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No Luka edition, sadly.
Best you can hope for is that someone uses this template to make one for ya.

>>#7, Well... I made an attempt at least...
I can't really draw but personally i think it ended up better than i expected, but you're free to like it or not.

this is good i like this.

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I logged in just in time.
Thanks, mate!

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Keep up the good work.

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I meant the character

ok then, quite interesting

fuck off dyke

3rd is like the most solid and fully open world one where they made combat better (imo) and its actually pretty long with the side quests and all. Manages to become a good action-RPG with solid optimization. Still though your call.

3rd is like the most solid and fully open world one where they made combat better (imo) and its actually pretty long with the side quests and all. Manages to become a good action-RPG with solid optimization. Still though your call.

That's what you get for hitting on a lesbian.

Who cares? She doesn't have to tell her wife

And San Francisco fucking sucks balls

Yeah, just look at all these fucking freaks. They make me sick!

s-schnei dend take it easy!

**unfitninjuh used "*roll picture*"**
**unfitninjuh rolled image**Who knows, it could be Portland or New York

The first one is ass. Second one is amazing. 3 on was on of the best of [CURRENT YEAR] 2015

3rd is like the most solid and fully open world one where they made combat better (imo) and its actually pretty long with the side quests and all. Manages to become a good action-RPG with solid optimization. Still though your call.

You obviously don'Ät have any idea how armor works. Yes, plate armor was near impossible to PENETRATE directly with a sword, bout you could:
*go for the weakspots.(Neck, joints, armpits...)
*simply bludgeon the everlasting crap out of it. DA got that right by giving maces the higest armor penetration, but you can even flip a sword around and use the pommel as an improv mace. Even if you don't hurt the guy inside, you're gonna dent the armor and hinder his movement, and eventually you'll be able to get past his defence and stap at weak points

Tit armor has another really big flaw:
If you've ever helda sword properly, you'd know the basic fighting stance has your upper arms pressed pretty tightly to the sides of your chest.
Now imagive you're a woman with tits. Those are gonna be in the way. Now if you're not wearing armor, they are still abit of a hindrance, but they are soft and move out of the way, so if you're any good, you can deal with that.
Now give them fucking rigid steel casing. You're basically unable to fight now. SO yes, tit armor IS bullshit.

Da: O has blunt weapons, Skyrim has blunt weapons, Axes and WarHAMMERS are THE dwarven weapon...

They are not blunt, but they are still high impact weapons, that is what counts in that regard. Also, I'd like to point of Gimlis Axe, because that shit is memorable as hell.

And yes, it is 90% swords, which is 100% bullshit, just like magazines that never run out, machineguns that don't overheat and cars that explode when you shot them with a pistol. "It looks cool" is hardly the only thing that matters, but we're kinda getting off topic here. Our current topic is tit armors. I will also reply to your earlier comment about women in combat in a medieval/fantasy setting.

Lets get to work.

To properly deal with this topic, let's first look at what we'll be dealing with.

1)In this setting, men and woman are treated at least equal enough to be both allowed to fight. That one should be obvious.
2)The woman we're looking at would be of average stature, with no extremes in either directions. In short, tits very clearly there, but not oversized.
3) We're looking that fights with either plate armor or a two-handed sword. It might be both at once, but at least one of them is true.

Now, let's start with the armor. You know what the most common armor was/would be in such a setting? A Gambeson, so flexible armor: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambeson
Most of your foot soldiers would wear this, or maybe chainmail if they were lucky/comparatively rich, because plate is FUCKING expensive! The only people who could affort plate armor were nobles. So we just ruled out the majority of the combatants, and thus the majority of fighting women.

Next, the sword. Swords, especially two-handers, are also very expensive(not as much as plate armor, but definitely when compared to any other weapon available), and, at least in real life, many countries outright forbade peasants to own two-handed swords. Thus, outside of nobility, you'd find about one or two dozen maces, axes, spears etc. for every sword, because those thins are a) much cheaper and b) require much less skill to use.

Now, lets go through our options:
1) Female foot soldier, wearing a gambeson, fighting with any weapon and a shield.
Her armor is soft, her breasts will be pushed out of the way. Also, she's fighting with a shield and a weapon, which can move separately. even if one arm is slightly blocked, the other is free to move.
No issue, NEXT!

2) Female fighter, using a longsword or similar two-handed blade, wearing a gambeson (or no armor) in a duel or small fight.
Again, flexible armor. Breasts will be a bit more of an issue, but nothing she can't handle, because when she owns and uses a sword, we can assume that she had substantial training with it, which means two things: She's gonna have an athletic build(small breats in the first place) and she's gonna be used to her own body and able to handle them.
Why did I specify duel? Because the only way you can get away without a shield in a mass fight is by wearing plate. Anything else is suicide, because people are going to gang up on you, and without a shield, you can defend against maybe two of them at once. And even if you somehow manage to defend against melee, some archer will be more than happy to finish you off.
NEXT! Continued below.

Continuation of my post:

A noble woman in full plate, wielding a two-handed sword.
We assume some things:
1) She's wearing plate, so its a larger fight, because NOBDY puts on friggin' PLATE ARMOR if they don't expect a larger fight to happen soonish.
2) SHe's fighting front line, not commanding troops from somewhere back, so her armor is actual armor, not some ceremonial bullshit.
3) As mentioned before, she'll be build like a fighter, and she'll be used to her own body.
Alright, here's what a sensible female knight would do: Instead of having metal tits that not only allow, but force her breats to be in the way, she'll squish them and press them together as much as possible, and wear either mens plate, or something that has a bit of extra room for tits, but spread somewhat evenly, with concentration towards the middle. Yes, it will be unfomfortable, but you don't put on plate to be comfortable, you put on plate to FUCKING STAY ALIVE, and this way, her tits will be permanently OUT OF THE WAY! Not hindering her, but leaving her free to move and fight as well as any man of same skill! Woo fucking hoo, we have achieved a miracle!

And now, we can start to make the armor identifiable and "Cool designed." Want a good example? Commander Shepard! SInce ME2, the armor is modular, and nobdy gives a crap about the actual form. But everyone who ever played Mass Effect instantly recognized its simple, three colour paint job, whether is on armor, a car, a bag or a fucking coffe mug! THats how you set a character apart, not by giving them metal tits or over-sized weapons!

...thats my point? THat you can make people stand out, regardless of the armor they're wearing? oO

but you're not standing out for the character. You're not standing them out because it's not theirs. the brand, the fantasy world maybe, but not the character.

any character can wear the n7 blood stripe. hell, i have to rewatch but i'm pretty sure the jacket guy in new trailer has it. it's not shepards, it's mass effect's. it's not an identifying tool for the character, but series.

I'll kinda give you that one, but be honest, if you see a picture of a person in N7 armor, will your first thought be "Thats some random N7 soldier" or "Thats Commander Shepard?"

Also, I probably should apologize for getting into a rant about this. I just do HEMA fencing since several years and spend alot of my free time learning about medievel arms and armor; it's a topic I'm rather passionate about. <.<

Watch out, Motherfucker, Unofficial Dragon Age Explain incoming!

>Dorian's story IS about him wanting to change the Imperium. He fucking explains that during 'In hushed Whispers.' His companion quest on the other hand explains the disconnect between him and his family, and as Luka so handily pointed out; Dorian goes on to speak about how highly the Imperium places having and distilling 'perfect genes' on a fucking pedestal. Guess what; if you're gay, you can't conventionally have children, you cannot conventionally pass on your genes.
>Tit Armor. Really? Let me go back a little. Dragon Age Origins; Look at any Female in Plate armor. No. Fucking. Tit Armor. Dragon age two. Oh, Aveline. What lovely clea- Oh wait a fucking minute. No. Fucking. Tit Armor.
>Cassandra being a Male Stereotype with Tits. Hmm. Right, right. Let me just think about how often I pick up a Fluffy smut book, and dream about a man to make love to me by candlelight.
>The Divine can only be Female because their jesus is, And always HAS been, a fucking woman. If it were really the 'progressive' fuck fest you're making it out to be, We would have had an Elf or a Dwarf on the Sunburst Throne by now, cocksucker.
>Let's look at Sten for a Minute. He claims that Women do not fight under the Qun. Alright, we'll accept that.

Now, let's take the females in the Wardens party as an example. They all fought, yes, and they all claimed to be female. A Female Warden specifically can say that she's a woman and she fights. Sten doe's not say No, you can't do that. He says 'One of these is not true.'

Now, Fast Forward to Bull explaining the Concept of the Aqun-Athlok. Someone who was born one gender but lives as a Man. Krem is one of these. s(he) NEVER claims to be a Female. Krem is, for all intents and purposes, a Man except for a biological level.

>Inb4 Sten doesn't understand why a woman would want to be a man therefore ur WRANG

Iron Bull expressly tells you that there ARE disagreements under the qun, and that's why the Tamassrans are there; to solve disagreements. Sten could have just had one of these mentioned disagreements, and it never got sorted out. Or, take into account that perhaps he never encountered that concept, and before you start talking shit, Everyone learns something new everyday of their lives, the Qunari included.
(Sorry for the fucking Dissertation.)
>The ONLY people in the Entirety of the Inquisition who I would say even remotely has their shit together are Vivienne, (Due to her being a literal Iron Bitch) and Solas for being the shiftiest, slickest son of a bitch in the entire world. Cullen doesn't have his shit together because, OH SHIT, He's a fucking addict. As is the ENTIRETY OF THE FUCKING TEMPLAR ORDER.
>It's not a punishment, it's called that Sera is a fucking child and is actually realistically written.

>party banter is easily missed. Needing specially selected members in your party to activate a set dialogue to say important information is NOT a good way to set up your character. Sending him away to get the ritual. blood magic doesn't require a death, just blood. Cut your hand? Done, here's your magic. the santanic bit is just for powerful shit. Let's also ignore that the only place in the world that don't like gays are set up to be evil demon worshipers.
>yeah, and they're boring for it. that's why tit armor even exists, for it to be interesting looking. practical armor is boring unless it's the the single dude in the party who uses it, even then they need special coloring for it if the generic grunt uses the same armor style. You're also ignoring Isabella "tits everywhere" and Varric "chest hair everywhere" on armor for DA2's armors. Or the emo elf who had whole sections of skin. you know, the other warrior you get in DA2. Iron bull's armor more typically than not doesn't have a shirt in DA:I too, and varric still shows chest hair. but hey, boob armor is impractical.
>if it put murder for you, it'd be yandere, just that is white knight out the ass and sums up her final romance cutscene.
>rest of society fine with trans, gays, women in equal position, super progressive sept the most powerful position in the land, only place where that's the law is EVIL LAND
>an entire unit of them in DA2, meeting the LEADER OF THEIR MILITARY BRANCH, their grandest general, wasn't enough to get a feeling of their race? Shirtless dudes every where in that whole guard, and some how accept women if they press their breasts like krem does and say they're dudes despite they won't even let the baker change his job if he says he's a farmer constantly? They're war mongering conquerors likely made by some mage who fused with a dragon and stick to the qun so they don't go crazy being half-people.
>Black "avoiding all grey warden questions" wall. Leliana, Cassandra, all the women act consistently like they have their shit together. Story needed yes, but likely not player. Player is going to unlock as many companions as they can in ever playthrough.

If you want "interesting to look at" armor, I'd suggest downloading some chainmail bikino mods, I'm sure those exist. Some people prefer their games realistic, some don't. BW decided to go realistic.
Also, I would call neither Varrics not isabellas outfit armor. Hell, I wouldn't even call Isabellas outfit clothing.

Because thats an imporant gameplay mechanic they can't do without. Doesn't change that it is completely wrong

"Tit armor is stupid and doesn't work."

"what? Chest hair armor? I'll defend it. I mean, it looks stupid and doesn't work, but hey, it's a dude!"

If you look closely, I did say that Varrics outfit also is not armor, no? It's just as much bullshit to call that armor

Which you can easily do without making their armor too stupidly unrealistic. Because I have to retract my former statement regarding Inquisitions armor realism - most of them are overdesigned to the point where you're more likely to be killed for wearing them than arriving at the battlefield in your undies.

You obviously don'Ät have any idea how armor works. Yes, plate armor was near impossible to PENETRATE directly with a sword, bout you could:
*go for the weakspots.(Neck, joints, armpits...)
*simply bludgeon the everlasting crap out of it. DA got that right by giving maces the higest armor penetration, but you can even flip a sword around and use the pommel as an improv mace. Even if you don't hurt the guy inside, you're gonna dent the armor and hinder his movement, and eventually you'll be able to get past his defence and stap at weak points

Tit armor has another really big flaw:
If you've ever helda sword properly, you'd know the basic fighting stance has your upper arms pressed pretty tightly to the sides of your chest.
Now imagive you're a woman with tits. Those are gonna be in the way. Now if you're not wearing armor, they are still abit of a hindrance, but they are soft and move out of the way, so if you're any good, you can deal with that.
Now give them fucking rigid steel casing. You're basically unable to fight now. SO yes, tit armor IS bullshit.

Da: O has blunt weapons, Skyrim has blunt weapons, Axes and WarHAMMERS are THE dwarven weapon...

They are not blunt, but they are still high impact weapons, that is what counts in that regard. Also, I'd like to point of Gimlis Axe, because that shit is memorable as hell.

And yes, it is 90% swords, which is 100% bullshit, just like magazines that never run out, machineguns that don't overheat and cars that explode when you shot them with a pistol. "It looks cool" is hardly the only thing that matters, but we're kinda getting off topic here. Our current topic is tit armors. I will also reply to your earlier comment about women in combat in a medieval/fantasy setting.

Lets get to work.

To properly deal with this topic, let's first look at what we'll be dealing with.

1)In this setting, men and woman are treated at least equal enough to be both allowed to fight. That one should be obvious.
2)The woman we're looking at would be of average stature, with no extremes in either directions. In short, tits very clearly there, but not oversized.
3) We're looking that fights with either plate armor or a two-handed sword. It might be both at once, but at least one of them is true.

Now, let's start with the armor. You know what the most common armor was/would be in such a setting? A Gambeson, so flexible armor: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambeson
Most of your foot soldiers would wear this, or maybe chainmail if they were lucky/comparatively rich, because plate is FUCKING expensive! The only people who could affort plate armor were nobles. So we just ruled out the majority of the combatants, and thus the majority of fighting women.

Next, the sword. Swords, especially two-handers, are also very expensive(not as much as plate armor, but definitely when compared to any other weapon available), and, at least in real life, many countries outright forbade peasants to own two-handed swords. Thus, outside of nobility, you'd find about one or two dozen maces, axes, spears etc. for every sword, because those thins are a) much cheaper and b) require much less skill to use.

Now, lets go through our options:
1) Female foot soldier, wearing a gambeson, fighting with any weapon and a shield.
Her armor is soft, her breasts will be pushed out of the way. Also, she's fighting with a shield and a weapon, which can move separately. even if one arm is slightly blocked, the other is free to move.
No issue, NEXT!

2) Female fighter, using a longsword or similar two-handed blade, wearing a gambeson (or no armor) in a duel or small fight.
Again, flexible armor. Breasts will be a bit more of an issue, but nothing she can't handle, because when she owns and uses a sword, we can assume that she had substantial training with it, which means two things: She's gonna have an athletic build(small breats in the first place) and she's gonna be used to her own body and able to handle them.
Why did I specify duel? Because the only way you can get away without a shield in a mass fight is by wearing plate. Anything else is suicide, because people are going to gang up on you, and without a shield, you can defend against maybe two of them at once. And even if you somehow manage to defend against melee, some archer will be more than happy to finish you off.
NEXT! Continued below.

Continuation of my post:

A noble woman in full plate, wielding a two-handed sword.
We assume some things:
1) She's wearing plate, so its a larger fight, because NOBDY puts on friggin' PLATE ARMOR if they don't expect a larger fight to happen soonish.
2) SHe's fighting front line, not commanding troops from somewhere back, so her armor is actual armor, not some ceremonial bullshit.
3) As mentioned before, she'll be build like a fighter, and she'll be used to her own body.
Alright, here's what a sensible female knight would do: Instead of having metal tits that not only allow, but force her breats to be in the way, she'll squish them and press them together as much as possible, and wear either mens plate, or something that has a bit of extra room for tits, but spread somewhat evenly, with concentration towards the middle. Yes, it will be unfomfortable, but you don't put on plate to be comfortable, you put on plate to FUCKING STAY ALIVE, and this way, her tits will be permanently OUT OF THE WAY! Not hindering her, but leaving her free to move and fight as well as any man of same skill! Woo fucking hoo, we have achieved a miracle!

And now, we can start to make the armor identifiable and "Cool designed." Want a good example? Commander Shepard! SInce ME2, the armor is modular, and nobdy gives a crap about the actual form. But everyone who ever played Mass Effect instantly recognized its simple, three colour paint job, whether is on armor, a car, a bag or a fucking coffe mug! THats how you set a character apart, not by giving them metal tits or over-sized weapons!

...thats my point? THat you can make people stand out, regardless of the armor they're wearing? oO

but you're not standing out for the character. You're not standing them out because it's not theirs. the brand, the fantasy world maybe, but not the character.

any character can wear the n7 blood stripe. hell, i have to rewatch but i'm pretty sure the jacket guy in new trailer has it. it's not shepards, it's mass effect's. it's not an identifying tool for the character, but series.

I'll kinda give you that one, but be honest, if you see a picture of a person in N7 armor, will your first thought be "Thats some random N7 soldier" or "Thats Commander Shepard?"

Also, I probably should apologize for getting into a rant about this. I just do HEMA fencing since several years and spend alot of my free time learning about medievel arms and armor; it's a topic I'm rather passionate about. <.<

Watch out, Motherfucker, Unofficial Dragon Age Explain incoming!

>Dorian's story IS about him wanting to change the Imperium. He fucking explains that during 'In hushed Whispers.' His companion quest on the other hand explains the disconnect between him and his family, and as Luka so handily pointed out; Dorian goes on to speak about how highly the Imperium places having and distilling 'perfect genes' on a fucking pedestal. Guess what; if you're gay, you can't conventionally have children, you cannot conventionally pass on your genes.
>Tit Armor. Really? Let me go back a little. Dragon Age Origins; Look at any Female in Plate armor. No. Fucking. Tit Armor. Dragon age two. Oh, Aveline. What lovely clea- Oh wait a fucking minute. No. Fucking. Tit Armor.
>Cassandra being a Male Stereotype with Tits. Hmm. Right, right. Let me just think about how often I pick up a Fluffy smut book, and dream about a man to make love to me by candlelight.
>The Divine can only be Female because their jesus is, And always HAS been, a fucking woman. If it were really the 'progressive' fuck fest you're making it out to be, We would have had an Elf or a Dwarf on the Sunburst Throne by now, cocksucker.
>Let's look at Sten for a Minute. He claims that Women do not fight under the Qun. Alright, we'll accept that.

Now, let's take the females in the Wardens party as an example. They all fought, yes, and they all claimed to be female. A Female Warden specifically can say that she's a woman and she fights. Sten doe's not say No, you can't do that. He says 'One of these is not true.'

Now, Fast Forward to Bull explaining the Concept of the Aqun-Athlok. Someone who was born one gender but lives as a Man. Krem is one of these. s(he) NEVER claims to be a Female. Krem is, for all intents and purposes, a Man except for a biological level.

>Inb4 Sten doesn't understand why a woman would want to be a man therefore ur WRANG

Iron Bull expressly tells you that there ARE disagreements under the qun, and that's why the Tamassrans are there; to solve disagreements. Sten could have just had one of these mentioned disagreements, and it never got sorted out. Or, take into account that perhaps he never encountered that concept, and before you start talking shit, Everyone learns something new everyday of their lives, the Qunari included.
(Sorry for the fucking Dissertation.)
>The ONLY people in the Entirety of the Inquisition who I would say even remotely has their shit together are Vivienne, (Due to her being a literal Iron Bitch) and Solas for being the shiftiest, slickest son of a bitch in the entire world. Cullen doesn't have his shit together because, OH SHIT, He's a fucking addict. As is the ENTIRETY OF THE FUCKING TEMPLAR ORDER.
>It's not a punishment, it's called that Sera is a fucking child and is actually realistically written.

>party banter is easily missed. Needing specially selected members in your party to activate a set dialogue to say important information is NOT a good way to set up your character. Sending him away to get the ritual. blood magic doesn't require a death, just blood. Cut your hand? Done, here's your magic. the santanic bit is just for powerful shit. Let's also ignore that the only place in the world that don't like gays are set up to be evil demon worshipers.
>yeah, and they're boring for it. that's why tit armor even exists, for it to be interesting looking. practical armor is boring unless it's the the single dude in the party who uses it, even then they need special coloring for it if the generic grunt uses the same armor style. You're also ignoring Isabella "tits everywhere" and Varric "chest hair everywhere" on armor for DA2's armors. Or the emo elf who had whole sections of skin. you know, the other warrior you get in DA2. Iron bull's armor more typically than not doesn't have a shirt in DA:I too, and varric still shows chest hair. but hey, boob armor is impractical.
>if it put murder for you, it'd be yandere, just that is white knight out the ass and sums up her final romance cutscene.
>rest of society fine with trans, gays, women in equal position, super progressive sept the most powerful position in the land, only place where that's the law is EVIL LAND
>an entire unit of them in DA2, meeting the LEADER OF THEIR MILITARY BRANCH, their grandest general, wasn't enough to get a feeling of their race? Shirtless dudes every where in that whole guard, and some how accept women if they press their breasts like krem does and say they're dudes despite they won't even let the baker change his job if he says he's a farmer constantly? They're war mongering conquerors likely made by some mage who fused with a dragon and stick to the qun so they don't go crazy being half-people.
>Black "avoiding all grey warden questions" wall. Leliana, Cassandra, all the women act consistently like they have their shit together. Story needed yes, but likely not player. Player is going to unlock as many companions as they can in ever playthrough.

If you want "interesting to look at" armor, I'd suggest downloading some chainmail bikino mods, I'm sure those exist. Some people prefer their games realistic, some don't. BW decided to go realistic.
Also, I would call neither Varrics not isabellas outfit armor. Hell, I wouldn't even call Isabellas outfit clothing.

Because thats an imporant gameplay mechanic they can't do without. Doesn't change that it is completely wrong

"Tit armor is stupid and doesn't work."

"what? Chest hair armor? I'll defend it. I mean, it looks stupid and doesn't work, but hey, it's a dude!"

If you look closely, I did say that Varrics outfit also is not armor, no? It's just as much bullshit to call that armor

Which you can easily do without making their armor too stupidly unrealistic. Because I have to retract my former statement regarding Inquisitions armor realism - most of them are overdesigned to the point where you're more likely to be killed for wearing them than arriving at the battlefield in your undies.