Because gender dysphoria is essentially a state of depression over being trans, and it is not a requirement of being trans because a lot of people aren't dysphoric over it so therefore being trans is not inherently an illness, it's just rather common for it to cause one

Thanks, I actually had trouble with that word. I don't use it often, so I didn't know the plural. I almost said Crisi! That would have been worse, I think. Lol.

I think that we're both trying to say the same thing here, I'm not sure. I think that those who are happily living as another gender, or being homosexual, doesn't fall into a category of mental illness, or serious mental illness at least. I think that those who are suffering while trying to find themselves have a degree of mental illness.

Wanting to hack your own genitals off is not a disorder?
Come on now.

You know how dictionaries now define "literally" as "figuratively" now? Same thing. Mental illness is just a layman term, just as how theory doesn't mean the same in different contexts. Not the point though...

"depression is always a common psychological condition within those with sexual identity crisises" (by the way the plural for crisis is crises, not trying to be a jerk, legitimately I want you to know for future occurences) This is a bit difficult to interpret, many might say the depression is a cause of the stigma some groups cough cough fj cough cough have against these people and not a direct causation of the desire to be another gender. not the point tho..

My point is, by itself, the incongruency between the desired gender and the natal sex is not a disorder. In the same manner alcohol is not a disorder, UNLESS they impair your life in a very big way.

Thanks, I actually had trouble with that word. I don't use it often, so I didn't know the plural. I almost said Crisi! That would have been worse, I think. Lol.

I think that we're both trying to say the same thing here, I'm not sure. I think that those who are happily living as another gender, or being homosexual, doesn't fall into a category of mental illness, or serious mental illness at least. I think that those who are suffering while trying to find themselves have a degree of mental illness.

That's the key clarification and why gender dysphoria is an illness but being trans in itself is not, Which is a short summary of what it says in the dsm on the matter

Gender dysphoria (as a phenomenon not a disorder proper) is most often than not an underlying cause of being a transvestite. How, according to you, the former is an illness but the latter is not, I do not know. I am not saying both are or not, I am just questioning your logic.

Because gender dysphoria is essentially a state of depression over being trans, and it is not a requirement of being trans because a lot of people aren't dysphoric over it so therefore being trans is not inherently an illness, it's just rather common for it to cause one

I also said that these mental illnesses or psychological disorders, of this nature, can generally be treated easily. Sure, he wants to be a woman. Okay, make him a woman. He was born a man, but he wants to take on the gender roles of a woman. That's fine. Let him. He'll be happy, and we'll tolerate it and be happy for him.

Those with mental illnesses that go beyond an identity crisis, generally cannot function in normal society without forcing said society to change into a mold around their identity.

For example, those sorts of people who are transgender, but also wants to be referred to as 'xir' or 'xhe', or any other ridiculous pronouns, have a far more severe mental illness than those who are confused about their sexuality or identity.

I know you're probably angry with me by referring to transexuals or transgender people as having a mental illness, but having paranoia is also a mental illness. Depression is a mental illness. Being shy would be considered a mental illness.

It's not bad to have mental illnesses, as it just means that your social interaction is impacted. Everyone has one. Having an identity crisis is also a mental illness.

However, if that person figures himself / herself out and eventually leads on to having a healthy life doing whatever they decided to do, that mental illness wouldn't mean a thing.

Look. I am a Psychology student, Senior as you would say in some places. It bothers me your misinterpretation of what mental illness is. The actual term is psychiatric (or psychological) disorder. All disorders (I think, don't know them all to the dot) need a clinically significant impairment to be considered disorders. If there is no impairment, there is no disorder. Some are disorders for the sake of legality, others for the sake of order and category, and others have an actual medical analogous (Alzheimer and the like).

Wanting to hack your own genitals off is not a disorder?
Come on now.

You know how dictionaries now define "literally" as "figuratively" now? Same thing. Mental illness is just a layman term, just as how theory doesn't mean the same in different contexts. Not the point though...

"depression is always a common psychological condition within those with sexual identity crisises" (by the way the plural for crisis is crises, not trying to be a jerk, legitimately I want you to know for future occurences) This is a bit difficult to interpret, many might say the depression is a cause of the stigma some groups cough cough fj cough cough have against these people and not a direct causation of the desire to be another gender. not the point tho..

My point is, by itself, the incongruency between the desired gender and the natal sex is not a disorder. In the same manner alcohol is not a disorder, UNLESS they impair your life in a very big way.

Thanks, I actually had trouble with that word. I don't use it often, so I didn't know the plural. I almost said Crisi! That would have been worse, I think. Lol.

I think that we're both trying to say the same thing here, I'm not sure. I think that those who are happily living as another gender, or being homosexual, doesn't fall into a category of mental illness, or serious mental illness at least. I think that those who are suffering while trying to find themselves have a degree of mental illness.

My statement applies. As of DSM-5 (the legal compendium of psychological disorders by the American Psychiatric Association, 2013) there exists two Criteria for Gender Dysphoria in Adolescents and Adults. Criteria B specifically says: " The condition is associated with clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational or other important areas of functioning." This means, you can have incongruence between gender and sex, and not have a disorder.

Thank you sir

Do people I may start to like die?

One person that you wish would die just keeps on living. It's annoying as shit but I'm gonna be so happy when that person bites it.

There might be one in all 3 seasons but nothing too bad. First two seasons are on Netflix.

Thank you sir