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#26 - To most people, America=US, because nobody is going to say Uni… 12 hours ago on Don't be fooled 0
#90 - It's not just Americans that call them pussies, and I'm sure t… 09/20/2014 on Random Interesting Facts... +2
#58 - I agree, there are just too many important events that the US … 09/19/2014 on Random Interesting Facts... 0
#47 - Who knows what would have happened if the US hadn't joined the…  [+] (4 new replies) 09/19/2014 on Random Interesting Facts... +1
#50 - franceopplsnerf (09/19/2014) [-]
WW1 leads directly to WW2. A different outcome in WW1 means that WW2 does not happen or is greatly altered. If the Entente won without the US then the peace terms for Germany would have been much harsher, either preventing, heavily delaying, or altering the outcome of the initial stages of WW2. What if there was success with establishing French control over the Rhineland, therefor preventing Germany from using that to invade France in 1940. Without a German success in France they could never succeed in messing up Eastern Europe so much that they could hand it to the Soviets on a silver platter at the end of WW2.

Another possible thing is that if the peace treaty on Germany was too harsh then it could have resulted in a home-grown revolution.

This is just taking one facet of the US not existing and toying around with it, obviously there would be many more important things such as ideological levels, development in the 1800s, technology, ect. ec.t
#135 - 4chan refugee (09/20/2014) [-]
Germany didn't need harsher punishment after WW1, in fact, it was because of the harsh terms of the Treaty of Versailles that Hitler was able to gain support, leading to WW2.
#137 - franceopplsnerf (09/20/2014) [-]
Not really true. Versailles was by the standards of the era relatively lax - the German Septemberprogram which they did as planning in 1914 was much harsher, and their Treaty of Brest Livock was far harder by comparison (Even the German diplomats were pretty shocked by the terms they were being forced to press for). The real problem was that the Germans were not convinced of their defeat. The greatest harm that was ever done to Germany in the 20th century was not either forcing the German military command to surrender instead of just the politicians, or marching on to Berlin. If that had been done there would never have been the stabbed in the back myth that meant that they thought they could challenge the world if only they were more unified.

Versailles was enough to sting without being enough to cripple. Germany would have always been stung, since there was no way they could be left on their own and this would be unpalatable - Alsace Lorraine needed to return to France, Poland needed to be re-constituted, reparations were going to happen just as they had in 1871. All of the Central Powers were also assigned cause for starting the war. There is no conceivable way the Allies would forgo this. Germany had also rejected reconciliation with France. The only way to deal with Germany was to cripple them, and America was the nation that prevented this from happening at Versailles among the big three. We had our reasons for this, but if there was no America and the Entente still won, then WW2 would not have happened, or it would not have been nearly as initially triumphant as it was for Germany.
#58 - mrmcput (09/19/2014) [-]
I agree, there are just too many important events that the US caused or participated in, regardless of how some people feel about it, for us to even begin to guess how it not existing would have affected history
#6 - And the US is the only reason France doesn't speak Russian. We…  [+] (10 new replies) 09/19/2014 on Random Interesting Facts... +134
User avatar #129 - clechyl (09/20/2014) [-]
Apart from Germany of course.
User avatar #86 - hydraetis (09/20/2014) [-]
You may be even, but a shitload of americans still bash France and call them pussies.
#109 - 4chan refugee (09/20/2014) [-]
The French are rude cunts, everyone hates them and they hate everyone.
#90 - mrmcput (09/20/2014) [-]
It's not just Americans that call them pussies, and I'm sure the French talk plenty of shit about Americans as well.
#44 - franceopplsnerf (09/19/2014) [-]
Given that if there wasn't an America there would be a very different global geographical distribution, it is entirely feasible that a state like the USSR would never have existed. On the other hand, while US participation in WW1 is somewhat overstated, the Entente probably would have lost without our material support.
#47 - mrmcput (09/19/2014) [-]
Who knows what would have happened if the US hadn't joined the allies in WW1. Sure Germany was in bad shape, but France and Britain sure as hell weren't doing any better, and Russia was a little too busy fighting itself to be of any use to anyone. Besides, I was talking about WW2.
#50 - franceopplsnerf (09/19/2014) [-]
WW1 leads directly to WW2. A different outcome in WW1 means that WW2 does not happen or is greatly altered. If the Entente won without the US then the peace terms for Germany would have been much harsher, either preventing, heavily delaying, or altering the outcome of the initial stages of WW2. What if there was success with establishing French control over the Rhineland, therefor preventing Germany from using that to invade France in 1940. Without a German success in France they could never succeed in messing up Eastern Europe so much that they could hand it to the Soviets on a silver platter at the end of WW2.

Another possible thing is that if the peace treaty on Germany was too harsh then it could have resulted in a home-grown revolution.

This is just taking one facet of the US not existing and toying around with it, obviously there would be many more important things such as ideological levels, development in the 1800s, technology, ect. ec.t
#135 - 4chan refugee (09/20/2014) [-]
Germany didn't need harsher punishment after WW1, in fact, it was because of the harsh terms of the Treaty of Versailles that Hitler was able to gain support, leading to WW2.
#137 - franceopplsnerf (09/20/2014) [-]
Not really true. Versailles was by the standards of the era relatively lax - the German Septemberprogram which they did as planning in 1914 was much harsher, and their Treaty of Brest Livock was far harder by comparison (Even the German diplomats were pretty shocked by the terms they were being forced to press for). The real problem was that the Germans were not convinced of their defeat. The greatest harm that was ever done to Germany in the 20th century was not either forcing the German military command to surrender instead of just the politicians, or marching on to Berlin. If that had been done there would never have been the stabbed in the back myth that meant that they thought they could challenge the world if only they were more unified.

Versailles was enough to sting without being enough to cripple. Germany would have always been stung, since there was no way they could be left on their own and this would be unpalatable - Alsace Lorraine needed to return to France, Poland needed to be re-constituted, reparations were going to happen just as they had in 1871. All of the Central Powers were also assigned cause for starting the war. There is no conceivable way the Allies would forgo this. Germany had also rejected reconciliation with France. The only way to deal with Germany was to cripple them, and America was the nation that prevented this from happening at Versailles among the big three. We had our reasons for this, but if there was no America and the Entente still won, then WW2 would not have happened, or it would not have been nearly as initially triumphant as it was for Germany.
#58 - mrmcput (09/19/2014) [-]
I agree, there are just too many important events that the US caused or participated in, regardless of how some people feel about it, for us to even begin to guess how it not existing would have affected history
#35 - There are plenty of American shows with tits and swearing. You…  [+] (1 new reply) 09/19/2014 on Europe +3
#49 - moechler (09/19/2014) [-]
PEGI 18
#17 - funny feels. or not so funny feels 09/18/2014 on we have won 0
#82 - >Be about 6 or 7. >Go to restaurant with my extende… 09/15/2014 on How Anon became an atheist +3
#39 - Merry Christmas.  [+] (3 new replies) 09/13/2014 on my favorite part +8
#46 - Ulmer (09/13/2014) [-]
#41 - CyborgNinja (09/13/2014) [-]
I think you might have taken that too literal...
#91 - inept (09/13/2014) [-]
#6 - That's the point. He's called BAD JOKE Amon.  [+] (1 new reply) 09/12/2014 on Bad Joke Amon 14 +7
User avatar #7 - xehanortscrack (09/12/2014) [-]
I like puns, and other bad jokes. This was funny to begin with but now it's just painful. It'
s almost like reposting the same shitty joke once a day.
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