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I'm a rather strange person with weird tastes and opinion, though probably not offensive. Well, it is you any way who decides what is and what is not to you.

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#171 - I'm guessing you're a lot more into action-animes?  [+] (6 new replies) 12/14/2012 on Sounds about right 0
#172 - captainp (12/14/2012) [-]
Yea I like them quite a lot, but I'm mostly into comedy/romance oriented shows with a twists.
I've never got how people above certain age can consider shows like K-On! and Lucky Star even remotely funny. It's not anime for everyone - that's for sure and I see how people can like watching cute stuff and how they connect with characters in their normal school life, but funny? I find myself totally bored and jokes don't even result in a smile. I'm not snobish person. I totally love School Rumble, Ouran Host Club and other comedy shows.
If you recommend K-On or similar shows to anyone don't call them funny, when they are not. People on internet are funny when they use those cute smiles and characters with funny punch lines.
#176 - borsalino (12/14/2012) [-]
I found it funny, and I'd tell people interested in it that it's funny, though according to you I can't call it funny because you did not find it funny?
#177 - captainp (12/14/2012) [-]
Well when you put it like that. No of course not.
However by recommending people shows like K-On! by saying "it's funny" you can find yourself under fire afterwards as those shows are NOT for everyone and their main attribute is certainly not humor, but more light hearted 'slice of life' thing and cuteness.
#178 - captainp (12/14/2012) [-]
It's like recommending transformers, because 'it's a funny movie' and people looking for decent level of smart humor will be crushed by awkward scenes where robots piss on people and 'plastic personality' parents talk about masturbation.
User avatar #173 - moonwire (12/14/2012) [-]
I find it funny ._. Everyone have their own tastes I guess. Might also be related to how I normally don't watch comedy anime though.
#174 - captainp (12/14/2012) [-]
You have interesting sense of humor, but I respect that.
#36 - If you eat multiple they can connect through "barriers&q… 12/13/2012 on Magnets 0
#121 - Well, he went crazy and one of his last, if not THE last paint… 12/12/2012 on i dunno about you 0
#119 - He actually went mad before trying to kill himself so...  [+] (2 new replies) 12/12/2012 on i dunno about you +1
User avatar #120 - aquae (12/12/2012) [-]
Well yeah, but I think the confidence the Doctor gave him should have been enough.
Although it would've created a paradox of some sort, I think.
User avatar #121 - moonwire (12/12/2012) [-]
Well, he went crazy and one of his last, if not THE last painting (this is only my opinion though) was of the TARDIS blowing to smithereens. You could say that this event was so grand his mind could not handle it.

Think of it as similar to when Rose absorbed the Time Vortex/Matrix (?) and her mind was not capable of handling it, she would have died if 9th hadn't absorbed it.
#22 - You accidentally the sense of your sentence. And your mom. 12/09/2012 on A dilemma for you. 0
#18 - Go wash your mouth with soap, kid. But yeah, I can see what yo… 12/09/2012 on A dilemma for you. +3
#16 - Continuing from the previous reply, how can I be bitching when…  [+] (2 new replies) 12/09/2012 on A dilemma for you. +3
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User avatar #18 - moonwire (12/09/2012) [-]
Go wash your mouth with soap, kid. But yeah, I can see what you're saying.
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#13 - But I'm OP .-.  [+] (1 new reply) 12/09/2012 on A dilemma for you. +7
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#8 - To anyone who might not get the joke here, the 'f' key is righ…  [+] (6 new replies) 12/09/2012 on A dilemma for you. -6
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User avatar #16 - moonwire (12/09/2012) [-]
Continuing from the previous reply, how can I be bitching when people apparently don't get my joke. Either that, or they're just curious about how big something fuck-sized is. I'm still not quite sure why I'm getting downvoted though >.>
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User avatar #18 - moonwire (12/09/2012) [-]
Go wash your mouth with soap, kid. But yeah, I can see what you're saying.
User avatar #13 - moonwire (12/09/2012) [-]
But I'm OP .-.
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#2 - That I can't.  [+] (1 new reply) 12/08/2012 on Because I can +1
User avatar #3 - yolvag (12/08/2012) [-]
lol
#93 - It's not very deep though. WE NEED TO GO DEEPER.  [+] (1 new reply) 12/07/2012 on beautiful lyrics +2
User avatar #104 - owmyanus (12/07/2012) [-]
rihanna-ception
#35 - Oh look, funny oc! 11/19/2012 on XXX Shower Scene +2
#329 - Oh god, genius 11/16/2012 on Dating the president's... +2
#218 - Mostly agree, although I was confused by the great movies plac… 11/16/2012 on Tim Burton and Johnny... +2
#634 - You think we can go over to another medium now, like fb or som… 11/13/2012 on Life & Death +1
#632 - Had to go to bed and school (still there) >.> I…  [+] (1 new reply) 11/13/2012 on Life & Death +1
User avatar #637 - englman (11/13/2012) [-]
Lol I understand, I had to go to my Chemistry class earlier yesterday.

I think I get what you're saying about the "Button & Polar Bear" ideas. They're very interesting, I hadn't thought about it in that way before.
I also personally wonder this; If they didn't have the knowledge of Good and Evil yet, how did they even make the 'evil decision' to disobey God? (Things get weird there lol)

Either way though, I mostly meant we have free-will now. Whether it was from an ancient fruit in a sacred garden, or just given to us as a gift from God (possibly through evolution), will probably stay unknown. The point is we have it now and that's what allows us to strive to be like God, or strive to be unlike Him.

As far as another medium goes, I don't use FaceBook or anything like that, sorry :/
My friends think I'm nuts, but It appears to only get people into trouble sooner or later lol.
#408 - Please do come with something where science and religion work …  [+] (6 new replies) 11/12/2012 on Life & Death +1
User avatar #564 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
To try to quickly answer your second question. We've always had "right" and "wrong", we've also had free-will from the beginning.
We have the ABILITY to be good and be more like God. But all too often we choose the latter.

And that may also be evolutionary? We are designed to work a certain way, and that may be part of the reason we work that way at all. It doesn't disprove or prove anything really.

It all just depends on how you look at it. (The major thing that determines whether you believe in something, or you don't.)

I would guess that free-will is the key term.
User avatar #632 - moonwire (11/13/2012) [-]
Had to go to bed and school (still there) >.>

I don't think we had much free will before we actually ate from the fruit of knowledge, the way it's put, it gave knowledge of right and wrong, something essential to utilize free will properly. It would be similar to a little kid being told to not push a big, red, shiny button in the middle of the room without being explained what it does, and when he pushes it, world war 3 starts.
Since the kid would not know what it does or the consequences, it would just become a matter of time and willpower. You're basically telling him not to think of a white polar bear as hard as possible, which is simply impossible as long as you would have to focus on the task (there's a name for this I think).
User avatar #637 - englman (11/13/2012) [-]
Lol I understand, I had to go to my Chemistry class earlier yesterday.

I think I get what you're saying about the "Button & Polar Bear" ideas. They're very interesting, I hadn't thought about it in that way before.
I also personally wonder this; If they didn't have the knowledge of Good and Evil yet, how did they even make the 'evil decision' to disobey God? (Things get weird there lol)

Either way though, I mostly meant we have free-will now. Whether it was from an ancient fruit in a sacred garden, or just given to us as a gift from God (possibly through evolution), will probably stay unknown. The point is we have it now and that's what allows us to strive to be like God, or strive to be unlike Him.

As far as another medium goes, I don't use FaceBook or anything like that, sorry :/
My friends think I'm nuts, but It appears to only get people into trouble sooner or later lol.
User avatar #529 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
This is an enormous question, but I'll try to answer it as best as I can, then we can go from there.
Okay, first let me say that I more accurately mean "God and Science work together." Meaning God doesn't completely clash with Science, and Science doesn't completely clash with God.

Science is essentially studying how the world around us works. We make observations and run experiments to see if our predictions are true. We can also use Statistical data to draw the likely-hood of things that aren't so easily proved (Figuring out where an electron is at any given moment).

Add God and now we could develop several different views:

1)Everything Scientifically observed is just a product of many chain reactions and chance throughout the span of our Universes existence.** [Ex]- We exist because the Big Bang happened, our planet was in the right place at the right time, and we eventually formed from a certain event that has an astronomical statistical likely-hood going against it. We could be completely wrong. We don't know if it's provable.**

2)Everything Scientifically observed was created by God, the answer to its workings is ultimately God, and everything that happens is for some greater purpose.** [Ex]- We exist because God created us in the way that Genesis states and the events that followed were the consequences of our free-will. This could be misinterpreted, it could be literal, it could be false. It isn't really provable.**

3)Everything Scientifically observed is a mixture of God and Science combined. [Ex]- We exist because God created the Physical laws for our Universe and set everything up to work in a way that follows those laws. He also follows these laws for the most part, thus if #1 is true, He could be WHY we beat the statistical odds. Or things could be completely different than we think. This isn't really provable

One moment for the next bit.
User avatar #550 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
Thinking in the third way is what I do. It allows you to see things in a different way in my opinion.

Ex) Higgs Boson Particle- It is the particle responsible for mass, so it gets pegged as the "God Particle" because without it, NOTHING would be possible.

No mass = No life, and much more.

Many Atheists say it disproves God because it's a Scientific explanation for how we came to be, and how evolution could be possible. (Thus we wouldn't need God.)

Many Christian Scientists, however, believe that it was ultimately created to allow for us to live and exist in the first place, along with everything else. Something to the effect of this can even be found in the Bible. I cant quote it exactly, but it's to the effect of "I am invisible and hold everything together, and without Me there is nothing." (I'm sure I butchered what's actually said lol..) This would be true without the Higgs Boson. That may be our minds putting two-and-two together as we would see fit. But honestly who could say?

The Bible also warns against things like porn. Is this because some cranky old men that can't get it up wanted to take away everyone elses' fun? Or because pornography has adverse Sociological and Psychological side effects that we wouldn't discover until much later?

The Bible talks about singing stars as well, something we didn't learn until many years later.

There's tons of things that line-up, and tons of things that can be looked at in more than one way. So you understand if it seems like i'm having a difficult time answering your question lol.

I'll happily attempt to answer as many questions as you have, but this one is kind of too big to go into everything :/ I'd have to tell you EVERYTHING that I've researched in the past 4 years.
User avatar #634 - moonwire (11/13/2012) [-]
You think we can go over to another medium now, like fb or something, this is getting kinda out of hand :p
#356 - I have to disagree with that second last paragraph, I am intri…  [+] (8 new replies) 11/12/2012 on Life & Death +1
User avatar #368 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
Examples of Science and Religion working together, or?..

And keep in mind that the Bible says we're made in His image. However, it is thought by some people that God transcends sexuality. So that would leave our emotions and minds to be partially similar. So while I believe He's vastly above us in His execution of these emotions,(that are also higher forms of ours, i'm sure) we at least share SOME "human" (or God-like, depending on your view) characteristics. So I don't guess it was correct for me to give the example of God being "NOTHING like human in nature."
Sorry for that.

(P.S., I believe the Earth/Universe is the 13 billion that we've basically proven it to be lol.)
User avatar #408 - moonwire (11/12/2012) [-]
Please do come with something where science and religion work together too. I would be referring to God's actions in the bible, and how those separate him from any other deities, regarding how they seem human and man made.

I don't really get what you are saying about how we are made in His image. Humans have been pretty bad to each other the last milleniums or so imo. I have always for most of the time viewed feelings as just an evolutionary step that implemented a guiding system as to properly survive, for an example, the craving for happiness and please makes you chase such things (through mediums like food or money for example, albeit the latter never was a good one) and give you a drive. Pain makes you avoid harmful things. Love has a tendency to make people make more people.
User avatar #564 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
To try to quickly answer your second question. We've always had "right" and "wrong", we've also had free-will from the beginning.
We have the ABILITY to be good and be more like God. But all too often we choose the latter.

And that may also be evolutionary? We are designed to work a certain way, and that may be part of the reason we work that way at all. It doesn't disprove or prove anything really.

It all just depends on how you look at it. (The major thing that determines whether you believe in something, or you don't.)

I would guess that free-will is the key term.
User avatar #632 - moonwire (11/13/2012) [-]
Had to go to bed and school (still there) >.>

I don't think we had much free will before we actually ate from the fruit of knowledge, the way it's put, it gave knowledge of right and wrong, something essential to utilize free will properly. It would be similar to a little kid being told to not push a big, red, shiny button in the middle of the room without being explained what it does, and when he pushes it, world war 3 starts.
Since the kid would not know what it does or the consequences, it would just become a matter of time and willpower. You're basically telling him not to think of a white polar bear as hard as possible, which is simply impossible as long as you would have to focus on the task (there's a name for this I think).
User avatar #637 - englman (11/13/2012) [-]
Lol I understand, I had to go to my Chemistry class earlier yesterday.

I think I get what you're saying about the "Button & Polar Bear" ideas. They're very interesting, I hadn't thought about it in that way before.
I also personally wonder this; If they didn't have the knowledge of Good and Evil yet, how did they even make the 'evil decision' to disobey God? (Things get weird there lol)

Either way though, I mostly meant we have free-will now. Whether it was from an ancient fruit in a sacred garden, or just given to us as a gift from God (possibly through evolution), will probably stay unknown. The point is we have it now and that's what allows us to strive to be like God, or strive to be unlike Him.

As far as another medium goes, I don't use FaceBook or anything like that, sorry :/
My friends think I'm nuts, but It appears to only get people into trouble sooner or later lol.
User avatar #529 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
This is an enormous question, but I'll try to answer it as best as I can, then we can go from there.
Okay, first let me say that I more accurately mean "God and Science work together." Meaning God doesn't completely clash with Science, and Science doesn't completely clash with God.

Science is essentially studying how the world around us works. We make observations and run experiments to see if our predictions are true. We can also use Statistical data to draw the likely-hood of things that aren't so easily proved (Figuring out where an electron is at any given moment).

Add God and now we could develop several different views:

1)Everything Scientifically observed is just a product of many chain reactions and chance throughout the span of our Universes existence.** [Ex]- We exist because the Big Bang happened, our planet was in the right place at the right time, and we eventually formed from a certain event that has an astronomical statistical likely-hood going against it. We could be completely wrong. We don't know if it's provable.**

2)Everything Scientifically observed was created by God, the answer to its workings is ultimately God, and everything that happens is for some greater purpose.** [Ex]- We exist because God created us in the way that Genesis states and the events that followed were the consequences of our free-will. This could be misinterpreted, it could be literal, it could be false. It isn't really provable.**

3)Everything Scientifically observed is a mixture of God and Science combined. [Ex]- We exist because God created the Physical laws for our Universe and set everything up to work in a way that follows those laws. He also follows these laws for the most part, thus if #1 is true, He could be WHY we beat the statistical odds. Or things could be completely different than we think. This isn't really provable

One moment for the next bit.
User avatar #550 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
Thinking in the third way is what I do. It allows you to see things in a different way in my opinion.

Ex) Higgs Boson Particle- It is the particle responsible for mass, so it gets pegged as the "God Particle" because without it, NOTHING would be possible.

No mass = No life, and much more.

Many Atheists say it disproves God because it's a Scientific explanation for how we came to be, and how evolution could be possible. (Thus we wouldn't need God.)

Many Christian Scientists, however, believe that it was ultimately created to allow for us to live and exist in the first place, along with everything else. Something to the effect of this can even be found in the Bible. I cant quote it exactly, but it's to the effect of "I am invisible and hold everything together, and without Me there is nothing." (I'm sure I butchered what's actually said lol..) This would be true without the Higgs Boson. That may be our minds putting two-and-two together as we would see fit. But honestly who could say?

The Bible also warns against things like porn. Is this because some cranky old men that can't get it up wanted to take away everyone elses' fun? Or because pornography has adverse Sociological and Psychological side effects that we wouldn't discover until much later?

The Bible talks about singing stars as well, something we didn't learn until many years later.

There's tons of things that line-up, and tons of things that can be looked at in more than one way. So you understand if it seems like i'm having a difficult time answering your question lol.

I'll happily attempt to answer as many questions as you have, but this one is kind of too big to go into everything :/ I'd have to tell you EVERYTHING that I've researched in the past 4 years.
User avatar #634 - moonwire (11/13/2012) [-]
You think we can go over to another medium now, like fb or something, this is getting kinda out of hand :p
#138 - I'm pretty sure realism is for those who like to be right, pes…  [+] (1 new reply) 11/12/2012 on Life & Death +2
User avatar #202 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
THAT I agree with.
#137 - FAIRLY-ODD-PARENTS?! (No offense, I'm not gonna start some hur…  [+] (10 new replies) 11/12/2012 on Life & Death +1
User avatar #230 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
Don't 'dog yourself' lol, you don't sound silly.

Too many people seem way too afraid to think about such a thing as a God. Mostly because of the way that people who think about "those kinds of things" get portrayed.

In studying Science and Religion I've discovered (for myself anyway) that they work together beautifully. You have to approach it logically and in an unbiased way though (really hard since we're human). Everything in our universe does have a beginning and an end. A Theoretical Physicist might argue with you, but their equations haven't proven their ideas (YET anyway).

Back when he was alive, this was unsettling for Einstein, because it DID suggest at least a god of SOME sort. He ultimately ended up believing it was a deistic type of god too, but I disagree. If you study the characters of the gods in all the Religions, they seem rather human AND very man-made (my opinion, but it's fairly observable through their Holy Books).

The only exception I've found is the Christian God. From the outside He appears angry and jealous, ready to smite humanity because we aren't bowing to His "enormous ego", as many people seem to believe. However, if you CAREFULLY study His character and (as arrogant as this sounds) try to "put yourself in His shoes", (non-mockingly, carefully, etc.) it allows you to see things differently. Suddenly He makes much more sense (at least to our finite knowledge).

But this was originally Philosophy, and I turned it into a Theology lesson lol.
User avatar #356 - moonwire (11/12/2012) [-]
I have to disagree with that second last paragraph, I am intrigued though by what you mean, would you care to share any examples?

Even when going through his (His) actions, I believe they are by far on a human standard, not on the level of an omnipotent being who had 13 billion years to wait for humanity (assuming you don't believe in the 7000-or-so old earth here)
User avatar #368 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
Examples of Science and Religion working together, or?..

And keep in mind that the Bible says we're made in His image. However, it is thought by some people that God transcends sexuality. So that would leave our emotions and minds to be partially similar. So while I believe He's vastly above us in His execution of these emotions,(that are also higher forms of ours, i'm sure) we at least share SOME "human" (or God-like, depending on your view) characteristics. So I don't guess it was correct for me to give the example of God being "NOTHING like human in nature."
Sorry for that.

(P.S., I believe the Earth/Universe is the 13 billion that we've basically proven it to be lol.)
User avatar #408 - moonwire (11/12/2012) [-]
Please do come with something where science and religion work together too. I would be referring to God's actions in the bible, and how those separate him from any other deities, regarding how they seem human and man made.

I don't really get what you are saying about how we are made in His image. Humans have been pretty bad to each other the last milleniums or so imo. I have always for most of the time viewed feelings as just an evolutionary step that implemented a guiding system as to properly survive, for an example, the craving for happiness and please makes you chase such things (through mediums like food or money for example, albeit the latter never was a good one) and give you a drive. Pain makes you avoid harmful things. Love has a tendency to make people make more people.
User avatar #564 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
To try to quickly answer your second question. We've always had "right" and "wrong", we've also had free-will from the beginning.
We have the ABILITY to be good and be more like God. But all too often we choose the latter.

And that may also be evolutionary? We are designed to work a certain way, and that may be part of the reason we work that way at all. It doesn't disprove or prove anything really.

It all just depends on how you look at it. (The major thing that determines whether you believe in something, or you don't.)

I would guess that free-will is the key term.
User avatar #632 - moonwire (11/13/2012) [-]
Had to go to bed and school (still there) >.>

I don't think we had much free will before we actually ate from the fruit of knowledge, the way it's put, it gave knowledge of right and wrong, something essential to utilize free will properly. It would be similar to a little kid being told to not push a big, red, shiny button in the middle of the room without being explained what it does, and when he pushes it, world war 3 starts.
Since the kid would not know what it does or the consequences, it would just become a matter of time and willpower. You're basically telling him not to think of a white polar bear as hard as possible, which is simply impossible as long as you would have to focus on the task (there's a name for this I think).
User avatar #637 - englman (11/13/2012) [-]
Lol I understand, I had to go to my Chemistry class earlier yesterday.

I think I get what you're saying about the "Button & Polar Bear" ideas. They're very interesting, I hadn't thought about it in that way before.
I also personally wonder this; If they didn't have the knowledge of Good and Evil yet, how did they even make the 'evil decision' to disobey God? (Things get weird there lol)

Either way though, I mostly meant we have free-will now. Whether it was from an ancient fruit in a sacred garden, or just given to us as a gift from God (possibly through evolution), will probably stay unknown. The point is we have it now and that's what allows us to strive to be like God, or strive to be unlike Him.

As far as another medium goes, I don't use FaceBook or anything like that, sorry :/
My friends think I'm nuts, but It appears to only get people into trouble sooner or later lol.
User avatar #529 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
This is an enormous question, but I'll try to answer it as best as I can, then we can go from there.
Okay, first let me say that I more accurately mean "God and Science work together." Meaning God doesn't completely clash with Science, and Science doesn't completely clash with God.

Science is essentially studying how the world around us works. We make observations and run experiments to see if our predictions are true. We can also use Statistical data to draw the likely-hood of things that aren't so easily proved (Figuring out where an electron is at any given moment).

Add God and now we could develop several different views:

1)Everything Scientifically observed is just a product of many chain reactions and chance throughout the span of our Universes existence.** [Ex]- We exist because the Big Bang happened, our planet was in the right place at the right time, and we eventually formed from a certain event that has an astronomical statistical likely-hood going against it. We could be completely wrong. We don't know if it's provable.**

2)Everything Scientifically observed was created by God, the answer to its workings is ultimately God, and everything that happens is for some greater purpose.** [Ex]- We exist because God created us in the way that Genesis states and the events that followed were the consequences of our free-will. This could be misinterpreted, it could be literal, it could be false. It isn't really provable.**

3)Everything Scientifically observed is a mixture of God and Science combined. [Ex]- We exist because God created the Physical laws for our Universe and set everything up to work in a way that follows those laws. He also follows these laws for the most part, thus if #1 is true, He could be WHY we beat the statistical odds. Or things could be completely different than we think. This isn't really provable

One moment for the next bit.
User avatar #550 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
Thinking in the third way is what I do. It allows you to see things in a different way in my opinion.

Ex) Higgs Boson Particle- It is the particle responsible for mass, so it gets pegged as the "God Particle" because without it, NOTHING would be possible.

No mass = No life, and much more.

Many Atheists say it disproves God because it's a Scientific explanation for how we came to be, and how evolution could be possible. (Thus we wouldn't need God.)

Many Christian Scientists, however, believe that it was ultimately created to allow for us to live and exist in the first place, along with everything else. Something to the effect of this can even be found in the Bible. I cant quote it exactly, but it's to the effect of "I am invisible and hold everything together, and without Me there is nothing." (I'm sure I butchered what's actually said lol..) This would be true without the Higgs Boson. That may be our minds putting two-and-two together as we would see fit. But honestly who could say?

The Bible also warns against things like porn. Is this because some cranky old men that can't get it up wanted to take away everyone elses' fun? Or because pornography has adverse Sociological and Psychological side effects that we wouldn't discover until much later?

The Bible talks about singing stars as well, something we didn't learn until many years later.

There's tons of things that line-up, and tons of things that can be looked at in more than one way. So you understand if it seems like i'm having a difficult time answering your question lol.

I'll happily attempt to answer as many questions as you have, but this one is kind of too big to go into everything :/ I'd have to tell you EVERYTHING that I've researched in the past 4 years.
User avatar #634 - moonwire (11/13/2012) [-]
You think we can go over to another medium now, like fb or something, this is getting kinda out of hand :p
#124 - I guess you could say life is no longer true when you die. You…  [+] (12 new replies) 11/12/2012 on Life & Death +4
User avatar #127 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
Not at all. I'm Christian and I still agree with you. Once you die, life as you(and everyone around you) know it is done either way. Death is permanent in the way we understand and define life, but it gets iffy the deeper you go. Contemplate existence in place of life.
#137 - moonwire (11/12/2012) [-]
FAIRLY-ODD-PARENTS?! (No offense, I'm not gonna start some hurr-durr-you-a-christian? comment spree)
Existence is more interesting indeed, because something almost needs to be the starting point, and at such a point I would consider the existence of something like a "god", although imo it would be a deistic kind of god. Otherwise, my bet is on a continuous loop with nothing that resembles an "end" or a "beginning" as defined by humans.

... Yup, I'm still sounding silly.
User avatar #230 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
Don't 'dog yourself' lol, you don't sound silly.

Too many people seem way too afraid to think about such a thing as a God. Mostly because of the way that people who think about "those kinds of things" get portrayed.

In studying Science and Religion I've discovered (for myself anyway) that they work together beautifully. You have to approach it logically and in an unbiased way though (really hard since we're human). Everything in our universe does have a beginning and an end. A Theoretical Physicist might argue with you, but their equations haven't proven their ideas (YET anyway).

Back when he was alive, this was unsettling for Einstein, because it DID suggest at least a god of SOME sort. He ultimately ended up believing it was a deistic type of god too, but I disagree. If you study the characters of the gods in all the Religions, they seem rather human AND very man-made (my opinion, but it's fairly observable through their Holy Books).

The only exception I've found is the Christian God. From the outside He appears angry and jealous, ready to smite humanity because we aren't bowing to His "enormous ego", as many people seem to believe. However, if you CAREFULLY study His character and (as arrogant as this sounds) try to "put yourself in His shoes", (non-mockingly, carefully, etc.) it allows you to see things differently. Suddenly He makes much more sense (at least to our finite knowledge).

But this was originally Philosophy, and I turned it into a Theology lesson lol.
User avatar #356 - moonwire (11/12/2012) [-]
I have to disagree with that second last paragraph, I am intrigued though by what you mean, would you care to share any examples?

Even when going through his (His) actions, I believe they are by far on a human standard, not on the level of an omnipotent being who had 13 billion years to wait for humanity (assuming you don't believe in the 7000-or-so old earth here)
User avatar #368 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
Examples of Science and Religion working together, or?..

And keep in mind that the Bible says we're made in His image. However, it is thought by some people that God transcends sexuality. So that would leave our emotions and minds to be partially similar. So while I believe He's vastly above us in His execution of these emotions,(that are also higher forms of ours, i'm sure) we at least share SOME "human" (or God-like, depending on your view) characteristics. So I don't guess it was correct for me to give the example of God being "NOTHING like human in nature."
Sorry for that.

(P.S., I believe the Earth/Universe is the 13 billion that we've basically proven it to be lol.)
User avatar #408 - moonwire (11/12/2012) [-]
Please do come with something where science and religion work together too. I would be referring to God's actions in the bible, and how those separate him from any other deities, regarding how they seem human and man made.

I don't really get what you are saying about how we are made in His image. Humans have been pretty bad to each other the last milleniums or so imo. I have always for most of the time viewed feelings as just an evolutionary step that implemented a guiding system as to properly survive, for an example, the craving for happiness and please makes you chase such things (through mediums like food or money for example, albeit the latter never was a good one) and give you a drive. Pain makes you avoid harmful things. Love has a tendency to make people make more people.
User avatar #564 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
To try to quickly answer your second question. We've always had "right" and "wrong", we've also had free-will from the beginning.
We have the ABILITY to be good and be more like God. But all too often we choose the latter.

And that may also be evolutionary? We are designed to work a certain way, and that may be part of the reason we work that way at all. It doesn't disprove or prove anything really.

It all just depends on how you look at it. (The major thing that determines whether you believe in something, or you don't.)

I would guess that free-will is the key term.
User avatar #632 - moonwire (11/13/2012) [-]
Had to go to bed and school (still there) >.>

I don't think we had much free will before we actually ate from the fruit of knowledge, the way it's put, it gave knowledge of right and wrong, something essential to utilize free will properly. It would be similar to a little kid being told to not push a big, red, shiny button in the middle of the room without being explained what it does, and when he pushes it, world war 3 starts.
Since the kid would not know what it does or the consequences, it would just become a matter of time and willpower. You're basically telling him not to think of a white polar bear as hard as possible, which is simply impossible as long as you would have to focus on the task (there's a name for this I think).
User avatar #637 - englman (11/13/2012) [-]
Lol I understand, I had to go to my Chemistry class earlier yesterday.

I think I get what you're saying about the "Button & Polar Bear" ideas. They're very interesting, I hadn't thought about it in that way before.
I also personally wonder this; If they didn't have the knowledge of Good and Evil yet, how did they even make the 'evil decision' to disobey God? (Things get weird there lol)

Either way though, I mostly meant we have free-will now. Whether it was from an ancient fruit in a sacred garden, or just given to us as a gift from God (possibly through evolution), will probably stay unknown. The point is we have it now and that's what allows us to strive to be like God, or strive to be unlike Him.

As far as another medium goes, I don't use FaceBook or anything like that, sorry :/
My friends think I'm nuts, but It appears to only get people into trouble sooner or later lol.
User avatar #529 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
This is an enormous question, but I'll try to answer it as best as I can, then we can go from there.
Okay, first let me say that I more accurately mean "God and Science work together." Meaning God doesn't completely clash with Science, and Science doesn't completely clash with God.

Science is essentially studying how the world around us works. We make observations and run experiments to see if our predictions are true. We can also use Statistical data to draw the likely-hood of things that aren't so easily proved (Figuring out where an electron is at any given moment).

Add God and now we could develop several different views:

1)Everything Scientifically observed is just a product of many chain reactions and chance throughout the span of our Universes existence.** [Ex]- We exist because the Big Bang happened, our planet was in the right place at the right time, and we eventually formed from a certain event that has an astronomical statistical likely-hood going against it. We could be completely wrong. We don't know if it's provable.**

2)Everything Scientifically observed was created by God, the answer to its workings is ultimately God, and everything that happens is for some greater purpose.** [Ex]- We exist because God created us in the way that Genesis states and the events that followed were the consequences of our free-will. This could be misinterpreted, it could be literal, it could be false. It isn't really provable.**

3)Everything Scientifically observed is a mixture of God and Science combined. [Ex]- We exist because God created the Physical laws for our Universe and set everything up to work in a way that follows those laws. He also follows these laws for the most part, thus if #1 is true, He could be WHY we beat the statistical odds. Or things could be completely different than we think. This isn't really provable

One moment for the next bit.
User avatar #550 - englman (11/12/2012) [-]
Thinking in the third way is what I do. It allows you to see things in a different way in my opinion.

Ex) Higgs Boson Particle- It is the particle responsible for mass, so it gets pegged as the "God Particle" because without it, NOTHING would be possible.

No mass = No life, and much more.

Many Atheists say it disproves God because it's a Scientific explanation for how we came to be, and how evolution could be possible. (Thus we wouldn't need God.)

Many Christian Scientists, however, believe that it was ultimately created to allow for us to live and exist in the first place, along with everything else. Something to the effect of this can even be found in the Bible. I cant quote it exactly, but it's to the effect of "I am invisible and hold everything together, and without Me there is nothing." (I'm sure I butchered what's actually said lol..) This would be true without the Higgs Boson. That may be our minds putting two-and-two together as we would see fit. But honestly who could say?

The Bible also warns against things like porn. Is this because some cranky old men that can't get it up wanted to take away everyone elses' fun? Or because pornography has adverse Sociological and Psychological side effects that we wouldn't discover until much later?

The Bible talks about singing stars as well, something we didn't learn until many years later.

There's tons of things that line-up, and tons of things that can be looked at in more than one way. So you understand if it seems like i'm having a difficult time answering your question lol.

I'll happily attempt to answer as many questions as you have, but this one is kind of too big to go into everything :/ I'd have to tell you EVERYTHING that I've researched in the past 4 years.
User avatar #634 - moonwire (11/13/2012) [-]
You think we can go over to another medium now, like fb or something, this is getting kinda out of hand :p
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