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#16 - >The dealbreaker for me was seeing an Apache helicopter fly…  [+] (16 new replies) 04/28/2016 on 3 stooges of ISIS +1
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#17 - schnizel (04/28/2016) [-]
I'll look for it later, it's somewhere in my bookmarks.
www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-ramping-up-covert-training-program-for-moderate-syrian-rebels/2013/10/02/a0bba084-2af6-11e3-8ade-a1f23cda135e_story.html
Those are low tier fighters, the ones from most promos are very skilled. I saw many assassinations, both drive by and sniper shots and they are both very well executed.
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#18 - lilnuggetbob (04/28/2016) [-]
Thats the FSA, not ISIS.
FSA's goal is to take out Assad in Syria, but ISIS's is different, and seems much less focused on that.

Im just gonna say why i don't believe in this BS:

Which do you think is more likely.
That the US government Armed and train Iraqis And maybe some Islamic rebel groups. That either turned against us, or got killed and had their equipment taken by ISIS. Which has happened before.
Or
The oy vey Jewish conspiracy armed ISIS secretly, to destabilize the middle east even more, for some reason. And that they are using leftist tactics to destabilize America and Europe Despite the fact that, that is a REALLLLLLLYYYY bad thing for Israel, due to the fact that we fund like, 2/3's of their military, and arm and assist them frequently.
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#19 - schnizel (04/28/2016) [-]
United States Apache attack helicopter following behind ISIS convoy into Syria from Iraq
Meh, not really. Not all rebels are FSA, ISIS was formed out of multiple gangs and factions, including "rebels". ISIS kebabs even have a short book called "How to owerthrow Assad"
What bullshit?
The Israelis already admitted that it was in their best interest to destabilise Syria plus the Syrian officers are constantly reporting supply drops being dropped on ISIS positions from "unmarked aircraft".
And, it's not a conspiracy, it's official American-Israeli policy.
ISIS and other muzzies are nothing but useful immigrant.
Remember, the Al qaida in Libya when it was operating against Gadafi was "good" but literally the same people were "bad" in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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#20 - lilnuggetbob (04/28/2016) [-]
>Meh, not really. Not all rebels are FSA, ISIS was formed out of multiple gangs and factions, including "rebels". ISIS kebabs even have a short book called "How to owerthrow Assad"
While they may of, from just googling it, i couldn't find any info about ISIS actively attempting to overthrow Assad.

>plus the Syrian officers are constantly reporting supply drops being dropped on ISIS positions from "unmarked aircraft".
Again, source? No cite and the claim is basically meaningless.

>ISIS and other muzzies are nothing but useful immigrant.
How?

>Remember, the Al qaida in Libya when it was operating against Gadafi was "good" but literally the same people were "bad" in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I thought this was common info?
Infact, this supports my claim that the US government is just retarded, instead of being smart enough to form a comspiracy.

How do we know it isn't russia?
Russia would benefit far more from a destabilize middle east.
Increases oil prices, and they could attempt to "Stabilize" the region while actual keeping oils prices artificially high.
They're also using Russian equipment. AKM, RPG-V7, and IFV's like the BMP1/2, or tanks like the T-55 and T-62
Russia would benefit EVEN more than Israel, or the US could from these conflicts, but iv never seems a conspiracy about that, because its obvious that, that is fucking retarded.
#22 - schnizel (04/28/2016) [-]
>While they may of, from just googling it, i couldn't find any info about ISIS actively attempting to overthrow Assad.
Plus this www.globes.co.il/en/article.aspx?did=1001084873
and this www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/10/the-u-s-government-supplied-isis-iconic-pickup-trucks.html
www.liveleak.com/view?i=188_1411748599
>Infact, this supports my claim that the US government is just retarded, instead of being smart enough to form a comspiracy.
Retarded? They have won every single war they had except Vietnam, they chose to lose it and they have overthrown every single dictator they disliked in the middle east, I think they are far from retarded.
>Russia would benefit far more from a destabilize middle east.
Russia is actively fighting ISIS and the only man reliable and loyal to them is Assad, and they don't want to lose him.
>They're also using Russian equipment.
Mostly old material, sold from the black market.
>Russia would benefit EVEN more than Israel
No, they lose Assad, they lose a port, they loose an ally and a military base there, as well as a market. The Shia crescent would also be broken with the downfall of Syria, plus if anything goes wrong and Turkey goes to war against Russia, they would wage a war on two fronts, if Iran and the Kurds decide to team up with them and I think they will.
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#23 - lilnuggetbob (04/28/2016) [-]
That's Washington blog link is broken for me, but ill take your word for it.

>Retarded? They have won every single war they had except Vietnam, they chose to lose it and they have overthrown every single dictator they disliked in the middle east, I think they are far from retarded.
Im not talking about combat efficency, im talking about logistics.
Im talking about the government that lost an experimental 100-ton tank in the woods for 18 years. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T28_Super_Heavy_Tank
Im talking about the government that forgot to issues cleaning kits to some of its troops during Vietnam. The factory shipped them out, but they forgot to distribute in some areas.
webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TD7SIzlGGQMJ:www.forgottenweapons.com/vietnams-overburdened-m16/+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Im talking about the government that supplied and armed a terrorist orginazation because we didn't want to fight the Russians ourselves, but once that was over decided that they were our enemy. Al-queda

>Mostly old material, sold from the black market.
Thats the point, that any theory's that Russia benefits from a destabilized middle east are retarded, even though they would benefit more from it. Jacked up oil prices, and the ability to say that they are "freeing" the area from turrurist, and thusly control large sources of oil. BTW i'm not serious about that, its just an example of how easy it is more make a theory like yours, but with even more evidence.

IF ISIS is an Israel creation, that why are we constantly demonizing them, why wouldn't we praise them, and call them brave freedom fighters like with the FSA/Al-Qaeda?
Or Praise them for fighting assad?
If we did, than we could publicly arm, and support them like we did with Al-Qaeda or FSA?
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#24 - schnizel (04/28/2016) [-]
It might have made some my well endowed daddyistrative mistakes in terms of logistics but it isn't retarded. Also, the Al Kwaidons are a good tool to use in the "War of terror".
>Thats the point, that any theory's that Russia benefits from a destabilized middle east are retarded, even though they would benefit more from it.
No, not really, I just explained why.
>IF ISIS is an Israel creation, that why are we constantly demonizing them, why wouldn't we praise them,
Because they are the "enemy", a good scarecrow.
>and call them brave freedom fighters like with the FSA/Al-Qaeda?
They are everything but brave and freedom fighting morons but I don't think they are very civil with the chopy chopy part.
>If we did, than we could publicly arm, and support them like we did with Al-Qaeda or FSA?
>What's covert ops?
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#25 - lilnuggetbob (04/28/2016) [-]
While you might not have of made any, or few mistakes, that doesn't mean your higher ups, that told you to do things didn't.
Such as telling you to arm a group that would obviously become a terror group later.

A better scarecrow would be Russia, as they were for like, 60 years, in this little thing known as the "Cold war"
FSA, and AL-Qaeda are the same, they're just less public about it. All Islamic freedomfighter/terrorist/rebel/whateveryouwannacallthem groups do choppy choppy, its a part of their culture.
Secretly arming the enemy is much more dangerous Threat of exposure , hard to pull off Threat of exposure , and expensive To ensure that there is no exposure. , than openly arming them as an ally.

Also, what would we get out of destabilizing the middle east with terror groups?
Its well known that they'll do it on their own.
Why not focus more on Palestine as an enemy? So Israel can kill more of them with less backlash, and take their land.
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#26 - schnizel (04/28/2016) [-]
>Such as telling you to arm a group that would obviously become a terror group later.
But still a useful tool in global politics. Do you think US is a global police force with no blood on their hands?
>A better scarecrow would be Russia, as they were for like, 60 years, in this little thing known as the "Cold war"
The cold war is over, and they don't snibedy snap US necks.
>Also, what would we get out of destabilizing the middle east with terror groups?
Overthrow Assad and weaken Russian influence. Plus, weak muslims means strong Israel.
>Why not focus more on Palestine as an enemy?
They are, but at a slower pace. But why accept millions of muzzies that you are going to have to take care of and that will cause a decline in economy when you can just slowly build settlments in the strip.
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#27 - lilnuggetbob (04/28/2016) [-]
>But still a useful tool in global politics. Do you think US is a global police force with no blood on their hands?
That seems unrelated to my comment?

>The cold war is over, and they don't snibedy snap US necks.
What? I was saying that the idea that Russia is the enemy, is still fresh in peoples heads, and it would be super easy to reinsert it.

>Overthrow Assad and weaken Russian influence.
Again, it would make more sense if the made Russia the enemy, than terror groups after.

>Plus, weak muslims means strong Israel
Yes, Russia is really the only hope to make a strong middle east, so, again, why not demonize them like in the cold war, so when we are terror groups, we can say it is in the name of freedom.

>They are, but at a slower pace. But why accept millions of muzzies that you are going to have to take care of and that will cause a decline in economy when you can just slowly build settlments in the strip.
That doesn't make sense, if they made ISIS in Palestine, they could just do like what we did with Iraq.

Also, how would Israel benefit from a economicly dead europe?
That would fuck over America's economy, and we might cut support to Israel, and that would NOT be a good thing for them.
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#28 - schnizel (04/28/2016) [-]
>That seems unrelated to my comment?
No, it just shows the steps the US is willing to take to achieve victory.
>What? I was saying that the idea that Russia is the enemy, is still fresh in peoples heads, and it would be super easy to reinsert it.
But Russia isn't bombing subways and night clubs, muzzies are.
>Again, it would make more sense if the made Russia the enemy, than terror groups after.
But they couldn't, Russian role in the Syrian war is supporting Assad, the one the US want gone. US and Russia know the damage a direct conflict will lead so they are trying to stay away from it.
>Yes, Russia is really the only hope to make a strong middle east, so, again, why not demonize them like in the cold war, so when we are terror groups, we can say it is in the name of freedom.
Russia has a lot of shit to deal with as of now, Ukraine as well as debt as well as the economic crisis as well as the fact that they spend 8 million $ per day in Syria.
>That doesn't make sense, if they made ISIS in Palestine, they could just do like what we did with Iraq.
ISIS is efficient, somewhat, but Palestine allready has one group of idiots, HAMAS.
>Also, how would Israel benefit from a economicly dead europe?
As long as there is debt there will be life.
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#30 - lilnuggetbob (04/28/2016) [-]
>But Russia isn't bombing subways and night clubs, muzzies are.
They would if we hid terror groups in them.

>But they couldn't, Russian role in the Syrian war is supporting Assad, the one the US want gone. US and Russia know the damage a direct conflict will lead so they are trying to stay away from it.
Im saying we should do what we did in the 80's with the Al-qaeda, it'd be cheaper and easier than what were doing now.

>Russia has a lot of shit to deal with as of now, Ukraine as well as debt as well as the economic crisis as well as the fact that they spend 8 million $ per day in Syria.
How with this stop us from demonizing them?

>ISIS is efficient, somewhat, but Palestine allready has one group of idiots, HAMAS.
True, but they are not nearly as demonized as ISIS, if Israel really controlled the world, they would focus on the most benefical group to them Demonizing Hamas, so they could take over Palestine, and take all of their oil, and it would be much more than what ISIS gives them. , but instead focus on ISIS, that holds no benefits for them. besides selling some oil.
Also, a dead man holds no debts.

My point is:
If there is a kike conspiracy, and they're as good as you say they are, than they would realize that they could be doing this like 10x cheaper and more efficiently, with a much lower chance of bad info spilling. And it seems more like a series of idiotic mistakes that Israel is taking advange of.
Like the formation of Hamas and ISIS

And im not saying, that Israel is perfect and will never do anything bad, far from it.
I'm sure if there was an opening for a conspiracy, they would take advantage of it, but rather that they are not compent enough to do the level of complicated politician moves to get them a very small amount of, well, anything.
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#31 - schnizel (04/28/2016) [-]
But you didn't, that would be a bad move. Also, you, you?
>Im saying we should do what we did in the 80's with the Al-qaeda, it'd be cheaper and easier than what were doing now.
The subvertive tactic failed, that's why ISIS was made.
>How with this stop us from demonizing them?
You aren't, every single COD bad guy is Russian or has Russian support.
>True, but they are not nearly as demonized as ISIS, if Israel really controlled the world, they would focus on the most benefical group to them Demonizing Hamas, so they could take over Palestine, and take all of their oil, and it would be much more than what ISIS gives them. , but instead focus on ISIS, that holds no benefits for them
A conspiracy is not defined upon by demonizing something.
>I'm sure if there was an opening for a conspiracy, they would take advantage of it, but rather that they are not compent enough to do the level of complicated politician moves to get them a very small amount of, well, anything.
They get the middle east with no ressistance.
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#32 - lilnuggetbob (04/28/2016) [-]
Looking at our last few comments, i think were falling into an infinite loop of argument.
Same points, just slightly reworded, and most of the are biased on psychology/Whats MOST likely to happen, and are thusly unprovable.
Im not going to make any points or try to prove anything in this next comment, just explain what i believe in a short n simple format.

I don't believe these conspiracies, because i believe that if Israel was as powerful, and manipulative as you say they are, they would be doing this a lot more efficiently.
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#33 - schnizel (04/29/2016) [-]
Life isn't a video game, things like this need time and much effort.
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#14 - >> #5 , They totally didn't get them from the Iraqi…  [+] (18 new replies) 04/27/2016 on 3 stooges of ISIS +2
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#15 - schnizel (04/28/2016) [-]
The dealbreaker for me was seeing an Apache helicopter flying over an ISIS convoy and doing nothing. I've been getting numerous pieces of information that the US is dropping supply drops to Syria, but they won't tell exactly where. They have also stated that they have trained fighters there, but they won't exactly say which ones.
I've seen a shitton of ISIS videos, and we may make fun of them for being backwards, but judging from just heir assassinations, they are professionals.
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#16 - lilnuggetbob (04/28/2016) [-]
>The dealbreaker for me was seeing an Apache helicopter flying over an ISIS convoy and doing nothing
Source?

>I've been getting numerous pieces of information that the US is dropping supply drops to Syria, but they won't tell exactly where. They have also stated that they have trained fighters there, but they won't exactly say which ones.
Again, source?

>I've seen a shitton of ISIS videos, and we may make fun of them for being backwards, but judging from just heir assassinations, they are professionals.
I don't know what videos you've been watching, but the ones i see look like ghetto trash killing eachother.
Drive-bys, or shooting at their car from another moving vehicle, ect. Far from professional.
www.liveleak.com/view?i=588_1393602298
www.liveleak.com/view?i=a14_1393345190

All the videos about ISIS assasinating people i could find on LL, the rest were reposts or from before ISIS existed.
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#17 - schnizel (04/28/2016) [-]
I'll look for it later, it's somewhere in my bookmarks.
www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-ramping-up-covert-training-program-for-moderate-syrian-rebels/2013/10/02/a0bba084-2af6-11e3-8ade-a1f23cda135e_story.html
Those are low tier fighters, the ones from most promos are very skilled. I saw many assassinations, both drive by and sniper shots and they are both very well executed.
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#18 - lilnuggetbob (04/28/2016) [-]
Thats the FSA, not ISIS.
FSA's goal is to take out Assad in Syria, but ISIS's is different, and seems much less focused on that.

Im just gonna say why i don't believe in this BS:

Which do you think is more likely.
That the US government Armed and train Iraqis And maybe some Islamic rebel groups. That either turned against us, or got killed and had their equipment taken by ISIS. Which has happened before.
Or
The oy vey Jewish conspiracy armed ISIS secretly, to destabilize the middle east even more, for some reason. And that they are using leftist tactics to destabilize America and Europe Despite the fact that, that is a REALLLLLLLYYYY bad thing for Israel, due to the fact that we fund like, 2/3's of their military, and arm and assist them frequently.
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#19 - schnizel (04/28/2016) [-]
United States Apache attack helicopter following behind ISIS convoy into Syria from Iraq
Meh, not really. Not all rebels are FSA, ISIS was formed out of multiple gangs and factions, including "rebels". ISIS kebabs even have a short book called "How to owerthrow Assad"
What bullshit?
The Israelis already admitted that it was in their best interest to destabilise Syria plus the Syrian officers are constantly reporting supply drops being dropped on ISIS positions from "unmarked aircraft".
And, it's not a conspiracy, it's official American-Israeli policy.
ISIS and other muzzies are nothing but useful immigrant.
Remember, the Al qaida in Libya when it was operating against Gadafi was "good" but literally the same people were "bad" in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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#20 - lilnuggetbob (04/28/2016) [-]
>Meh, not really. Not all rebels are FSA, ISIS was formed out of multiple gangs and factions, including "rebels". ISIS kebabs even have a short book called "How to owerthrow Assad"
While they may of, from just googling it, i couldn't find any info about ISIS actively attempting to overthrow Assad.

>plus the Syrian officers are constantly reporting supply drops being dropped on ISIS positions from "unmarked aircraft".
Again, source? No cite and the claim is basically meaningless.

>ISIS and other muzzies are nothing but useful immigrant.
How?

>Remember, the Al qaida in Libya when it was operating against Gadafi was "good" but literally the same people were "bad" in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I thought this was common info?
Infact, this supports my claim that the US government is just retarded, instead of being smart enough to form a comspiracy.

How do we know it isn't russia?
Russia would benefit far more from a destabilize middle east.
Increases oil prices, and they could attempt to "Stabilize" the region while actual keeping oils prices artificially high.
They're also using Russian equipment. AKM, RPG-V7, and IFV's like the BMP1/2, or tanks like the T-55 and T-62
Russia would benefit EVEN more than Israel, or the US could from these conflicts, but iv never seems a conspiracy about that, because its obvious that, that is fucking retarded.
#22 - schnizel (04/28/2016) [-]
>While they may of, from just googling it, i couldn't find any info about ISIS actively attempting to overthrow Assad.
Plus this www.globes.co.il/en/article.aspx?did=1001084873
and this www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/10/the-u-s-government-supplied-isis-iconic-pickup-trucks.html
www.liveleak.com/view?i=188_1411748599
>Infact, this supports my claim that the US government is just retarded, instead of being smart enough to form a comspiracy.
Retarded? They have won every single war they had except Vietnam, they chose to lose it and they have overthrown every single dictator they disliked in the middle east, I think they are far from retarded.
>Russia would benefit far more from a destabilize middle east.
Russia is actively fighting ISIS and the only man reliable and loyal to them is Assad, and they don't want to lose him.
>They're also using Russian equipment.
Mostly old material, sold from the black market.
>Russia would benefit EVEN more than Israel
No, they lose Assad, they lose a port, they loose an ally and a military base there, as well as a market. The Shia crescent would also be broken with the downfall of Syria, plus if anything goes wrong and Turkey goes to war against Russia, they would wage a war on two fronts, if Iran and the Kurds decide to team up with them and I think they will.
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#23 - lilnuggetbob (04/28/2016) [-]
That's Washington blog link is broken for me, but ill take your word for it.

>Retarded? They have won every single war they had except Vietnam, they chose to lose it and they have overthrown every single dictator they disliked in the middle east, I think they are far from retarded.
Im not talking about combat efficency, im talking about logistics.
Im talking about the government that lost an experimental 100-ton tank in the woods for 18 years. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T28_Super_Heavy_Tank
Im talking about the government that forgot to issues cleaning kits to some of its troops during Vietnam. The factory shipped them out, but they forgot to distribute in some areas.
webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TD7SIzlGGQMJ:www.forgottenweapons.com/vietnams-overburdened-m16/+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Im talking about the government that supplied and armed a terrorist orginazation because we didn't want to fight the Russians ourselves, but once that was over decided that they were our enemy. Al-queda

>Mostly old material, sold from the black market.
Thats the point, that any theory's that Russia benefits from a destabilized middle east are retarded, even though they would benefit more from it. Jacked up oil prices, and the ability to say that they are "freeing" the area from turrurist, and thusly control large sources of oil. BTW i'm not serious about that, its just an example of how easy it is more make a theory like yours, but with even more evidence.

IF ISIS is an Israel creation, that why are we constantly demonizing them, why wouldn't we praise them, and call them brave freedom fighters like with the FSA/Al-Qaeda?
Or Praise them for fighting assad?
If we did, than we could publicly arm, and support them like we did with Al-Qaeda or FSA?
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#24 - schnizel (04/28/2016) [-]
It might have made some my well endowed daddyistrative mistakes in terms of logistics but it isn't retarded. Also, the Al Kwaidons are a good tool to use in the "War of terror".
>Thats the point, that any theory's that Russia benefits from a destabilized middle east are retarded, even though they would benefit more from it.
No, not really, I just explained why.
>IF ISIS is an Israel creation, that why are we constantly demonizing them, why wouldn't we praise them,
Because they are the "enemy", a good scarecrow.
>and call them brave freedom fighters like with the FSA/Al-Qaeda?
They are everything but brave and freedom fighting morons but I don't think they are very civil with the chopy chopy part.
>If we did, than we could publicly arm, and support them like we did with Al-Qaeda or FSA?
>What's covert ops?
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#25 - lilnuggetbob (04/28/2016) [-]
While you might not have of made any, or few mistakes, that doesn't mean your higher ups, that told you to do things didn't.
Such as telling you to arm a group that would obviously become a terror group later.

A better scarecrow would be Russia, as they were for like, 60 years, in this little thing known as the "Cold war"
FSA, and AL-Qaeda are the same, they're just less public about it. All Islamic freedomfighter/terrorist/rebel/whateveryouwannacallthem groups do choppy choppy, its a part of their culture.
Secretly arming the enemy is much more dangerous Threat of exposure , hard to pull off Threat of exposure , and expensive To ensure that there is no exposure. , than openly arming them as an ally.

Also, what would we get out of destabilizing the middle east with terror groups?
Its well known that they'll do it on their own.
Why not focus more on Palestine as an enemy? So Israel can kill more of them with less backlash, and take their land.
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#26 - schnizel (04/28/2016) [-]
>Such as telling you to arm a group that would obviously become a terror group later.
But still a useful tool in global politics. Do you think US is a global police force with no blood on their hands?
>A better scarecrow would be Russia, as they were for like, 60 years, in this little thing known as the "Cold war"
The cold war is over, and they don't snibedy snap US necks.
>Also, what would we get out of destabilizing the middle east with terror groups?
Overthrow Assad and weaken Russian influence. Plus, weak muslims means strong Israel.
>Why not focus more on Palestine as an enemy?
They are, but at a slower pace. But why accept millions of muzzies that you are going to have to take care of and that will cause a decline in economy when you can just slowly build settlments in the strip.
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#27 - lilnuggetbob (04/28/2016) [-]
>But still a useful tool in global politics. Do you think US is a global police force with no blood on their hands?
That seems unrelated to my comment?

>The cold war is over, and they don't snibedy snap US necks.
What? I was saying that the idea that Russia is the enemy, is still fresh in peoples heads, and it would be super easy to reinsert it.

>Overthrow Assad and weaken Russian influence.
Again, it would make more sense if the made Russia the enemy, than terror groups after.

>Plus, weak muslims means strong Israel
Yes, Russia is really the only hope to make a strong middle east, so, again, why not demonize them like in the cold war, so when we are terror groups, we can say it is in the name of freedom.

>They are, but at a slower pace. But why accept millions of muzzies that you are going to have to take care of and that will cause a decline in economy when you can just slowly build settlments in the strip.
That doesn't make sense, if they made ISIS in Palestine, they could just do like what we did with Iraq.

Also, how would Israel benefit from a economicly dead europe?
That would fuck over America's economy, and we might cut support to Israel, and that would NOT be a good thing for them.
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#28 - schnizel (04/28/2016) [-]
>That seems unrelated to my comment?
No, it just shows the steps the US is willing to take to achieve victory.
>What? I was saying that the idea that Russia is the enemy, is still fresh in peoples heads, and it would be super easy to reinsert it.
But Russia isn't bombing subways and night clubs, muzzies are.
>Again, it would make more sense if the made Russia the enemy, than terror groups after.
But they couldn't, Russian role in the Syrian war is supporting Assad, the one the US want gone. US and Russia know the damage a direct conflict will lead so they are trying to stay away from it.
>Yes, Russia is really the only hope to make a strong middle east, so, again, why not demonize them like in the cold war, so when we are terror groups, we can say it is in the name of freedom.
Russia has a lot of shit to deal with as of now, Ukraine as well as debt as well as the economic crisis as well as the fact that they spend 8 million $ per day in Syria.
>That doesn't make sense, if they made ISIS in Palestine, they could just do like what we did with Iraq.
ISIS is efficient, somewhat, but Palestine allready has one group of idiots, HAMAS.
>Also, how would Israel benefit from a economicly dead europe?
As long as there is debt there will be life.
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#30 - lilnuggetbob (04/28/2016) [-]
>But Russia isn't bombing subways and night clubs, muzzies are.
They would if we hid terror groups in them.

>But they couldn't, Russian role in the Syrian war is supporting Assad, the one the US want gone. US and Russia know the damage a direct conflict will lead so they are trying to stay away from it.
Im saying we should do what we did in the 80's with the Al-qaeda, it'd be cheaper and easier than what were doing now.

>Russia has a lot of shit to deal with as of now, Ukraine as well as debt as well as the economic crisis as well as the fact that they spend 8 million $ per day in Syria.
How with this stop us from demonizing them?

>ISIS is efficient, somewhat, but Palestine allready has one group of idiots, HAMAS.
True, but they are not nearly as demonized as ISIS, if Israel really controlled the world, they would focus on the most benefical group to them Demonizing Hamas, so they could take over Palestine, and take all of their oil, and it would be much more than what ISIS gives them. , but instead focus on ISIS, that holds no benefits for them. besides selling some oil.
Also, a dead man holds no debts.

My point is:
If there is a kike conspiracy, and they're as good as you say they are, than they would realize that they could be doing this like 10x cheaper and more efficiently, with a much lower chance of bad info spilling. And it seems more like a series of idiotic mistakes that Israel is taking advange of.
Like the formation of Hamas and ISIS

And im not saying, that Israel is perfect and will never do anything bad, far from it.
I'm sure if there was an opening for a conspiracy, they would take advantage of it, but rather that they are not compent enough to do the level of complicated politician moves to get them a very small amount of, well, anything.
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#31 - schnizel (04/28/2016) [-]
But you didn't, that would be a bad move. Also, you, you?
>Im saying we should do what we did in the 80's with the Al-qaeda, it'd be cheaper and easier than what were doing now.
The subvertive tactic failed, that's why ISIS was made.
>How with this stop us from demonizing them?
You aren't, every single COD bad guy is Russian or has Russian support.
>True, but they are not nearly as demonized as ISIS, if Israel really controlled the world, they would focus on the most benefical group to them Demonizing Hamas, so they could take over Palestine, and take all of their oil, and it would be much more than what ISIS gives them. , but instead focus on ISIS, that holds no benefits for them
A conspiracy is not defined upon by demonizing something.
>I'm sure if there was an opening for a conspiracy, they would take advantage of it, but rather that they are not compent enough to do the level of complicated politician moves to get them a very small amount of, well, anything.
They get the middle east with no ressistance.
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#32 - lilnuggetbob (04/28/2016) [-]
Looking at our last few comments, i think were falling into an infinite loop of argument.
Same points, just slightly reworded, and most of the are biased on psychology/Whats MOST likely to happen, and are thusly unprovable.
Im not going to make any points or try to prove anything in this next comment, just explain what i believe in a short n simple format.

I don't believe these conspiracies, because i believe that if Israel was as powerful, and manipulative as you say they are, they would be doing this a lot more efficiently.
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#33 - schnizel (04/29/2016) [-]
Life isn't a video game, things like this need time and much effort.
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#62 - slater (04/27/2016) [-]
my apologies. I wanted to reply to the person above this. Im tired.
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#182 - StickyTissueLoLz (04/27/2016) [-]
Then maybe you should take a long dirt nap. Forever.


Faggot.
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#253 - slater (04/28/2016) [-]
You are fuckin horrible, kid. I was just fucking around and you go and completely turn that around to something drastic. Maybe you should be the one to go lie down in a ditch and die.
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#38 - slater (04/27/2016) [-]
Silly Pleb. Low end enhancement mods for low end PC's and Consoles. 60 fps UHD graphics. r9 290 X 2 . 60 fps all day at 4k.

/taunt

Thanks for the links to the mods though. Here's a thumb.
#181 - loopzoop (04/27/2016) [-]
...good for you?
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#113 - presidentmoose (04/27/2016) [-]
there aren't enough dicks in the world to quench your thirst you faggot
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#254 - slater (04/28/2016) [-]
Takes a faggot to know a faggot. All you butt hurt tools when i was making a joke. Go outside for once.
#255 - presidentmoose (04/28/2016) [-]
It was a terrible joke. Along with what you just said, basically being; "I know you are but what am I?"

And I read all of your individual responses to the people who were in turn making their own jokes towards your bad joke, and you seem to be the most upset on here...

You should relax and get some fresh air, dude.

I do agree with you as far as that kid telling you to die, though. That was pretty fucking uncool
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#39 - lilnuggetbob (04/27/2016) [-]
What?
I found these mods for the person that wanted the, they aint for me.
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#62 - slater (04/27/2016) [-]
my apologies. I wanted to reply to the person above this. Im tired.
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#182 - StickyTissueLoLz (04/27/2016) [-]
Then maybe you should take a long dirt nap. Forever.


Faggot.
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#253 - slater (04/28/2016) [-]
You are fuckin horrible, kid. I was just fucking around and you go and completely turn that around to something drastic. Maybe you should be the one to go lie down in a ditch and die.
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#27 - mikethemerciless (04/23/2016) [-]
On the bright side, it was just him and I left, so I didn't die.
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#25 - mikethemerciless (04/23/2016) [-]
Failtoon. Got dragged into a t7/8/9 match
#72 - geofalke (04/23/2016) [-]
**geofalke used "*roll picture*"**
**geofalke rolled image**>failtooning

this is part of the reason I don't play WoT much any more. I can't tell you how many tier X matches have been ruined because someone thought it would be funny to platoon two tier I-III tanks with a tier VIII light tank.
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#26 - lilnuggetbob (04/23/2016) [-]
Oh ok.
#27 - mikethemerciless (04/23/2016) [-]
On the bright side, it was just him and I left, so I didn't die.
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#81 - badatusernames (04/23/2016) [-]
Great, now I'm thinking of tanks using baby deer as rear armor
#22 - mikethemerciless (04/23/2016) [-]
Covenanter, the 2 shot burst with like a second inbetween. 44mm piercing I think.
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#23 - lilnuggetbob (04/23/2016) [-]
Why the fuck were you fighting a T9 TD with a T4 LT?
#25 - mikethemerciless (04/23/2016) [-]
Failtoon. Got dragged into a t7/8/9 match
#72 - geofalke (04/23/2016) [-]
**geofalke used "*roll picture*"**
**geofalke rolled image**>failtooning

this is part of the reason I don't play WoT much any more. I can't tell you how many tier X matches have been ruined because someone thought it would be funny to platoon two tier I-III tanks with a tier VIII light tank.
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#26 - lilnuggetbob (04/23/2016) [-]
Oh ok.
#27 - mikethemerciless (04/23/2016) [-]
On the bright side, it was just him and I left, so I didn't die.