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|#10 - Of course you should be able to refuse service to anyone is yo… [+] (22 new replies)||02/25/2014 on Fuck America (Parts of it)||0|
#83 - tkfourtwoone (02/25/2014) [-]
You should be able to refuse services as long as 1) that customer can't afford them and 2) they're bringing REAL prejudice ("being offended" is NOT a prejudice) to your enterprise.
Such as stinking up the place, being obnoxiously loud, disturbing other customers, etc.
#160 - moocowsz (02/25/2014) [-]
I don't think you understand what the term "Private Property" means.
The government cannot intervene any non-law breaking incidents, and neither can your bandwagoning, one-track mind.
Someone who owns full rights to a piece of land can prohibit or allow any person in particular from their establishment for any reason they god damn please, and they don't even need to provide a reason why. Just because you are a prejudiced hypocrite against prejudice people, does not mean you have more rights than them.
#1033 - guymandude (02/26/2014) [-]
...what? I'm really not sure what you were trying to get across with that.
If you're saying my assumption that you haven't read the Constitution is incorrect, then I apologize - it's just that I assume that people who have read the Constitution & the Amendments knows what's in those documents.
and no, it's not "so wrong because I said so." It's "so wrong" according to - say it with me now, don't be shy - the Constitution.
#1035 - moocowsz (02/26/2014) [-]
You've basically just provided false accusations and baseless, incorrect, conjectures.
The constitution exists to set up a foundation, legality and nationwide - statewise laws are built upon that infrastructure.
The reason why a LAW was passed in arizona for the freedom to deny service in a private corporation to homosexuals is because there have most likely been countless outbursts from whiny liberals complaining about personalities and life choices override the actions and power a person has to control who sets foot in their property.
Even if it was a government complex, the law that was passed is to ensure people understand that biased people have the option to be biased, whether or not they are aware of the reprocussions that may come from it.
The constitution is neither against nor for the treatment of a person based on their personality or lifestyle, but it does enforce the right for someone to stand by their opinions, be it homosexual or homophobic.
#1037 - guymandude (02/26/2014) [-]
listen man, I get where you are coming from =. I am not a big fan of all the new sexualities and gender identities and all that crap. I think it's a little far-fetched, to say the least. And yes, people can be biased if they want to. And they can especially control who sets foot on their property - when their property is their HOME. And that is what I'm getting at.
I'm not trying to argue with you. I don't have anything to debate. I'm just trying to tell you that in the Amendments to the US Constitution, owning a business and then not allowing a specific group of people access that business purely because they belong to said group of people is,_ LITERALLY_, defined as against the Federal Law of these United States.
the laws for owning a business and for owning a home are drastically different, despite both being the owner's "property." It's not an opinion I have, and its not part of any liberal agenda. That's just how it already is.
This law in Arizona - its gonna get shot down by the Supreme Court (assuming people care enough for it to get that far - so it might). Maybe the law does all the things you said, and all it does is help teach people a lesson which is a weird thing to say, but I get where you're coming from . But it's going to get shot down because it goes directly in the face of Federal Law - and of course, Federal Law is law that must be followed by all citizens of every state, and trumps state laws. side note: this is why, theoretically, a federal officer could go to Colorado at anytime and arrest a guy for smoking pot. Even though Colorado has legalized pot, Federal Law still classifies it as illegal, so they can still arrest that guy. So, why hasn't this happened yet? Because federal officers deal with much more serious shit all the time and don't really care enough to go out of their way to do something like that.
#107 - 2scared2login (02/25/2014) [-]
You should be able to (and are able to, thanks to the constitution) deny anyone service in an establishment you run on property you privately own. Most businesses choose to be "equal opportunity" so to speak, this is merely in the pursuit of profit. There is no law in place requiring equality in terms of service, excluding government run establishments.
#110 - tkfourtwoone (02/25/2014) [-]
"You should be able to (and are able to, thanks to the constitution)"
I seriously doubt your Constitution says this, since your Constitutions clearly states "ALL MEN ARE EQUAL".
That means that gays, lesbians, blacks, asians, etc. ALL have the right to make use of your services.
And you have NO right to discriminate your customers.
#112 - 2scared2login (02/25/2014) [-]
You're fucking retarded. THE GOVERNMENT IS FORCED TO RECOGNIZE ALL MEN AS EQUALS. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT PRIVATELY OWNED ESTABLISHMENTS MUST FOLLOW THE SAME RESTRICTIONS. IF A BUSINESS WANTED TO REFUSE SERVICE TO AFRICAN AMERICANS THEY WOULD HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO SO, SO LONG AS THEY HAD NO GOVERNMENTAL AFFILIATION.
Arguing with liberals is like trying to tear down a brick wall by smashing your head up against it repeatedly, you are stupid beyond belief.
#1036 - guymandude (02/26/2014) [-]
actually, that's incorrect. I don't know where this whole "only government affiliated establishments" idea came from, but it's not true. A lot of people in this thread need to study up on the Federal Laws.
although I do understand your frustration - the guy you are arguing with is pretty bad at it. It never should have gone on this long. The fact of the matter is, no, a business absolutely cannot decide suddenly that it wants to exclude an entire population of people specifically because those people are part of said population, privately owned or otherwise.
#125 - tkfourtwoone (02/25/2014) [-]
"IF A BUSINESS WANTED TO REFUSE SERVICE TO AFRICAN AMERICANS THEY WOULD HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO SO"
And the state would have every right to throw your racist ass in prison for doing that.
And I would also completely have the right to beat the living shit out of you, if I was black!
GOD JESUS TITTY FUCKING DAMMIT!
HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU BE SO FUCKING RETARDED TO CLAIM THAT?!?
NO ONE HAS ANY RIGHT TO REFUSE BLACKS! THIS RETARDED SHIT ENDED OVER 60 YEARS AGO, YOU DUMB FUCK!
"Arguing with retarded inbred rednecks is like trying to tear down a brick wall by smashing your head up against it repeatedly, you are stupid beyond belief"
#124 - tkfourtwoone (02/25/2014) [-]
"You're fucking retarded. THE GOVERNMENT IS FORCED TO RECOGNIZE ALL MEN AS EQUALS. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT PRIVATELY OWNED ESTABLISHMENTS MUST FOLLOW THE SAME RESTRICTIONS"
Yes they fucking DO!
Your fucking joint is NOT ABOVE THE CONSTITUTION, YOU FUCKING REDNECK INBRED IDIOT!
#114 - 2scared2login (02/25/2014) [-]
What's that, no response? Yeah, I figured, you fâggots clam up quickly when confronted with logic. Take your emotional appeals back to tumblr you raging quèèr.
#243 - 2scared2login (02/25/2014) [-]
Please just shut up, right or wrong you are making people who fight for gay right look like drooling, loud mouthed retards... Please just stop.
#357 - 2scared2login (02/25/2014) [-]
Well, personally I think you should have the right to refuse a person for any reason.
#366 - tkfourtwoone (02/25/2014) [-]
No you fucking shouldn't.
And you really are a sad case if you actually believe that.
Just imagine this: you, dressed up in fancy city clothes, in your fancy SUV, end up driving (in a road trip) in a remote, backwater, redneck-filled country town.
Where every business owner there will refuse to serve you (possibly even threaten you with a gun to get out) because "you look like a queer"
...am I putting things into perspective here?!? Do you really think those theoretical fucking rednecks should have the right to manifest their frustrations on customers?!?
#379 - 2scared2login (02/25/2014) [-]
Well, sure, but see they're running a business. And, believe it or not, but those stereotypes are very rarely perfected like that. If the owner threatened someone with a gun, then of course that is already illegal.
The right way to do it is to politely ask them to leave.
This is the real world, while people like that do exist, they will not make it very far at all in the business world. For every business that refuses service to a group, there are a hundred others in just a couple miles radius that won't. Businesses will overtake theirs, and they will die out.
And, if you are asked to leave, why bother wasting your time there? Go somewhere where people won't sit there and flash hateful glances at you, bridling with their own stupidity and pointless hate to you.
#402 - 2scared2login (02/25/2014) [-]
No, I do not believe those statistics are really accurate.
For every 100 people who is sympathetic, there might be one or two bigots. A while back, when I was a child, my family were all eating at a Waffle House in the back country, as that was where we lived...East Texas, I can still hear the banjos in my memories
Now there was a single black family there, and the waitress asked them to leave and told them they will not be serviced. They left. But along with them went the entire restaurant but two old men, who were asleep.
Times will always change, and homosexuality is rapidly becoming more acceptable. If a business refuses service to homosexuals, then they'd better damn well hope that their town has enough people who will put up with that. People like you described are far less in number than you think, but they sure are loud. It's a stereotype for a reason, but they're an endangered species, even here.
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