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Extremism yes, however, from what I understand of the bible, it is separated into two sections. The old Testament, which is Jewish scripture, and the new testament, which was written after Jesus. Only the old testament claims the execution of gays. Sure, one might debate on whether or not homosexuality is wrong according to the new testament, but the most understood interpretation of the new testament, with the death of Jesus, execution is not done anymore.
The Hadiths of Islam explicitly state that they should be executed. The other point of the matter is that unlike Christian states or Israel, Islamic states
follow those laws, with Saudia Arabia punishing homosexuals by tying a noose around their neck, and then lifting with a crane, which can take minutes to hours to kill you.
Even in Western countries, there is a significantly higher proportion of hostility towards homosexuals among the muslim community then any other group, as shown in the 2015 study in the U.K.,
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The problem is that the Muslim world never had an enlightenment period, or a modern renaissance, and what progress was made, was erased decades ago by the rise of Islamism as an ideology, and as such, their view on homosexuals were barely challenged, and what little challenge there was, was crushed.
Am I saying that every Muslim hates gays? Of course not, that would be silly, especially in the west. But at the same time, there is no group with a more extreme hatred of them, or with a larger percentage of them that hold those views, and Islam has a
way to go to catch up.
As one man put it rather well, "The modern Christian fundamentalist believes in 'pray the gay away' while the modern Islamic fundamentalist believes in 'hang the gay away'".
To compare it to a race issue, think of two different people who think that whites are superior. One believes that, due to their superiority, they should be in charge, and that other races should be treated like children or mentally disabled, and looked after for their own good. The other one thinks that, because whites are superior, all other races should be killed. Both are bad, but one is clearly worse.
Calling for an alliance between gays and Islamism is, at the current moment, simply ludicrous.
The most correct comparison of the old and new testament is the Koran. The hadith is a terrible example as it isnt even "canon"
Different Scholars choose different hadits to confirm and circle jerk their beliefs. they hold about as much authority as a hall monitor.
Homosexuality was illegal in most of the west up until 30-40 years ago. gtfo with that modern renaissance shit. it was a long and painful process. Don't act all high and mighty cause you're 40 years ahead of arabs.
Your text shows a complete lack of basic understandings of the holy scriptures, history, politics and even current events.
There are Christian countries that treat gays terribly.. what's your take on that? are they just islamified?
I'm no historian, so I don't know all the factors contributing to the "civilized" state of Western Christianity vs. the more barbaric practices that take place in the Islamic Middle Eastern countries, but I do know that Secularism is a part of it.
Giving religion control over the state is very dangerous.
It's like Jesus said, "give unto Caesar what is Caesar's".
I'm convinced America would be a much worse place if Christianity (or anything else, for that matter) was the state religion.
I wholeheartedly agree.
I don't think the new testament says anything about executing gays.
maybe not, but I know plenty of people I use to go to church with who take the old testament just as seriously.
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