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- Does Matt Smith become the 12th doctor technically?
I'm going to miss him
He's the 12th incarnation of the Time Lord.
He is still the 11th Doctor.
No he's the 12th Doctor.
All incarnations of the Doctor are now considered 'The Doctor'
the 9th didn't for much of his life but after redeeming himself, which 12 now remembers, he is a proper Doctor and should be considered as such.
Smith is the 11th Doctor
That's his official title, as will used by the BBC for marketing purposes. But in the actual show, he is the 12th incarnation of the Doctor.
That was my whole point.
Technically yes, and Peter Capaldi is 13th, but Moffat will somehow increase the amount of doctors for more seasons/episodes
My dad was explaining to me that Matt Smith is now technically the fourth Doctor, because John Hurt's doctor started the cycle over and counts as one, then there's Eccleston, Tennant, and him...which is why there's room for more Doctors. He was pointing out how Baker was saying they were the same now as evidence beyond just what happened in the mini webisode.
But seriously, I wouldn't have gotten that without him saying that...
I'm referring to The Night of the Doctor in case anyone is wondering.
In the webisode they were talking about how he actually DIED and they ended up restarting his cycle on Karn when they brought him back as John Hurt's doctor, who wasn't accepted as a doctor until the end of the Day of the Doctor special.
That actually makes sense, but I'm pretty sure Moffat said something about the 13 incarnations being a Time Lord law and not a biological thing, so he can regenerate as many times as he wants now
I have no idea honestly, my dad just kept pointing it out. All I know is they pointed out that you can have twelve incarnations at some point, which means there can be thirteen and then it's done. The Master found a way around that by taking over someone else's body, which is how he overcomes it...like, at one point they bring up how that could possibly not be an issue (for multiple reasons, such as what you just pointed out, and another being a joke about regeneration like 500 something times). But this is what I found while scrolling through wikipedia (so I don't know the validity, but it's from an interview):
" However, writer Russell T Davies explained in an interview with SFX that this line was not intended to be taken seriously and insisted that the "thirteen lives" rule was too deeply entrenched in the viewer consciousness for his throwaway line to affect it."
If that's true then Peter Capaldi may be the last, but they'll get around it. Either the restarted regenerations to go from 8th to War Doc, or River's regenerations, or he got a new set for fighting in the war like the Master did, or something
I think the restarted generations makes a lot of sense, but I'm not going to go into the analysis of Night of the Doctor my dad went through while I was watching it. I ended up having to rewatch it simply so I could listen to it without him talking lol.
Well Moffat has to increase the number of Doctors due to River giving all her regenerations to the Doctor to save him from being poisoned remember?
Mmm, still he'll find a way to make everything crazy, I just hope they're still as well written as now.
Well it's pretty smart for him to make River giver all the regen to Matt and allowing things to intertwine with older previous episodes.
I think that's pretty well written
I never said it wasn't?
I think you're well written
Well thank you I suppose.
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It's Donna Nobels first episode as the official companion. And those fat things are the baby Adipose
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