nope its meat good = merica

spoiled people never realize they are spoiled. you are spoiled as fuck and think everyone needs to think like you retards. fuck off and go not get laid. you have nothing important to say because you in denail for yourself. and until you get out of your delierium and learn there are other views you can go ahead and kill yourself

At least we can spell things like "denial"

oh let me give you a job then. you must be some kind of genius with a IQ of 170 if you can do that. WOW im fully impressed. cant believe how smart you are

This is why no one respects your argument. Notice that the closest I have come to insulting you is to point out that arguing the way you do, makes you appear to be stupid. I never called you stupid, merely pointed out that you could make your point in a much more intelligent way.

Acting belligerent and insulting everyone around you creates to image of a child throwing a tantrum. If you want to be respected (and taken seriously) I would refrain from doing that.

Called me spoiled, insulted my nationality, said fuck, informed me that I won't get laid, and since my opinion differs from yours, you said I should kill myself, How's being 12 going for you? I don't have to insult you because you are doing it for me.

whats the matter? does it shame you to look in the mirror? kill yourself because no animals should be sacrificed to keep you alive

Damn. That's the second time you have told me to kill myself in this argument. Jesus, if you keep going, you might reach a new level of edgy! Animals are used as nutrition for humans. They aren't as important to me as they seem to be to you. I'm sorry that being 12 isn't going so good for you. I mean, you gotta get all that pent out rage out somehow right? Keep on talking. You're just making your cause look stupider and stupider.

its not my cause, i just hate bullies like you people. i saw the conversation and stepped in cause im the voice of the voiceless. numbers help against illiterate rednecks like you. or rather i should say brainwashed zombies like you.

go revere your musicians and actress. go ahead. go keep getting Cs in class and not getting any. you are the saddest piece of crap because you hate enlightened people but claim to be enlightened.

its idiots like you who are so set in his way that killed Galileo because he said the earth revolved around the sun. guess what. it does revolve around the sun

"I just hate bullies" says you who is calling a guy who is just saying his opinion on the subject a "redneck", even though you don't even know him. All you have been doing is spewing insults at him and you say you hate bullies.

youre a little slut. the sad thing is youre a virgin slut. so neither side likes you

That comment made no sense whatsoever,"youre a virgin slut". Were you trying to offend me in that comment? How about you think of better insults than "virgin slut".

Just because I disagree with someone, and choose to use my human right to free speech doesn't make me a bully. If I do recall, I'm not the one telling people to kill themselves, nor am I resorting to name calling, or calling people "fags." If you're so enlightened, then why do you resort to using common insults that do nothing but make you sound like an uneducated idiot. You're implying so much that it's kinda humorous. I've graduated school, I don't worship musicians, or actresses, I don't claim to know it all. Just chill out and stop taking the internet so seriously. But hey, you didn't tell me to kill myself in that comment! You're making progress.

because when you talk to a 3rd grader you talk to them in a language they understand.

and when you talk to racist ignorant bigots like yourself you talk in a manner they can understand

I'm sure you know how to talk to a third grader, seeing as you are clearly closer to that grade level than I. But I guess someone that is so highly enlightened such as yourself can't be bothered with correct grammar and punctuation can they? Give it a rest. You aren't even entertaining anymore, you are just repeating yourself. Go learn so new insults, then come back to me.

I'm only wondering at how that guy just keeps going living in his own sphere of "enlightenment" at real life.

Or could he be those kids who act all tough behind the keyboard ?

you know whats funny. you people claim enlightment is a bad thing. you claim humans are flawed and yet you stick to your christian ideology yet claim to be atheists like the hypocrites you are. you disguist me because you are clearly christian in your kill everything on the planet approach but yet think you are more englightened for beliving theres no god

seriously. im not trolling when i say kill yourself. i want you to take a knife and end your life because you disgust me

Well guess what, I'm not a atheist, I believe in multiple gods and goddess because I'm not one of those who says "my religion rules, your sucks, go kill yourself".

First off, humans aren't perfect, just sayin'
Second, who claimed Enlightenment is bad ? It's great, what you're doing, that's not being enlightened.

GIF because I want.

I'm pretty sure he is either a troll, or so full of himself, he can't even see the how humorous his idiotic comments are. It takes a special kind of person to constantly call people rednecks, then call that same person a fag.

AND still believe they are superior and that you should go kill yourself.

If he is so superior it wouldn't take him half a half hour to formulate his half-assed attempts at insulting us. I'm sure his mom will eventually tell him it's time for him to go to bed.

you 2 bf's now?

I'm surprised you know what a friendly encounter looks like. As angry, and as arrogant as you are, I'm sure many people don't invite you to their parties. But I'm sure you wouldn't go anyway right? There might be some scary rednecks there, with their rifles, and meat.

so you are gay?

No, but I wish your father was so he wouldn't have bore such a pathetic waste of life.

They don't invite him because every time he busts out these half ass arguments about meat.

lol why you crying so much? does it annoy you that as forceful as i am i am ALPHA and you are beta. you right i dont get invited to parties because i actually throw the parties and its freaking good. sad thing is you are just a loser with 4 eyes and lack of muscle mass. its ok im sure you'll get a gf one day....oops sorry i forgot you 2 are bfs now.

fags

Yeah. Considering the level at which he understands logic, I'm sure the mothers of those kids have told them he isn't aloud to come over and play.

awww did you just make your first friend? glad i could help. im very good at bringing losers together once they realize they are losers. cant wait for your relationship to evolve beyond friendship. make sure to treat him like a gentleman before you pound his gay ass.

fags

You are a sad child with no life. I truly feel for you.

i even tried to say once i realized how much it was going to start a shitstorm that i tried to walk away. but then everyone started attacking me and thumbing down all my comments after he said that.

youre welcome

happy birthday

Thank you.

youre welcome

its amazing how positive everything was until this one guy didnt even listen and now you guys turned it into attacks

How sad because it's seems that your life seems to be focused upon how people take your comments on a website. Give it up kid. I'll give you credit for still trying to defend your illogical comment.

i even tried to say once i realized how much it was going to start a shitstorm that i tried to walk away. but then everyone started attacking me and thumbing down all my comments after he said that.

Oh I'm not going to set everyone on parole and blame religion only. People are responsible for their actions. However, I do not approve of the negative influence. Now you might say that you can learn a lot in the preaches, but that's humans talking. Religion at its basic level is a negative influence due to blind faith and I do not mean faith in the existence of a deity. However, unbreakable faith in the teachings leads to easy manipulation and straightforward "the American Taliban".
As for the Jesus quotes..:
""I say to you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. As for my enemies who do not want me to reign over them, bring them here and kill them in my presence" Luke 19:26-27"
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. — Luke 19:27"
The Jesus followers were like a sect, encouraging to leave their families, friends etc. He also promoted self-loathe and everywhere you turn it is sin, sin,sin, sin, repent,repent, you are lousy, repent, sin.
Granted, these are far fewer in between, most often wrapped in between the lines, BUT there isn't a single line that would suggest disregarding OT. In fact, there are plenty of lines suggesting that Jesus came to reinforce them. We all know that both OT and NT were delivered by a God. Does that mean he had a change of hearth? AFAIK the almighty should be unchanging.
Face it, it is the PEOPLE who CHOSE to obey NT only, it is the PEOPLE who take note and preach (mostly) the positive things, trying to warp christianity into something it never was.
And look at Jesus as a character. We all know Adam and Eve never existed, so he came to the world to suffer for the symbolic sin of non-existing character and die in the name of... himself? Sounds legit.

Open your eyes man! Right now it is blind faith talking! Think God damn, THINK what comes with blind faith that ignores all FACTS! I believe that the mines are harmful and run through the mine field, you believe that being stabbed is a pleasurable experience and go on a rampage! Or how about two seemingly normal and well educated students who put their blind faith that they are doing the right thing and are getting rewarded in heaven??? Referring to London's metro terrorist act!!!! Believing in something is just one step from ACTING upon it! Asking to blame only the people and not the medium is like legalizing all drugs! Hey, lets overlook that he was forcefully injected with hallucinogens that made him kill his wife, the drug is totally harmless.
"God does not say to insult, or harm people who are homosexual"
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."
" The bible never says to murder in the name of God."
"They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)"
It takes just one search. I believe that Bibles does proclaim murder. Go on, put your blind faith and ignore the facts that are in thine Book of Truths. The sky is purple afterall.

All your quotes are from the old testament. Which is outdated and doesn't speak for me, or most Christians. I expected you to know that. "Open my eyes?" My eyes are wide open. The thing that is talking is my beliefs and my opinion. If you classify every instance of Christians standing up for the faith as "Blind Faith" then I can't take you seriously. Legalizing all drugs would stop the illegal drug cartels, and be helpful. People that do heroine will do heroine. Making all personal choices illegal won't stop heroine, or any other drug won't stop it from happening. You aren't making any sense. You just named all acts that people got forced into doing, or manipulated into doing. Also your facts aren't exactly facts. I'm not here to convert you, I'm not here to argue opinions with you. Which is what we're doing. There are no facts in what we're discussing. It's all faith, and without faith, man would be nothing. Believe what you want, it won't effect me. Like I said I haven't gone around and murdered people for my belief, nor would I ever. All of theses examples don't have anything to do with me, because they don't apply to me. I won't be memorized or hypnotized by some crazy man. Your blame for violence in the world is misplaced. Start blaming the choice, not the religions, or the guns. I hope you will realize that people are to blame for the death and violence in this world, not beliefs. Have a good day, and a great life. God bless.

Oh I'm not going to set everyone on parole and blame religion only. People are responsible for their actions. However, I do not approve of the negative influence. Now you might say that you can learn a lot in the preaches, but that's humans talking. Religion at its basic level is a negative influence due to blind faith and I do not mean faith in the existence of a deity. However, unbreakable faith in the teachings leads to easy manipulation and straightforward "the American Taliban".
As for the Jesus quotes..:
""I say to you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. As for my enemies who do not want me to reign over them, bring them here and kill them in my presence" Luke 19:26-27"
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. — Luke 19:27"
The Jesus followers were like a sect, encouraging to leave their families, friends etc. He also promoted self-loathe and everywhere you turn it is sin, sin,sin, sin, repent,repent, you are lousy, repent, sin.
Granted, these are far fewer in between, most often wrapped in between the lines, BUT there isn't a single line that would suggest disregarding OT. In fact, there are plenty of lines suggesting that Jesus came to reinforce them. We all know that both OT and NT were delivered by a God. Does that mean he had a change of hearth? AFAIK the almighty should be unchanging.
Face it, it is the PEOPLE who CHOSE to obey NT only, it is the PEOPLE who take note and preach (mostly) the positive things, trying to warp christianity into something it never was.
And look at Jesus as a character. We all know Adam and Eve never existed, so he came to the world to suffer for the symbolic sin of non-existing character and die in the name of... himself? Sounds legit.

The problem is, it really IS harmful. I'm not pulling it out of my hat either. If you want to compare it to a tool, it would be an unstable time bomb.
Look , it is very late and I won't be able to put down the whole reasoning, but I'll give a few points here. Do note that my target is not personal beliefs, but religion as a structure:
* It promotes blind faith. You can see it in every religion. The members are asked to shove aside any facts and reasoning for undeniable "truth. That's how you get zealots with undeniable faith, easy to manipulate by offering rewards in the supposed afterlife.
* They try to enforce morals through books/stories/scripts. And the problem is that morals evolve. "Sacred" documents do not. They're recollections of ancient morals and the people's view's on the world, which really were advanced for that time, BUT emphasis on 'that time' - we live in the present.
* They create intolerance and divide people. Sure, they all make poems about the love for the family and neighbours, but that's where the love ends. Look at Ireland -the northern and the southern parts still can't get along! And for what!? All because children were told from the start that THEIR religion is true, that THEY are superior and the others are infidels.
And that leads to probably the biggest offender of all:
*Child abuse. Literal. Psychological. All those stories about hell and torture, all those preaches about the superiority are shoved into them. Into kids, who take it all literally, who still don't know any better. It is not because they are stupid, no, it is because they are genetically programmed to believe what they are told, to fallow the advice of the ones who have survived and thus should know better. All of this is sometimes almost impossible to get rid of upon adulthood. Thus, the cycle continues.
There is also contravercity, violence, double meaning but zzzzzz...
If you were not tought like that, then you are not a Christian. And be proud of it!

I was taught that my religion (Christianity) is right. Everyone else is wrong, IE Atheists, Buddest, ect. I was taught that the bible (New testament) is the word of God. I was taught that homosexuality is wrong. I was taught that Hell is real, but I was never once threatened with it. I was told that as long as I believe, and pray for forgiveness that I will be fine. I was also taught to hate the sin, but love the sinner. On top of that, I was taught that God doesn't want hate in your heart. Your examples for religion being harmful for the most part stem from people. The bible never says to murder in the name of God. People tell you to murder in the name of God. The bible never says to scare, and put fear into children. People put fear into children. As for your thoughts on intolerance, people create intolerance, not God. God does not say to insult, or harm people who are homosexual, or who don't believe the same as you. People do it because they can't handle someone living differently than them. As for blind faith. I don't see anything harmful in denying things that other people consider true. That doesn't seem to hurt anyone. If someone wants to believe that the sky is purple, It doesn't affect me. Now if they were to start murdering people that didn't believe the sky is purple, then it's the fault of the man manipulating them, not the religion itself. Evolving morals is just a matter of opinion. Morals are the same in my opinion. Murder is still murder. Stealing is still stealing. Abortion, and homosexuality are the ones that can be argued the most. But still, I have my beliefs and you have yours. I don't go around killing gay people, nor do I kill people who are pro-choice. Religion isn't evil, people are evil. Religion isn't harmful, people who lie, and manipulate are.

Open your eyes man! Right now it is blind faith talking! Think God damn, THINK what comes with blind faith that ignores all FACTS! I believe that the mines are harmful and run through the mine field, you believe that being stabbed is a pleasurable experience and go on a rampage! Or how about two seemingly normal and well educated students who put their blind faith that they are doing the right thing and are getting rewarded in heaven??? Referring to London's metro terrorist act!!!! Believing in something is just one step from ACTING upon it! Asking to blame only the people and not the medium is like legalizing all drugs! Hey, lets overlook that he was forcefully injected with hallucinogens that made him kill his wife, the drug is totally harmless.
"God does not say to insult, or harm people who are homosexual"
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."
" The bible never says to murder in the name of God."
"They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)"
It takes just one search. I believe that Bibles does proclaim murder. Go on, put your blind faith and ignore the facts that are in thine Book of Truths. The sky is purple afterall.

All your quotes are from the old testament. Which is outdated and doesn't speak for me, or most Christians. I expected you to know that. "Open my eyes?" My eyes are wide open. The thing that is talking is my beliefs and my opinion. If you classify every instance of Christians standing up for the faith as "Blind Faith" then I can't take you seriously. Legalizing all drugs would stop the illegal drug cartels, and be helpful. People that do heroine will do heroine. Making all personal choices illegal won't stop heroine, or any other drug won't stop it from happening. You aren't making any sense. You just named all acts that people got forced into doing, or manipulated into doing. Also your facts aren't exactly facts. I'm not here to convert you, I'm not here to argue opinions with you. Which is what we're doing. There are no facts in what we're discussing. It's all faith, and without faith, man would be nothing. Believe what you want, it won't effect me. Like I said I haven't gone around and murdered people for my belief, nor would I ever. All of theses examples don't have anything to do with me, because they don't apply to me. I won't be memorized or hypnotized by some crazy man. Your blame for violence in the world is misplaced. Start blaming the choice, not the religions, or the guns. I hope you will realize that people are to blame for the death and violence in this world, not beliefs. Have a good day, and a great life. God bless.

Oh I'm not going to set everyone on parole and blame religion only. People are responsible for their actions. However, I do not approve of the negative influence. Now you might say that you can learn a lot in the preaches, but that's humans talking. Religion at its basic level is a negative influence due to blind faith and I do not mean faith in the existence of a deity. However, unbreakable faith in the teachings leads to easy manipulation and straightforward "the American Taliban".
As for the Jesus quotes..:
""I say to you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. As for my enemies who do not want me to reign over them, bring them here and kill them in my presence" Luke 19:26-27"
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. — Luke 19:27"
The Jesus followers were like a sect, encouraging to leave their families, friends etc. He also promoted self-loathe and everywhere you turn it is sin, sin,sin, sin, repent,repent, you are lousy, repent, sin.
Granted, these are far fewer in between, most often wrapped in between the lines, BUT there isn't a single line that would suggest disregarding OT. In fact, there are plenty of lines suggesting that Jesus came to reinforce them. We all know that both OT and NT were delivered by a God. Does that mean he had a change of hearth? AFAIK the almighty should be unchanging.
Face it, it is the PEOPLE who CHOSE to obey NT only, it is the PEOPLE who take note and preach (mostly) the positive things, trying to warp christianity into something it never was.
And look at Jesus as a character. We all know Adam and Eve never existed, so he came to the world to suffer for the symbolic sin of non-existing character and die in the name of... himself? Sounds legit.

How could you even convert if I haven't got the slightest idea what you believe in. Even if I were to believe that there is an omnipotent being, it would change nothing.I don't proclaim my beliefs in my post, I state facts and conclusions: 1) the chance of there actually being a God is slim. Acting upon it would be like betting on flipping the coin on heads 1000 times in a row. 2) Religion at its core is harmful for the society in the present

Religion isn't harmful. The people involved are harmful. Calling religion evil is like calling a gun evil, or calling a hammer evil, or any other tool. Religion at it's basics is a tool to help people live their life. When people take that tool, and use it for evil means, they are evil, not the tool itself. Calling religion harmful to society is just ignorant and ignoring all the good it has brought. I have full belief in God, one hundred percent. I don't look at it like flipping a coin, I look at it as believing in something good, and powerful.

The problem is, it really IS harmful. I'm not pulling it out of my hat either. If you want to compare it to a tool, it would be an unstable time bomb.
Look , it is very late and I won't be able to put down the whole reasoning, but I'll give a few points here. Do note that my target is not personal beliefs, but religion as a structure:
* It promotes blind faith. You can see it in every religion. The members are asked to shove aside any facts and reasoning for undeniable "truth. That's how you get zealots with undeniable faith, easy to manipulate by offering rewards in the supposed afterlife.
* They try to enforce morals through books/stories/scripts. And the problem is that morals evolve. "Sacred" documents do not. They're recollections of ancient morals and the people's view's on the world, which really were advanced for that time, BUT emphasis on 'that time' - we live in the present.
* They create intolerance and divide people. Sure, they all make poems about the love for the family and neighbours, but that's where the love ends. Look at Ireland -the northern and the southern parts still can't get along! And for what!? All because children were told from the start that THEIR religion is true, that THEY are superior and the others are infidels.
And that leads to probably the biggest offender of all:
*Child abuse. Literal. Psychological. All those stories about hell and torture, all those preaches about the superiority are shoved into them. Into kids, who take it all literally, who still don't know any better. It is not because they are stupid, no, it is because they are genetically programmed to believe what they are told, to fallow the advice of the ones who have survived and thus should know better. All of this is sometimes almost impossible to get rid of upon adulthood. Thus, the cycle continues.
There is also contravercity, violence, double meaning but zzzzzz...
If you were not tought like that, then you are not a Christian. And be proud of it!

I was taught that my religion (Christianity) is right. Everyone else is wrong, IE Atheists, Buddest, ect. I was taught that the bible (New testament) is the word of God. I was taught that homosexuality is wrong. I was taught that Hell is real, but I was never once threatened with it. I was told that as long as I believe, and pray for forgiveness that I will be fine. I was also taught to hate the sin, but love the sinner. On top of that, I was taught that God doesn't want hate in your heart. Your examples for religion being harmful for the most part stem from people. The bible never says to murder in the name of God. People tell you to murder in the name of God. The bible never says to scare, and put fear into children. People put fear into children. As for your thoughts on intolerance, people create intolerance, not God. God does not say to insult, or harm people who are homosexual, or who don't believe the same as you. People do it because they can't handle someone living differently than them. As for blind faith. I don't see anything harmful in denying things that other people consider true. That doesn't seem to hurt anyone. If someone wants to believe that the sky is purple, It doesn't affect me. Now if they were to start murdering people that didn't believe the sky is purple, then it's the fault of the man manipulating them, not the religion itself. Evolving morals is just a matter of opinion. Morals are the same in my opinion. Murder is still murder. Stealing is still stealing. Abortion, and homosexuality are the ones that can be argued the most. But still, I have my beliefs and you have yours. I don't go around killing gay people, nor do I kill people who are pro-choice. Religion isn't evil, people are evil. Religion isn't harmful, people who lie, and manipulate are.

Open your eyes man! Right now it is blind faith talking! Think God damn, THINK what comes with blind faith that ignores all FACTS! I believe that the mines are harmful and run through the mine field, you believe that being stabbed is a pleasurable experience and go on a rampage! Or how about two seemingly normal and well educated students who put their blind faith that they are doing the right thing and are getting rewarded in heaven??? Referring to London's metro terrorist act!!!! Believing in something is just one step from ACTING upon it! Asking to blame only the people and not the medium is like legalizing all drugs! Hey, lets overlook that he was forcefully injected with hallucinogens that made him kill his wife, the drug is totally harmless.
"God does not say to insult, or harm people who are homosexual"
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."
" The bible never says to murder in the name of God."
"They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)"
It takes just one search. I believe that Bibles does proclaim murder. Go on, put your blind faith and ignore the facts that are in thine Book of Truths. The sky is purple afterall.

All your quotes are from the old testament. Which is outdated and doesn't speak for me, or most Christians. I expected you to know that. "Open my eyes?" My eyes are wide open. The thing that is talking is my beliefs and my opinion. If you classify every instance of Christians standing up for the faith as "Blind Faith" then I can't take you seriously. Legalizing all drugs would stop the illegal drug cartels, and be helpful. People that do heroine will do heroine. Making all personal choices illegal won't stop heroine, or any other drug won't stop it from happening. You aren't making any sense. You just named all acts that people got forced into doing, or manipulated into doing. Also your facts aren't exactly facts. I'm not here to convert you, I'm not here to argue opinions with you. Which is what we're doing. There are no facts in what we're discussing. It's all faith, and without faith, man would be nothing. Believe what you want, it won't effect me. Like I said I haven't gone around and murdered people for my belief, nor would I ever. All of theses examples don't have anything to do with me, because they don't apply to me. I won't be memorized or hypnotized by some crazy man. Your blame for violence in the world is misplaced. Start blaming the choice, not the religions, or the guns. I hope you will realize that people are to blame for the death and violence in this world, not beliefs. Have a good day, and a great life. God bless.

Oh I'm not going to set everyone on parole and blame religion only. People are responsible for their actions. However, I do not approve of the negative influence. Now you might say that you can learn a lot in the preaches, but that's humans talking. Religion at its basic level is a negative influence due to blind faith and I do not mean faith in the existence of a deity. However, unbreakable faith in the teachings leads to easy manipulation and straightforward "the American Taliban".
As for the Jesus quotes..:
""I say to you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. As for my enemies who do not want me to reign over them, bring them here and kill them in my presence" Luke 19:26-27"
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. — Luke 19:27"
The Jesus followers were like a sect, encouraging to leave their families, friends etc. He also promoted self-loathe and everywhere you turn it is sin, sin,sin, sin, repent,repent, you are lousy, repent, sin.
Granted, these are far fewer in between, most often wrapped in between the lines, BUT there isn't a single line that would suggest disregarding OT. In fact, there are plenty of lines suggesting that Jesus came to reinforce them. We all know that both OT and NT were delivered by a God. Does that mean he had a change of hearth? AFAIK the almighty should be unchanging.
Face it, it is the PEOPLE who CHOSE to obey NT only, it is the PEOPLE who take note and preach (mostly) the positive things, trying to warp christianity into something it never was.
And look at Jesus as a character. We all know Adam and Eve never existed, so he came to the world to suffer for the symbolic sin of non-existing character and die in the name of... himself? Sounds legit.

I would like to think that I promote less of an Atheism, but more like reasonable thinking and facts. I do not mind people having their own personal opinions on the existence of deities(even if the chances are proven to be very,very slim; even I can't deny there MIGHT be Futurama's God).
What I am fighting is religion as a structure, an organized set of rules prejudices. That's where the straightforward evil is presently coming.

All this could be fixed if people woke up and decided to think for themselves. I see nothing wrong with churches, but there has to be a moment where people actually have to understand that just because that person is a priest, or preacher, he isn't God himself. As for your beliefs in if God is real or not. It's not something that can be proven. You have to have faith in him, and that is the point of God in my opinion. He doesn't want there to be proof of his existence, he wants you to put faith in him being real. I personally don't find that difficult at all, but some people do. It's not my place to try to convert you, it's up to you to choose what you think is best.

How could you even convert if I haven't got the slightest idea what you believe in. Even if I were to believe that there is an omnipotent being, it would change nothing.I don't proclaim my beliefs in my post, I state facts and conclusions: 1) the chance of there actually being a God is slim. Acting upon it would be like betting on flipping the coin on heads 1000 times in a row. 2) Religion at its core is harmful for the society in the present

Religion isn't harmful. The people involved are harmful. Calling religion evil is like calling a gun evil, or calling a hammer evil, or any other tool. Religion at it's basics is a tool to help people live their life. When people take that tool, and use it for evil means, they are evil, not the tool itself. Calling religion harmful to society is just ignorant and ignoring all the good it has brought. I have full belief in God, one hundred percent. I don't look at it like flipping a coin, I look at it as believing in something good, and powerful.

The problem is, it really IS harmful. I'm not pulling it out of my hat either. If you want to compare it to a tool, it would be an unstable time bomb.
Look , it is very late and I won't be able to put down the whole reasoning, but I'll give a few points here. Do note that my target is not personal beliefs, but religion as a structure:
* It promotes blind faith. You can see it in every religion. The members are asked to shove aside any facts and reasoning for undeniable "truth. That's how you get zealots with undeniable faith, easy to manipulate by offering rewards in the supposed afterlife.
* They try to enforce morals through books/stories/scripts. And the problem is that morals evolve. "Sacred" documents do not. They're recollections of ancient morals and the people's view's on the world, which really were advanced for that time, BUT emphasis on 'that time' - we live in the present.
* They create intolerance and divide people. Sure, they all make poems about the love for the family and neighbours, but that's where the love ends. Look at Ireland -the northern and the southern parts still can't get along! And for what!? All because children were told from the start that THEIR religion is true, that THEY are superior and the others are infidels.
And that leads to probably the biggest offender of all:
*Child abuse. Literal. Psychological. All those stories about hell and torture, all those preaches about the superiority are shoved into them. Into kids, who take it all literally, who still don't know any better. It is not because they are stupid, no, it is because they are genetically programmed to believe what they are told, to fallow the advice of the ones who have survived and thus should know better. All of this is sometimes almost impossible to get rid of upon adulthood. Thus, the cycle continues.
There is also contravercity, violence, double meaning but zzzzzz...
If you were not tought like that, then you are not a Christian. And be proud of it!

I was taught that my religion (Christianity) is right. Everyone else is wrong, IE Atheists, Buddest, ect. I was taught that the bible (New testament) is the word of God. I was taught that homosexuality is wrong. I was taught that Hell is real, but I was never once threatened with it. I was told that as long as I believe, and pray for forgiveness that I will be fine. I was also taught to hate the sin, but love the sinner. On top of that, I was taught that God doesn't want hate in your heart. Your examples for religion being harmful for the most part stem from people. The bible never says to murder in the name of God. People tell you to murder in the name of God. The bible never says to scare, and put fear into children. People put fear into children. As for your thoughts on intolerance, people create intolerance, not God. God does not say to insult, or harm people who are homosexual, or who don't believe the same as you. People do it because they can't handle someone living differently than them. As for blind faith. I don't see anything harmful in denying things that other people consider true. That doesn't seem to hurt anyone. If someone wants to believe that the sky is purple, It doesn't affect me. Now if they were to start murdering people that didn't believe the sky is purple, then it's the fault of the man manipulating them, not the religion itself. Evolving morals is just a matter of opinion. Morals are the same in my opinion. Murder is still murder. Stealing is still stealing. Abortion, and homosexuality are the ones that can be argued the most. But still, I have my beliefs and you have yours. I don't go around killing gay people, nor do I kill people who are pro-choice. Religion isn't evil, people are evil. Religion isn't harmful, people who lie, and manipulate are.

Open your eyes man! Right now it is blind faith talking! Think God damn, THINK what comes with blind faith that ignores all FACTS! I believe that the mines are harmful and run through the mine field, you believe that being stabbed is a pleasurable experience and go on a rampage! Or how about two seemingly normal and well educated students who put their blind faith that they are doing the right thing and are getting rewarded in heaven??? Referring to London's metro terrorist act!!!! Believing in something is just one step from ACTING upon it! Asking to blame only the people and not the medium is like legalizing all drugs! Hey, lets overlook that he was forcefully injected with hallucinogens that made him kill his wife, the drug is totally harmless.
"God does not say to insult, or harm people who are homosexual"
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."
" The bible never says to murder in the name of God."
"They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)"
It takes just one search. I believe that Bibles does proclaim murder. Go on, put your blind faith and ignore the facts that are in thine Book of Truths. The sky is purple afterall.

All your quotes are from the old testament. Which is outdated and doesn't speak for me, or most Christians. I expected you to know that. "Open my eyes?" My eyes are wide open. The thing that is talking is my beliefs and my opinion. If you classify every instance of Christians standing up for the faith as "Blind Faith" then I can't take you seriously. Legalizing all drugs would stop the illegal drug cartels, and be helpful. People that do heroine will do heroine. Making all personal choices illegal won't stop heroine, or any other drug won't stop it from happening. You aren't making any sense. You just named all acts that people got forced into doing, or manipulated into doing. Also your facts aren't exactly facts. I'm not here to convert you, I'm not here to argue opinions with you. Which is what we're doing. There are no facts in what we're discussing. It's all faith, and without faith, man would be nothing. Believe what you want, it won't effect me. Like I said I haven't gone around and murdered people for my belief, nor would I ever. All of theses examples don't have anything to do with me, because they don't apply to me. I won't be memorized or hypnotized by some crazy man. Your blame for violence in the world is misplaced. Start blaming the choice, not the religions, or the guns. I hope you will realize that people are to blame for the death and violence in this world, not beliefs. Have a good day, and a great life. God bless.

Oh I'm not going to set everyone on parole and blame religion only. People are responsible for their actions. However, I do not approve of the negative influence. Now you might say that you can learn a lot in the preaches, but that's humans talking. Religion at its basic level is a negative influence due to blind faith and I do not mean faith in the existence of a deity. However, unbreakable faith in the teachings leads to easy manipulation and straightforward "the American Taliban".
As for the Jesus quotes..:
""I say to you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. As for my enemies who do not want me to reign over them, bring them here and kill them in my presence" Luke 19:26-27"
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. — Luke 19:27"
The Jesus followers were like a sect, encouraging to leave their families, friends etc. He also promoted self-loathe and everywhere you turn it is sin, sin,sin, sin, repent,repent, you are lousy, repent, sin.
Granted, these are far fewer in between, most often wrapped in between the lines, BUT there isn't a single line that would suggest disregarding OT. In fact, there are plenty of lines suggesting that Jesus came to reinforce them. We all know that both OT and NT were delivered by a God. Does that mean he had a change of hearth? AFAIK the almighty should be unchanging.
Face it, it is the PEOPLE who CHOSE to obey NT only, it is the PEOPLE who take note and preach (mostly) the positive things, trying to warp christianity into something it never was.
And look at Jesus as a character. We all know Adam and Eve never existed, so he came to the world to suffer for the symbolic sin of non-existing character and die in the name of... himself? Sounds legit.

You misinterpreted him. He never asked for a place where atheism would be unquestionable - it would only transform it into an another religion. Read the post more carefully.

On a side note, about the freedom to openly express their beliefs - why do we give such an exclusive right to expressing religion? Afterall, we do silence any sexism/racism.

I personally don't get offended when people express their opinion. I'd rather not have any one place where one belief is consider stronger than another one. Questions, and disbelief is important to an extent. Atheism is not a religion. It's a lack of religion. Why would you want to transform something that rejects religions, into a religion itself? People express their beliefs every day. Anywhere where a certain religion holds more power than another, it will become what I just explained. A place where anyone who questions the idea will be blindly hated for no reason. The internet is pretty even in my opinion, there are of course sites dedicated to Atheism, and sites dedicated to other beliefs. Atheism shouldn't take hold of the internet and make it it's home. This is coming from a christian who isn't effected by people stating their beliefs, nor people shoving them down my throat. I understand he was not saying what I inferred, but it's what it will become.

I would like to think that I promote less of an Atheism, but more like reasonable thinking and facts. I do not mind people having their own personal opinions on the existence of deities(even if the chances are proven to be very,very slim; even I can't deny there MIGHT be Futurama's God).
What I am fighting is religion as a structure, an organized set of rules prejudices. That's where the straightforward evil is presently coming.

All this could be fixed if people woke up and decided to think for themselves. I see nothing wrong with churches, but there has to be a moment where people actually have to understand that just because that person is a priest, or preacher, he isn't God himself. As for your beliefs in if God is real or not. It's not something that can be proven. You have to have faith in him, and that is the point of God in my opinion. He doesn't want there to be proof of his existence, he wants you to put faith in him being real. I personally don't find that difficult at all, but some people do. It's not my place to try to convert you, it's up to you to choose what you think is best.

How could you even convert if I haven't got the slightest idea what you believe in. Even if I were to believe that there is an omnipotent being, it would change nothing.I don't proclaim my beliefs in my post, I state facts and conclusions: 1) the chance of there actually being a God is slim. Acting upon it would be like betting on flipping the coin on heads 1000 times in a row. 2) Religion at its core is harmful for the society in the present

Religion isn't harmful. The people involved are harmful. Calling religion evil is like calling a gun evil, or calling a hammer evil, or any other tool. Religion at it's basics is a tool to help people live their life. When people take that tool, and use it for evil means, they are evil, not the tool itself. Calling religion harmful to society is just ignorant and ignoring all the good it has brought. I have full belief in God, one hundred percent. I don't look at it like flipping a coin, I look at it as believing in something good, and powerful.

The problem is, it really IS harmful. I'm not pulling it out of my hat either. If you want to compare it to a tool, it would be an unstable time bomb.
Look , it is very late and I won't be able to put down the whole reasoning, but I'll give a few points here. Do note that my target is not personal beliefs, but religion as a structure:
* It promotes blind faith. You can see it in every religion. The members are asked to shove aside any facts and reasoning for undeniable "truth. That's how you get zealots with undeniable faith, easy to manipulate by offering rewards in the supposed afterlife.
* They try to enforce morals through books/stories/scripts. And the problem is that morals evolve. "Sacred" documents do not. They're recollections of ancient morals and the people's view's on the world, which really were advanced for that time, BUT emphasis on 'that time' - we live in the present.
* They create intolerance and divide people. Sure, they all make poems about the love for the family and neighbours, but that's where the love ends. Look at Ireland -the northern and the southern parts still can't get along! And for what!? All because children were told from the start that THEIR religion is true, that THEY are superior and the others are infidels.
And that leads to probably the biggest offender of all:
*Child abuse. Literal. Psychological. All those stories about hell and torture, all those preaches about the superiority are shoved into them. Into kids, who take it all literally, who still don't know any better. It is not because they are stupid, no, it is because they are genetically programmed to believe what they are told, to fallow the advice of the ones who have survived and thus should know better. All of this is sometimes almost impossible to get rid of upon adulthood. Thus, the cycle continues.
There is also contravercity, violence, double meaning but zzzzzz...
If you were not tought like that, then you are not a Christian. And be proud of it!

I was taught that my religion (Christianity) is right. Everyone else is wrong, IE Atheists, Buddest, ect. I was taught that the bible (New testament) is the word of God. I was taught that homosexuality is wrong. I was taught that Hell is real, but I was never once threatened with it. I was told that as long as I believe, and pray for forgiveness that I will be fine. I was also taught to hate the sin, but love the sinner. On top of that, I was taught that God doesn't want hate in your heart. Your examples for religion being harmful for the most part stem from people. The bible never says to murder in the name of God. People tell you to murder in the name of God. The bible never says to scare, and put fear into children. People put fear into children. As for your thoughts on intolerance, people create intolerance, not God. God does not say to insult, or harm people who are homosexual, or who don't believe the same as you. People do it because they can't handle someone living differently than them. As for blind faith. I don't see anything harmful in denying things that other people consider true. That doesn't seem to hurt anyone. If someone wants to believe that the sky is purple, It doesn't affect me. Now if they were to start murdering people that didn't believe the sky is purple, then it's the fault of the man manipulating them, not the religion itself. Evolving morals is just a matter of opinion. Morals are the same in my opinion. Murder is still murder. Stealing is still stealing. Abortion, and homosexuality are the ones that can be argued the most. But still, I have my beliefs and you have yours. I don't go around killing gay people, nor do I kill people who are pro-choice. Religion isn't evil, people are evil. Religion isn't harmful, people who lie, and manipulate are.

Open your eyes man! Right now it is blind faith talking! Think God damn, THINK what comes with blind faith that ignores all FACTS! I believe that the mines are harmful and run through the mine field, you believe that being stabbed is a pleasurable experience and go on a rampage! Or how about two seemingly normal and well educated students who put their blind faith that they are doing the right thing and are getting rewarded in heaven??? Referring to London's metro terrorist act!!!! Believing in something is just one step from ACTING upon it! Asking to blame only the people and not the medium is like legalizing all drugs! Hey, lets overlook that he was forcefully injected with hallucinogens that made him kill his wife, the drug is totally harmless.
"God does not say to insult, or harm people who are homosexual"
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."
" The bible never says to murder in the name of God."
"They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)"
It takes just one search. I believe that Bibles does proclaim murder. Go on, put your blind faith and ignore the facts that are in thine Book of Truths. The sky is purple afterall.

All your quotes are from the old testament. Which is outdated and doesn't speak for me, or most Christians. I expected you to know that. "Open my eyes?" My eyes are wide open. The thing that is talking is my beliefs and my opinion. If you classify every instance of Christians standing up for the faith as "Blind Faith" then I can't take you seriously. Legalizing all drugs would stop the illegal drug cartels, and be helpful. People that do heroine will do heroine. Making all personal choices illegal won't stop heroine, or any other drug won't stop it from happening. You aren't making any sense. You just named all acts that people got forced into doing, or manipulated into doing. Also your facts aren't exactly facts. I'm not here to convert you, I'm not here to argue opinions with you. Which is what we're doing. There are no facts in what we're discussing. It's all faith, and without faith, man would be nothing. Believe what you want, it won't effect me. Like I said I haven't gone around and murdered people for my belief, nor would I ever. All of theses examples don't have anything to do with me, because they don't apply to me. I won't be memorized or hypnotized by some crazy man. Your blame for violence in the world is misplaced. Start blaming the choice, not the religions, or the guns. I hope you will realize that people are to blame for the death and violence in this world, not beliefs. Have a good day, and a great life. God bless.

Oh I'm not going to set everyone on parole and blame religion only. People are responsible for their actions. However, I do not approve of the negative influence. Now you might say that you can learn a lot in the preaches, but that's humans talking. Religion at its basic level is a negative influence due to blind faith and I do not mean faith in the existence of a deity. However, unbreakable faith in the teachings leads to easy manipulation and straightforward "the American Taliban".
As for the Jesus quotes..:
""I say to you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. As for my enemies who do not want me to reign over them, bring them here and kill them in my presence" Luke 19:26-27"
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. — Luke 19:27"
The Jesus followers were like a sect, encouraging to leave their families, friends etc. He also promoted self-loathe and everywhere you turn it is sin, sin,sin, sin, repent,repent, you are lousy, repent, sin.
Granted, these are far fewer in between, most often wrapped in between the lines, BUT there isn't a single line that would suggest disregarding OT. In fact, there are plenty of lines suggesting that Jesus came to reinforce them. We all know that both OT and NT were delivered by a God. Does that mean he had a change of hearth? AFAIK the almighty should be unchanging.
Face it, it is the PEOPLE who CHOSE to obey NT only, it is the PEOPLE who take note and preach (mostly) the positive things, trying to warp christianity into something it never was.
And look at Jesus as a character. We all know Adam and Eve never existed, so he came to the world to suffer for the symbolic sin of non-existing character and die in the name of... himself? Sounds legit.

Who has that much time, goddammit.