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|#68 - 'God shut up, I have a final tommorrow"||03/19/2015 on (untitled)||+2|
|#7 - sauce?||03/19/2015 on New Pants||+1|
|#18 - >Person walking in||03/18/2015 on send help||+3|
|#27 - She isn't Saber of Red, she is saber slut [+] (5 new replies)||03/18/2015 on The red Saber||+26|
#163 - duelknight (03/19/2015) [-]
I don't think you understand what i'm saying here m8.
I'm saying Red saber should be called saber slut and red saber should be mordred.
You'd need to be a retard to confuse the 2.
Excuse me to not make it clear all high and mighty Venomthc god king of all Type moon and slayer of quetions that aren't obvious m'lord.
|#73 - I beg to differ [+] (1 new reply)||03/16/2015 on Ichabod||+5|
|#37 - All the monster girl service *CAPTAIN FALCON YES*||03/13/2015 on The time has come...||0|
|#5 - Or give her tacos||03/13/2015 on (untitled)||+6|
|#4 - Hitler couldnt save us||03/10/2015 on Squirrel Steals Plane||+3|
|#6 - I'll go back to playing Guild Wars 2 now [+] (1 new reply)||03/10/2015 on Based mom defends gamers...||+3|
|#46 - That ******* blows||03/10/2015 on Milhouse||+1|
|#6824 - Looking for a series with good action and plot. No generic deu… [+] (6 new replies)||03/08/2015 on Anime Recommendation Thread||+2|
#6825 - TheMather (03/08/2015) [-]
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|#1126108 - Sup guys, what happened to the recommendation board? [+] (5 new replies)||03/08/2015 on Anime & Manga - anime...||0|
|#74 - Sauce to song pliz? [+] (1 new reply)||02/19/2015 on webm comp 9||0|
|#48 - Suuurreeee, let's go with that||02/18/2015 on Party Game||+1|
|#121 - Picture||02/18/2015 on MLP in a nutshell||0|
|#20 - Picture||02/17/2015 on How do you guys feel about...||+58|
|#30 - We will see a lot of these||02/17/2015 on Dis gon be good!||0|
|#23 - The 2DS works perfectly fine for me... I mean. Holds like a co…||02/17/2015 on About the new 3DS XL||+9|
|#87 - Nice||02/17/2015 on *sweating profusely*||0|
|#6 - The World God Only Knows [+] (2 new replies)||02/17/2015 on I'm sorry||+6|
#11 - Ken M (02/17/2015) [-]
|#12 - Failing and being a dumbass are two different things. I do ag…||02/17/2015 on ali akbar||+4|
|#2 - Well it wouldn't be funny like that now would it [+] (1 new reply)||02/16/2015 on title i guess||+1|
|#4 - Le pervert homura thread||02/16/2015 on legend||+2|
|#140 - I'm afraid I don't know. I picked this up from another dance thread||02/16/2015 on So I found this unholy fusion||0|
|#4 - He is anything but a dumbass. Either thing he had done would'v… [+] (8 new replies)||02/16/2015 on ali akbar||+13|
#28 - Ken M (02/17/2015) [-]
he was saying the possibility that the missle could hit the birds was very high and it was fucking stupid to shoot when there was a swarm of birds around him
#8 - infinitereaper (02/16/2015) [-]
This is highlighted especially in fate/stay or unlimited blades works. When he talks about how he wanted to be a hero and that you can't save everyone, etc.
He sacrificed everyone except himself and failed.
Because he went with the quantity over quality logic. Between saving two groups of people choose the one that will save more.
In fact he is a lot like Shiro pre hero.
Except he's obsessed with saving everyone.
Shiro eventually grows up, but Kiritsugu literally ruined everything
And he sacrificed someone he cared about
Sure he was trying to do the right thing, but that doesn't change the fact he's a dumbass.
#44 - inyourmind (02/17/2015) [-]
I'm going to defend Kiritsugu on this one.
I'd say his logic is sound but instead fate is cruel to him. He was willing to sacrifice anything and everything to bring peace to the world and it is implied he stopped many wars before the series.
But compared to other heros (both in fate and other series) he is truly weak. He must cheat and manipulate hes way to defeat opponents and situations that are simply greater then he is. This means that unlike other heros he is willing to make sacrifices of the few, including himself, to help the many.
For starters the plane is a good example of this. It was a situation where there was nothing he could do to stop an outbreak that would claim countless lives and so he sacrificed his master, to her approval, in order to save the many.
Then there is the grail. Kiritsugu did not fail to achieve the grail it recognized him as the victor. He knew he could not save the world with his methods and so put his hopes in the grail and when the grail offered his own methods, the corruption of the grail, he rejected it. You see Kiritsugu always wanted to be a hero... but he knew he was never capable of being one himself.
#22 - innocentbabies (02/17/2015) [-]
I'll take Kiritsugu's logic over the cliched shonen shit any day. It might be touching and make for a good story, but the fact of the matter is you're gambling with people's lives. Let's take the American Civil War, for example. McClellan was actually one of them most skilled Union generals of the war iirc, Lee actually said he was the most difficult opponent he ever fought , but he couldn't accept casualties. He tried to save everyone, so the war just dragged on. Grant, in contrast, hated to lose people, but he realized that people die in war shocking, I know , so he was willing to pay the cost to end the war and finally stop the bloodshed.
Also, it's worth noting that had the Grail not been corrupted in the previous war by Angra Mainyu, it probably would have granted Kiritsugu his wish, which in turn would have vindicated his philosophy. Sometimes things happen that are beyond your control, it doesn't mean you're at fault for the failure.
#23 - infinitereaper (02/17/2015) [-]
Both logics don't work. Archer however understands what it means to be a "hero." Something Shirou doesn't yet understand and something Kiritsugu came to realize too late. The difference however is that Shirou eventually succeeds in his ambitious while Kiritsugu manages to ruin everything for himself. He had choices.
The moment he shot that plane down I knew two things, that I hated him and his ideology and two, that he would fail.
#24 - innocentbabies (02/17/2015) [-]
I guess you raise a valid point. Though I'll admit I always saw Fate/Zero less as being a condemnation of Kiritsugu's ideology, and more about trying to show what it really costs to save people. Sometimes you have to do extreme things, sometimes you'll fail, and it might cost you dearly, but sometimes it pays off though whether or not it was "worth it" is a different story .
I feel that the airplane scene illustrates that beautifully. There was a plane full of zombies, with only one actual person let on board. That person happened to be his mentor/mother figure. Certainly more than that one person would have died had he allowed the plane to land, and Kiritsugu again lost pretty much everything that mattered to him. Though, I'll admit I did rather dislike his tendency to resort to bloodshed immediately rather than attempt to find a peaceful way out mainly with killing El-Melloi , and it did do a good job of illustrating what happens if you give up on everything in life that matters to you besides your ideology, because things won't always go your way, and you won't have anything else left.
#12 - maguitox (02/17/2015) [-]