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| #6 - That is ******* terrifying. The fact that you can get d… [+] (2 new replies) | 01/09/2016 on I don't want a gf anymore... | +1 |
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humorouswaste (01/09/2016) [-] there probably is but youd have better luck winning the lottery with no ticket | ||
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| #2 - I don't know how alimony payments work. Don't they have to mak… [+] (9 new replies) | 01/09/2016 on I don't want a gf anymore... | 0 |
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insanefreak (01/09/2016) [-] In Belgium they don't. Alimony is the one exception and they can take literally everything from you. By now I know far too much about the Belgian law regarding that shit, because for the past eleven years I've been on the first row in the still ongoing fight between my lying, SOB mother and my father who's just been defending himself. He's been declared mentally insane, violent, a pedophile, pretty much every trick in the book to get him jailed, and just as she almost succeeded, she had the bad luck that I figured out that my mum was lying about pretty much everything (you'd be surprised how long a kid believes his parent's lies. Although me being on rilatin 24/7 probably aided in that). One of the key starting statements of her lawyer was that he should never have the kids, because he can't take care of them and the eldest (being me) hated his guts. Kinda screwed them over when I took my dad's side and started defending him at every opportunity (being the only kid old enough to go into court and refuse to be kicked out, even though her lawyer tried to have me evicted every time, succeeding half the time in this corrupt shithole). I love my dad more than I can explain. He lost his kids, everything in his house, fought tooth and nail because we requested him to keep it, my mum even took his fucking clothes and underwear when she left. He didn't want to get us involved and told us he was strong enough to handle it, that it was between adults to solve it. By believing my mum for five gruesome years, I thought he would have hated my guts for aiding the person who ruined him. And the magnificent fucker welcomed me with open arms, demanding not a thing of me and just continuing to provide for me as much as he could. We went through poverty together. Lost electricity, heating, warm water as I struggled through school, eventually had to give up after my first year in uni because I had no money to continue, and went to work in construction instead. Lost the house later as well, despite things starting to look up as my mum and her lawyer ran out of tactics and more and more evidence was stacked against her. He made me tough. He made me who I am today. I'm 23, physically fucking healthy and fit, have a job that pays me well, save half of what I earn, have a car, rent a small house big enough for two people for a damn cheap price, had for two and a half years a magnificent relationship until she quit because her feelings towards me changed. But I'm alive. I keep going. He's the fucking hero out of my fairy-tale. He taught me that no matter what live can throw at you, you can shrug it off and keep going as long as you carry hope. That as long as you retain that pride in yourself that you will get up no matter how many blows rain down on you and keep going. And when he tells me that he is proud of me, then damn, I'm happy. He wanted nothing, but gave me everything. I trust him completely, can talk to him about everything. He's closer to me than any being has ever been. And there is no greater honour for me than the simple fact that he returns that feeling. In third person, I call him my dad. But I call him by his name when talking to him. Have done so for a decade. I don't consider him a parent anymore. He's far more. He's my mentor. My friend. The only person to stand by my side when no-one else would. He is my hero. And I can only pray that if I am met with as much shit from life as he has, that I'll be able to be even a bit like him. #5 -
humorouswaste (01/09/2016) [-] there was a story last year about a guy who had over 100% of is income taken away every paycheck the system is not your friend #7 -
humorouswaste (01/09/2016) [-] there probably is but youd have better luck winning the lottery with no ticket | ||
| #80 - "Bae, come over." "I can't, I'm spread… | 01/07/2016 on Character Art: Armored Up... | +19 |
| #5 - Yeah. I get it, Paula had to work hard for everything, and yea… [+] (83 new replies) | 01/01/2016 on Upper Class | +315 |
 I'd kick richards snobby ass and steal his car, maybe fuck his wife too. There's nothing more that i hate than disgusting, snobby pricks who got EVERY FUCKING THING for free by their parents and then dare to speak about ''hurr durr u gutta wurk hard lmao''. I grew up in an underclass family who lived on welfare and i hate these godamn fucking snobs who where raised by parents who earned their wealth by heritage and tax cuts. We need to kill the bankerrs and start a revulotion. #210 -
anon (01/02/2016) [-] I don't think the point of the comic was that it was Richard's fault. I think the point of the comic is that he's wrong for saying he's different from people like Paula because of hard work alone. It's circumstantial. #158 -
sienofenda (01/02/2016) [-] I dont think that was the message at all. As i perceived it the message was that we have to remember these differences when discussing social policies and the like, no one was saying richard was some lucky punk who didnt deserve it, just that he had different circumstances for achieving succes. i feel like that is also very relevant to keep in mind with how people discuss politics on fj recently,  i think the narrative theyre trying to spin is that equity and equality aren't the same thing. i dont think richard is being blamed for being born into his family, nor is paula. richard isnt to be faulted, its just a way of displaying that equal work doesnt always result in equal rewards, due to circumstance. basically, they're trying to say that everyone should be raised to succeed and be given opportunities. obviously in the real world its easier said than done, but its just supposed to spark thought.  I was raised in Richard's family, but I was autistic and no one loved me. So my brother became Richard, I was kicked out at 14 and became Paula. Fuck, at least Paula has a family that fucking loves her... Yeah, I realized how that sounded. Times were never THAT bad for me.... #134 -
anon (01/02/2016) [-] Hey pal, don't you come here trying to say something that makes sense. Get your ass back on the jealousy train with the rest of us crybabies that blame THE MAN for all our problems.  I doubt the comic is about that To me it seems that the comic is about rich and successful people looking down and being dicks to the lower class for not being on the same level Arga ''när juden dör av gas då står kuken i extas'' blatten Arga ''när rasförrädare dör så sjunger jag svenska nationalsången i kör'' blatten Arga ''när negrerna ger ifrån sig ett sista skrik så känner jag mig rik'' blatten Arga ''kuken blev alldeles hård och len när negern på gatan träffades av en sten'' blatten Arga ''den ariska rasen måste bevaras, den muslimska minoriteten måste skjutas och begravas'' blatten  We aren't hating the character for succeeding or having an advantage, that's okay, we're hating him for succeeding and failing to recognise that an equal level of effort and work by someone in a different situation can have drastically different results to the ones he got, which is not okay. #208 -
anon (01/02/2016) [-] richard did work harder, he got A's your parents cant take your tests for you. Did you read the bit about different qualities of education? Besides, the things you know about their grades are that their teachers and schools were very different, and that on one occasion he got a B+, where the hell did you get "he got A's" from? and on another occasion, potentially completely unrelated and different to the one we're shown him facing, she got a B. Maybe his report was piss-easy compared to hers, maybe it was exactly the same, we don't know. Basically, I'm not saying for sure that she tried harder, just that neither you nor I have anything to conclude jack shit about who tried harder in school. I'm not even mad about the issue of inequality anymore, just your stupidly terrible analysis of evidence and apparent ability to draw conclusions out of thin air.  Wait, who says that you should hate on Richard? The only wrong thing he said was his last sentence and the author even kind of defends him that it's normal to develop such an attitude. It's amazing how people are able to filter shit out until they extract something that can be easily argued. #41 -
anon (01/02/2016) [-] This isn't anti-rich people, it's pro equal opportunity in terms of schooling and such. And no, not affirmative action or whatever you people think equal opportunity means, just that she gets resources to assist in becoming as successful as someone born to well-off parents  The only thing here that doesn't follow the "everyone should have the same starting point" are panel set 4 and 5. Unfortunately, some schools are better or worse but even that is a fact of life. Had she dedicated more time and parents encouraged more study then maybe she would have gotten an A. This thing is, as everything that says "money makes a difference", pointless. Of corse it does. What is your point? That parents shouldn't be allowed to help their kids grow to be successful? That everyone should only be allowed to become great by their own effort? Cute, really. It is adorably naive and stupid. I ask this, every time I see this. What is the point of success for the family man? To ensure his child's prosperity. As long as the father and mother can breath they will try their hardest to help their child to success. #46 -
colacp (01/02/2016) [-] She got into school. That was her opportunity. If she was at a poly-technical university then she should have gotten a degree in STEM so she could make $60K a year. Clearly she decided to get a degree in something stupid or she dropped out. The good news is she can still marry rich. That's what I plan to do. #82 -
lolkeklol (01/02/2016) [-] that cherry picking at it's finest. Paula is clearly an extreme. obviously if everything bad happens to you your life will be not so good. Richard is the opposite, somehow he never has any issues in his life, which is whole unrealistic. rich people still die of disease, rich parents get divorced a lot. This graphic compounds problems and acts as if they are tied together indefinitely. #90 -
anon (01/02/2016) [-] I think everyone missed the bit where her loans were denied. Since her university wasn't paid for up front, she still had to take out loans. For most students, especially poorer ones, they also have to get a source of their loan tuition through parent loans. With her dad dying/dead, her eligibility for those federal loans is now gone and she has to pay thousands up front every semester in order to continue her schooling, when she was already struggling to pay whats he could in the first place.  You basicly said it all. I was talking to my uncle last night, he used to be an airline pilot, he started working when he was ten because his family was dirt poor, but he paid for his own studies and ended up as a pilot (he's 75 or something, so different times). We argued about capitalism, for him it works because even tho he came from nothing he now has a very nice house, a new car every couple of years and his kids went to college and what not. But I favor this comic in one way, I don't blame Richard for succeeding, because he was raised to do just that and he did work hard, because even tho he had the money part covered he studied and applied himself, but we do live in a world that not everyone has the chance to become all that they can be, because everything is centered around money and not everyone is a good investment, so I'm not mad at richard at all I even congratulate him, but I am angry that Paula didn't get a chance to become more when it seems she coulded have. #124 -
ubercron (01/02/2016) [-] have to say one thing though. School is probably much more expensive now a days. I keep hearing that students can't even afford to pay back the loans for the rest of their lives so they are essentially slaves. I'm not gonna go full sanders but something has to be done. The merchants are winning and we need to stop them. The school system needs a huge overhaul. yeah, not only the school system, everything needs a change capitalism will collapse on itself thru inflation as a minimal percentage of the population keeps raising their capital exponentially the rest of the population have less and less and eventually more money is produced and so it's worth less than before, but that small percentage of people also control that so it's not going to change any time soon. #33 -
funnygiggles (01/02/2016) [-] Not to mention I definitely know people who trashed their rich parents money and turned into burnouts. #23 -
nemodiego (01/02/2016) [-] The comic isn't critical of Richard because he was born into a loving, affluent family. It's critical of him cause he failed to recognize or appreciate the advantages he was given early in life. There's nothing wrong with his path and you're right, he didn't choose his family any more than Paula chose hers. Richard still had to work hard to get to wherever he may be in the last frame and plenty of kids in similar situations find ways to fuck it all up, there's no denying that fact. But if you were born on third base, don't walk around telling people that you hit a triple; it makes you look like a pretentious cunt.  I think the point here is that when you don't need to struggle with finance it is easy to look at others and claim laziness.  Richard is not being faulted for winning the genetic lottery, he is being faulted for believing that his success was the result of his own ability and purely due to his own ability, despite the fact that he received help from almost everyone he ran into along the way. This isn't just discompassionate, it's also ungrateful, prideful, and downright rude. He has the right to be proud of his accomplishments. he worked hard to get his degree's and at his job. But to say he got it solely because he is a hard worker would be bullshit. And sadly in the last panel he claims that he got to where he was via hard work whilst the woman actually had to struggle. It's an expression that refers to being lucky in who your parents are.  I am 90% sure it is only used for looks and other physical qualities. You act like just because you've used it the wrong way all your life, that it means your way is the correct way. Show me one case where it is used for the situation you're using it in, and I'll show you 10 where it is not. Acting hostile just proves that you are using logical and argumentative fallacies to back up your points. There is no argument. I am right, you are wrong. This is quite possibly the most retarded thing you could decide to pick a fight over. I was never picking a fight, you were by denying the fact you are wrong in this case. Holding your opinion based on anecdotal evidence is a fallacy that you are clearly not seeing through. >I think that you used the saying incorrectly >No I didn't >Well you did, you're stupid, and you're covering for it. >Well fuck you then >"Not picking a fight" Now you're creating a strawman and simplifying the complex debate started above. Also, you began attacking me versus proving your grounds of using the statement, which is ad hominem fallacy. Given the fact that you have incorrectly cited about four fallacies, I'm given to think that you just looked at a website and have no formal training in argument. I correctly stated each argument, and I've taken Argumentation classes in college. No you haven't correctly cited anything, because an Ad Hominem Fallacy requires directly attacking your character as a justification for why you're wrong. I insulted you, that is not an ad hominem attack that is an insult. If I said "Well, you're stupid, so you're wrong.", that would be an Ad Hominem attack. I told you to go fuck yourself because I have no intention of proving myself to you over something as stupid as an idiomatic saying. Additionally, I have never cited any evidence, I've just told you that you are wrong. Yet you claim that I've cited anecdotal evidence when you were the one who specifically said "Show me one case where it is used for the situation you're using it in, and I'll show you 10 where it is not.", which is most certainly a guarantee that you intend to rely on anecdotal evidence.  Paula also had supportive and loving parents, but she had less access to useful resources and less time to use the ones she had. The point is that poor people can get somewhere, but they have a huge mountain to climb, which they often have to permanently settle on midway because they didn't have proper equipment to carry on climbing. Where I live that isn't really an issue because poor people get almost as fair opportunities as the richest, without having to work three times as hard for it. But hey, just my 5 cents. #43 -
colacp (01/02/2016) [-] Richard got a degree in Finance. Paula got a degree in theater. Because if she had gotten a degree in Engineering she'd be well off. But its not too late for her. She can still marry Richard and get rich that way. All she needs to do is flirt a little and leave him her number on a napkin. Talk about a golden opportunity! Pretty stupid assumption, considering the author states she was in poly. Polytech where I am is nearly exclusively stem related jobs, particularly computer science. #93 -
anon (01/02/2016) [-] Why is everyone saying she majored in theater or some sort of liberal art? The comic says she's in college for an engineering field.  On the one hand I agree that people in those situations don't ask for that shit, but to grow up having everything handed to you and pretend like it was through effort and not luck, that's more than a little shitty. I don't agree with too much of the anti-rich sentiment building with media, but I do agree that ignoring the part circumstance played in your success is a very poor excuse to say and do shitty things.  Richard didn't have "everything handed to him". He certainly had way more opportunities than Paula, but he still had to work hard. Had he not studied hard enough, his nicer school wouldn't make a difference. Even with the tutor, if he didn't have the desire to do better it wouldn't make a difference. He got that job through his father's connections, but if he was shitty at it, he wouldn't have progressed or kept it in the first place. As for the loan, Paula was working low income jobs, it wouldn't be in the banks interest if they don't believe she can keep up payments. Also we don't know how much each of them is trying to get. I would argue that Richard is correct, even if he come off as a dick. He may have been handed his tools and parts on a silver platter, but he was the one who used them to build his success. | ||
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