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#9 - anonymous (09/01/2013) [-]
America: Turns up at the last minute, claims all the credit.
Don't be 'that guy' in every group project.
#39 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
the only thing that stoppred stalin from carrying on and attacking the allies was the fear usa would use nukes
talk to a russian, they'll tell you the truth allied history books WONT
you think a psychotically proud nation like usa would admit "we almost got our fucking asses kicked"
#40 - GIJorge (09/02/2013) [-]
What truth, you moron? That the ruskies couldn't do shit unless they had a numerical advantage 3 to 5 (sometimes even more)? That their tactics were laughable at best. ridiculous ramblings of drunken generals at worst? That without american equipment the "russian bear" would be serving as a bear rug? That without the second front, that was diverting not only the most german weapons but also the best german weapons away from the russians, Russia would've been raped? That if the japanese were not fighting the americans, they would have pressed on to Russia, making the russians fight in 2 fronts? That if the Allies hadn't kept the germans fighting in Africa, one of the Axis's most brilliant generals and the troops and equipment assigned to the Afrika Korps would have been able to help destroy the mighty (lol) Red Army?
Come on guy, I'm not an american, nor am I from a country that fought in WW2, but even I can see you're full of shit.
Please, just stop posting. Please. And go check out the lend/lease agreement, your casualty rates in WW2 and typical tactics.
I'm gonna give you 4/10, and that's because of all the stupid commie "RUSSIA STRONK, USA BAD" liberals that actually believe you. Otherwise, I would only give you 1/10, for making me reply.
#41 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
seriously, the germans were fighting like mad to protect their country from a very pissed off red army, they had reason to stay and fight, while all the allies wanted was get it over and done with then go home
if the red army managed to beat a determined foe then a less committed force like the allies would have folded quicker and retreated faster
yeah General Patton had a "fucking bring it on" attitude, but noone else did, (then also patton wanted to round up all the captured germans and have them as reinforcements against russia)
russia had weight of numbers in manpower but also effectiveness of the tanks....the sloped armor of the T-34 made it hard to penetrate hit...and since allied shermans were shit, they would have lost a head on battle with t34s
america didnt have the manpower to fight 2 fronts, at worst they could have used captured japan as an airfield and bomb the east side of russia yes, but only as long as it took russia to redeploy manpower over ther after capturing europe
if russia had taken the resource wealth of europe, usa wouldnt matter....so stop acting like this is a movie where usa is the unstoppable superhero.......
if youre from a neutral country then why are you giving american history a blowjob acting like theyre so awesome
if i could give you negative numbers out of 10 i would, but instead ill check your ear tag and set you free back into your herd little sheep
#43 - GIJorge (09/02/2013) [-]
"america didnt have the manpower to fight 2 fronts" Except, you know... The fact that AMERICA WAS FIGHTING ON 3 FRONTS AND PROVIDING SUPPLIES FOR A 4TH ONE, YOU STUPID CUNT. What is Africa and Japan? And do you even know what the Americans had at the time in the Pacific? Do you even understand what would have happened to the ruskies had the B29 been relocated from the Pacific to the European theater?
"if russia had taken the resource wealth of Europe" The war torn, low on resources Europe? And with the strategic bombing campaings diverted from the german factories to the russian ones, what do you think would've happened?
"if youre from a neutral country then why are you giving american history a blowjob acting like theyre so awesome" Stop taking that communist and lied filled proud "CCCP STRONK" dick so far up your ass it messes with your brain.
#44 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
right like it was ONLY usa fighting everything on its own,
like britain, canada, france, australia, new zealand etc didnt help in any way
seriously what country are you from, why did your people sit back like sacred bitches,. and why do you love usa so much
like the allies could bomb EVERY factory....youre ignoring there were war factories in every country around, look at a map sometime, russia could have pulled tanks and manpower from a dozen different directions, the allies were feeding their pilots enough drugs just to keep them on bombing just germany, they would have died in the cockpits trying to keep flying at so many targets to prevent soviet armament production
bitch about me taking soviet dick, you obviously got bored with sucking american dick and gave them a rimjob with such shit spewing back out of your mouth
#58 - GIJorge (09/02/2013) [-]
Oh god... You're even more stupid than I thought. In no part of my comments did I say that other countries didn't help. But are you sure you want to compare Australia and New Zealand to America? Are you sure? Are you really, really sure? Really? Because should I remind you that Russians were also, ehrm, "helped" by several other countries?
I'm from Portugal. And the reason we didn't fight is simple: we decided to be smart. You all wanted to kill each others, so we decided to sell tungsten to both sides. Easy. And we were busy preparing for what seemed like an unavoidable invasion, but that would be too hard for a retard for you to understand.
"like the allies could bomb EVERY factory..." What is military intelligence? What is the OSS? If you know what factory produces what, what are you going to target first, the ones that produce tanks, the ones that produce ammo, the ones that produce rifles or the ones that produce aircraft? You'd probably target the pants factory, but that's just you, you're a... You know... "Special person".
"allies were feeding their pilots enough drugs" a) I need proof b) japanese did that c) you do know that they only did a certain number of flights per day (1), right? And the same pilots rarely flew 2 days in a row.
#61 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
well yoyur entire sheep bleat has been "herp derp usa this usa that", as if usa can do everything and the other allied nations were just there to watch
be smart, pfft your country is a tiny bitch and would have been knock on its ass in a week at best if it went to war with russia and you admit your nation was a mercenary fucker playing both sides
yes military inteloigence, they could perhaps KNOW about every factory but couldnt attack them all, a funny little thing called AA guns do happen to be able to shoot down planes and the russians tended to kill captured enemies, so the allies would be in shit having to constantly build new planes and fuck around training new pilots all the time to attack hundreds of war factories
now if youre done being a crying bitch, i have adult FJ's to talk with, go take your nap little child, you get real grumpy when youre tired
#62 - GIJorge (09/02/2013) [-]
My sheep bleat? You're the fucker that can't look at facts without "MUH RUSSIA STRONK BEAR RAWR" and acknowledge the fact that Russia is useless without massive support, your men and tactics just suck more than a thai whore and your incompetence is legendary.
A tiny bitch that at the height of it's power managed to conquer a city defended by 50 thousand soldier with 400 knights. Yeah. A little bitch indeed. And ruskies would be too drunk on cheap vodka to do anything, unless they had at least 4 million soldiers. Look at Finland, your "mighty bear" got butt fucked. With a giant dildo. Covered in barbed wire.
What is SEAD? And that's a war crime, you fucking retard. Also, what are heavy bombers flying very high that can't be hit with anything short of a SAM or heavy AA?
I'm grumpy? You can't even present facts, you uncultured shit.
#69 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
see, thats your one trick pony argument
insult russia, glorify usa, throw shit like an ape
jesus fucking christ kid, russia had a little thing called AIRPLANES, that could fly up and tackle heavy bombers...and since russia had the numbers game there too, the allied escorts would be gone too
having studied psychology, its a fact those who rage when confronted by conflicting arguments are usually euneducated backwards cavemen who feel that since they cant express themselves with words, use violence...and also a possibility of mental disorders
get yourelf checked kid, you may require medication for your problem before it turns outwards at people in real life
#74 - GIJorge (09/02/2013) [-]
I'm not glorifying the USA I'm PRESENTING FACTS, YOU RETARD.
Come on, russian ww2 planes? You best be joking, nigger. WW2 russian fighters were so shitty that they preferred the airacobras, considered very sub par to other fighters.
And with that psychology, have you also learnt that you're so obsessed with national pride you can't fucking argument rationally and instead act like an idiot?
#76 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
facts as written by usa and its media
well done, the allies would never lie about history,.....oh no, theyre always COMPLETELY honest right
and im not even russian you retarded shit, you as an ignorant baby just assumed shit and cted like your opinion is pure fact
im not russian but i know who won ww2, i know who would win in a soviet vs allies battle
the only reason the allies had a chance against germany was the fact they were fighting on too many fronts, and some troops were deserting the soviet lines to come to the allies for safety, they saw the allies as much much less of a threat than the soviets
plus you were the first and still main one throwing shit around because youre ignorant to the point that you simply CANT handle anyone having a different opinion than you......people like YOU are whats wrong with FJ, why this site has become a tool of the media propaganda
#78 - GIJorge (09/02/2013) [-]
" they saw the allies as much much less of a threat than the soviets " You mean, the war criminals, gulag users, the soviets? I wonder why...
And if you keep using Allies, use USSR. It's the Union of the Social Soviet Union, idiot, not Russia.
"this site has become a tool of the media propaganda"
xDD Confirmed for a liberal lunatic. Wont even bother anymore xD
#81 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
mother of god
when you talk shit you go full diarrhea dont you
its United Soviet Socialist Republic....read a book kid
hmmm so disagreeing with usa's history of lies makes me a liberal lunatic, you SUPPORTING them must make you a conservative fascist psycho
let me guess, you support america's 'war on terror"
#42 - GIJorge (09/02/2013) [-]
" they had reason to stay and fight" Unlike the germans, french, brtish, spanish, portuguese, belgium, netherlands, switzerland and all the other countries in europe, right?
"if the red army managed to beat a determined foe then a less committed force like the allies would have folded quicker and retreated faster "
Yes, WHEN THEY HAD A MILLION MEN ABLE TO DIE TO WIN A FIGHT AGAINST 200 THOUSAND. Now imagine 1 million ruskies versus 1 million allies. Yeah... Poor ruskies.
"yeah General Patton had a "fucking bring it on" attitude" Paton was a briliant general, but not the only one in the allies' side. Russia had 0 brilliant generals. The only general that was considered "good" (you must know who i'm talking about, don't you?) was because he had no problems about sending millions to die, and thousands of vehicles to be destroyed. Not because of his brilliant capabilities.
"(then also patton wanted to round up all the captured germans and have them as reinforcements against russia) " The germans were severely pissed at the ruskies. It was a brilliant idea.
"also effectiveness of the tanks" yeah... No. All the sloped armor in the world would have meant shit if you can't refuel them and rearm them. And the ruskies couldn't without allied help. Sorry to break it to you, sugartits.
"the sloped armor of the T-34 made it hard to penetrate hit" say that to the thousands that were destroyed without even taking a shot at german guns or tanks.
"allied Shermans were shit" now you're just talking out of your ass. Do you even understand the concept behind the Sherman tank? Do you even know what a doctrine of usage is? The Shermans were a mass produced infantry support tank, not a tank made to take on other tanks. The allied had other tanks more suitable for that. But if push came to shove, the Sherman 75mm gun could be replaced by a rape-tier 17 pounder gun that could make short work of the T34. Oh, btw, your might red army used more than 4 THOUSAND Shermans, you retard.
#45 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
plus seriously, i dont see america shipping more men into the meat grinder...they refused to do that against a tiny island like japan theyd sure as shit refuse to do it in europe
i agree Patton was a brilliant general just he wanted to fight russia despite that usa couldnt afford a war with them....
your forgetting how many countries russia took hold of by the time they reached germany, fuel would not have been an issue, yes usa kickstarted the russian war machine but when they got going the soviets didnt need the allies help
WW2 was not the movie 300, the americans are not the fucking spartans being severely outnumbered and taking on a swarm of russians no problem,
russia bought 4,000 american tanks in ww2....thats nice kid....tell me about the other 100,000 they themselves made....29,770 Light tanks., 62,424 Medium tanks., 12,831 Heavy tanks., 5 Super heavy tanks, read a real book sometime,
#59 - GIJorge (09/02/2013) [-]
Right... Except the ones that would volunteer to fight commies, and the fresh ones, who never got deployed.
"a tiny island like japan" would have a grenade and a rifle every 50 cm. they were teaching kids how to fight and how to die honorably. Don't even compare them to untrained conscripts that were ill-equipt, ill-fed and very very VERY ill-trained.
"fuel would not have been an issue" What is the fire-bombing of Dresden? Imagine 1/4 of that over the russian oil-fields. Yeah... It'd be a nice barbecue.
The "kid" actually knows what he is talking about, and isn't pulling numbers out of his ass. You're mixing self propelled guns with tanks and calling that 100 thousand. Ok, lets play that game. US, british and canadian tanks, personal carriers and tank destroyers supplied to the USSR were 19,510. Aircraft (fighters, bombers and transports) were 17,821. And that is LESS than 35% of the total aid the USSR got.
Not only that, but 2/3rds, yes, TWO THIRDS, EVERY 2 IN 3 trucks the mighty bear had were made by capitalist american pig dogs, like over 2 THOUSAND locomotives. And those invincible T34s that kept on blowing up? The other 75% of capitalist pig dog help were raw materials and food and industrial equipment. Meaning that a lot of those 100 thousand tanks were made WITH capitalist pig dog steel and with capitalist pig dog tools. Talk about the mighty bear being alone defeating Hitler. You know, with pig dog weapons, ammo, tanks, food and boots! The bear couldn't even make fucking boots! Nor did it have enough food! Sounds like a pretty shitty bear, to me.
#60 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
no youre just spouting pure shit as it you think ww2 america was a superhero that couldnt be stopped, like no matter what the soviets had usa could just walk right through it unharmed and kick soviet ass, give me a fucking break
germany had determination, skills and high technology, russia still won....theallies would have just been grass under the lawnmower
now kindly shut the fuck up, your ignorance is a cancer to FJ
#70 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
give me one comment that isnt "MUH RUSSIA STRONK BEAR RAWR"
of to summarize your bleatings "USA NUMBER ONE, DEMOCRACY, MUH FREEDOMS"
youre not american, your crappy lttle place is overshadowed by Spain so i can understand your bitterness that your neighbour nation is much bigger better and more important than yours....(so i take it your rage it like national penis envy over country size)
now go take your nap and have mommy make you a sandwich when you wake up
#82 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
yeah as if germany could fire AA a couple miles out into the airspace over the channel
its the fact some allied pilots were so fucked up on drugs to keep them awak they misread the maps and thought they were over france and instead dropped men into the channel
now stop trying to help whitewash the allies history of mistakes
#75 - GIJorge (09/02/2013) [-]
"plus lets not forget usa completely fucking up omaha beach and losing hsitloads of men fighting that, but then later writing up the 'history' to make it sound like they meant to do that and make it sound glorious
lets not forget how many shiity pilots usa had dropping people all over the place scattering them into all the wrong areas, even some in the sea that had to be picked up by the landing craft"
Omaha is ALWAYS considered a failure. The GLORY belonged to the soldiers, dipshit.
Like, you know, every single pilot back then, when flying low altitude, low speed transports against huge amounts of aa? Sure...
#72 - GIJorge (09/02/2013) [-]
Where have I ever used that as an argument? I don't even fucking like the USA. But whatever, you're too fucking dumb to rationalize that the biggest powerhouse of industrial and scientific growth in the world was more important than a bunch of other little countries and than a country filled with useless drunks whose greatest achievement in warfare is yelling URRRRAAAAA and charging head first into MGs hopping even one would survive.
The same Spain that everytime that tried to attack us got its teeth kicked in so hard they'd shit them a few years later. Sorry, that doesn't affect me. Think of how a finnish man thinks about a russian one. Same thing.
#73 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
that has been your entire argument in a nutshell "usa can beat everything ,russia cant do shit"
plus lets not forget usa completely fucking up omaha beach and losing hsitloads of men fighting that, but then later writing up the 'history' to make it sound like they meant to do that and make it sound glorious
lets not forget how many shiity pilots usa had dropping people all over the place scattering them into all the wrong areas, even some in the sea that had to be picked up by the landing craft
plus you show your ignorance by throwing around a stereotype of russians drinking...im sorry usa has a nice high binge drinking culture...lets not forget how back in the depression when everyone was poor as shit, americans STILL spent shitloads of their money on booze.....or back in the days of prohibition, americans NEEDED their alcohol so bad the black market made a ton of money on selling it illegally because americans NEEDED alcohol
seriously little boy, if your high horse got any higher youd need a space suit to breathe
#26 - sketchE (09/01/2013) [-]
so we meet again trebec.
while i am not going to deny the soviets did the most work and were very important im going to say the USs involvement was important too. with france out of the equation britain was on its own making very little progress on all fronts. germany was able to focus mainly on the eastern front at this point pushing all the way to stalingrad (leningrad?) a combination of poor decision making on the germans side a revitalized western front and US/GB strategic bombing.
then you can look to the other side. the pacific. if the US had not entered on that front it is possible that after raping everyone in china the japanese would turn towards russia puting them in a two front war. the japanese were more familiar with russias tactics having fought them more recently than germany
again not denying the importance of russia but saying the US was not needed is ignorant
#47 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
well it wasnt poor decision making on the germans part it was retarded little jewish adolf firing all his good generals for proposing modern battlefield tactics while adolf was trying to relive how he fought in world war ONE
Rommel, Runstedt, Reichenau, Guderian...he had some good generals, he just didnt fucking listen to them
#52 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
yep, little jewdolf thought germany could use blitzkrieg every day of the year, not listening to his generals trying to warm him about the bad weather, and thus repeating napoleans mistake of when france invaded russia
also, trying to tell jewdolf to stop come winter andlet the supply lines catch up and bring winter gear....nope, jewdolf just HAD to keep advancing
#57 - sketchE (09/02/2013) [-]
no it bothers me because you seem to be incapable of having a conversation with someone and not insulting someone. as you are polish you have a right to hate hitler, to some degree. im german and hungarian yet you wont hear me spouting dirogitory names against russia. i even admitted they were one of the biggest factors in the war
#71 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
Jewdolf the red-nosed Nazi\
Had a very jewish nose
And if you ever told him
Off to the camps you go
Some of the other nazis
Used to laugh and call him names
Now all of them are dead and
Burning in the ovens flames
Then one foggy winter Day
Russia came to say
Jewdolf we dont like your shit
We're coming to blow you to bits
Then all the the nazis loved him
As they shouted out with glee
Jewdolf the red nosed nazi
You'll go down in history
< your face when reading this
#63 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
well after so many years of listening to people bleat on about how great they thing usa is and how they accept western opinion that whoever usa shitmouths must actually be that way....gets kinda tiring
i have looked at both sides of the war, and its a fact the russians fought harder and over a larger area and over harsher terrain,..covering almost 6 times the distance usa did and still reached berlin first despite it all
#12 - oedad (09/01/2013) [-]
ok we will take a check with interest and inflation accounted for for the 6 years of food, armor, weapons, and material we supplied the allies with from 1939-1945. on second thought the commonwealth and russia can pool its resources and we'll just take Canada Australia, and everything east of the Urals and forgive the other half of the debt.
#49 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
america's debt is its government listing its people as national assets with 'birth certificates' as the asset registrations,
#54 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
watch the vid
once upon a time americans used to just write down their kids names in the family bible and that was legally accepted proof of a birth
then along comes someone with the brilliant idea of listing people as assets, like ships in a harbor given their certificate of Berth and cargo manifest. they decided to make human Birth certificates listing people as their own cargo of value
face it dude, people are just assets to the state, hence why when a person died why when someone dies they bitch so hard to get the original birth certificate back so they can close the account on that dead person
#56 - sketchE (09/02/2013) [-]
remember the conversation we had the other day about people being "lost" over faulty documentation? in the world today a birth certifiacte is a very important thing. imagine if a credit card is made i the name of baba oreilly. since this person never actually existed there is no way to prevent them from maxing out the credit card and walking away.
if you wish to use the humans as assets metaphor i must use an old phrase. what is the worth of a human life
#65 - konradkurze (09/02/2013) [-]
well thats just it, they use birth certificates as proof of a persons existence to keep the paperwork correct and have the credit debt attached to an actual person, they couldnt do this under the old method of writing names in a bible,
its even gone as far as the stock exchange, where if you looked deeper, countries are listed as 'corporations' and can be invested on, and makes perfect sense too - decades back when place like china and india were shit, usa invested in their 'corporations' while the prices were low, then invested in outsourcing to them so instead of chinese and indians going other places for work, they stayed in their own countries and their economies soared....thus raised the value of the nation-corporations stock
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I only have youtube links, both put together by the same guy, but they're pretty interesting. I did see another video on the subject but I don't remember where:
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It shouldn't be necessary to tell you that this is graphic.
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