So much better with sound

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Or maybe a hot dog.

Oh I will compare it.

many governments have had suicidal warriors throughout history.
Jews sent warriors on suicidal attacks during the roman occupation. They weren't the Life of Brian suicide squads either...
In fact, while i'm not using it as evidence, even the bible had suicidal attackers, meaning it probably extends back a long time.
India had Chavers to resist the Chola dynasty in the 11th century.
the first actual suicide bomber was Russian, and the idea was picked up by chinese revolutionaries (who, I must remind you, later went on and dealt a significant blow to religion in China.)
Then there are the very famous Kamikaze pilots, who, and this is very important, were promised glory onto their houses for bravely defending the empire. How is being promised glory they will never see different from being promised virgin pussy they can't have right now? I'll let you muse over that as I also point out that the Germans had Selbstopfereinsatz during the battle of Berlin. Basically Kamikazes but would target Soviet held bridges. They really didn't do all that well in all honesty, but did knock over one bridge at the very least.

and finally North Koreans had explosive tanks.

And need I remind you of the Rape of Nanking and Gulags had absolutely no religious background. Americans and Vietcong stole gold teeth from the fallen and kept mementos, such as guns, ears, and whole limbs.

My point is simple. If one rejects religion because of violence and self perpetuation, then logically rejecting government is the conclusion. I've heard some jokingly say that we don't need religion because our governments kill us just fine.

So, I ask, Are you an anarchist? You are, after all, halfway there.

Wow. Did you just research all those because I said you can't compare them ?
Your historical facts are nice and well. And your observation is fine as well, but I'm not an Anarchist, I just happened to be raised in Istanbul, in islamic parts, between unofficial groups of em. '' nurcu's '' or '' with-nur '' and some others

I've learned about brain washing, which was the spark of my first comment, that '' we already have superior brain washing, and you can see it in radical groups '' ( which are mostly admiral ackbars' terrorist friends from the middle east )

That was all I said. I didn't say that there are no other kamikaze style succesful brain washing methods / facts in the history. Do not get me wrong. And your facts are good facts too, very educative. So I think we both agree that the ultimate brain washing is real and it has done and being done. You call it radicalism, I call it modern religions, those are our opinions mmkay ?

Also, your no gods no masters arch enemy ? picture doesn't suit with your '' Can I sex to your fedora collection '' kinda commenting. Just saying.

I think it is more sociopathic leaders offering dirt farmers a way up the social ladder that formed the basis of Mao's Cultural Revolution.

but you are right, perhaps the US Marines does nothing but rewire normal people into warriors that get sent on to fight wars against the communist soldiers wired to fight for their motherland.

and now that I think about it, nothing justifies the bloodshed the Mongol empire brought upon the world. or the Napoleonic wars.

You have convinced me that religion is the true power hungry entities in the world. I am sorry I ever doubted.

Oh I will compare it.

many governments have had suicidal warriors throughout history.
Jews sent warriors on suicidal attacks during the roman occupation. They weren't the Life of Brian suicide squads either...
In fact, while i'm not using it as evidence, even the bible had suicidal attackers, meaning it probably extends back a long time.
India had Chavers to resist the Chola dynasty in the 11th century.
the first actual suicide bomber was Russian, and the idea was picked up by chinese revolutionaries (who, I must remind you, later went on and dealt a significant blow to religion in China.)
Then there are the very famous Kamikaze pilots, who, and this is very important, were promised glory onto their houses for bravely defending the empire. How is being promised glory they will never see different from being promised virgin pussy they can't have right now? I'll let you muse over that as I also point out that the Germans had Selbstopfereinsatz during the battle of Berlin. Basically Kamikazes but would target Soviet held bridges. They really didn't do all that well in all honesty, but did knock over one bridge at the very least.

and finally North Koreans had explosive tanks.

And need I remind you of the Rape of Nanking and Gulags had absolutely no religious background. Americans and Vietcong stole gold teeth from the fallen and kept mementos, such as guns, ears, and whole limbs.

My point is simple. If one rejects religion because of violence and self perpetuation, then logically rejecting government is the conclusion. I've heard some jokingly say that we don't need religion because our governments kill us just fine.

So, I ask, Are you an anarchist? You are, after all, halfway there.

Wow. Did you just research all those because I said you can't compare them ?
Your historical facts are nice and well. And your observation is fine as well, but I'm not an Anarchist, I just happened to be raised in Istanbul, in islamic parts, between unofficial groups of em. '' nurcu's '' or '' with-nur '' and some others

I've learned about brain washing, which was the spark of my first comment, that '' we already have superior brain washing, and you can see it in radical groups '' ( which are mostly admiral ackbars' terrorist friends from the middle east )

That was all I said. I didn't say that there are no other kamikaze style succesful brain washing methods / facts in the history. Do not get me wrong. And your facts are good facts too, very educative. So I think we both agree that the ultimate brain washing is real and it has done and being done. You call it radicalism, I call it modern religions, those are our opinions mmkay ?

Also, your no gods no masters arch enemy ? picture doesn't suit with your '' Can I sex to your fedora collection '' kinda commenting. Just saying.

False equivalence.

Any dogmatic system relies heavily on indoctrination and brainwashing. Look at the different flavors of communism. Most were anti-religious to the extreme, since they saw that as a potential threat to their own dogmatic teachings. Look at the horseshoeing far left, which is just as dogmatic if not moreso than your average stormfag.

Conversely, there are and were many religious cults and practices, and political ideologies, going back as far as antiquity to the dawn of the current era to the middle ages and into modernity that could effectively be summed up as "Do unto others [...]".

You are an Imam?

What in the heavens are you doing demanding decadent homosexual behavior over the internet?

I think it is more sociopathic leaders offering dirt farmers a way up the social ladder that formed the basis of Mao's Cultural Revolution.

but you are right, perhaps the US Marines does nothing but rewire normal people into warriors that get sent on to fight wars against the communist soldiers wired to fight for their motherland.

and now that I think about it, nothing justifies the bloodshed the Mongol empire brought upon the world. or the Napoleonic wars.

You have convinced me that religion is the true power hungry entities in the world. I am sorry I ever doubted.

Oh I will compare it.

many governments have had suicidal warriors throughout history.
Jews sent warriors on suicidal attacks during the roman occupation. They weren't the Life of Brian suicide squads either...
In fact, while i'm not using it as evidence, even the bible had suicidal attackers, meaning it probably extends back a long time.
India had Chavers to resist the Chola dynasty in the 11th century.
the first actual suicide bomber was Russian, and the idea was picked up by chinese revolutionaries (who, I must remind you, later went on and dealt a significant blow to religion in China.)
Then there are the very famous Kamikaze pilots, who, and this is very important, were promised glory onto their houses for bravely defending the empire. How is being promised glory they will never see different from being promised virgin pussy they can't have right now? I'll let you muse over that as I also point out that the Germans had Selbstopfereinsatz during the battle of Berlin. Basically Kamikazes but would target Soviet held bridges. They really didn't do all that well in all honesty, but did knock over one bridge at the very least.

and finally North Koreans had explosive tanks.

And need I remind you of the Rape of Nanking and Gulags had absolutely no religious background. Americans and Vietcong stole gold teeth from the fallen and kept mementos, such as guns, ears, and whole limbs.

My point is simple. If one rejects religion because of violence and self perpetuation, then logically rejecting government is the conclusion. I've heard some jokingly say that we don't need religion because our governments kill us just fine.

So, I ask, Are you an anarchist? You are, after all, halfway there.

Wow. Did you just research all those because I said you can't compare them ?
Your historical facts are nice and well. And your observation is fine as well, but I'm not an Anarchist, I just happened to be raised in Istanbul, in islamic parts, between unofficial groups of em. '' nurcu's '' or '' with-nur '' and some others

I've learned about brain washing, which was the spark of my first comment, that '' we already have superior brain washing, and you can see it in radical groups '' ( which are mostly admiral ackbars' terrorist friends from the middle east )

That was all I said. I didn't say that there are no other kamikaze style succesful brain washing methods / facts in the history. Do not get me wrong. And your facts are good facts too, very educative. So I think we both agree that the ultimate brain washing is real and it has done and being done. You call it radicalism, I call it modern religions, those are our opinions mmkay ?

Also, your no gods no masters arch enemy ? picture doesn't suit with your '' Can I sex to your fedora collection '' kinda commenting. Just saying.