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#72 - Holy **** , that was actually pretty cash of Draim… 12/09/2014 on David Draiman supports GG 0
#112 - And I bet you brought a bag pack which weighted in at about 20…  [+] (2 new replies) 12/09/2014 on alien landscapes 0
User avatar #170 - thrashmash (12/10/2014) [-]
Nope, just the necessary items (like a tent, two sets of underwear, food, ...)
#165 - anonymous (12/10/2014) [-]
Actually, at times all I had were the clothes and shoes I had on, at other times a bicycle.
#2 - Yeah. Not even remotely the right places. But places... 12/08/2014 on the best college essay 0
#51 - You unsaintly swine! Why would you do such a horrible thi… 12/08/2014 on Scandinavia and the world +1
#2247 - These are a constant reminder, that I have literally no resent… 12/08/2014 on we are all brothers on FJ 0
#55 - Think I started masturbating around 11 or 12. Didn't have… 12/08/2014 on Sex talk +1
#150 - I never quite understood this theory of "lets make it pub… 12/08/2014 on Next level trolling 0
#11 - Dont worry about it. I moved out right after the summer holida… 12/07/2014 on Being an adult sucome 0
#131 - Like a dimension of pleasure? 12/07/2014 on How to make a Fleshlight +1
#129 - Have you tried that? Can it be recommended?  [+] (4 new replies) 12/07/2014 on How to make a Fleshlight 0
User avatar #149 - newepic (12/07/2014) [-]
felt horrible when i did it
#136 - anonymous (12/07/2014) [-]
You can try, it is good, but the borders of the glove eventually breaks. Also you gotta use some tape so the parts stay together.
User avatar #130 - dilara (12/07/2014) [-]
No it will swallow your dick into a new dimension
#131 - krobeles (12/07/2014) [-]
Like a dimension of pleasure?
#128 - I tried this. It felt wierd and fell apart as I finnished. Can… 12/07/2014 on How to make a Fleshlight 0
#96 - I commited my first act of sexual agression. So I got tha… 12/07/2014 on Nothing 0
#65 - Eh. I'm sure I really buy into that. I've never known anyone w…  [+] (1 new reply) 12/07/2014 on Finals 0
#66 - tbeaz (12/07/2014) [-]
I guess maybe it's hard to tell. I know a lot of people who have committed suicide or people who know people who have. So I don't know if you're out of the average or I am or maybe we both are.
#63 - What? Is suicide mundane? What kind of dystopian nightmare do …  [+] (3 new replies) 12/07/2014 on Finals 0
#64 - tbeaz (12/07/2014) [-]
Sorry no it's not mundane. But it is sadly common.
User avatar #65 - krobeles (12/07/2014) [-]
Eh. I'm sure I really buy into that. I've never known anyone who comitted suicide, and I only know one person who have known somebody who did commit suicide, and the person who comitted suicide did so because he had uncureable migraine spikes which were described as "Feeling like somebody is pushing out your eye ball from the inside out".
So I'm not really sure if I buy into this entire "suicide is common" philosophy.
#66 - tbeaz (12/07/2014) [-]
I guess maybe it's hard to tell. I know a lot of people who have committed suicide or people who know people who have. So I don't know if you're out of the average or I am or maybe we both are.
#60 - >Implying this story is even remotely true  [+] (6 new replies) 12/07/2014 on Finals +1
#61 - tbeaz (12/07/2014) [-]
That was an incredibly mundane story.

I didn't walk on the moon or get a GF

I got a fucking haircut.
User avatar #63 - krobeles (12/07/2014) [-]
What? Is suicide mundane? What kind of dystopian nightmare do you live in..?
#64 - tbeaz (12/07/2014) [-]
Sorry no it's not mundane. But it is sadly common.
User avatar #65 - krobeles (12/07/2014) [-]
Eh. I'm sure I really buy into that. I've never known anyone who comitted suicide, and I only know one person who have known somebody who did commit suicide, and the person who comitted suicide did so because he had uncureable migraine spikes which were described as "Feeling like somebody is pushing out your eye ball from the inside out".
So I'm not really sure if I buy into this entire "suicide is common" philosophy.
#66 - tbeaz (12/07/2014) [-]
I guess maybe it's hard to tell. I know a lot of people who have committed suicide or people who know people who have. So I don't know if you're out of the average or I am or maybe we both are.
#62 - tbeaz (12/07/2014) [-]
oh my god I replied to the wrong comment I thought this was another thread, sorry

I'm guessing you are talking about the OP? It's not that unbelievable, at least there's certainly much less believable out there.

Fuck yeah Davos also.
#81 - Picture 12/04/2014 on i'll risk it -1
#206 - ">academic feminism actually makes some valid claims. …  [+] (3 new replies) 12/04/2014 on My mother is a hooker 0
User avatar #210 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
Also you couldn't name one author who didn't have a background in humanities.


So yeah, while you respect me, I sure as fuck don't respect you anymore. You entered this conversation to talk to yourself about how great you think you are, not to talk to me. Fuck you.
User avatar #209 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
All types are courtesy of autocorrelation. Praise be my phone.
User avatar #208 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
Darling, this ended when you claimed that a degree in humanities is literally 4 years of masturbation and nothing else.

I love how you think it's completely reasonable to assume that all strippers must have Shitty degrees of they get one, but when I say that academic feminism makes some valid points WHOAH HOLD THE FUCK UP BUDDY, BETTER COOL YOUR JETS. THAT CRAZY TALK.

You are by far the least scientific science major I've ever had the displeasure of talking to. Have fun circle jetting with your fellow condescending socially awkward physicists because even I as a fellow science major cannot stomach your conversation.

Try being less of a judgmental price, people may like you more.
#204 - I agree. Not a terribly good assumption to make. Good thing th…  [+] (5 new replies) 12/04/2014 on My mother is a hooker 0
User avatar #205 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
Then what is the criteria that we're using for making assumptions beyond your incredible bias?

Name an author who doesn't have a background in humanities. I'd say almost all of them do, and the few that don't are writing biographies for themselves or novelization of their research which can hardly be considered high caliber writing.

If the reason why I cannot understand what you're saying is because you had awful grammar, then yes, it is illiteracy.

Have you ever read 1984? Language is what constructs society. The more complex our language becomes, the more we are able to describe and the more specialized terminology we can create in order to more effectively transfer our thoughts to one another. I know this is hard for you as a physics major, seeing as you use basic universal terms when describing physical concepts, but you can understand on a holistic level how vocabulary influences the fluency within which one is capable of conveying one's thoughts, yes?

>You continue to claim baselessly that people with degrees in the humanities learn nothing. Christ man, you think they spend 4 years jacking off? Edit: Just read your last line. Apparently you do. Christ almighty you know absolutely nothing about the department of humanities. Please stop talking.
>academic feminism actually makes some valid claims.
>Feminists are not representative of the entire Department of Humanities
>you're assuming humanities students are EXCEPTIONALLY aware of their lack of employability post graduation. Trust me, scientific pedants like you tell them often enough.
>In my country it is eat what you kill. You pay your way for university or pray for a scholarship.
User avatar #206 - krobeles (12/04/2014) [-]
">academic feminism actually makes some valid claims. "

...And thats when this debate ended. I've been feeling like we've been going in circles from the get-go, and that remark was the drop that made me realize you are not a person I wish to understand, nor a person whom I have the abillity to understand. You dont seem like a total jackass nor a retard, so this isn't a "You're an asshole, fuck you!" kind of thing. Just that I've wasted too much time debating these things allready with various different people, without reaching even the vaguest hint of an agreement.
User avatar #210 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
Also you couldn't name one author who didn't have a background in humanities.


So yeah, while you respect me, I sure as fuck don't respect you anymore. You entered this conversation to talk to yourself about how great you think you are, not to talk to me. Fuck you.
User avatar #209 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
All types are courtesy of autocorrelation. Praise be my phone.
User avatar #208 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
Darling, this ended when you claimed that a degree in humanities is literally 4 years of masturbation and nothing else.

I love how you think it's completely reasonable to assume that all strippers must have Shitty degrees of they get one, but when I say that academic feminism makes some valid points WHOAH HOLD THE FUCK UP BUDDY, BETTER COOL YOUR JETS. THAT CRAZY TALK.

You are by far the least scientific science major I've ever had the displeasure of talking to. Have fun circle jetting with your fellow condescending socially awkward physicists because even I as a fellow science major cannot stomach your conversation.

Try being less of a judgmental price, people may like you more.
#202 - I dont think its unreasonable to assume something of a person,…  [+] (7 new replies) 12/04/2014 on My mother is a hooker 0
User avatar #203 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
You're literally assuming that a stripper is going to have a useless major based on nothing other than the fact that she is a stripper. It's a poor basis for assumption... Seriously, for such a lover of science you're not being very scientific about your reasoning here. One piece of subjective evidence does not make a valid set of observations.

Creative writing... Don't you read books? Someone has to write that shit, eh.

Your comment about scientific philosophy proves my statement about how "we aren't robots and thinking differently is an interesting exercise".

how do you define "smart" and "useful"? Apparently by your definition writers are useless because TECHNICALLY society can function without any good writing. But christ almighty, who would want to live in that society?

Your entire last paragraph was illiterate. Another wonderful thing about the humanities. They're exceptional at communicating ideas. Society is constructed upon the words we use to express our ideas.

Also, good job ignoring all of the practical humanities courses that I brought up ASIDE from creative writing. Also, Linguistics in certain areas is essentially a science.

Though I half agree with you. Sciences are much harder than humanities to do. If you are capable of science you could argue that you're more useful to society. However, to claim those with humanities degrees are no better and sometimes even worse than highschool graduates is a ridiculous claim.
User avatar #204 - krobeles (12/04/2014) [-]
I agree. Not a terribly good assumption to make. Good thing this isn't a scientific field we're debating, which lowers the criteria for acceptable assumptions dramatically.

I like reading. I also like writing. I also understand that you dont need formal training beyond a very basic level to write interesting things. Its one of those things which formal training can teach you very little or nothing at all about. You need hands-experience to be a good writer, and you can get that without a needless elaborate education on the topic.

Just because you have difficulty understanding what I write, doesn't make it "illiterate". I also dont agree with your entire "Society is constructed upon the words we use to express our ideas". Thats like saying we can change society by useing different words, which any idiot can see the fault in.
I didn't ignore them. I just agreed that those were somewhat usefull, and therefor didn't feel the need to waste space and time by typing "I agree with this".

Its a ridiculous thing you say? Alright.
Explain to me how all those idiots with humanitarian degrees, who have the intellectual arrogance of an academic - but without the education of one - aren't worse than a highschooler who atleast understands that they aren't very educated. The highschooler has room for improvement, since he/she acknowledges that they still lack education.
Explain to me how all those feminazi cunts who have taken some botched humanitarian degree and therefor feel like they're in a unique position to critize society and everyone in it, aren't a bad thing.
Explain to me how lying to the students, deceiving them into believing they'll be able to get a job when they're done, aren't a bad thing.
And the best part? In my country, we recieve government funding to study. So each month, these useless cunts recieve a hefty sum of money to persue what essentially amounts to mental masturbation. Explain how those aren't problems to you.
User avatar #205 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
Then what is the criteria that we're using for making assumptions beyond your incredible bias?

Name an author who doesn't have a background in humanities. I'd say almost all of them do, and the few that don't are writing biographies for themselves or novelization of their research which can hardly be considered high caliber writing.

If the reason why I cannot understand what you're saying is because you had awful grammar, then yes, it is illiteracy.

Have you ever read 1984? Language is what constructs society. The more complex our language becomes, the more we are able to describe and the more specialized terminology we can create in order to more effectively transfer our thoughts to one another. I know this is hard for you as a physics major, seeing as you use basic universal terms when describing physical concepts, but you can understand on a holistic level how vocabulary influences the fluency within which one is capable of conveying one's thoughts, yes?

>You continue to claim baselessly that people with degrees in the humanities learn nothing. Christ man, you think they spend 4 years jacking off? Edit: Just read your last line. Apparently you do. Christ almighty you know absolutely nothing about the department of humanities. Please stop talking.
>academic feminism actually makes some valid claims.
>Feminists are not representative of the entire Department of Humanities
>you're assuming humanities students are EXCEPTIONALLY aware of their lack of employability post graduation. Trust me, scientific pedants like you tell them often enough.
>In my country it is eat what you kill. You pay your way for university or pray for a scholarship.
User avatar #206 - krobeles (12/04/2014) [-]
">academic feminism actually makes some valid claims. "

...And thats when this debate ended. I've been feeling like we've been going in circles from the get-go, and that remark was the drop that made me realize you are not a person I wish to understand, nor a person whom I have the abillity to understand. You dont seem like a total jackass nor a retard, so this isn't a "You're an asshole, fuck you!" kind of thing. Just that I've wasted too much time debating these things allready with various different people, without reaching even the vaguest hint of an agreement.
User avatar #210 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
Also you couldn't name one author who didn't have a background in humanities.


So yeah, while you respect me, I sure as fuck don't respect you anymore. You entered this conversation to talk to yourself about how great you think you are, not to talk to me. Fuck you.
User avatar #209 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
All types are courtesy of autocorrelation. Praise be my phone.
User avatar #208 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
Darling, this ended when you claimed that a degree in humanities is literally 4 years of masturbation and nothing else.

I love how you think it's completely reasonable to assume that all strippers must have Shitty degrees of they get one, but when I say that academic feminism makes some valid points WHOAH HOLD THE FUCK UP BUDDY, BETTER COOL YOUR JETS. THAT CRAZY TALK.

You are by far the least scientific science major I've ever had the displeasure of talking to. Have fun circle jetting with your fellow condescending socially awkward physicists because even I as a fellow science major cannot stomach your conversation.

Try being less of a judgmental price, people may like you more.
#200 - Sure, its not a terribly good assumption, but I still think it…  [+] (9 new replies) 12/04/2014 on My mother is a hooker -1
User avatar #201 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
I dunno... I don't really make assumptions with this little evidence. Also, I resent your denigration of humanities. There are some decent humanities majors for learning useful skills or doing essential services like sociology, linguistics, history, political science and creative writing. Everything else makes decent minor material. Humanities kinda help to enrich our thought even if they aren't immediately practical on their own.

I'm a Neuroscience Major/History Minor. I've also taken a philosophy course when I can. We aren't robots. Thinking about things differently is an interesting exercise, eh? I certainly wouldn't say humanities degrees are no better than a highschool diploma. No more employable, yes, but certainly better.
User avatar #202 - krobeles (12/04/2014) [-]
I dont think its unreasonable to assume something of a person, if you think its the more likely thing.
Creative writing? How is that useful? I may have a misunderstanding of precisely what that subject entails, but it sounds bloody useless. Yes, the Humanities can be somewhat interesting, but its a bloody waste of everyones time to teach them in universities (not all of them mind you, just most). We have something called Scientific Philosophy right now, which is a mandatory course in my physics degree, and it annoys the shit out of me. Not because its not interesting, it is, but because I know I'll ultimately come away from the subject with no usefull skills I didn't have going into it.

Atleast I am smart enough to understand that that humanitarian subject wont make any smarter or usefull. Some of the people who study the Humanities aren't as clever, and I have an on-going debate with a friend who has got it into her head that her humanitarian subject is a science. Its troubeling when a humanitarian sincerely believes that his/her subject is as usefull and legit as a science. Interesting, sure. Often more so than the scientific subject. Usefull? Not often.
User avatar #203 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
You're literally assuming that a stripper is going to have a useless major based on nothing other than the fact that she is a stripper. It's a poor basis for assumption... Seriously, for such a lover of science you're not being very scientific about your reasoning here. One piece of subjective evidence does not make a valid set of observations.

Creative writing... Don't you read books? Someone has to write that shit, eh.

Your comment about scientific philosophy proves my statement about how "we aren't robots and thinking differently is an interesting exercise".

how do you define "smart" and "useful"? Apparently by your definition writers are useless because TECHNICALLY society can function without any good writing. But christ almighty, who would want to live in that society?

Your entire last paragraph was illiterate. Another wonderful thing about the humanities. They're exceptional at communicating ideas. Society is constructed upon the words we use to express our ideas.

Also, good job ignoring all of the practical humanities courses that I brought up ASIDE from creative writing. Also, Linguistics in certain areas is essentially a science.

Though I half agree with you. Sciences are much harder than humanities to do. If you are capable of science you could argue that you're more useful to society. However, to claim those with humanities degrees are no better and sometimes even worse than highschool graduates is a ridiculous claim.
User avatar #204 - krobeles (12/04/2014) [-]
I agree. Not a terribly good assumption to make. Good thing this isn't a scientific field we're debating, which lowers the criteria for acceptable assumptions dramatically.

I like reading. I also like writing. I also understand that you dont need formal training beyond a very basic level to write interesting things. Its one of those things which formal training can teach you very little or nothing at all about. You need hands-experience to be a good writer, and you can get that without a needless elaborate education on the topic.

Just because you have difficulty understanding what I write, doesn't make it "illiterate". I also dont agree with your entire "Society is constructed upon the words we use to express our ideas". Thats like saying we can change society by useing different words, which any idiot can see the fault in.
I didn't ignore them. I just agreed that those were somewhat usefull, and therefor didn't feel the need to waste space and time by typing "I agree with this".

Its a ridiculous thing you say? Alright.
Explain to me how all those idiots with humanitarian degrees, who have the intellectual arrogance of an academic - but without the education of one - aren't worse than a highschooler who atleast understands that they aren't very educated. The highschooler has room for improvement, since he/she acknowledges that they still lack education.
Explain to me how all those feminazi cunts who have taken some botched humanitarian degree and therefor feel like they're in a unique position to critize society and everyone in it, aren't a bad thing.
Explain to me how lying to the students, deceiving them into believing they'll be able to get a job when they're done, aren't a bad thing.
And the best part? In my country, we recieve government funding to study. So each month, these useless cunts recieve a hefty sum of money to persue what essentially amounts to mental masturbation. Explain how those aren't problems to you.
User avatar #205 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
Then what is the criteria that we're using for making assumptions beyond your incredible bias?

Name an author who doesn't have a background in humanities. I'd say almost all of them do, and the few that don't are writing biographies for themselves or novelization of their research which can hardly be considered high caliber writing.

If the reason why I cannot understand what you're saying is because you had awful grammar, then yes, it is illiteracy.

Have you ever read 1984? Language is what constructs society. The more complex our language becomes, the more we are able to describe and the more specialized terminology we can create in order to more effectively transfer our thoughts to one another. I know this is hard for you as a physics major, seeing as you use basic universal terms when describing physical concepts, but you can understand on a holistic level how vocabulary influences the fluency within which one is capable of conveying one's thoughts, yes?

>You continue to claim baselessly that people with degrees in the humanities learn nothing. Christ man, you think they spend 4 years jacking off? Edit: Just read your last line. Apparently you do. Christ almighty you know absolutely nothing about the department of humanities. Please stop talking.
>academic feminism actually makes some valid claims.
>Feminists are not representative of the entire Department of Humanities
>you're assuming humanities students are EXCEPTIONALLY aware of their lack of employability post graduation. Trust me, scientific pedants like you tell them often enough.
>In my country it is eat what you kill. You pay your way for university or pray for a scholarship.
User avatar #206 - krobeles (12/04/2014) [-]
">academic feminism actually makes some valid claims. "

...And thats when this debate ended. I've been feeling like we've been going in circles from the get-go, and that remark was the drop that made me realize you are not a person I wish to understand, nor a person whom I have the abillity to understand. You dont seem like a total jackass nor a retard, so this isn't a "You're an asshole, fuck you!" kind of thing. Just that I've wasted too much time debating these things allready with various different people, without reaching even the vaguest hint of an agreement.
User avatar #210 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
Also you couldn't name one author who didn't have a background in humanities.


So yeah, while you respect me, I sure as fuck don't respect you anymore. You entered this conversation to talk to yourself about how great you think you are, not to talk to me. Fuck you.
User avatar #209 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
All types are courtesy of autocorrelation. Praise be my phone.
User avatar #208 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
Darling, this ended when you claimed that a degree in humanities is literally 4 years of masturbation and nothing else.

I love how you think it's completely reasonable to assume that all strippers must have Shitty degrees of they get one, but when I say that academic feminism makes some valid points WHOAH HOLD THE FUCK UP BUDDY, BETTER COOL YOUR JETS. THAT CRAZY TALK.

You are by far the least scientific science major I've ever had the displeasure of talking to. Have fun circle jetting with your fellow condescending socially awkward physicists because even I as a fellow science major cannot stomach your conversation.

Try being less of a judgmental price, people may like you more.
#198 - And you propose that its more likely for a stripper to have a …  [+] (11 new replies) 12/04/2014 on My mother is a hooker 0
User avatar #199 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
I propose no assumptions can really be made.

I know a camwhore who is a biochemical engineer. You do what you gotta do to stay out of debt.
User avatar #200 - krobeles (12/04/2014) [-]
Sure, its not a terribly good assumption, but I still think its the more likely option given the question "Is she more likely to have a degree in a scientific area or a Humanities?".
User avatar #201 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
I dunno... I don't really make assumptions with this little evidence. Also, I resent your denigration of humanities. There are some decent humanities majors for learning useful skills or doing essential services like sociology, linguistics, history, political science and creative writing. Everything else makes decent minor material. Humanities kinda help to enrich our thought even if they aren't immediately practical on their own.

I'm a Neuroscience Major/History Minor. I've also taken a philosophy course when I can. We aren't robots. Thinking about things differently is an interesting exercise, eh? I certainly wouldn't say humanities degrees are no better than a highschool diploma. No more employable, yes, but certainly better.
User avatar #202 - krobeles (12/04/2014) [-]
I dont think its unreasonable to assume something of a person, if you think its the more likely thing.
Creative writing? How is that useful? I may have a misunderstanding of precisely what that subject entails, but it sounds bloody useless. Yes, the Humanities can be somewhat interesting, but its a bloody waste of everyones time to teach them in universities (not all of them mind you, just most). We have something called Scientific Philosophy right now, which is a mandatory course in my physics degree, and it annoys the shit out of me. Not because its not interesting, it is, but because I know I'll ultimately come away from the subject with no usefull skills I didn't have going into it.

Atleast I am smart enough to understand that that humanitarian subject wont make any smarter or usefull. Some of the people who study the Humanities aren't as clever, and I have an on-going debate with a friend who has got it into her head that her humanitarian subject is a science. Its troubeling when a humanitarian sincerely believes that his/her subject is as usefull and legit as a science. Interesting, sure. Often more so than the scientific subject. Usefull? Not often.
User avatar #203 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
You're literally assuming that a stripper is going to have a useless major based on nothing other than the fact that she is a stripper. It's a poor basis for assumption... Seriously, for such a lover of science you're not being very scientific about your reasoning here. One piece of subjective evidence does not make a valid set of observations.

Creative writing... Don't you read books? Someone has to write that shit, eh.

Your comment about scientific philosophy proves my statement about how "we aren't robots and thinking differently is an interesting exercise".

how do you define "smart" and "useful"? Apparently by your definition writers are useless because TECHNICALLY society can function without any good writing. But christ almighty, who would want to live in that society?

Your entire last paragraph was illiterate. Another wonderful thing about the humanities. They're exceptional at communicating ideas. Society is constructed upon the words we use to express our ideas.

Also, good job ignoring all of the practical humanities courses that I brought up ASIDE from creative writing. Also, Linguistics in certain areas is essentially a science.

Though I half agree with you. Sciences are much harder than humanities to do. If you are capable of science you could argue that you're more useful to society. However, to claim those with humanities degrees are no better and sometimes even worse than highschool graduates is a ridiculous claim.
User avatar #204 - krobeles (12/04/2014) [-]
I agree. Not a terribly good assumption to make. Good thing this isn't a scientific field we're debating, which lowers the criteria for acceptable assumptions dramatically.

I like reading. I also like writing. I also understand that you dont need formal training beyond a very basic level to write interesting things. Its one of those things which formal training can teach you very little or nothing at all about. You need hands-experience to be a good writer, and you can get that without a needless elaborate education on the topic.

Just because you have difficulty understanding what I write, doesn't make it "illiterate". I also dont agree with your entire "Society is constructed upon the words we use to express our ideas". Thats like saying we can change society by useing different words, which any idiot can see the fault in.
I didn't ignore them. I just agreed that those were somewhat usefull, and therefor didn't feel the need to waste space and time by typing "I agree with this".

Its a ridiculous thing you say? Alright.
Explain to me how all those idiots with humanitarian degrees, who have the intellectual arrogance of an academic - but without the education of one - aren't worse than a highschooler who atleast understands that they aren't very educated. The highschooler has room for improvement, since he/she acknowledges that they still lack education.
Explain to me how all those feminazi cunts who have taken some botched humanitarian degree and therefor feel like they're in a unique position to critize society and everyone in it, aren't a bad thing.
Explain to me how lying to the students, deceiving them into believing they'll be able to get a job when they're done, aren't a bad thing.
And the best part? In my country, we recieve government funding to study. So each month, these useless cunts recieve a hefty sum of money to persue what essentially amounts to mental masturbation. Explain how those aren't problems to you.
User avatar #205 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
Then what is the criteria that we're using for making assumptions beyond your incredible bias?

Name an author who doesn't have a background in humanities. I'd say almost all of them do, and the few that don't are writing biographies for themselves or novelization of their research which can hardly be considered high caliber writing.

If the reason why I cannot understand what you're saying is because you had awful grammar, then yes, it is illiteracy.

Have you ever read 1984? Language is what constructs society. The more complex our language becomes, the more we are able to describe and the more specialized terminology we can create in order to more effectively transfer our thoughts to one another. I know this is hard for you as a physics major, seeing as you use basic universal terms when describing physical concepts, but you can understand on a holistic level how vocabulary influences the fluency within which one is capable of conveying one's thoughts, yes?

>You continue to claim baselessly that people with degrees in the humanities learn nothing. Christ man, you think they spend 4 years jacking off? Edit: Just read your last line. Apparently you do. Christ almighty you know absolutely nothing about the department of humanities. Please stop talking.
>academic feminism actually makes some valid claims.
>Feminists are not representative of the entire Department of Humanities
>you're assuming humanities students are EXCEPTIONALLY aware of their lack of employability post graduation. Trust me, scientific pedants like you tell them often enough.
>In my country it is eat what you kill. You pay your way for university or pray for a scholarship.
User avatar #206 - krobeles (12/04/2014) [-]
">academic feminism actually makes some valid claims. "

...And thats when this debate ended. I've been feeling like we've been going in circles from the get-go, and that remark was the drop that made me realize you are not a person I wish to understand, nor a person whom I have the abillity to understand. You dont seem like a total jackass nor a retard, so this isn't a "You're an asshole, fuck you!" kind of thing. Just that I've wasted too much time debating these things allready with various different people, without reaching even the vaguest hint of an agreement.
User avatar #210 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
Also you couldn't name one author who didn't have a background in humanities.


So yeah, while you respect me, I sure as fuck don't respect you anymore. You entered this conversation to talk to yourself about how great you think you are, not to talk to me. Fuck you.
User avatar #209 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
All types are courtesy of autocorrelation. Praise be my phone.
User avatar #208 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
Darling, this ended when you claimed that a degree in humanities is literally 4 years of masturbation and nothing else.

I love how you think it's completely reasonable to assume that all strippers must have Shitty degrees of they get one, but when I say that academic feminism makes some valid points WHOAH HOLD THE FUCK UP BUDDY, BETTER COOL YOUR JETS. THAT CRAZY TALK.

You are by far the least scientific science major I've ever had the displeasure of talking to. Have fun circle jetting with your fellow condescending socially awkward physicists because even I as a fellow science major cannot stomach your conversation.

Try being less of a judgmental price, people may like you more.
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User avatar #161 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
nice assumptions there, mate.
User avatar #198 - krobeles (12/04/2014) [-]
And you propose that its more likely for a stripper to have a degree in a scientific area, rather than some useless Humanities bullshit? Really?
User avatar #199 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
I propose no assumptions can really be made.

I know a camwhore who is a biochemical engineer. You do what you gotta do to stay out of debt.
User avatar #200 - krobeles (12/04/2014) [-]
Sure, its not a terribly good assumption, but I still think its the more likely option given the question "Is she more likely to have a degree in a scientific area or a Humanities?".
User avatar #201 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
I dunno... I don't really make assumptions with this little evidence. Also, I resent your denigration of humanities. There are some decent humanities majors for learning useful skills or doing essential services like sociology, linguistics, history, political science and creative writing. Everything else makes decent minor material. Humanities kinda help to enrich our thought even if they aren't immediately practical on their own.

I'm a Neuroscience Major/History Minor. I've also taken a philosophy course when I can. We aren't robots. Thinking about things differently is an interesting exercise, eh? I certainly wouldn't say humanities degrees are no better than a highschool diploma. No more employable, yes, but certainly better.
User avatar #202 - krobeles (12/04/2014) [-]
I dont think its unreasonable to assume something of a person, if you think its the more likely thing.
Creative writing? How is that useful? I may have a misunderstanding of precisely what that subject entails, but it sounds bloody useless. Yes, the Humanities can be somewhat interesting, but its a bloody waste of everyones time to teach them in universities (not all of them mind you, just most). We have something called Scientific Philosophy right now, which is a mandatory course in my physics degree, and it annoys the shit out of me. Not because its not interesting, it is, but because I know I'll ultimately come away from the subject with no usefull skills I didn't have going into it.

Atleast I am smart enough to understand that that humanitarian subject wont make any smarter or usefull. Some of the people who study the Humanities aren't as clever, and I have an on-going debate with a friend who has got it into her head that her humanitarian subject is a science. Its troubeling when a humanitarian sincerely believes that his/her subject is as usefull and legit as a science. Interesting, sure. Often more so than the scientific subject. Usefull? Not often.
User avatar #203 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
You're literally assuming that a stripper is going to have a useless major based on nothing other than the fact that she is a stripper. It's a poor basis for assumption... Seriously, for such a lover of science you're not being very scientific about your reasoning here. One piece of subjective evidence does not make a valid set of observations.

Creative writing... Don't you read books? Someone has to write that shit, eh.

Your comment about scientific philosophy proves my statement about how "we aren't robots and thinking differently is an interesting exercise".

how do you define "smart" and "useful"? Apparently by your definition writers are useless because TECHNICALLY society can function without any good writing. But christ almighty, who would want to live in that society?

Your entire last paragraph was illiterate. Another wonderful thing about the humanities. They're exceptional at communicating ideas. Society is constructed upon the words we use to express our ideas.

Also, good job ignoring all of the practical humanities courses that I brought up ASIDE from creative writing. Also, Linguistics in certain areas is essentially a science.

Though I half agree with you. Sciences are much harder than humanities to do. If you are capable of science you could argue that you're more useful to society. However, to claim those with humanities degrees are no better and sometimes even worse than highschool graduates is a ridiculous claim.
User avatar #204 - krobeles (12/04/2014) [-]
I agree. Not a terribly good assumption to make. Good thing this isn't a scientific field we're debating, which lowers the criteria for acceptable assumptions dramatically.

I like reading. I also like writing. I also understand that you dont need formal training beyond a very basic level to write interesting things. Its one of those things which formal training can teach you very little or nothing at all about. You need hands-experience to be a good writer, and you can get that without a needless elaborate education on the topic.

Just because you have difficulty understanding what I write, doesn't make it "illiterate". I also dont agree with your entire "Society is constructed upon the words we use to express our ideas". Thats like saying we can change society by useing different words, which any idiot can see the fault in.
I didn't ignore them. I just agreed that those were somewhat usefull, and therefor didn't feel the need to waste space and time by typing "I agree with this".

Its a ridiculous thing you say? Alright.
Explain to me how all those idiots with humanitarian degrees, who have the intellectual arrogance of an academic - but without the education of one - aren't worse than a highschooler who atleast understands that they aren't very educated. The highschooler has room for improvement, since he/she acknowledges that they still lack education.
Explain to me how all those feminazi cunts who have taken some botched humanitarian degree and therefor feel like they're in a unique position to critize society and everyone in it, aren't a bad thing.
Explain to me how lying to the students, deceiving them into believing they'll be able to get a job when they're done, aren't a bad thing.
And the best part? In my country, we recieve government funding to study. So each month, these useless cunts recieve a hefty sum of money to persue what essentially amounts to mental masturbation. Explain how those aren't problems to you.
User avatar #205 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
Then what is the criteria that we're using for making assumptions beyond your incredible bias?

Name an author who doesn't have a background in humanities. I'd say almost all of them do, and the few that don't are writing biographies for themselves or novelization of their research which can hardly be considered high caliber writing.

If the reason why I cannot understand what you're saying is because you had awful grammar, then yes, it is illiteracy.

Have you ever read 1984? Language is what constructs society. The more complex our language becomes, the more we are able to describe and the more specialized terminology we can create in order to more effectively transfer our thoughts to one another. I know this is hard for you as a physics major, seeing as you use basic universal terms when describing physical concepts, but you can understand on a holistic level how vocabulary influences the fluency within which one is capable of conveying one's thoughts, yes?

>You continue to claim baselessly that people with degrees in the humanities learn nothing. Christ man, you think they spend 4 years jacking off? Edit: Just read your last line. Apparently you do. Christ almighty you know absolutely nothing about the department of humanities. Please stop talking.
>academic feminism actually makes some valid claims.
>Feminists are not representative of the entire Department of Humanities
>you're assuming humanities students are EXCEPTIONALLY aware of their lack of employability post graduation. Trust me, scientific pedants like you tell them often enough.
>In my country it is eat what you kill. You pay your way for university or pray for a scholarship.
User avatar #206 - krobeles (12/04/2014) [-]
">academic feminism actually makes some valid claims. "

...And thats when this debate ended. I've been feeling like we've been going in circles from the get-go, and that remark was the drop that made me realize you are not a person I wish to understand, nor a person whom I have the abillity to understand. You dont seem like a total jackass nor a retard, so this isn't a "You're an asshole, fuck you!" kind of thing. Just that I've wasted too much time debating these things allready with various different people, without reaching even the vaguest hint of an agreement.
User avatar #210 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
Also you couldn't name one author who didn't have a background in humanities.


So yeah, while you respect me, I sure as fuck don't respect you anymore. You entered this conversation to talk to yourself about how great you think you are, not to talk to me. Fuck you.
User avatar #209 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
All types are courtesy of autocorrelation. Praise be my phone.
User avatar #208 - Sethorein (12/04/2014) [-]
Darling, this ended when you claimed that a degree in humanities is literally 4 years of masturbation and nothing else.

I love how you think it's completely reasonable to assume that all strippers must have Shitty degrees of they get one, but when I say that academic feminism makes some valid points WHOAH HOLD THE FUCK UP BUDDY, BETTER COOL YOUR JETS. THAT CRAZY TALK.

You are by far the least scientific science major I've ever had the displeasure of talking to. Have fun circle jetting with your fellow condescending socially awkward physicists because even I as a fellow science major cannot stomach your conversation.

Try being less of a judgmental price, people may like you more.
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User avatar #327 - lean (12/01/2014) [-]
IDK man I work with what I've got. As far as the first guy, probably not many qualifications other than he is the only person to have put together a comprehensive list of police shootings. There are independant records within each department, and sometimes whole states, but not a federal database with any accurate data. The FBI stopped keeping a list in the 90's because it was too hard to obtain records from every police precinct in the country. As for denmark, I think it was 11 deaths in the 10 year period, giving a .187 death/1,000,000 people. Denmark records incidents of even drawing a gun in reports, so I suspect the deaths per incident are really low. Looks like about 1 in 5 result in a death from the stats in table #2.
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User avatar #62 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
Now you wanna be civil?! Where did that come from? Fine, we'll have a discussion.

Women have to fear death too. Like, usually the fear of rape comes with the fear of death. And you can argue what you did when it comes to gangs messing with guys on the street, but that's the same for women by other women. Like, I know some girls who get messed with by the Latin Kings because they're Hispanic girls. I do not see how these issues even out. Maybe quantitatively, but not when it comes to the level of danger and effect. But if they did (and please clarify for me with legitimate examples), these issues have one thing in common: notions of masculinity, whether it be inter-gendered or intra-gendered. Those guys that beat you up started messing you because they thought you looked like a faggot. That's a hierarchy of sex right there: straight males have the right to attack homosexual males in an attempt to display their masculinity. Men are affected negatively by notions of masculinity also, but the effect of masculinity on males is seen more in the male treatment of women. And these notions of masculinity, while also in part perpetuated by women, are largely and more easily perpetuated by men. This is why feminism is here, and this is why women are more affected than men: men are taught masculinity, which shapes them as people and shapes their treatment of women, which leads to women taking more of the damage than men.

This is not creating a culture of victims. This is giving people something tangible to fight against. Naming a common cause of this type of gendered violence allows the fight to be fought more realistically. Naming a more specific root of a problem is more effective than just generalizing everything because violence is born and molded in different ways.

You're right about more women being accepted into universities, but when it comes to professional studies (law school, med school, etc.) less women are being accepted.

Hold on. I'm not done.
User avatar #63 to #62 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
A flaw of feminism is that there is not enough discussion on the oppression faced by people experiencing the intersectionality of being minority and a woman. That's in part why womanism was born, but many feminists incorporate intersectionality into their beliefs.

And that story about your mom? One success story doesn't mean equality. Many of the women in my family immigrated from Mexico and became pregnant as teenagers. Many of the women in my family were also raped or molested. My grandmother was beaten by her husband, and many of the women in my family and in this culture are expected to stay in the house and fulfill their roles as women. This isn't just limited to my family, it's everywhere. These issues do exist.
User avatar #64 to #63 - krobeles (08/30/2014) [-]
Alright, lets try something alittle different.
We can agree that women face some issues, yes? We can also agree that men face some issues, yes? We can furthermore agree that they share a number of common issues and that atleast a few of them share a common cause? If we can agree on this, why are we having this discussion in the frame of womens issues and why is the movement called Feminism?

To a degree, I agree with you on the masculinity thing. I have this skirt that I think I love just lovely in, but I rarely find it aproriate to wear that, because I know what people will think of a dude in a skirt. And thats sort of my issue with the feminist movement. I am not saying that women dont face issues and I am not saying the issues they do face are allways insignificant. But forming a humanitarian movement which attacks a grand social problem, but to face solely on the issues faced by one gender, is subtle sexism in and of itself.

Its also important to note that assholes and idiots will always exist. I see alot of these feminists attacking the "How not to get raped" things, with stupid ******** like "Dont teach women not to get raped, teach not to rape!", which is just silly.
We could apply this logic to common acts and thievery and see it fall apart. "Dont tell me to lock my door, tell thieves not to rob my house!". It is true that thieves and thugs never have the right to rob/rape you, but if you dont take steps to pretend and desentavise them from doing so, then you automatically forfiet a small part of your right to complain.
And in that same regard, I dont go around spouting ******** like "Teach people not to assault men people in skirts with long hair!", I just accept that such savage behavior is inherent in some particularily nasty people, and find ways to prevent it myself. I own a few weapons in my home, and I know a basic few things of self defence.

I dont believe that feminism gives women "something tangible to fight against". It provides a nebulous threat of the ominous "Patriarchy" and "Male-opression" to fight against. Since the easily explained (very dumbed down) cause this is white males, you suddenly have alot of these women who feel disenfranchised and run-down, who suddenly find something to point at and go "Thats the cause of all my problems!". Since they've forgotten to mention that the thing they're fighting against hurts all parts of society equally, these women never really stop to consider if perhaps they're attacking the problem from the wrong angle or if they're attacking the wrong people.

Just as you say that one success story doesn't a trend make, I dont feel like your family experience is anymore valid an example. Rot festers in places in which it is not cleaned out, and if there has been an unfortunate trend in your family of abuse, then it is a given that it will continue unless someone makes an effort to cut out the rot.

Ultimately, what I said about feminism not not attacking the right issues can be linked to this. If what you claim happened to your family is the general trend amongst Mexican/African famillies, then that is a serious problem which needs to taken care of. However, it seems to me that the general feminist movement are far more interested in applying their efforts towards comparatively harmless videogames and TV-shows, which are totally and entirely insignificant in comparison to actual family abuse and rape.

This leads me to believe that the new feminist movement isn't really about equality, but rather just a fandom-esque circlejerk in which its members are more concerned with the tiny minute issues they might concievably face, rather the actual big and serious issues which actually needs their attention.

Well, to comment on the civil discussion thing, taking a few minutes to play a game of tower defence, and making a conceded effort to appear less of an angry shouty person in order to facillitate more constructive debate, does its thing rather well. Also, I largely view insults and shouty-debates as a form of humor. So long as I'm just trying to trying to get a rail out of people, I insult them. Theres a certain art to a well constructed and imaginative insult, I find. However, if the says or does something that belies the potential for actually interesting debate, its another matter entirely.
User avatar #65 to #64 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
We're having this discussion in the frame of women's issues because it does effect women in a more detrimental way and it *is* more perpetuated by men. I mentioned that men go through oppressions also, like the pressure to be masculine, but many of those pressures are self-perpetuated and the result is displayed in their relationships toward women. And it is called feminism because femininity is not limited to women. It is not subscribed to one gender or sex.

The concept of a humanitarian movement is good in theory, but there's issues in that we wouldn't be able to prevent the perpetuation of oppression without knowing where it comes from. Let's take gangs as an example. A lot of inner city groups are preaching to kids that "violence is bad," something everyone has been hearing for the longest time. However, things like this aren't working. What works instead is legislation that targets poverty and expands opportunity and education, which is keeping kids off the street. We can have a whole anti-violence movement, but fighting violence in general is too grand of a scale to address realistically. Narrowing down oppression allows us to take the fight one step at a time. Not to mention that forming groups like these also give people a sense of community in what they're facing.

Hold on I"m not done
User avatar #66 to #65 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
Okay, honestly with the "don't teach women how to not get raped, teach not to rape" thing, I only agree 50%. Yeah, we do have to put more of the focus in preventing sexual assault on the perpetrator, but we also need to teach everyone how to stay safe and stay away from risky behaviors in a way that doesn't result in someone saying, "well, she was hanging with the wrong crowd, so maybe she wouldn't have gotten raped if she wasn't where she was" or something like that. Victims see enough of a reason to blame themselves without stuff like this being said. And if by "complain" you mean be angry or upset, then you do still have a right to complain, because while steps could have been taken to prevent stuff like this, the perpetrator could have *not* raped the victim. You mention "teach people not to assault men in skirts with long hair." While I am sorry you were assaulted, and while this should NOT have happened to you, there is no trend of men wearing skirts and getting assaulted. There is a big trend of women and men getting raped by males though.

Feminism exists past the internet, past funnyjunk, past 4chan and past tumblr. Don't make the mistake of wrongly labeling a whole group of people because of popular opinion on these websites. True feminists are not attacking anyone. White males are pointed at (not attacked) as a cause because (1) they have the most power in society, and (2) the fact that most don't have to deal with discrimination based on sex, race or gender creates a feeling of disdain in the white male community for these people that are fighting these issues. Honestly, that's how it is. If you're more exposed to racism, you'd care more about ending it. The same goes with sexism. I mean, look at funnyjunk. The largest community here is white, male and straight. Look at how much easier this anti-feminism thing floated compared to a place like tumblr, where a good fraction of the users are female and not white.

Hold on
User avatar #67 to #66 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
I was wary about mentioning my family, but I thought it was okay since I don't know you and you don't know me. I can assure you that these issues are not limited to my family, and please refrain from comparing them to "rot," even if you do see it as fit.

The grand feminist movement is not focused on video games and such. The internet/tumblr feminist movement is. And I definitely wouldn't argue these video games and whatever are harmless. I'm gonna make a cliche argument, but just because it's cliche doesn't mean it's not true: it hurts self esteem. Seeing all these sexy girls in video games, music videos, and everywhere else in the ******* media sucks. Seeing guys drool over those girls also sucks. Women are oversexualized and we're pressured to look like them. It's cliche but it's true.

Feminism is not a circle jerk. I'm just saying feminism concerns more than tumblr and the internet.

Okay now I'm done
User avatar #68 to #67 - krobeles (08/30/2014) [-]
The thing about teaching people "not to rape" though, is that that is impossible. As I said, there will allways be assholes, and they know full well that rape is wrong. They just dont care, because they're egotistical asshats.
I was just useing myself as an example (I've never been assaulted while wearing the skirt, actually), of something that would be equally silly.
Of course you still have some right to complain - it is still wrong to rape or assault people regardless of what they wear or how they behave - but you have to admit that the complaint falls alot shorter if the person in question took active steps to put himself/herself in harms way to begin with?
You could liken it to a person climbing onto a scaffolding and then falling down and breaks both legs. Is it regrettable that the person fell and broke both legs? Yes. Was it rather expected, based on circumstance and the poor safety measure the person had set up? Yes.

I am not so sure about the "Feminism exists past the internet"-thing. Of course it is reasonable to assume that there is the odd feminist every now and again, but on a grander scale, the only people I've ever met who claimed themselves feminists is two girls who associate with the Tumblr crowd on the internet. They're more a physical extension of the internet-Tumblr-feminists than actual feminists. Other than them, I've never anyone who claimed themselves feminist. It might because all of what you've happened is more of an issue in the states, than it is in Denmark, but it still doesn't do much to make me convinced that actual - none-Tumblr - feminists actually exists.
This is why I largely allow the Tumblr-feminists view to be indicative of all feminists. I've never met a non-tumblr feminists in all my 21 years, and I therefor dont really have faith that they exist outside of the internet.

Which is actually another thing I've come to consider. Since many of the Tumblr feminists seem to be American and preoccupised with strictly American issues, I am starting to consider that perhaps America might suffer infinitely more from these issues discriminatory issues than the European countries (Well, Denmark, atleast). But I dont see the Tumblr-feminists treating it as an American problem dispite the fact that it might be a strictly American problem. This comes back to what I mentioned with the feminists being an angry hate-club which're just looking for their next big issue to be offended over. I'm sure that if they stopped for five minutes and looked at some of the silly things they get offended over, they would see how silly it is. Instead though, they're much too busy yelling and shouting angryly at game developers, who had the audacity to make their female character busty.

I wasn't comparing your family to rot. I was comparing the aparent trend of violence and rape to rot. Just because a person commits a rotten action, does not a rotten person make. I actually intended to write something along those lines in my comment, but I must've forgot. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.

As I explained above, I dont think that there really is a true divide between "the grand feminist movement" and the tumblr feminists.
If the video game thing hurts the self esteem of some people, then I honestly think that they those need to grow a spine, sorry to say. There are dudes in video games too, who are insanely buff and masculin beyond anything realistic. The dudes that aren't, are insanely intelligent and sucessful in busness or whatever. Should men be offended at this depiction of dudes?
Thats why we call it fiction. Its not suposed to be taken as seriously as some feminists do and claim other women do as well. Its an idealized version of a woman marketet to a predominantly white male teen audience. What do you think sells well with white teenage dudes? Tits, of course. Its not a question of discrimination or objectification, its a question of marketing. White teenage guys likes tits, so the corporations gives them tits.
Add this to the fact that almost all of my female friends I've asked directly if they feel offended or objectified by fictional works, says they find it silly and of course they dont. I think this problem lies with the self-esteem of the people who complain about it. Its not that these images and materials cause bad self esteem in women, its that these images remind women who allready suffer from bad self esteem, how ****** they feel about themselves. Sorry if this seems a bit cynical; but we cant pander to a group of mentally ill people, who complain about something no person with proper self esteem and self image would find the least bit offensive. The lowest common denominator should not dictate the direction the crowd moves.
This is not to say that I nessesarily condone the way females are portrayed in games and general media. I think they hamstrings themselves, by reducing females in the way they do. This goes for men aswell. No interesting plots are going to arise from a story in which all females are card-board cutouts with latex tits plastered onto, and all males are gruff handsom flawless Adonis wanna-bes who can solve 3rd grade differential equations in their heads while bench pressing 4 times their own weight.
Outside of the detrimental effects to storytelling that it has, I cant view this as anything other than one of those silly null-issues I complain about the feminists being all too keen to focus on, while ignoring the grander problems.

I dont believe that men systematically opress women. Not here in the rest anyway. Those in power opress those not in power. Its been like that forever and it'll likely continue to be like that a long time into the future too. A good bunch of those in power are white males, which is a left-over from a time in which white males did actually opress everyone not white and not male. Non-white non-males just haven't had the chance to bleed up through the molasses-like power structure that we've instituted. Thats not opression, thats just a matter of fact.

I feel like you handicap the conversation by framing it this context, when what you're really complaining about is a grander social problem, not singularily suffered by women. It would be like discussing war casualties as a mens issue, because the majority of soldiers are men. Dont you think the female soldiers would be slightly pissed off, about the fact that they're role and their pains in the army is effectively being ignored?

User avatar #69 to #68 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
See? No. It shouldn't matter if people took "active steps to put themselves in harm's way." We're way to focused on that. If "harm's way" qualifies as being with a man late at night, than that vilifies men way more than anything else. We need to teach people not to rape. And rape is a preventable thing, because the main reason men--and yes, the majority of perpetrators are men--rape is because they want to feel power. Power, of course, is a characteristic of masculinity. The male need to feel power is the male need to feel masculine. Again, the reason this whole feminism thing exists is to fight trends. There is a trend of men who rape. The is a trend of women getting raped. There is a trend of masculinity being pushed by men and there is a trend of men needing to feel power. This is not silly.
The connection to the scaffolding isn't valid because there is no perpetrator. An accident is different than flat out assault. You cannot, by any means, blame a victim like that. No one deserves rape and we shouldn't treat any case as lesser because "she was wearing a skirt too short" or "she was out with the wrong crowd." That's always the first thing people think about--what the girl was doing wrong--rather than why the guy raped her or what he shouldn't have done. And how many times can guys catch themselves doing the same thing with no consequence? Men can be out late at night with women. Men can walk around with no shirt and not be raped. It just happens on a much larger scale with women.

hold on
User avatar #70 to #69 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
A big part of the feminism we're discussing is feminism in America. I can definitely contest that feminism exists outside of the internet. I know many feminists who are not using social networks in their practice at all. There are many thinkers--bell hooks, for example--that are held up to a high standard and that would disagree with the things that the "tumblr feminists" say. If you really aren't exposed to this group and are actually ignorant to it, then how can this part of your argument have a good foundation?

There is a problem with that. You mention a white male audience when it comes to video games, but about half of the gaming audience is women. And women are sexualized more in games, that's just it. I'll take Resident Evil as an example. Leon and Chris have big muscles, yes, but look at the females in the game. Clare is wearing tight clothes and whatever, but what bothers me most is that in every RE games she's in, the camera focuses on her ass and pans up her body at least like 3 times per game. And look at Ada (if you never played these games you should google these characters). She runs around in a ******* long red, sexy dress and high heels in RE4, and it is clear that Leon is caught in a spell because of her. It's always Leon sexualizing her, not the other way around. And the villains in RE. The majority of the male villains are old men, like Salazar in RE4 and Birkin in the Darkside Chronicles--while the female villains are like, almost naked and sexy in a weird monster way. But if you still think that "males are just as sexualized as females," and if you have a problem with it, say something. Don't get mad at other people for saying something they have a problem with by claiming you have a problem with something else--fix it.
And all of this oversexualization is related to MASCULINITY. That's what I've been saying. The oversexualization of men is also related to masculinity and the idea that men can't be heroes unless they're masculine. hold on
User avatar #71 to #70 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
These video games enforce these notions of masculinity both ways and in turn enforce notions of power. It's all about the mindset these things perpetuate.

It is oppression because it is a matter of fact. That's how ingrained it is--we believe we can't fight it. You can't say oppression doesn't exist, even in places like America, because there is a type of person that succeeds and there is a type of person that doesn't, and it mostly doesn't boil down to laziness or true inferiority. It's about who's "at risk" to fail and who's not "at risk." Not everyone has equal opportunity and not everyone is born to the same circumstances, and it mostly depends on race, class and gender, and that's why these individual tiers have individual activism groups. We can't just say "well people are always gonna be oppressed" and not do anything about it, because no where in America's history (and hardly anywhere in world history) were white, straight males oppressed. Everyone else was.

For the last part of your argument, again, females are more negatively affected by this. Masculinity is related to power and sex and it is displayed in the male treatment of women. I've addressed this already.
User avatar #42 - revengeforfreeze (11/06/2013) [-]
yYOUS AN BRON?!
User avatar #43 to #42 - krobeles (11/06/2013) [-]
ehm, say what now??
User avatar #44 to #43 - revengeforfreeze (11/09/2013) [-]
you're a brony?
User avatar #45 to #44 - krobeles (11/09/2013) [-]
I dont identify as one, no.
Why?
User avatar #46 to #45 - revengeforfreeze (11/09/2013) [-]
>joined ponytime
>posted pony content
User avatar #47 to #46 - krobeles (11/09/2013) [-]
So? That dosen't make me a brony. That makes a dude who watches My Little Pony.
I recon theres a differance.
User avatar #48 to #47 - revengeforfreeze (11/09/2013) [-]
well okay
i didnt know the difference tbh
User avatar #49 to #48 - krobeles (11/09/2013) [-]
Its more of a personal thing, actually.
I view the "Bronies" as the greezy fat neck bearded Otaku-wannabies who attend cons and cosplay girls.
I'm not one of those.
User avatar #51 to #50 - krobeles (11/09/2013) [-]
Why'de you ask anyway?
User avatar #52 to #51 - revengeforfreeze (11/09/2013) [-]
don tnkow.
User avatar #53 to #52 - krobeles (11/09/2013) [-]
Weeell...Aaalright then..G'day...
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User avatar #30 - gemleonn (12/21/2012) [-]
Why is it every time I go to someone's profile to call them a ****** , there's always some weird pony **** going on?
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#26 - verminator (12/21/2012) [-]
Sup ***** !
User avatar #23 - elitefourkoga (12/21/2012) [-]
You're a ****** , harry.
User avatar #22 - orx (12/21/2012) [-]
This ******** got some kinky **** on his profile.
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Hey, ****** .
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#13 to #12 - zonryu (10/26/2012) [-]
and the last one is of fluttershy as a witch
User avatar #14 to #13 - zonryu (10/26/2012) [-]
good day to you sir
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