x
Click to expand

lcarnage

Last status update:
-
Personal Info
Gender: male
Age: 28
Date Signed Up:4/18/2011
Last Login:3/22/2015
Funnyjunk Career Stats
Content Thumbs: 2128 total,  2465 ,  337
Comment Thumbs: 1847 total,  2649 ,  802
Content Level Progress: 28% (28/100)
Level 121 Content: Respected Member Of Famiry → Level 122 Content: Respected Member Of Famiry
Comment Level Progress: 35% (35/100)
Level 218 Comments: Comedic Genius → Level 219 Comments: Comedic Genius
Subscribers:2
Content Views:116676
Times Content Favorited:61 times
Total Comments Made:752
FJ Points:4029
Favorite Tags: Cars (2) | the description (2)

latest user's comments

#30 - How can I whistle for help if I have a heart attack? I've had …  [+] (9 new replies) 09/03/2012 on Drowning -2
User avatar #47 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
That's good for you. Really, I'm glad.

But making him have to haul you out of the water as difficult as possible if someone happens to you is kind of an asshole move if you think about it, isn't it?
User avatar #49 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I don't intentionally put myself in the situation where I'm injured, I put myself in the situation where there is more risk than is necessary. Probably due to carelessness, trying to seem 'cool', I don't know.
User avatar #64 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
This isn't just about you, actually.
In a group and a potentially dangerous situation, you have responsibility to the others.

Dude, I've been inside burning buildings knowing there's a buddy trusting me blindly.
I fuck up, he might die. I'm careless and injure myself and I'm putting the others in danger having to get me out.
Putting up warning signs on the road while the others are there cutting people out of the wrecks isn't glorious work, but if I fuck up I might get all of them killed.
Therefore reflective vest and careful walking instead of running.

Same thing with you. Imagine someone gets hurt because of having to help you.
You don't wanna do that to anyone.
User avatar #66 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
You're clearly more experienced in these situations than I am, which is undeniable. One part of me tells me to keep safe. But the other half wants me to push my boundaries.
User avatar #67 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
" But the other half wants me to push my boundaries."

Fuck that half. It's not worth it if someone else has to pay for it.
User avatar #68 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not must not stay there, you must go beyond them."

- Bruce Lee

Where is the point you should stop pushing your boundaries? If you never did you would be ordinary, not extraordinary. I would not wish for someone to risk themselves to save me due to a mistake I made.
User avatar #73 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
The point is when you affect and endanger others.
Just like Bruce Lee would have never made a lethal blow against a training partner.
That's what Darth Vader would do, if you excuse that fictional example.

"I would not wish for someone to risk themselves to save me due to a mistake I made."
Neither would I. I couldn't live with someone suffering for my mistakes.
But you know what? My buddies could never live with letting anyone behind either, hell, that's why we did what we did in the first place. And I fucking know they wouldn't have hesitated. If I wasn't atheist I'd praise the lord and give thanks push never came to shove.

If you've got a bunch of heartless assholes, then you may be able to pull it off, but don't count on good people being selfish and heartless. Won't work.
#77 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
Ok now we're on a similar page, all this time I thought you were against pushing boundaries. I can stop this rant now.
#33 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Seriously dude? Google shit. Pro swimmers have gone into the sea and drowned because of cramps. Shut up now.
#27 - No, Russian roulette someone is guaranteed to die. It is a dif…  [+] (18 new replies) 09/03/2012 on Drowning -3
#35 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
"what do you do on a daily basis"
u sound like an arrogant twat mate

think your so high and mighty

sit down and shut up
User avatar #37 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
The only information that you know of me is that I prefer not to wear life jackets, so don't hold any prejudice.
User avatar #34 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Freeclimbing someone is guaranteed to die as well.
Gravity is always in effect, grip strength or balance can fail. That's your guarantee right there.

Hell yeah I'm not used to putting myself in danger to no avail. Why the hell would I?
Doesn't mean I have a boring life, if that's what you're playing at.
Years in the firebrigade, military service, now sporadic weightlifting, climbing and archery while I wait for university to start next month.
That's kind of what I do at the moment.

Still, safety is always highest concern. I'd hate to cripple myself or injure others through neglect.
User avatar #36 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
That isn't guarantee, that's a possibility. In russian roulette there is a bullet which WILL kill one or more of the competitors.

I would never even consider free climbing, for the same reason as you, though I love to do lead climbing.
User avatar #39 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
It is a possibility that the individual dies, but the guarantee that someone will fall and die in both. Whether you are killed by the kinetic energy of a metal slug or your own impacting the ground doesn't make a difference.

It's a gamble with death itself, and a completely unnecessary one in both cases.
User avatar #41 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
Both of which I don't do and never will do.
User avatar #43 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Yet you go sea kayaking without a lifevest.
User avatar #46 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I'll let you in on a secret,

That is bullshit, I don't own a sea kayak, it was simply something to enhance the clarity of my opinion. I've only ever rented kayaks in which it is compulsory to wear a life jacket, to which I comply.
User avatar #50 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
That changes nothing if you think about it.
This is a debate about attitude and safety reasoning, not practice.
User avatar #53 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
Ok, let me get this straight. If someone's life was under my responsibility I wouldn't think twice about strapping them up with a helmet, shoes and life jacket before going out. I do not think for a moment that companies such as Jersey Adventures (A local company who takes groups out kayaking and such) is unnecessarily preparing the people who are participating. I completely agree with their methods. If I was in the same situation, I'd take the same pre-cautions. But it's the trust in my friends and myself that stops me from putting all the advised safety gear on. It's the same reason people choose not to wear a seatbelt: Comfort and trust.
#273 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Not to wear seatbelts just because you trust your friend's driving skills is idiotic. No matter how good he would be at driving, there's people in the traffic that aren't so good or just don't care and may hit you. There can always be surprising conditions that you have no control over and wich can injure you or even kill you. This is why safety gear was invented, to prevent injuries from conditions you can't control. Not to use the safety gear is stupid and irresponsible, always. Just because you enjoy the adrenaline rush you get from doing stupid things, doesn't make them right or acceptable, nor does it really make your life any better.
User avatar #65 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
That's complacent, idiotic and completely irresponsible.
You might think it's your personal decision because it's only affecting you, but it isn't because it doesn't.

Don't be the weak link in the chain.
#59 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Oh dear God. Comfort and trust is more important than safety? You are stupider than I first thought. In the same logic, if someone else is driving like a nutter you can crash. It's not always the driver's fault. Same with you. Even if you know what you're doing, you could always misplace your foot when you jump and land on rocks and die.

And if you were really their friend you would wear a lifejacket. It makes it much easier to save you, and imagine how they'd feel if you died because of your stupidity and ignorance?
User avatar #61 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
If you read the whole message you'd realise I think safety is more important than comfort and trust, and you think I'm ignorant.
#38 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Mathematically, you're wrong. Sorry.

With Russian Roulette, you can't say someone WILL die. It's wrong. Yes, if you had an infinite amount of time, someone would, but not in reality. There is a 1/6 probability that somone will die first time. A 1/6 the next game too. So there's a 1/36 someone will die in the first two rounds. And a 1/216 by round 3. Mathematically the chances will increase every time, but nobody HAS TO die.

Same in anything you say you're doing. Chances may be incredible low that you may get stung by a box jellyfish, but there's always a chance, and you can't say there isn't.

Also just to throw in, I completely disagree with everything you're saying. Little kids like you that think they know everything piss me off.
User avatar #42 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Hate to attack your argument, but you're wrong.
The revolvers cylinder is only spun once, meaning the maximum number of possible turns is 6.
Russian roulette ends with a corpse. Always.
User avatar #40 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I never said I know everything. I worded one of my comments badly which made it seem like I think I'm invincible, which is highly false. I am aware that there is always the CHANCE of something going wrong, but I can't put it into words why I choose to do these things.
#44 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
That's not why everyone hates you. You didn't word anything badly, you're stupid, you think you know everything (eg trying to disprove everyone with flawed arguments) and you were wrong about that jellyfish thing that the other guy corrected you on.
#25 - And regarding the dangerous jellyfish, if all my vital organs …  [+] (11 new replies) 09/03/2012 on Drowning -3
#28 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Yeah if your vital organs did, but not if your muscles cramped or you had a heart attack? If you can float and whistle for help, you at least have a chance of survival.
User avatar #30 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
How can I whistle for help if I have a heart attack? I've had leg cramp while swimming and you know what I did? Tread water. I've said this before and I'll say it again, I'm ALWAYS with someone, of which are qualified in beach lifeguarding, same as me. Knowledgeable of how to handle a situation such as this.
User avatar #47 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
That's good for you. Really, I'm glad.

But making him have to haul you out of the water as difficult as possible if someone happens to you is kind of an asshole move if you think about it, isn't it?
User avatar #49 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I don't intentionally put myself in the situation where I'm injured, I put myself in the situation where there is more risk than is necessary. Probably due to carelessness, trying to seem 'cool', I don't know.
User avatar #64 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
This isn't just about you, actually.
In a group and a potentially dangerous situation, you have responsibility to the others.

Dude, I've been inside burning buildings knowing there's a buddy trusting me blindly.
I fuck up, he might die. I'm careless and injure myself and I'm putting the others in danger having to get me out.
Putting up warning signs on the road while the others are there cutting people out of the wrecks isn't glorious work, but if I fuck up I might get all of them killed.
Therefore reflective vest and careful walking instead of running.

Same thing with you. Imagine someone gets hurt because of having to help you.
You don't wanna do that to anyone.
User avatar #66 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
You're clearly more experienced in these situations than I am, which is undeniable. One part of me tells me to keep safe. But the other half wants me to push my boundaries.
User avatar #67 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
" But the other half wants me to push my boundaries."

Fuck that half. It's not worth it if someone else has to pay for it.
User avatar #68 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not must not stay there, you must go beyond them."

- Bruce Lee

Where is the point you should stop pushing your boundaries? If you never did you would be ordinary, not extraordinary. I would not wish for someone to risk themselves to save me due to a mistake I made.
User avatar #73 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
The point is when you affect and endanger others.
Just like Bruce Lee would have never made a lethal blow against a training partner.
That's what Darth Vader would do, if you excuse that fictional example.

"I would not wish for someone to risk themselves to save me due to a mistake I made."
Neither would I. I couldn't live with someone suffering for my mistakes.
But you know what? My buddies could never live with letting anyone behind either, hell, that's why we did what we did in the first place. And I fucking know they wouldn't have hesitated. If I wasn't atheist I'd praise the lord and give thanks push never came to shove.

If you've got a bunch of heartless assholes, then you may be able to pull it off, but don't count on good people being selfish and heartless. Won't work.
#77 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
Ok now we're on a similar page, all this time I thought you were against pushing boundaries. I can stop this rant now.
#33 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Seriously dude? Google shit. Pro swimmers have gone into the sea and drowned because of cramps. Shut up now.
#24 - I didn't mention them because they were irrelevant to the subj…  [+] (3 new replies) 09/03/2012 on Drowning -3
#29 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
How are some jellyfish relevant and others not? You started by saying that the only danger is the weak jellyfish. It got pointed out that there are more dangerous ones. The subject is life jackets, wear them or not.

It's clear they would help in said situations. You're wrong.

Plus, jellyfish float along the surface. They get carried with winds and currents.
So you're telling me there's never wind coming towards the place where you go tombstoning? Nor currents? Bullshit.

Do you think washed up jellyfish teleport to the beach? No. They get taken there. And with the swells and tides of Jersey, you never can know.


Ps… red thumbs mean stop.
User avatar #32 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
They aren't irrelevant but the unlikelihood of it's happening is so low that there is little need to take so much pre-caution.

Red thumbs mean people disagree with what I'm saying or think it's stupid, not to stop.
#58 - Deathfyre (09/03/2012) [-]
"the unlikelihood of it's happening is so low" Remember kids, just say no to double negatives, then they become triples, and everything's fine
#22 - I assume you're 'iidonteven' so just refer to comment #17. … 09/03/2012 on Drowning -3
#20 - When you take it out of context it sounds idiotic, but take fr…  [+] (20 new replies) 09/03/2012 on Drowning -3
User avatar #23 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
It's not even out of context, what are you talking about?
They are idiots as well for needlessly putting themselves in danger.
As are people playing Russian roulette, same principle.

Sorry, but that's kind of a definition.
User avatar #27 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
No, Russian roulette someone is guaranteed to die. It is a different way of life, one you're clearly not used to.

Tell me, what do you do on a daily basis?
#35 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
"what do you do on a daily basis"
u sound like an arrogant twat mate

think your so high and mighty

sit down and shut up
User avatar #37 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
The only information that you know of me is that I prefer not to wear life jackets, so don't hold any prejudice.
User avatar #34 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Freeclimbing someone is guaranteed to die as well.
Gravity is always in effect, grip strength or balance can fail. That's your guarantee right there.

Hell yeah I'm not used to putting myself in danger to no avail. Why the hell would I?
Doesn't mean I have a boring life, if that's what you're playing at.
Years in the firebrigade, military service, now sporadic weightlifting, climbing and archery while I wait for university to start next month.
That's kind of what I do at the moment.

Still, safety is always highest concern. I'd hate to cripple myself or injure others through neglect.
User avatar #36 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
That isn't guarantee, that's a possibility. In russian roulette there is a bullet which WILL kill one or more of the competitors.

I would never even consider free climbing, for the same reason as you, though I love to do lead climbing.
User avatar #39 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
It is a possibility that the individual dies, but the guarantee that someone will fall and die in both. Whether you are killed by the kinetic energy of a metal slug or your own impacting the ground doesn't make a difference.

It's a gamble with death itself, and a completely unnecessary one in both cases.
User avatar #41 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
Both of which I don't do and never will do.
User avatar #43 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Yet you go sea kayaking without a lifevest.
User avatar #46 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I'll let you in on a secret,

That is bullshit, I don't own a sea kayak, it was simply something to enhance the clarity of my opinion. I've only ever rented kayaks in which it is compulsory to wear a life jacket, to which I comply.
User avatar #50 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
That changes nothing if you think about it.
This is a debate about attitude and safety reasoning, not practice.
User avatar #53 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
Ok, let me get this straight. If someone's life was under my responsibility I wouldn't think twice about strapping them up with a helmet, shoes and life jacket before going out. I do not think for a moment that companies such as Jersey Adventures (A local company who takes groups out kayaking and such) is unnecessarily preparing the people who are participating. I completely agree with their methods. If I was in the same situation, I'd take the same pre-cautions. But it's the trust in my friends and myself that stops me from putting all the advised safety gear on. It's the same reason people choose not to wear a seatbelt: Comfort and trust.
#273 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Not to wear seatbelts just because you trust your friend's driving skills is idiotic. No matter how good he would be at driving, there's people in the traffic that aren't so good or just don't care and may hit you. There can always be surprising conditions that you have no control over and wich can injure you or even kill you. This is why safety gear was invented, to prevent injuries from conditions you can't control. Not to use the safety gear is stupid and irresponsible, always. Just because you enjoy the adrenaline rush you get from doing stupid things, doesn't make them right or acceptable, nor does it really make your life any better.
User avatar #65 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
That's complacent, idiotic and completely irresponsible.
You might think it's your personal decision because it's only affecting you, but it isn't because it doesn't.

Don't be the weak link in the chain.
#59 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Oh dear God. Comfort and trust is more important than safety? You are stupider than I first thought. In the same logic, if someone else is driving like a nutter you can crash. It's not always the driver's fault. Same with you. Even if you know what you're doing, you could always misplace your foot when you jump and land on rocks and die.

And if you were really their friend you would wear a lifejacket. It makes it much easier to save you, and imagine how they'd feel if you died because of your stupidity and ignorance?
User avatar #61 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
If you read the whole message you'd realise I think safety is more important than comfort and trust, and you think I'm ignorant.
#38 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Mathematically, you're wrong. Sorry.

With Russian Roulette, you can't say someone WILL die. It's wrong. Yes, if you had an infinite amount of time, someone would, but not in reality. There is a 1/6 probability that somone will die first time. A 1/6 the next game too. So there's a 1/36 someone will die in the first two rounds. And a 1/216 by round 3. Mathematically the chances will increase every time, but nobody HAS TO die.

Same in anything you say you're doing. Chances may be incredible low that you may get stung by a box jellyfish, but there's always a chance, and you can't say there isn't.

Also just to throw in, I completely disagree with everything you're saying. Little kids like you that think they know everything piss me off.
User avatar #42 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Hate to attack your argument, but you're wrong.
The revolvers cylinder is only spun once, meaning the maximum number of possible turns is 6.
Russian roulette ends with a corpse. Always.
User avatar #40 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I never said I know everything. I worded one of my comments badly which made it seem like I think I'm invincible, which is highly false. I am aware that there is always the CHANCE of something going wrong, but I can't put it into words why I choose to do these things.
#44 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
That's not why everyone hates you. You didn't word anything badly, you're stupid, you think you know everything (eg trying to disprove everyone with flawed arguments) and you were wrong about that jellyfish thing that the other guy corrected you on.
#17 - I've lived on this island for all 16 years of my life, I'm awa…  [+] (17 new replies) 09/03/2012 on Drowning -3
#21 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
If you're aware why did you say that the only dangerous animal was a jelly with bee sting then?

And if you knew anything you'd know that dangerous jellyfish can shut down your nervous system. Your heart can stop, muscles, breathing, everything. So if that happens without a life jacket you're in deep shit. At least with one you can float and whistle for help.
User avatar #25 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
And regarding the dangerous jellyfish, if all my vital organs stopped I'd be fucked regardless.
#28 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Yeah if your vital organs did, but not if your muscles cramped or you had a heart attack? If you can float and whistle for help, you at least have a chance of survival.
User avatar #30 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
How can I whistle for help if I have a heart attack? I've had leg cramp while swimming and you know what I did? Tread water. I've said this before and I'll say it again, I'm ALWAYS with someone, of which are qualified in beach lifeguarding, same as me. Knowledgeable of how to handle a situation such as this.
User avatar #47 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
That's good for you. Really, I'm glad.

But making him have to haul you out of the water as difficult as possible if someone happens to you is kind of an asshole move if you think about it, isn't it?
User avatar #49 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I don't intentionally put myself in the situation where I'm injured, I put myself in the situation where there is more risk than is necessary. Probably due to carelessness, trying to seem 'cool', I don't know.
User avatar #64 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
This isn't just about you, actually.
In a group and a potentially dangerous situation, you have responsibility to the others.

Dude, I've been inside burning buildings knowing there's a buddy trusting me blindly.
I fuck up, he might die. I'm careless and injure myself and I'm putting the others in danger having to get me out.
Putting up warning signs on the road while the others are there cutting people out of the wrecks isn't glorious work, but if I fuck up I might get all of them killed.
Therefore reflective vest and careful walking instead of running.

Same thing with you. Imagine someone gets hurt because of having to help you.
You don't wanna do that to anyone.
User avatar #66 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
You're clearly more experienced in these situations than I am, which is undeniable. One part of me tells me to keep safe. But the other half wants me to push my boundaries.
User avatar #67 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
" But the other half wants me to push my boundaries."

Fuck that half. It's not worth it if someone else has to pay for it.
User avatar #68 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not must not stay there, you must go beyond them."

- Bruce Lee

Where is the point you should stop pushing your boundaries? If you never did you would be ordinary, not extraordinary. I would not wish for someone to risk themselves to save me due to a mistake I made.
User avatar #73 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
The point is when you affect and endanger others.
Just like Bruce Lee would have never made a lethal blow against a training partner.
That's what Darth Vader would do, if you excuse that fictional example.

"I would not wish for someone to risk themselves to save me due to a mistake I made."
Neither would I. I couldn't live with someone suffering for my mistakes.
But you know what? My buddies could never live with letting anyone behind either, hell, that's why we did what we did in the first place. And I fucking know they wouldn't have hesitated. If I wasn't atheist I'd praise the lord and give thanks push never came to shove.

If you've got a bunch of heartless assholes, then you may be able to pull it off, but don't count on good people being selfish and heartless. Won't work.
#77 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
Ok now we're on a similar page, all this time I thought you were against pushing boundaries. I can stop this rant now.
#33 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Seriously dude? Google shit. Pro swimmers have gone into the sea and drowned because of cramps. Shut up now.
User avatar #24 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I didn't mention them because they were irrelevant to the subject, you clearly don't know the context in which you are talking about. Box jelly fish and PMWs do NOT go where I go tombstoning, they are very far out in the sea.
#29 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
How are some jellyfish relevant and others not? You started by saying that the only danger is the weak jellyfish. It got pointed out that there are more dangerous ones. The subject is life jackets, wear them or not.

It's clear they would help in said situations. You're wrong.

Plus, jellyfish float along the surface. They get carried with winds and currents.
So you're telling me there's never wind coming towards the place where you go tombstoning? Nor currents? Bullshit.

Do you think washed up jellyfish teleport to the beach? No. They get taken there. And with the swells and tides of Jersey, you never can know.


Ps… red thumbs mean stop.
User avatar #32 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
They aren't irrelevant but the unlikelihood of it's happening is so low that there is little need to take so much pre-caution.

Red thumbs mean people disagree with what I'm saying or think it's stupid, not to stop.
#58 - Deathfyre (09/03/2012) [-]
"the unlikelihood of it's happening is so low" Remember kids, just say no to double negatives, then they become triples, and everything's fine
#16 - I'm only 16, the stereotype of teenagers thinking they are inv…  [+] (22 new replies) 09/03/2012 on Drowning -6
User avatar #18 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Are you telling me you willingly embrace your irrationality and needlessly endanger your life for fun?

You are a complete idiot if that is so.
User avatar #20 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
When you take it out of context it sounds idiotic, but take free climbing for example. They aren't idiots, they are fully in control of what they are doing, but accidents happen. It's all for thrills.
User avatar #23 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
It's not even out of context, what are you talking about?
They are idiots as well for needlessly putting themselves in danger.
As are people playing Russian roulette, same principle.

Sorry, but that's kind of a definition.
User avatar #27 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
No, Russian roulette someone is guaranteed to die. It is a different way of life, one you're clearly not used to.

Tell me, what do you do on a daily basis?
#35 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
"what do you do on a daily basis"
u sound like an arrogant twat mate

think your so high and mighty

sit down and shut up
User avatar #37 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
The only information that you know of me is that I prefer not to wear life jackets, so don't hold any prejudice.
User avatar #34 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Freeclimbing someone is guaranteed to die as well.
Gravity is always in effect, grip strength or balance can fail. That's your guarantee right there.

Hell yeah I'm not used to putting myself in danger to no avail. Why the hell would I?
Doesn't mean I have a boring life, if that's what you're playing at.
Years in the firebrigade, military service, now sporadic weightlifting, climbing and archery while I wait for university to start next month.
That's kind of what I do at the moment.

Still, safety is always highest concern. I'd hate to cripple myself or injure others through neglect.
User avatar #36 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
That isn't guarantee, that's a possibility. In russian roulette there is a bullet which WILL kill one or more of the competitors.

I would never even consider free climbing, for the same reason as you, though I love to do lead climbing.
User avatar #39 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
It is a possibility that the individual dies, but the guarantee that someone will fall and die in both. Whether you are killed by the kinetic energy of a metal slug or your own impacting the ground doesn't make a difference.

It's a gamble with death itself, and a completely unnecessary one in both cases.
User avatar #41 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
Both of which I don't do and never will do.
User avatar #43 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Yet you go sea kayaking without a lifevest.
User avatar #46 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I'll let you in on a secret,

That is bullshit, I don't own a sea kayak, it was simply something to enhance the clarity of my opinion. I've only ever rented kayaks in which it is compulsory to wear a life jacket, to which I comply.
User avatar #50 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
That changes nothing if you think about it.
This is a debate about attitude and safety reasoning, not practice.
User avatar #53 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
Ok, let me get this straight. If someone's life was under my responsibility I wouldn't think twice about strapping them up with a helmet, shoes and life jacket before going out. I do not think for a moment that companies such as Jersey Adventures (A local company who takes groups out kayaking and such) is unnecessarily preparing the people who are participating. I completely agree with their methods. If I was in the same situation, I'd take the same pre-cautions. But it's the trust in my friends and myself that stops me from putting all the advised safety gear on. It's the same reason people choose not to wear a seatbelt: Comfort and trust.
#273 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Not to wear seatbelts just because you trust your friend's driving skills is idiotic. No matter how good he would be at driving, there's people in the traffic that aren't so good or just don't care and may hit you. There can always be surprising conditions that you have no control over and wich can injure you or even kill you. This is why safety gear was invented, to prevent injuries from conditions you can't control. Not to use the safety gear is stupid and irresponsible, always. Just because you enjoy the adrenaline rush you get from doing stupid things, doesn't make them right or acceptable, nor does it really make your life any better.
User avatar #65 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
That's complacent, idiotic and completely irresponsible.
You might think it's your personal decision because it's only affecting you, but it isn't because it doesn't.

Don't be the weak link in the chain.
#59 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Oh dear God. Comfort and trust is more important than safety? You are stupider than I first thought. In the same logic, if someone else is driving like a nutter you can crash. It's not always the driver's fault. Same with you. Even if you know what you're doing, you could always misplace your foot when you jump and land on rocks and die.

And if you were really their friend you would wear a lifejacket. It makes it much easier to save you, and imagine how they'd feel if you died because of your stupidity and ignorance?
User avatar #61 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
If you read the whole message you'd realise I think safety is more important than comfort and trust, and you think I'm ignorant.
#38 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Mathematically, you're wrong. Sorry.

With Russian Roulette, you can't say someone WILL die. It's wrong. Yes, if you had an infinite amount of time, someone would, but not in reality. There is a 1/6 probability that somone will die first time. A 1/6 the next game too. So there's a 1/36 someone will die in the first two rounds. And a 1/216 by round 3. Mathematically the chances will increase every time, but nobody HAS TO die.

Same in anything you say you're doing. Chances may be incredible low that you may get stung by a box jellyfish, but there's always a chance, and you can't say there isn't.

Also just to throw in, I completely disagree with everything you're saying. Little kids like you that think they know everything piss me off.
User avatar #42 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Hate to attack your argument, but you're wrong.
The revolvers cylinder is only spun once, meaning the maximum number of possible turns is 6.
Russian roulette ends with a corpse. Always.
User avatar #40 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I never said I know everything. I worded one of my comments badly which made it seem like I think I'm invincible, which is highly false. I am aware that there is always the CHANCE of something going wrong, but I can't put it into words why I choose to do these things.
#44 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
That's not why everyone hates you. You didn't word anything badly, you're stupid, you think you know everything (eg trying to disprove everyone with flawed arguments) and you were wrong about that jellyfish thing that the other guy corrected you on.
#15 - There are 12 inches in a foot, an inch is roughly 2.5 centimet… 09/03/2012 on People's first thought when... 0
#1 - Picture 09/03/2012 on Just some Exam 0
#2 - Picture 09/03/2012 on Goofed 0
#12 - If I was alone, fair enough, but I never do potentially danger…  [+] (45 new replies) 09/03/2012 on Drowning -4
#19 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
You still have risk of cramp and shit?

And jersey is south of the English coast, you still get jellyfish there that can cause strong irritating rashes lasting up to 72h, and occasionally box jellyfish and Portuguese man of war are spotted in that sea, and they can do serious damage. You can find conga eels, up to 2ft long that could take your fingers off. Also you have strong currents there and big swell.

If you go into the sea you'll find more than you think.
User avatar #22 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I assume you're 'iidonteven' so just refer to comment #17.

And I never said I underestimated the sea, I completely respect it and am aware of how much power it holds.
#15 - iidonteven has deleted their comment.
User avatar #17 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I've lived on this island for all 16 years of my life, I'm aware there are conga eels, box jelly fish and PMWs. The thing is, PMWs are incredibly easy to spot, box jelly fish are only real dangers when diving, same as PMWs really; and conga eels? Well personally I've never seen one and regardless if I had a life jacket or not I'd be in pretty deep shit.
#21 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
If you're aware why did you say that the only dangerous animal was a jelly with bee sting then?

And if you knew anything you'd know that dangerous jellyfish can shut down your nervous system. Your heart can stop, muscles, breathing, everything. So if that happens without a life jacket you're in deep shit. At least with one you can float and whistle for help.
User avatar #25 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
And regarding the dangerous jellyfish, if all my vital organs stopped I'd be fucked regardless.
#28 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Yeah if your vital organs did, but not if your muscles cramped or you had a heart attack? If you can float and whistle for help, you at least have a chance of survival.
User avatar #30 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
How can I whistle for help if I have a heart attack? I've had leg cramp while swimming and you know what I did? Tread water. I've said this before and I'll say it again, I'm ALWAYS with someone, of which are qualified in beach lifeguarding, same as me. Knowledgeable of how to handle a situation such as this.
User avatar #47 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
That's good for you. Really, I'm glad.

But making him have to haul you out of the water as difficult as possible if someone happens to you is kind of an asshole move if you think about it, isn't it?
User avatar #49 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I don't intentionally put myself in the situation where I'm injured, I put myself in the situation where there is more risk than is necessary. Probably due to carelessness, trying to seem 'cool', I don't know.
User avatar #64 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
This isn't just about you, actually.
In a group and a potentially dangerous situation, you have responsibility to the others.

Dude, I've been inside burning buildings knowing there's a buddy trusting me blindly.
I fuck up, he might die. I'm careless and injure myself and I'm putting the others in danger having to get me out.
Putting up warning signs on the road while the others are there cutting people out of the wrecks isn't glorious work, but if I fuck up I might get all of them killed.
Therefore reflective vest and careful walking instead of running.

Same thing with you. Imagine someone gets hurt because of having to help you.
You don't wanna do that to anyone.
User avatar #66 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
You're clearly more experienced in these situations than I am, which is undeniable. One part of me tells me to keep safe. But the other half wants me to push my boundaries.
User avatar #67 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
" But the other half wants me to push my boundaries."

Fuck that half. It's not worth it if someone else has to pay for it.
User avatar #68 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not must not stay there, you must go beyond them."

- Bruce Lee

Where is the point you should stop pushing your boundaries? If you never did you would be ordinary, not extraordinary. I would not wish for someone to risk themselves to save me due to a mistake I made.
User avatar #73 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
The point is when you affect and endanger others.
Just like Bruce Lee would have never made a lethal blow against a training partner.
That's what Darth Vader would do, if you excuse that fictional example.

"I would not wish for someone to risk themselves to save me due to a mistake I made."
Neither would I. I couldn't live with someone suffering for my mistakes.
But you know what? My buddies could never live with letting anyone behind either, hell, that's why we did what we did in the first place. And I fucking know they wouldn't have hesitated. If I wasn't atheist I'd praise the lord and give thanks push never came to shove.

If you've got a bunch of heartless assholes, then you may be able to pull it off, but don't count on good people being selfish and heartless. Won't work.
#77 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
Ok now we're on a similar page, all this time I thought you were against pushing boundaries. I can stop this rant now.
#33 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Seriously dude? Google shit. Pro swimmers have gone into the sea and drowned because of cramps. Shut up now.
User avatar #24 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I didn't mention them because they were irrelevant to the subject, you clearly don't know the context in which you are talking about. Box jelly fish and PMWs do NOT go where I go tombstoning, they are very far out in the sea.
#29 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
How are some jellyfish relevant and others not? You started by saying that the only danger is the weak jellyfish. It got pointed out that there are more dangerous ones. The subject is life jackets, wear them or not.

It's clear they would help in said situations. You're wrong.

Plus, jellyfish float along the surface. They get carried with winds and currents.
So you're telling me there's never wind coming towards the place where you go tombstoning? Nor currents? Bullshit.

Do you think washed up jellyfish teleport to the beach? No. They get taken there. And with the swells and tides of Jersey, you never can know.


Ps… red thumbs mean stop.
User avatar #32 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
They aren't irrelevant but the unlikelihood of it's happening is so low that there is little need to take so much pre-caution.

Red thumbs mean people disagree with what I'm saying or think it's stupid, not to stop.
#58 - Deathfyre (09/03/2012) [-]
"the unlikelihood of it's happening is so low" Remember kids, just say no to double negatives, then they become triples, and everything's fine
User avatar #14 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Why would you deprive yourself of options when it come to something so crucial as safety?
I don't understand.
#16 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I'm only 16, the stereotype of teenagers thinking they are invincible is pretty concrete. I do these things for fun and life jackets and helmets seem to remove that aspect for me.
User avatar #18 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Are you telling me you willingly embrace your irrationality and needlessly endanger your life for fun?

You are a complete idiot if that is so.
User avatar #20 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
When you take it out of context it sounds idiotic, but take free climbing for example. They aren't idiots, they are fully in control of what they are doing, but accidents happen. It's all for thrills.
User avatar #23 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
It's not even out of context, what are you talking about?
They are idiots as well for needlessly putting themselves in danger.
As are people playing Russian roulette, same principle.

Sorry, but that's kind of a definition.
User avatar #27 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
No, Russian roulette someone is guaranteed to die. It is a different way of life, one you're clearly not used to.

Tell me, what do you do on a daily basis?
#35 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
"what do you do on a daily basis"
u sound like an arrogant twat mate

think your so high and mighty

sit down and shut up
User avatar #37 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
The only information that you know of me is that I prefer not to wear life jackets, so don't hold any prejudice.
User avatar #34 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Freeclimbing someone is guaranteed to die as well.
Gravity is always in effect, grip strength or balance can fail. That's your guarantee right there.

Hell yeah I'm not used to putting myself in danger to no avail. Why the hell would I?
Doesn't mean I have a boring life, if that's what you're playing at.
Years in the firebrigade, military service, now sporadic weightlifting, climbing and archery while I wait for university to start next month.
That's kind of what I do at the moment.

Still, safety is always highest concern. I'd hate to cripple myself or injure others through neglect.
User avatar #36 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
That isn't guarantee, that's a possibility. In russian roulette there is a bullet which WILL kill one or more of the competitors.

I would never even consider free climbing, for the same reason as you, though I love to do lead climbing.
User avatar #39 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
It is a possibility that the individual dies, but the guarantee that someone will fall and die in both. Whether you are killed by the kinetic energy of a metal slug or your own impacting the ground doesn't make a difference.

It's a gamble with death itself, and a completely unnecessary one in both cases.
User avatar #41 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
Both of which I don't do and never will do.
User avatar #43 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Yet you go sea kayaking without a lifevest.
User avatar #46 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I'll let you in on a secret,

That is bullshit, I don't own a sea kayak, it was simply something to enhance the clarity of my opinion. I've only ever rented kayaks in which it is compulsory to wear a life jacket, to which I comply.
User avatar #50 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
That changes nothing if you think about it.
This is a debate about attitude and safety reasoning, not practice.
User avatar #53 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
Ok, let me get this straight. If someone's life was under my responsibility I wouldn't think twice about strapping them up with a helmet, shoes and life jacket before going out. I do not think for a moment that companies such as Jersey Adventures (A local company who takes groups out kayaking and such) is unnecessarily preparing the people who are participating. I completely agree with their methods. If I was in the same situation, I'd take the same pre-cautions. But it's the trust in my friends and myself that stops me from putting all the advised safety gear on. It's the same reason people choose not to wear a seatbelt: Comfort and trust.
#273 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Not to wear seatbelts just because you trust your friend's driving skills is idiotic. No matter how good he would be at driving, there's people in the traffic that aren't so good or just don't care and may hit you. There can always be surprising conditions that you have no control over and wich can injure you or even kill you. This is why safety gear was invented, to prevent injuries from conditions you can't control. Not to use the safety gear is stupid and irresponsible, always. Just because you enjoy the adrenaline rush you get from doing stupid things, doesn't make them right or acceptable, nor does it really make your life any better.
User avatar #65 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
That's complacent, idiotic and completely irresponsible.
You might think it's your personal decision because it's only affecting you, but it isn't because it doesn't.

Don't be the weak link in the chain.
#59 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Oh dear God. Comfort and trust is more important than safety? You are stupider than I first thought. In the same logic, if someone else is driving like a nutter you can crash. It's not always the driver's fault. Same with you. Even if you know what you're doing, you could always misplace your foot when you jump and land on rocks and die.

And if you were really their friend you would wear a lifejacket. It makes it much easier to save you, and imagine how they'd feel if you died because of your stupidity and ignorance?
User avatar #61 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
If you read the whole message you'd realise I think safety is more important than comfort and trust, and you think I'm ignorant.
#38 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Mathematically, you're wrong. Sorry.

With Russian Roulette, you can't say someone WILL die. It's wrong. Yes, if you had an infinite amount of time, someone would, but not in reality. There is a 1/6 probability that somone will die first time. A 1/6 the next game too. So there's a 1/36 someone will die in the first two rounds. And a 1/216 by round 3. Mathematically the chances will increase every time, but nobody HAS TO die.

Same in anything you say you're doing. Chances may be incredible low that you may get stung by a box jellyfish, but there's always a chance, and you can't say there isn't.

Also just to throw in, I completely disagree with everything you're saying. Little kids like you that think they know everything piss me off.
User avatar #42 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Hate to attack your argument, but you're wrong.
The revolvers cylinder is only spun once, meaning the maximum number of possible turns is 6.
Russian roulette ends with a corpse. Always.
User avatar #40 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I never said I know everything. I worded one of my comments badly which made it seem like I think I'm invincible, which is highly false. I am aware that there is always the CHANCE of something going wrong, but I can't put it into words why I choose to do these things.
#44 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
That's not why everyone hates you. You didn't word anything badly, you're stupid, you think you know everything (eg trying to disprove everyone with flawed arguments) and you were wrong about that jellyfish thing that the other guy corrected you on.
#9 - I never wear a life jacket when sea kayaking or tombstoning, t…  [+] (47 new replies) 09/03/2012 on Drowning -12
#11 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
They can save you from unpredictable situations like leg cramp or getting tired or panicing because something touched your leg in water.
Don't be a dumb shit and wear it if you're on deep water and there's no solid ground you can swim too anywhere near hand reach.
#12 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
If I was alone, fair enough, but I never do potentially dangerous activities alone. I live on the channel islands, Jersey specifically and the most dangerous sea animal out there is probably a jelly fish. And I'm not talking box jellyfish, I'm talking about the type which hurts less than a bee sting. I'm also aware of the risk I take not wearing a life jacket, and that shit does happen; to me it's just an inconvenience.
#19 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
You still have risk of cramp and shit?

And jersey is south of the English coast, you still get jellyfish there that can cause strong irritating rashes lasting up to 72h, and occasionally box jellyfish and Portuguese man of war are spotted in that sea, and they can do serious damage. You can find conga eels, up to 2ft long that could take your fingers off. Also you have strong currents there and big swell.

If you go into the sea you'll find more than you think.
User avatar #22 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I assume you're 'iidonteven' so just refer to comment #17.

And I never said I underestimated the sea, I completely respect it and am aware of how much power it holds.
#15 - iidonteven has deleted their comment.
User avatar #17 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I've lived on this island for all 16 years of my life, I'm aware there are conga eels, box jelly fish and PMWs. The thing is, PMWs are incredibly easy to spot, box jelly fish are only real dangers when diving, same as PMWs really; and conga eels? Well personally I've never seen one and regardless if I had a life jacket or not I'd be in pretty deep shit.
#21 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
If you're aware why did you say that the only dangerous animal was a jelly with bee sting then?

And if you knew anything you'd know that dangerous jellyfish can shut down your nervous system. Your heart can stop, muscles, breathing, everything. So if that happens without a life jacket you're in deep shit. At least with one you can float and whistle for help.
User avatar #25 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
And regarding the dangerous jellyfish, if all my vital organs stopped I'd be fucked regardless.
#28 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Yeah if your vital organs did, but not if your muscles cramped or you had a heart attack? If you can float and whistle for help, you at least have a chance of survival.
User avatar #30 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
How can I whistle for help if I have a heart attack? I've had leg cramp while swimming and you know what I did? Tread water. I've said this before and I'll say it again, I'm ALWAYS with someone, of which are qualified in beach lifeguarding, same as me. Knowledgeable of how to handle a situation such as this.
User avatar #47 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
That's good for you. Really, I'm glad.

But making him have to haul you out of the water as difficult as possible if someone happens to you is kind of an asshole move if you think about it, isn't it?
User avatar #49 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I don't intentionally put myself in the situation where I'm injured, I put myself in the situation where there is more risk than is necessary. Probably due to carelessness, trying to seem 'cool', I don't know.
User avatar #64 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
This isn't just about you, actually.
In a group and a potentially dangerous situation, you have responsibility to the others.

Dude, I've been inside burning buildings knowing there's a buddy trusting me blindly.
I fuck up, he might die. I'm careless and injure myself and I'm putting the others in danger having to get me out.
Putting up warning signs on the road while the others are there cutting people out of the wrecks isn't glorious work, but if I fuck up I might get all of them killed.
Therefore reflective vest and careful walking instead of running.

Same thing with you. Imagine someone gets hurt because of having to help you.
You don't wanna do that to anyone.
User avatar #66 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
You're clearly more experienced in these situations than I am, which is undeniable. One part of me tells me to keep safe. But the other half wants me to push my boundaries.
User avatar #67 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
" But the other half wants me to push my boundaries."

Fuck that half. It's not worth it if someone else has to pay for it.
User avatar #68 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not must not stay there, you must go beyond them."

- Bruce Lee

Where is the point you should stop pushing your boundaries? If you never did you would be ordinary, not extraordinary. I would not wish for someone to risk themselves to save me due to a mistake I made.
User avatar #73 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
The point is when you affect and endanger others.
Just like Bruce Lee would have never made a lethal blow against a training partner.
That's what Darth Vader would do, if you excuse that fictional example.

"I would not wish for someone to risk themselves to save me due to a mistake I made."
Neither would I. I couldn't live with someone suffering for my mistakes.
But you know what? My buddies could never live with letting anyone behind either, hell, that's why we did what we did in the first place. And I fucking know they wouldn't have hesitated. If I wasn't atheist I'd praise the lord and give thanks push never came to shove.

If you've got a bunch of heartless assholes, then you may be able to pull it off, but don't count on good people being selfish and heartless. Won't work.
#77 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
Ok now we're on a similar page, all this time I thought you were against pushing boundaries. I can stop this rant now.
#33 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Seriously dude? Google shit. Pro swimmers have gone into the sea and drowned because of cramps. Shut up now.
User avatar #24 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I didn't mention them because they were irrelevant to the subject, you clearly don't know the context in which you are talking about. Box jelly fish and PMWs do NOT go where I go tombstoning, they are very far out in the sea.
#29 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
How are some jellyfish relevant and others not? You started by saying that the only danger is the weak jellyfish. It got pointed out that there are more dangerous ones. The subject is life jackets, wear them or not.

It's clear they would help in said situations. You're wrong.

Plus, jellyfish float along the surface. They get carried with winds and currents.
So you're telling me there's never wind coming towards the place where you go tombstoning? Nor currents? Bullshit.

Do you think washed up jellyfish teleport to the beach? No. They get taken there. And with the swells and tides of Jersey, you never can know.


Ps… red thumbs mean stop.
User avatar #32 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
They aren't irrelevant but the unlikelihood of it's happening is so low that there is little need to take so much pre-caution.

Red thumbs mean people disagree with what I'm saying or think it's stupid, not to stop.
#58 - Deathfyre (09/03/2012) [-]
"the unlikelihood of it's happening is so low" Remember kids, just say no to double negatives, then they become triples, and everything's fine
User avatar #14 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Why would you deprive yourself of options when it come to something so crucial as safety?
I don't understand.
#16 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I'm only 16, the stereotype of teenagers thinking they are invincible is pretty concrete. I do these things for fun and life jackets and helmets seem to remove that aspect for me.
User avatar #18 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Are you telling me you willingly embrace your irrationality and needlessly endanger your life for fun?

You are a complete idiot if that is so.
User avatar #20 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
When you take it out of context it sounds idiotic, but take free climbing for example. They aren't idiots, they are fully in control of what they are doing, but accidents happen. It's all for thrills.
User avatar #23 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
It's not even out of context, what are you talking about?
They are idiots as well for needlessly putting themselves in danger.
As are people playing Russian roulette, same principle.

Sorry, but that's kind of a definition.
User avatar #27 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
No, Russian roulette someone is guaranteed to die. It is a different way of life, one you're clearly not used to.

Tell me, what do you do on a daily basis?
#35 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
"what do you do on a daily basis"
u sound like an arrogant twat mate

think your so high and mighty

sit down and shut up
User avatar #37 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
The only information that you know of me is that I prefer not to wear life jackets, so don't hold any prejudice.
User avatar #34 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Freeclimbing someone is guaranteed to die as well.
Gravity is always in effect, grip strength or balance can fail. That's your guarantee right there.

Hell yeah I'm not used to putting myself in danger to no avail. Why the hell would I?
Doesn't mean I have a boring life, if that's what you're playing at.
Years in the firebrigade, military service, now sporadic weightlifting, climbing and archery while I wait for university to start next month.
That's kind of what I do at the moment.

Still, safety is always highest concern. I'd hate to cripple myself or injure others through neglect.
User avatar #36 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
That isn't guarantee, that's a possibility. In russian roulette there is a bullet which WILL kill one or more of the competitors.

I would never even consider free climbing, for the same reason as you, though I love to do lead climbing.
User avatar #39 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
It is a possibility that the individual dies, but the guarantee that someone will fall and die in both. Whether you are killed by the kinetic energy of a metal slug or your own impacting the ground doesn't make a difference.

It's a gamble with death itself, and a completely unnecessary one in both cases.
User avatar #41 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
Both of which I don't do and never will do.
User avatar #43 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Yet you go sea kayaking without a lifevest.
User avatar #46 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I'll let you in on a secret,

That is bullshit, I don't own a sea kayak, it was simply something to enhance the clarity of my opinion. I've only ever rented kayaks in which it is compulsory to wear a life jacket, to which I comply.
User avatar #50 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
That changes nothing if you think about it.
This is a debate about attitude and safety reasoning, not practice.
User avatar #53 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
Ok, let me get this straight. If someone's life was under my responsibility I wouldn't think twice about strapping them up with a helmet, shoes and life jacket before going out. I do not think for a moment that companies such as Jersey Adventures (A local company who takes groups out kayaking and such) is unnecessarily preparing the people who are participating. I completely agree with their methods. If I was in the same situation, I'd take the same pre-cautions. But it's the trust in my friends and myself that stops me from putting all the advised safety gear on. It's the same reason people choose not to wear a seatbelt: Comfort and trust.
#273 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Not to wear seatbelts just because you trust your friend's driving skills is idiotic. No matter how good he would be at driving, there's people in the traffic that aren't so good or just don't care and may hit you. There can always be surprising conditions that you have no control over and wich can injure you or even kill you. This is why safety gear was invented, to prevent injuries from conditions you can't control. Not to use the safety gear is stupid and irresponsible, always. Just because you enjoy the adrenaline rush you get from doing stupid things, doesn't make them right or acceptable, nor does it really make your life any better.
User avatar #65 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
That's complacent, idiotic and completely irresponsible.
You might think it's your personal decision because it's only affecting you, but it isn't because it doesn't.

Don't be the weak link in the chain.
#59 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Oh dear God. Comfort and trust is more important than safety? You are stupider than I first thought. In the same logic, if someone else is driving like a nutter you can crash. It's not always the driver's fault. Same with you. Even if you know what you're doing, you could always misplace your foot when you jump and land on rocks and die.

And if you were really their friend you would wear a lifejacket. It makes it much easier to save you, and imagine how they'd feel if you died because of your stupidity and ignorance?
User avatar #61 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
If you read the whole message you'd realise I think safety is more important than comfort and trust, and you think I'm ignorant.
#38 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Mathematically, you're wrong. Sorry.

With Russian Roulette, you can't say someone WILL die. It's wrong. Yes, if you had an infinite amount of time, someone would, but not in reality. There is a 1/6 probability that somone will die first time. A 1/6 the next game too. So there's a 1/36 someone will die in the first two rounds. And a 1/216 by round 3. Mathematically the chances will increase every time, but nobody HAS TO die.

Same in anything you say you're doing. Chances may be incredible low that you may get stung by a box jellyfish, but there's always a chance, and you can't say there isn't.

Also just to throw in, I completely disagree with everything you're saying. Little kids like you that think they know everything piss me off.
User avatar #42 - techketzer (09/03/2012) [-]
Hate to attack your argument, but you're wrong.
The revolvers cylinder is only spun once, meaning the maximum number of possible turns is 6.
Russian roulette ends with a corpse. Always.
User avatar #40 - lcarnage (09/03/2012) [-]
I never said I know everything. I worded one of my comments badly which made it seem like I think I'm invincible, which is highly false. I am aware that there is always the CHANCE of something going wrong, but I can't put it into words why I choose to do these things.
#44 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
That's not why everyone hates you. You didn't word anything badly, you're stupid, you think you know everything (eg trying to disprove everyone with flawed arguments) and you were wrong about that jellyfish thing that the other guy corrected you on.
#107 - That is the only way the pony love/hate ********* will … 09/03/2012 on Well? +1
#16 - That does not apply to guys...The metaphor of the 'Goalie' app…  [+] (4 new replies) 09/02/2012 on Scumbag Dream +4
#197 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Just because Ginny's riding that broom doesn't mean you can't cast "Accio!"
#17 - gdeadpoolmod has deleted their comment.
#225 - anonymous (09/03/2012) [-]
Yeah it's cool and edgy to post it on Facebook to show all of your friends, but it is a major dick move to steal someone's other half, and it's even worse to be the one that they cheat with.

Not cool, if they're in a relationship, you stay the fuck away.
#244 - gdeadpoolmod has deleted their comment.
#3 - They aren't shaking hands correctly. 09/02/2012 on washing hands +1
#268 - Way to start a console war.  [+] (1 new reply) 08/30/2012 on WTF.. 0
#272 - troflmao (08/30/2012) [-]
only the dead will know peace from this huehuehue
#220 - I went there last summer, it was incredible. Did white water r… 08/30/2012 on Mind=Blown +3
#492 - **lcarnage rolled a random image posted in comment #160363 … 08/30/2012 on Eveyones getting banned -1
#330 - I really don't understand all the hate, so what, you get banne… 08/30/2012 on HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA... +2
#20 - The images that were flashing through his head. 08/29/2012 on Post war Pat anyone? +19
#47 - This is one of the few reposts that gets me every time.  [+] (1 new reply) 08/29/2012 on Friendship +13
#50 - doriangrey (08/29/2012) [-]
#27 - I do not have 4 heads. 08/29/2012 on Stop looking at yourself 0
#60 - Just a better .gif for you. 08/29/2012 on why im single +2
#123 - When I said an abnormality, I meant in the view of western soc…  [+] (1 new reply) 08/29/2012 on double standards -1
#124 - shazzshabam (08/29/2012) [-]
I know, I know. I didn't mean you specifically.

items

Total unique items point value: 1050 / Total items point value: 1450
What do you think? Give us your opinion. Anonymous comments allowed.
#3 - norwegianlolz has deleted their comment [-]
#2 - robincassidy (05/29/2012) [-]
Dirty hoe.
 Friends (0)