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|#270 - look no offence and this is really off-topic but anyways: … [+] (14 new replies)||07/26/2014 on Fuck this||+3|
#281 - jdrinfantry (07/26/2014) [-]
I see it this way. If you talk shit about the war in afghanistan and the war on terror, you have either forgotten what it felt like to see the burnt corpses of innocent women and children in the London underground bombing, the bombing in Madrid, 9/11 etc. or you believe that it is right to commit these hidious crimes. I believe it needs to be settled. I will not stand by while these things happen again and again.
This is not a single terrorist attack, this is organized terrorisation of the west, caused by just a few highly funded organisations that may even rival NATO and the UN. These Organisations are known as Hizbollah in Lebanon, Hamas in Palestine, the Taleban in Afghanistan, Al Shabaab in Somalia and Al Qaeda as the international terror organisation.
#342 - atomicman (07/26/2014) [-]
I do agree that the orthodox and manipulating religion in the middle east is a pest to be hopefully cured as soon as possible. But we have to stay humane. Fighting evil with evil only feeds the ever burning fire of anger.
Take Israel for example. The footage. They use artillery on big cities to intentionally kill civilians (in an attempt to scare them off, obviously) and blame it on 'but they use humans as meatshield, we can do nothing but kill them'. So what do we see in the video? They launch their artillery on the city, and immediately when a new barrage is on it's way to slaughter innocent people they start dancing around praising jesus.
For god's sake people
#366 - jdrinfantry (07/26/2014) [-]
Hamas fires rockets from kindergartens and schools, often in volleys so the israeli iron dome cannot take all of them. No matter what you'll see civilian targets. Either israeli civilians are killed by Hamas rockets, or Israel destroys their missile ramps. It is not a scare tactic, it is a cruel joke of a choice between 2 evils.
I still blame Hamas for using women and children as meatshields for their insane jihad.
#338 - atomicman (07/26/2014) [-]
No. The war is Afghanistan was a crime. Not only had the government literally set a huge deceiving smoke screen in motion (the 'they have nuclear warheads' thing), which was widely believed in America and outside. But they also killed and bombed hundreds of innocent civilians because they 'assumed' there did be terrorists in there.
You can go cry about the burning corpses from 9/11, but no one cares about the innocent war victims in Afghanistan.
This war was one of the biggest mistakes I have ever seen a country make. And really made me hate America for a long time. It was like a barking dog, who got hit severely and suddenly lost all his manners to go full locust against everyone he could find. America betrayed the international laws and killed hundreds and hundreds of innocent civilians in their blitzkrieg like advancement in the middle east. And those are only the recorded victims.
And all of this just because people cannot control their emotions. I agree action should've been taken. But not in the way America did it. Going on a rampage and deceiving all her allies to gain temporary support.
#367 - jdrinfantry (07/26/2014) [-]
I agree that the approach wasn't perfect, but it would never become perfect fighting an enemy so cruel that fights without dignity. But fact is that in Afghanistan they never targeted civilians. When I served there, a lot of times when we were in dipshit trouble and we doubted we would make it out alive, we couldn't even get artillery or Close Air support simply because of the risk of collateral damage.
That is an issue that the insurgents wouldn't give a damn about. I blame the civilian losses in these wars solely on the insurgents. They endangered civilians not coalition forces.
#359 - nimba (07/26/2014) [-]
They don't believe in human rights, but it's typical that the US believes itself to be the world police when they are repeatedly shown to have so little understanding and finesse regarding international issues. What happens when these blunders occur? They say 'the time for negotiations is over' and double up their bullish tactics, which increases hostility towards them exponentially. When they get burnt because of their interference they declare full war and, like the gambler who doesn't know when to cut their losses and run, they are willing to piss everything onto the problem even if it means the whole world will be covered in their piss.
#368 - jdrinfantry (07/26/2014) [-]
Listen to me. Do you believe that if the US had done nothing it would've been better? Because I'm fucking glad I don't live amongst cowards unwilling to fight when there is a true and dangerous evil out there! There are civilians in these countries who are just like you and me, wishing for a better place, and I believe and KNOW that our intervention down there has giving them a slight chance of living decent lives, or at least giving their new generation a chance to do good!
#369 - nimba (07/26/2014) [-]
So the way you live is the undisputed best culture in the world and you owe it to the rest of the world to spread your lifestyle? Sounds like evangelical-esque crusading to me. Have you considered that these people don't want their ancient culture corrupted and whitewashed by international soccermoms in the same way that idiots in europe feel their culture being steam-rolled by waves of Islamic immigrants?
#370 - jdrinfantry (07/26/2014) [-]
It has absolutely fucking nothing to do with culture. I respect all cultures equally. But you know what I don't respect? terror organisations who value no human life and has no dignity! All people should have rights, just like you and me to rant about what we believe is right and not be killed or have our children tortured for it! This happens in afghanistan, you better fucking believe it. I've seen children dangling in trees in the Gereskh Valley, parents who will never see their children grow up, and you think this is a fucking culture discussion. This is about human lives and values! Fuck religion, fuck culture, as long as we aren't strung from trees for no apparent reason!
#319 - jdrinfantry (07/26/2014) [-]
The CIA funded the mujahadeens back in the eighties to repell the soviet invasion. The Mujahadeens later split up into seperate organisations known as the Taleban, Pashtun warlords (Such as Karzai whom we are supporting as the current leader of afghanistan) which means they fought each other.
Some are good, some are bad but fact is they did not fund the Al Qaeda. Besides how were they supposed to know that in 2000 they would call out a global Jihad on all western countries? So fucking easy to be captain hinsight.
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#522 - puttman (06/12/2014) [-]
douchedick lost his mind, thats a mental health issue not gun
grabbed his dads guns thats a parental issue
wouldnt get a handy uhhhhh personal issue?
ya its sucks that he decided to take a gun and use it in this manner but getting rid of the gun wont get rid of the douchedick, the bad parents, and and those stuck up no handies bitches, come on give a brother a hand
|#440 - i dont get it, why do you need to carry a weapon? what are the… [+] (4 new replies)||06/12/2014 on don't be a pleb||-9|
#527 - CIS White Male (06/12/2014) [-]
Now just take the time to think about this. 90% of these murders you are talking about happen in areas that you are not allowed to carry guns in.
Then take the time to think about this...the number of murders in the U.S. are, as charagrin said, about the same per capita as elsewhere.
Then take the time to think about this. The crime rate in the US is about the same in other countries. Our prison population is higher because of longer prison sentences, not more crime.
Then take the time to think about this. Nothing you just said has anything to do with charagrins belief that you should be allowed to carry a weapon on some back roads in the country, but not in a big populated store. Or his idea that the weapons like an AR or AK should not be carried openly.
Take a final bit of time to realize that you are an idiot.
#466 - charagrin (06/12/2014) [-]
The answer is both simple and complicated. "A man who gives up liberty in exchange for safety, deserves neither", the problem is finding the line between the 2. I am not some nutter who thinks "dah gub-a-mint" is out to get me, I just don't think they are out to help me either.
And the ultimate truth is, it is far FAR too late to try and take away our guns, even if anti-gun people were right about them being the cause of everything from cancer to bank fraud. They are already here, you can't just flick a switch and have them disappear.
People always talk about gun crime as though it is the end all statistic we need to pay attention to. But look at actual crime statistics. The UK has a murder rate just as high per capita as the US, the only difference is guns are not used as much. People use what is readily available to commit the crime, but the crime itself remains the same.
As for me personally carrying, I decided to get into guns after a druggie broke into my grandparents house thinking it was the location for a a dealer of some kind, broke my 76(at the time) year old grandfathers arm, took a knife, stole their car, and crashed it into a neighbors house. If you genuinely feel that "guns are bad" than you are a moron. You blame guns so you don't have to face the fact that man makes the choice to do wrong, the gun is just the tool on hand.
#741 - CIS White Male (06/12/2014) [-]
I need a new gun for the Russian-made tank I bought 5 years ago.
But teh ebul Obammunist gubmint keeps its statist nazim00zlem grip on the ownership of 125mm single-shot smoothbore guns! It's a VIOLASHUN OF ME RIGHTS!
SECOND AMENDMENT! REMEMBER TEH ALAMO! TEH BLUNK OF THEIR EYES! STATES RIGHTS! FROM ME COLD DEHD HANDS! FREEEEDDUUUUUM!!!