of a big area to cover, but you're probably referring to Carthage and Numidia.

Carthage was founded by Poenicians, who came from the Middle East as well, assumingly from the Israeli region we know it as today. However, despite their impressive architecture, were savages. During the first Punic war they sacrificed their own children to their Gods for good fortune, and were fond of massacring their opponents.

The Numidians were tribal, being Massylii and Masaesyli respectively. They were mostly savage, and had little architecture to speak of. The little they had was built primarily by the Punic Carthagenians. After Carthage fell, the responsibility fell upon the Romans, who continued the work.

All in all, none of these were built by African natives. It would be like crediting the US to the Native Americans. They got slaughtered and replaced.
#310 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
What about Ethiopia or Mali?
#318 - comradewinter (09/09/2014) [-]
Ethiopia was built by native Ethiopians with massive assistance from the Sabeans, who were Middle Easterners. The subsequent development was orchestrated by Christians and Muslims, hailing from Europe and the Middle East respectively.

The Mali Empire was founded by Muslims from the Middle East, building upon the Ghana Empire which was also assisted by Muslims.

There wasn't really anything impressive about either of these, neither. The Great Mosque of Djenné in Mali looks nice, but the architect had Middle Eastern origins and it was economically supported by Middle Eastern benefactors.

And don't even mention the Zulu Empire. The region was large due to fighting with other weaker tribes, but was put down when they couldn't fight British Machineguns with spears and shields.
#323 - dehumanizer (09/10/2014) [-]
Still more advanced than the vikings. Atleast they had made something even with help. Vikings didnt do that till the late renisanse.
#327 - comradewinter (09/10/2014) [-]
We had the most advanced ships, blades that everyone envied, heavy armor, and a thrist for conquest. I don't suppose you know who laid the foundations for just about most of Europe? Africans stayed in Africa, and got pushed back whenever they dealt with anyone not from the region.
#325 - cherubium (09/10/2014) [-]
Didn't do what? build kingdoms?
#321 - cherubium (09/09/2014) [-]
Dehumanizer has a severe case of taking offense about the fact that his anceastors got buttfucked hard by Vikings so he has dedicated his life to spouting "Vikings were just barbarians!!!!!11!!" and all around is just /pol/ presonified which is pretty hilarious in itself.
#322 - dehumanizer (09/10/2014) [-]
Not really no.
User avatar #297 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/09/2014) [-]
People from Normandy weren't always Normans. Charlemagne was.

Iceland is still important for geological studies.

You specifically were talking about how Scandinavians "weren't" as advanced as Africa. This debate between you and I never had anything to do with Greco Roman civilization. In fact, in my first comment, I even said that Hellenistic cultures were more advanced than Scandinavians, in my opinion.
#302 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
Say what?

"The Vikings started to raid the Seine Valley during the middle of 9th century. After attacking and destroying monasteries, including one at Jumièges, they took advantage of the power vacuum created by the disintegration of Charlemagne's empire to take northern France. The fiefdom of Normandy was created for the Norwegian/Danish Viking leader Hrolf Ragnvaldsson, or Rollo (also known as Robert of Normandy). Rollo had besieged Paris but in 911 entered vassalage to the king of the West Franks, Charles the Simple, through the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte. In exchange for his homage and fealty, Rollo legally gained the territory which he and his Viking allies had previously conquered. The name "Normandy" reflects Rollo's Viking (i.e. "Northman") origins." From wikipedia, the normandy article.

Someone else would have discovered it by the time people started studying volcanos.

You are right north africans did alot of raping and pilaging too.
#116 - Alright, you clearly don't understand a single thing about his…  [+] (17 new replies) 09/09/2014 on A message across the millenia. +2
#127 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
And how are they better than Samoans or aboriginals? What did they contribute to mankind? Nothing, they were simple brutes just existing and going to war from time to time.
User avatar #286 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/09/2014) [-]
Well, they contributed the entire population of Europe, for one, and they made France, and won the battle of Hastings. They also made advancements in what is basic hygiene to us now, such as the comb, which didn't exist anywhere else. They also created the first practical version of the magnetic compass. The Chinese created the first one, I believe, but it wasn't exactly useful. Vikings also created Greenland, Iceland, and found North America.

The Vikings also had a hierarchical culture that was quite in depth and advanced. African cultures of the time decided wealth by how many yams you had, and how many people you had killed. Your goal in life would have been to be physically stronger than everyone else. Aboriginal cultures existed solely through oral tradition with no writing, and technologically, hardly passed the stone age for tens of thousands of years.
#289 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
France was made by Charlemange (even tho he called it roman empire for the lulz), combs were discovered back in neolitic era.

Greenland and Iceland are of no historical revelancy to the world and the North American settlement was a disaster and the continent might have been discovered earlier by an Irish monk.

Their herierchy wasnt any more advanced than feudalism. While greeks had democracy even B.C.


User avatar #291 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/09/2014) [-]
"Their herierchy wasnt any more advanced than feudalism"

Do you even know when feudalism was a common thing? That's the same time they were around, ergo, that's the time they should have been in.

Charlemagne was a Norman. Which is offspring of the Vikings in France. Everyone in France was a Norman.

Iceland is a heavily volcanic area, making it important for scientific observations.

And to your point about the Greeks;
Cool. We weren't even talking about the Greeks. Your arguments are shit, and it's becoming pretty clear you never got past the seventh grade in history class.
#296 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
So everyone from normandy must be a decendant of the norse eh? Just like everyone in america is a decendant from the native americans, r-right?

There are plenty of Volcanos around the world and its not like the geological studies started in iceland.

We were talking about how Romo/Greek civilization was better than the scandinavian one. The content is about a work of art beeing desecrated by a savage, even tho the romans did that in egypt too...
#299 - comradewinter (09/09/2014) [-]
Your argument is that Africans were more advanced than Norse people, which is bullshit. Of course Greece and Rome was more advanced. They were the most advanced at the time, and probably the most advanced civilizations ever compared to their time.
#300 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
Look at aincient egypt and northern africa.
#307 - comradewinter (09/09/2014) [-]
You mean the regions founded by Middle Easterners?

Egypt was founded by nomads hailing from somewhere in the Middle East, possibly the Syrian region. Hence why their Pharaohs and nobles had Eastern origins. It was later built upon by Alexander the Great, after it showed a decline. A Macedonian.

Northern Africa is a bit of a big area to cover, but you're probably referring to Carthage and Numidia.

Carthage was founded by Poenicians, who came from the Middle East as well, assumingly from the Israeli region we know it as today. However, despite their impressive architecture, were savages. During the first Punic war they sacrificed their own children to their Gods for good fortune, and were fond of massacring their opponents.

The Numidians were tribal, being Massylii and Masaesyli respectively. They were mostly savage, and had little architecture to speak of. The little they had was built primarily by the Punic Carthagenians. After Carthage fell, the responsibility fell upon the Romans, who continued the work.

All in all, none of these were built by African natives. It would be like crediting the US to the Native Americans. They got slaughtered and replaced.
#310 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
What about Ethiopia or Mali?
#318 - comradewinter (09/09/2014) [-]
Ethiopia was built by native Ethiopians with massive assistance from the Sabeans, who were Middle Easterners. The subsequent development was orchestrated by Christians and Muslims, hailing from Europe and the Middle East respectively.

The Mali Empire was founded by Muslims from the Middle East, building upon the Ghana Empire which was also assisted by Muslims.

There wasn't really anything impressive about either of these, neither. The Great Mosque of Djenné in Mali looks nice, but the architect had Middle Eastern origins and it was economically supported by Middle Eastern benefactors.

And don't even mention the Zulu Empire. The region was large due to fighting with other weaker tribes, but was put down when they couldn't fight British Machineguns with spears and shields.
#323 - dehumanizer (09/10/2014) [-]
Still more advanced than the vikings. Atleast they had made something even with help. Vikings didnt do that till the late renisanse.
#327 - comradewinter (09/10/2014) [-]
We had the most advanced ships, blades that everyone envied, heavy armor, and a thrist for conquest. I don't suppose you know who laid the foundations for just about most of Europe? Africans stayed in Africa, and got pushed back whenever they dealt with anyone not from the region.
#325 - cherubium (09/10/2014) [-]
Didn't do what? build kingdoms?
#321 - cherubium (09/09/2014) [-]
Dehumanizer has a severe case of taking offense about the fact that his anceastors got buttfucked hard by Vikings so he has dedicated his life to spouting "Vikings were just barbarians!!!!!11!!" and all around is just /pol/ presonified which is pretty hilarious in itself.
#322 - dehumanizer (09/10/2014) [-]
Not really no.
User avatar #297 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/09/2014) [-]
People from Normandy weren't always Normans. Charlemagne was.

Iceland is still important for geological studies.

You specifically were talking about how Scandinavians "weren't" as advanced as Africa. This debate between you and I never had anything to do with Greco Roman civilization. In fact, in my first comment, I even said that Hellenistic cultures were more advanced than Scandinavians, in my opinion.
#302 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
Say what?

"The Vikings started to raid the Seine Valley during the middle of 9th century. After attacking and destroying monasteries, including one at Jumièges, they took advantage of the power vacuum created by the disintegration of Charlemagne's empire to take northern France. The fiefdom of Normandy was created for the Norwegian/Danish Viking leader Hrolf Ragnvaldsson, or Rollo (also known as Robert of Normandy). Rollo had besieged Paris but in 911 entered vassalage to the king of the West Franks, Charles the Simple, through the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte. In exchange for his homage and fealty, Rollo legally gained the territory which he and his Viking allies had previously conquered. The name "Normandy" reflects Rollo's Viking (i.e. "Northman") origins." From wikipedia, the normandy article.

Someone else would have discovered it by the time people started studying volcanos.

You are right north africans did alot of raping and pilaging too.
#68 - That's.. That's not what I was saying at all. Not to mention, …  [+] (19 new replies) 09/09/2014 on A message across the millenia. +3
#72 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
VIDF pls, while the proto sweedes were busy killing villagers and then runing away from every conventional army, the africans in ethiopia managed to build pic related. Carved it right out of solid stone.
User avatar #116 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/09/2014) [-]
Alright, you clearly don't understand a single thing about history other than someone's ability to chisel stone.
#127 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
And how are they better than Samoans or aboriginals? What did they contribute to mankind? Nothing, they were simple brutes just existing and going to war from time to time.
User avatar #286 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/09/2014) [-]
Well, they contributed the entire population of Europe, for one, and they made France, and won the battle of Hastings. They also made advancements in what is basic hygiene to us now, such as the comb, which didn't exist anywhere else. They also created the first practical version of the magnetic compass. The Chinese created the first one, I believe, but it wasn't exactly useful. Vikings also created Greenland, Iceland, and found North America.

The Vikings also had a hierarchical culture that was quite in depth and advanced. African cultures of the time decided wealth by how many yams you had, and how many people you had killed. Your goal in life would have been to be physically stronger than everyone else. Aboriginal cultures existed solely through oral tradition with no writing, and technologically, hardly passed the stone age for tens of thousands of years.
#289 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
France was made by Charlemange (even tho he called it roman empire for the lulz), combs were discovered back in neolitic era.

Greenland and Iceland are of no historical revelancy to the world and the North American settlement was a disaster and the continent might have been discovered earlier by an Irish monk.

Their herierchy wasnt any more advanced than feudalism. While greeks had democracy even B.C.


User avatar #291 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/09/2014) [-]
"Their herierchy wasnt any more advanced than feudalism"

Do you even know when feudalism was a common thing? That's the same time they were around, ergo, that's the time they should have been in.

Charlemagne was a Norman. Which is offspring of the Vikings in France. Everyone in France was a Norman.

Iceland is a heavily volcanic area, making it important for scientific observations.

And to your point about the Greeks;
Cool. We weren't even talking about the Greeks. Your arguments are shit, and it's becoming pretty clear you never got past the seventh grade in history class.
#296 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
So everyone from normandy must be a decendant of the norse eh? Just like everyone in america is a decendant from the native americans, r-right?

There are plenty of Volcanos around the world and its not like the geological studies started in iceland.

We were talking about how Romo/Greek civilization was better than the scandinavian one. The content is about a work of art beeing desecrated by a savage, even tho the romans did that in egypt too...
#299 - comradewinter (09/09/2014) [-]
Your argument is that Africans were more advanced than Norse people, which is bullshit. Of course Greece and Rome was more advanced. They were the most advanced at the time, and probably the most advanced civilizations ever compared to their time.
#300 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
Look at aincient egypt and northern africa.
#307 - comradewinter (09/09/2014) [-]
You mean the regions founded by Middle Easterners?

Egypt was founded by nomads hailing from somewhere in the Middle East, possibly the Syrian region. Hence why their Pharaohs and nobles had Eastern origins. It was later built upon by Alexander the Great, after it showed a decline. A Macedonian.

Northern Africa is a bit of a big area to cover, but you're probably referring to Carthage and Numidia.

Carthage was founded by Poenicians, who came from the Middle East as well, assumingly from the Israeli region we know it as today. However, despite their impressive architecture, were savages. During the first Punic war they sacrificed their own children to their Gods for good fortune, and were fond of massacring their opponents.

The Numidians were tribal, being Massylii and Masaesyli respectively. They were mostly savage, and had little architecture to speak of. The little they had was built primarily by the Punic Carthagenians. After Carthage fell, the responsibility fell upon the Romans, who continued the work.

All in all, none of these were built by African natives. It would be like crediting the US to the Native Americans. They got slaughtered and replaced.
#310 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
What about Ethiopia or Mali?
#318 - comradewinter (09/09/2014) [-]
Ethiopia was built by native Ethiopians with massive assistance from the Sabeans, who were Middle Easterners. The subsequent development was orchestrated by Christians and Muslims, hailing from Europe and the Middle East respectively.

The Mali Empire was founded by Muslims from the Middle East, building upon the Ghana Empire which was also assisted by Muslims.

There wasn't really anything impressive about either of these, neither. The Great Mosque of Djenné in Mali looks nice, but the architect had Middle Eastern origins and it was economically supported by Middle Eastern benefactors.

And don't even mention the Zulu Empire. The region was large due to fighting with other weaker tribes, but was put down when they couldn't fight British Machineguns with spears and shields.
#323 - dehumanizer (09/10/2014) [-]
Still more advanced than the vikings. Atleast they had made something even with help. Vikings didnt do that till the late renisanse.
#327 - comradewinter (09/10/2014) [-]
We had the most advanced ships, blades that everyone envied, heavy armor, and a thrist for conquest. I don't suppose you know who laid the foundations for just about most of Europe? Africans stayed in Africa, and got pushed back whenever they dealt with anyone not from the region.
#325 - cherubium (09/10/2014) [-]
Didn't do what? build kingdoms?
#321 - cherubium (09/09/2014) [-]
Dehumanizer has a severe case of taking offense about the fact that his anceastors got buttfucked hard by Vikings so he has dedicated his life to spouting "Vikings were just barbarians!!!!!11!!" and all around is just /pol/ presonified which is pretty hilarious in itself.
#322 - dehumanizer (09/10/2014) [-]
Not really no.
User avatar #297 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/09/2014) [-]
People from Normandy weren't always Normans. Charlemagne was.

Iceland is still important for geological studies.

You specifically were talking about how Scandinavians "weren't" as advanced as Africa. This debate between you and I never had anything to do with Greco Roman civilization. In fact, in my first comment, I even said that Hellenistic cultures were more advanced than Scandinavians, in my opinion.
#302 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
Say what?

"The Vikings started to raid the Seine Valley during the middle of 9th century. After attacking and destroying monasteries, including one at Jumièges, they took advantage of the power vacuum created by the disintegration of Charlemagne's empire to take northern France. The fiefdom of Normandy was created for the Norwegian/Danish Viking leader Hrolf Ragnvaldsson, or Rollo (also known as Robert of Normandy). Rollo had besieged Paris but in 911 entered vassalage to the king of the West Franks, Charles the Simple, through the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte. In exchange for his homage and fealty, Rollo legally gained the territory which he and his Viking allies had previously conquered. The name "Normandy" reflects Rollo's Viking (i.e. "Northman") origins." From wikipedia, the normandy article.

Someone else would have discovered it by the time people started studying volcanos.

You are right north africans did alot of raping and pilaging too.
#18 - Just because they weren't as cultured as the Romans doesn't me…  [+] (36 new replies) 09/09/2014 on A message across the millenia. +2
#66 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
Actualy up untill the late Renisance, africans WERE more civilized than scandinavians.
User avatar #68 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/09/2014) [-]
That's.. That's not what I was saying at all. Not to mention, that's really not true at all, either.
#72 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
VIDF pls, while the proto sweedes were busy killing villagers and then runing away from every conventional army, the africans in ethiopia managed to build pic related. Carved it right out of solid stone.
User avatar #116 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/09/2014) [-]
Alright, you clearly don't understand a single thing about history other than someone's ability to chisel stone.
#127 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
And how are they better than Samoans or aboriginals? What did they contribute to mankind? Nothing, they were simple brutes just existing and going to war from time to time.
User avatar #286 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/09/2014) [-]
Well, they contributed the entire population of Europe, for one, and they made France, and won the battle of Hastings. They also made advancements in what is basic hygiene to us now, such as the comb, which didn't exist anywhere else. They also created the first practical version of the magnetic compass. The Chinese created the first one, I believe, but it wasn't exactly useful. Vikings also created Greenland, Iceland, and found North America.

The Vikings also had a hierarchical culture that was quite in depth and advanced. African cultures of the time decided wealth by how many yams you had, and how many people you had killed. Your goal in life would have been to be physically stronger than everyone else. Aboriginal cultures existed solely through oral tradition with no writing, and technologically, hardly passed the stone age for tens of thousands of years.
#289 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
France was made by Charlemange (even tho he called it roman empire for the lulz), combs were discovered back in neolitic era.

Greenland and Iceland are of no historical revelancy to the world and the North American settlement was a disaster and the continent might have been discovered earlier by an Irish monk.

Their herierchy wasnt any more advanced than feudalism. While greeks had democracy even B.C.


User avatar #291 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/09/2014) [-]
"Their herierchy wasnt any more advanced than feudalism"

Do you even know when feudalism was a common thing? That's the same time they were around, ergo, that's the time they should have been in.

Charlemagne was a Norman. Which is offspring of the Vikings in France. Everyone in France was a Norman.

Iceland is a heavily volcanic area, making it important for scientific observations.

And to your point about the Greeks;
Cool. We weren't even talking about the Greeks. Your arguments are shit, and it's becoming pretty clear you never got past the seventh grade in history class.
#296 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
So everyone from normandy must be a decendant of the norse eh? Just like everyone in america is a decendant from the native americans, r-right?

There are plenty of Volcanos around the world and its not like the geological studies started in iceland.

We were talking about how Romo/Greek civilization was better than the scandinavian one. The content is about a work of art beeing desecrated by a savage, even tho the romans did that in egypt too...
#299 - comradewinter (09/09/2014) [-]
Your argument is that Africans were more advanced than Norse people, which is bullshit. Of course Greece and Rome was more advanced. They were the most advanced at the time, and probably the most advanced civilizations ever compared to their time.
#300 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
Look at aincient egypt and northern africa.
#307 - comradewinter (09/09/2014) [-]
You mean the regions founded by Middle Easterners?

Egypt was founded by nomads hailing from somewhere in the Middle East, possibly the Syrian region. Hence why their Pharaohs and nobles had Eastern origins. It was later built upon by Alexander the Great, after it showed a decline. A Macedonian.

Northern Africa is a bit of a big area to cover, but you're probably referring to Carthage and Numidia.

Carthage was founded by Poenicians, who came from the Middle East as well, assumingly from the Israeli region we know it as today. However, despite their impressive architecture, were savages. During the first Punic war they sacrificed their own children to their Gods for good fortune, and were fond of massacring their opponents.

The Numidians were tribal, being Massylii and Masaesyli respectively. They were mostly savage, and had little architecture to speak of. The little they had was built primarily by the Punic Carthagenians. After Carthage fell, the responsibility fell upon the Romans, who continued the work.

All in all, none of these were built by African natives. It would be like crediting the US to the Native Americans. They got slaughtered and replaced.
#310 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
What about Ethiopia or Mali?
#318 - comradewinter (09/09/2014) [-]
Ethiopia was built by native Ethiopians with massive assistance from the Sabeans, who were Middle Easterners. The subsequent development was orchestrated by Christians and Muslims, hailing from Europe and the Middle East respectively.

The Mali Empire was founded by Muslims from the Middle East, building upon the Ghana Empire which was also assisted by Muslims.

There wasn't really anything impressive about either of these, neither. The Great Mosque of Djenné in Mali looks nice, but the architect had Middle Eastern origins and it was economically supported by Middle Eastern benefactors.

And don't even mention the Zulu Empire. The region was large due to fighting with other weaker tribes, but was put down when they couldn't fight British Machineguns with spears and shields.
#323 - dehumanizer (09/10/2014) [-]
Still more advanced than the vikings. Atleast they had made something even with help. Vikings didnt do that till the late renisanse.
#327 - comradewinter (09/10/2014) [-]
We had the most advanced ships, blades that everyone envied, heavy armor, and a thrist for conquest. I don't suppose you know who laid the foundations for just about most of Europe? Africans stayed in Africa, and got pushed back whenever they dealt with anyone not from the region.
#325 - cherubium (09/10/2014) [-]
Didn't do what? build kingdoms?
#321 - cherubium (09/09/2014) [-]
Dehumanizer has a severe case of taking offense about the fact that his anceastors got buttfucked hard by Vikings so he has dedicated his life to spouting "Vikings were just barbarians!!!!!11!!" and all around is just /pol/ presonified which is pretty hilarious in itself.
#322 - dehumanizer (09/10/2014) [-]
Not really no.
User avatar #297 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/09/2014) [-]
People from Normandy weren't always Normans. Charlemagne was.

Iceland is still important for geological studies.

You specifically were talking about how Scandinavians "weren't" as advanced as Africa. This debate between you and I never had anything to do with Greco Roman civilization. In fact, in my first comment, I even said that Hellenistic cultures were more advanced than Scandinavians, in my opinion.
#302 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
Say what?

"The Vikings started to raid the Seine Valley during the middle of 9th century. After attacking and destroying monasteries, including one at Jumièges, they took advantage of the power vacuum created by the disintegration of Charlemagne's empire to take northern France. The fiefdom of Normandy was created for the Norwegian/Danish Viking leader Hrolf Ragnvaldsson, or Rollo (also known as Robert of Normandy). Rollo had besieged Paris but in 911 entered vassalage to the king of the West Franks, Charles the Simple, through the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte. In exchange for his homage and fealty, Rollo legally gained the territory which he and his Viking allies had previously conquered. The name "Normandy" reflects Rollo's Viking (i.e. "Northman") origins." From wikipedia, the normandy article.

Someone else would have discovered it by the time people started studying volcanos.

You are right north africans did alot of raping and pilaging too.
#20 - andrakian (09/09/2014) [-]
Actually the vikings were, socially and even technologically in some sectors, miles ahead of Dark Ages Europe and the Roman Empire in its decadence phase.

They had elective monarchies, the best weapons and boats in Europe and a code of laws that, while not copied as many times as the roman one, was much more advanced.

But yeah, they didn't have marble temples so they were cavemen. Why even creating a civilization if you can't get yourself some marble, amirite?
#67 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
Varg pls dont you some farmers to kill?
The Vikings werent any supperiour to any other group of savages, like the Zulu for example.
User avatar #58 - rockamekishiko (09/09/2014) [-]
while they were not as barbaric as people perceive, i don't think that they were more advanced than the romans at the time
#201 - andrakian (09/09/2014) [-]
Definitely not more advanced than the romans under Augustus or other great emperors. But they were more advanced than the 4th and 5th century romans.

On citizenship, for instance. Late romans only extended citizenship to free men. Women, slaves and the growing serf population had not much more rights than a horse, and that passed on to Dark Ages Europe.
Viking laws extended citizenship to everyone under the power of the kings, so they were one of the only civilization in Europe to give women and slaves some garanteed rights, like "not being beaten on a daily basis". Their law also garanteed the citizen some fundamental rights that not even the king could take, an untinkable thing to the late romans. Actually, one of the reasons they were seen as barbaric was exactly the smaller power of their nobility over the population, that the rest of Europe saw as anarchy.

I'm a huge history buff, so this kind of thing sends me into a rant
User avatar #298 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/09/2014) [-]
Another little fun-fact; People consider barbarians to be uncultured brutes, when, in its intended use, "Barbarian" simply refers to anyone not Roman.
#29 - atomschlumpf (09/09/2014) [-]
They also bathed about once every week and combed their hair and beards and shit and thus were much more hygenic and much less flea-ridden than many of the other cultures back then
#69 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
Romans had warm water baths.
User avatar #113 - atomschlumpf (09/09/2014) [-]
Thats not the viking era tho
#124 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
Yeah they had it several hundreds of years prior.
User avatar #170 - atomschlumpf (09/09/2014) [-]
And the Egyptians had written language, advanced knowledge in math, knew how to make paper etc. prior to them. Does that make any of the Roman accomplishments any less impressive?

Point is the vikings had a hygienic standard while about everyone else was caked with dirt
#206 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
everyone else was caked in dirt? sorry but thats a myth
User avatar #229 - atomschlumpf (09/09/2014) [-]
How so? The upper classes bathed a few times a year, using parfume instead to smell good and the lower classes bathed next to never. Of course, the higher classes also used powder on their bodies but I doubt that helped much. The streets in the cities were filled with dirt, shit, urine and other horribly stinking stuff.

Admittedly, I'm talking only about Europe here, but that's where the Norsemen were from.
#239 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
Again only pop culture myth. How were the norse any cleaner than the other europeans?

You said something about combs but they predate to the neopolic era and it was just anecdotal evidence.
User avatar #248 - atomschlumpf (09/09/2014) [-]
Uhh..no? It's not a pop culture myth. It is known that up until the 18th century water was thought to be harmful the ones health and as thus the monarchs and aristocrats bathed as rarely as possible. Take for example King Ludwig XVI. That was even after the Dark Ages and he was widely known for stinking like an animal.

And yes, they combed and washed their hair and beards. Of course, the aristocrats of medieval europe did the same but I doubt the common people did. Also the nordic countries were some of the first to use saunas again after seeing it in russia and asian countries
#268 - dehumanizer (09/09/2014) [-]
Yeah 1 smelly king means the whole of the continent was smelly too amirigt?

Why do you doubt the common people did?

Also romans invented warm water baths.
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How the hell was Roy OP? He was a slower, heavier Marth with a suped-up neutral special that was almost useless because the charge time was so long. He hit harder than Marth and the fire element to his attacks gave them the effect of having multiple strikes on some attacks, but none of these things add up to him being 'OP'.
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Are we supposed to be surprised when most Americans can't even point out their own country on a map?
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That's quite simply a lie, and I challenge you to find any study or survey that supports it, because I sure as hell can't.
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Bitch, we are the map.
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I think it is more about the fact that he sent it to the address without acthually looking up where that address was!
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User avatar #37 - hydraetis (09/07/2014) [-]
Well it's almost like school is an even split between memorization and other shit.

Though word problems aren't really problem solving in my opinion. It's just another random format.
User avatar #38 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/07/2014) [-]
Word Problems leave you to actually comprehend the problem in your head. You have to identify similarities between the real world and mathematical values, which applies in science and math. Things like History could easily be called memorization, to be fair, since that is more or less what they are.

Anyways, memorization is underestimated, since it actually does affect your brain. Memorizing things helps you learn them, since your brain naturally makes connections, and you learn naturally that way.
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User avatar #54 - samoaspider (09/07/2014) [-]
alright, lets make a list, does sushi count as raw meat?
User avatar #98 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/07/2014) [-]
Technically not, since sushi doesn't need meat.
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User avatar #35 - hydraetis (09/07/2014) [-]
Funny, I've heard of many classes and courses in school being described as "all memorization."
User avatar #65 - assrocket (09/07/2014) [-]
I've heard that too, but I recommend you take that with a pinch of salt.

A lot of teachers say this to encourage students. When you're introduced to a new topic (or area of a topic) it can be baffling because you have little or no previous knowledge of the topic to begin with, and because you don't immediately understand the topic as a whole, you have to memorise whatever singular facts you can manage. You don't even have to understand what you're memorising yet. You just need to be able to recite it. In this way, memorisation is a fundamental aspect of learning. It is one of the first stages, and I'd definitely say it's incredibly important.
However, it's certainly not a satisfactory 'ending' step.

Human memory is pretty shit. We can't just recall information on demand - we don't work that way. We might pass a test with memorisation alone, but 50 years down the line, that information is GONE. Nobody remembers shit for fifty years. Do you remember the pythagorean theorem? Most people forget their car keys. So how do people make careers out of mathematics or music or the sciences when there's so much to remember?

They have to make connections between these tidbits of information.
That's what problem-solving is all about. It's making connections between seemingly unrelated pieces of information and turning them into something useful. An example is Ignaz Semmelweis, a doctor who worked in a maternity ward with a high mother/child mortality rate. He saw in the ward that there was a correlation between the high mortality rate and the fact that the doctors in the ward didn't wash their hands between patients, because he was able to compare that observation to another he made of the midwives, who had fewer deaths, and higher levels of cleanliness. Sadly, he was condemned to an asylum for his insistence that there was a correlation, but his discovery lead to research by others. It lead to the discovery of bacteria.

TL;DR: Brains are cool.
User avatar #36 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/07/2014) [-]
Cool, I've heard of many classes and courses in school as not memorization.
User avatar #37 - hydraetis (09/07/2014) [-]
Well it's almost like school is an even split between memorization and other shit.

Though word problems aren't really problem solving in my opinion. It's just another random format.
User avatar #38 - mrtwilightsparkle (09/07/2014) [-]
Word Problems leave you to actually comprehend the problem in your head. You have to identify similarities between the real world and mathematical values, which applies in science and math. Things like History could easily be called memorization, to be fair, since that is more or less what they are.

Anyways, memorization is underestimated, since it actually does affect your brain. Memorizing things helps you learn them, since your brain naturally makes connections, and you learn naturally that way.
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Writer. Not author.
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check his name.
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Check the blog.
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I have no idea what "blog" you are refering to, but when i said check his name, i meant the one in the content.

The guy that wrote "writer" has "author" in his name.
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The name is the blog, you fool.
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Check your privilege... or something.
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Okay, that was funny. I exhaled heavily and suddenly from my nose.
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I don't think they were quoting directly, they just wanted to enforce sarcasm
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It's tumblr. That's like putting $100 on air being breathable.
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without DLC
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by EA
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Requires a constant internet connection.
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3000 ....
people really don't know a thing about the middle east conflict
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3,000 years ago the Palestinians were Israelis.
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Correlation =/= causation. The woman was 81 and had a heart attack, it's not like her death was caused by some unheard of medical mystery.
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well just seems odd....having a heart attack while under sedation for a throat operation
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You mean complications from throat surgery a week prior, which are also expected at that age.
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the fuck are you talking about i've seen those in every country i've been
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I am from germany and subways and some mcdonalds have those (maybe even other plaes too)
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they exist in european countries too, but only in few fast food chains (you guessed it, KFC is one of them)
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Fast Food which came from... America
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I'm from New Zealand and we have them here. A lot of places do free refills but not all. Was not aware they were called fountains though.....

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