x
Click to expand

krobeles

Last status update:
-
Personal Info
Gender: male
Date Signed Up:8/08/2012
Last Login:4/18/2015
Location:Denmark
Funnyjunk Career Stats
Comment Ranking:#2507
Highest Content Rank:#2711
Highest Comment Rank:#1055
Content Thumbs: 1631 total,  1916 ,  285
Comment Thumbs: 5474 total,  10942 ,  5468
Content Level Progress: 30% (30/100)
Level 116 Content: Funny Junkie → Level 117 Content: Funny Junkie
Comment Level Progress: 73% (73/100)
Level 244 Comments: Doinitrite → Level 245 Comments: Doinitrite
Subscribers:1
Content Views:101200
Times Content Favorited:72 times
Total Comments Made:3981
FJ Points:6140
Favorite Tags: fucking (2) | shit (2)

latest user's comments

#46 - You should go see a doctor about that. That sounds legite…  [+] (1 new reply) 04/10/2015 on Send Help 0
User avatar #47 - Ghostdoom (04/10/2015) [-]
Happened years ago and never happened since. Apparently a symptom of being hypoglycemic.
#242 - This could become a thing. "The teenage witch and he… 04/09/2015 on I want a familiar +2
#309 - I think the logic goes something along the lines of; "The…  [+] (3 new replies) 04/09/2015 on Photography Woes -2
#312 - smoothmofo (04/09/2015) [-]
I'm like 80% i would be able to get a bachelor in photograpy in one year. Probably with multiple minors including phone calls, texting, playstore and angry birds
#327 - improbable (04/09/2015) [-]
User avatar #315 - deltoraquest (04/09/2015) [-]
off you go then, prove us all wrong
#60 - Now, I'm no medical professional, but I'm pretty sure kidneys … 04/08/2015 on Love +18
#153 - Is it easy to memorize a million things? No. Then thats n…  [+] (1 new reply) 04/07/2015 on Anatomy of the basic bitch 0
#168 - chilljohn (04/07/2015) [-]
Depending on the nurse, they also have physical labor and need to be able to different things for each and every patient. Whenever a person is in isolation or reverse isolation it's not the doctors going in there to constantly provide food, water, baths, etc. Certain ones have to lift heavy people and objects for people. They help to move patients out of and onto their bed, move them from place to place, make their beds, if patients can't go themselves it's the nurses who give them the bedside commodes, cleaning it, checking for anything wrong with it before sterilizing and placing them back. We have to deal with angry, uncooperative people, some even try to hurt you or make you require multiple ones to help them. Plus, they have to deal with that every day, and can develop back problems, nurses elbow (an actual ailment), and generally are hurt more to help others. It's definitely not the absolute hardest, but it's damn labor intensive on top of needing to know a million things.
#150 - Wait, no. ...Technically, I guess, yes I did. I dont … 04/07/2015 on Anatomy of the basic bitch +3
#148 - Thats basically the same as everything else, including regular…  [+] (4 new replies) 04/07/2015 on Anatomy of the basic bitch 0
User avatar #175 - wthree (04/08/2015) [-]
I dont know what its like the US, but here in the UK nursing requires more hours than any other degree per year. And while on placement, the job is rough. It has many of the same stresses as a doctor (i.e peoples lives are depending on you), but you're dealing with a higher number of people. The kind of work you do isn't glamorous half the time either, cleaning other peoples shit, washing people, that kind of stuff. They get abused, attacked, threatened and worked to the bone. Even once they finish, if they go to work for the NHS they will be stretched ridiculously thin. They do a job that is as necessary as the Doctors with none of the respect.

And they they get people like you calling them failed doctors and saying it's all easy.
User avatar #151 - atrocitustheking (04/07/2015) [-]
Are you implying that the science degrees are easy too? I never said it was the hardest, but it's no field for pussies.
User avatar #153 - krobeles (04/07/2015) [-]
Is it easy to memorize a million things? No.
Then thats not what I'm implying. I just dont see how its significantly more difficult than the rest.
#168 - chilljohn (04/07/2015) [-]
Depending on the nurse, they also have physical labor and need to be able to different things for each and every patient. Whenever a person is in isolation or reverse isolation it's not the doctors going in there to constantly provide food, water, baths, etc. Certain ones have to lift heavy people and objects for people. They help to move patients out of and onto their bed, move them from place to place, make their beds, if patients can't go themselves it's the nurses who give them the bedside commodes, cleaning it, checking for anything wrong with it before sterilizing and placing them back. We have to deal with angry, uncooperative people, some even try to hurt you or make you require multiple ones to help them. Plus, they have to deal with that every day, and can develop back problems, nurses elbow (an actual ailment), and generally are hurt more to help others. It's definitely not the absolute hardest, but it's damn labor intensive on top of needing to know a million things.
#142 - ...Rough major, eh? Alright, I'm listening. From where I'…  [+] (10 new replies) 04/07/2015 on Anatomy of the basic bitch -2
User avatar #173 - sphincterface (04/08/2015) [-]
Are you kidding? It's hard as fuck. My best friend is in nursing and its driving her nuts. So much working and studying involved with it and it's pretty stressful.
User avatar #171 - curveball (04/08/2015) [-]
The hospital placements they have to do in their later years of study can get pretty brutal when they have to balance it with their classes, which are no picnic themselves. It's a tough major to prepare students for a tough job. Nursing and medicine have different approaches to patient care. You can't call one ¨a lite version of medicine¨. Also, I don't understand why, just because medicine is harder, that means anything less is easy? Getting into med school is probably one of the most difficult undertakings for a student, why does that make it the cutoff for what's difficult and what isn't?
User avatar #149 - fiahhawt (04/07/2015) [-]
Did you just call everyone who didn't get into medical school a loser? the fuck man, that's rough
User avatar #150 - krobeles (04/07/2015) [-]
Wait, no.
...Technically, I guess, yes I did. I dont fucking know. I'm going to bed...
User avatar #145 - atrocitustheking (04/07/2015) [-]
Ask a nursing major, they'll be able to give you a much better idea of it than I. One put it this way: "I now declare my social life legally dead."
You have to learn and memorize every fucking muscle in the body, have to know what the meds are, how much to give, almost everything a doctor does. And they get shit on constantly once they get into the workforce. Is it any wonder there is a shortage of them?
User avatar #148 - krobeles (04/07/2015) [-]
Thats basically the same as everything else, including regular medicine, isn't it?
Any science degree has to memorize a million different things. I dont really see how nursing is that much more difficult.
User avatar #175 - wthree (04/08/2015) [-]
I dont know what its like the US, but here in the UK nursing requires more hours than any other degree per year. And while on placement, the job is rough. It has many of the same stresses as a doctor (i.e peoples lives are depending on you), but you're dealing with a higher number of people. The kind of work you do isn't glamorous half the time either, cleaning other peoples shit, washing people, that kind of stuff. They get abused, attacked, threatened and worked to the bone. Even once they finish, if they go to work for the NHS they will be stretched ridiculously thin. They do a job that is as necessary as the Doctors with none of the respect.

And they they get people like you calling them failed doctors and saying it's all easy.
User avatar #151 - atrocitustheking (04/07/2015) [-]
Are you implying that the science degrees are easy too? I never said it was the hardest, but it's no field for pussies.
User avatar #153 - krobeles (04/07/2015) [-]
Is it easy to memorize a million things? No.
Then thats not what I'm implying. I just dont see how its significantly more difficult than the rest.
#168 - chilljohn (04/07/2015) [-]
Depending on the nurse, they also have physical labor and need to be able to different things for each and every patient. Whenever a person is in isolation or reverse isolation it's not the doctors going in there to constantly provide food, water, baths, etc. Certain ones have to lift heavy people and objects for people. They help to move patients out of and onto their bed, move them from place to place, make their beds, if patients can't go themselves it's the nurses who give them the bedside commodes, cleaning it, checking for anything wrong with it before sterilizing and placing them back. We have to deal with angry, uncooperative people, some even try to hurt you or make you require multiple ones to help them. Plus, they have to deal with that every day, and can develop back problems, nurses elbow (an actual ailment), and generally are hurt more to help others. It's definitely not the absolute hardest, but it's damn labor intensive on top of needing to know a million things.
#305 - Why is it an issue? Essentially, the question that we ask in E… 04/07/2015 on Reverse-Racism 0
#294 - Precisely. This study is useless. It doesn't matter that …  [+] (2 new replies) 04/07/2015 on Reverse-Racism 0
#298 - vaalkyrie (04/07/2015) [-]
I'm European too haha. But to me de jure equality is very far from de facto equality. It is a kind of self-perpetuating cycle in which minorities do less well paid jobs because they never received a high standard of education, and consequentially they cant provide the same opportunities for their chioldren as white parents, ergo the white children do better than their minority counterparts so they go to better universities, then get better jobs, earn more money and they can provide better for their children. I struggle to see how the study is irrelevant, it just proves that minorities earn FAR less on average than whites, which i see as an issue.
User avatar #305 - krobeles (04/07/2015) [-]
Why is it an issue? Essentially, the question that we ask in Europe is; "Are you willing to work hard and recieve lots of money as compensation for your hard work?". Assuming that the numbers in the link you provded - which was an American study, as far as I can decern - hold true for the average European country, that would only prove that white people has on avrage answered "Yes! I am willing to work hard!" while the average non-white has gone "Nah". If anything, it proves that non-whites are lazy.
We have free education here, with mandatory basic education. Even if you're born to the shittiest of shitty poor parents in the lowest income imaginable, you can still get that basic bit of mandatory education - hell, that one bit is still being forced on you. After that, its up to yourself if you wish to continue on our free higher education. I dont know if this is the case in every other European countries, but students actually get paid to study here in Denmark. I've been living on my own in my nations capital for almost two years solely on what the state gives me just for attending my facillity of higher education. Literally the only barrier to entry, is your own personal willingness to work your ass off doing what is asked of you. Nobody here cares if you're black, white, yellow or fucking blue! All we care about, is that you're willing to work.
The income of the parents has literally no bearing on any of that. My parents aren't poor, but they certainly aren't rich. I was never supported heavily in a financial way by my parents and I was never supported in an academic way by them either, because none of them are academics! My mom is even a bloody immigrant from Finland, where she lived in a small ass village in the fucking woods! In what world does the income of the parents factor into it, when the system is entirely free??

If I sound a bit aggravated, I am sorry. I am just very perplexed by how a person can claim that the income of the parents factors into a system that doesn't use that income as a variable in any way at all.
#270 - Are you abselutely sure you can trust those statistics? Have y…  [+] (4 new replies) 04/07/2015 on Reverse-Racism 0
#274 - vaalkyrie (04/07/2015) [-]
www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0701.pdf
That is the source of my statistics. I don't mean that minorities get paid less for doing the SAME job, rather they, on average, earn less than their white counterparts. Sure, some of this probably still can be attributed to the fact that racism hasn't been removed from the system for all that long, but I don't believe that is an adequate response to the statistics. Minorities tend to take less well-paid jobs but this is generally rooted in the fact that they don't on average, go into higher education, read while young, have parents who are prepared to support their development to a great extent, and again those are just a few examples, by no means an exhaustive list. I think to say that blaming all the existing racial inequality that exists in American society on the fact that there was racism in the past is just trying to willfully ignore the facts of the present.
User avatar #294 - krobeles (04/07/2015) [-]
Precisely. This study is useless.
It doesn't matter that they're paid less for less work. So long as they have the same opportunities that everyone else has, thats entirely fair.

Of course thats sorta not the case in America, where education costs money and the non-whites are historically less inclined to have money than the whites, so they're likely to also have less opportunity and less education. Since whites opressed none-whites in the past, and it is because of this opression that the non-whites are still inclined to impoverished, the 'opression' today can be seen as an extention of the opression then, and therefore the opression has not ceased. That is actually very true. I had not thought of that.

Of course this could all be remedied by simply making education free, as we have here in Europe. Frankly, there are numerous issues unique to the United States that seem so trivial and distant as to be non-existant here in Europe. I really say anything other than: You're probably correct, given America as a frame of referance.
#298 - vaalkyrie (04/07/2015) [-]
I'm European too haha. But to me de jure equality is very far from de facto equality. It is a kind of self-perpetuating cycle in which minorities do less well paid jobs because they never received a high standard of education, and consequentially they cant provide the same opportunities for their chioldren as white parents, ergo the white children do better than their minority counterparts so they go to better universities, then get better jobs, earn more money and they can provide better for their children. I struggle to see how the study is irrelevant, it just proves that minorities earn FAR less on average than whites, which i see as an issue.
User avatar #305 - krobeles (04/07/2015) [-]
Why is it an issue? Essentially, the question that we ask in Europe is; "Are you willing to work hard and recieve lots of money as compensation for your hard work?". Assuming that the numbers in the link you provded - which was an American study, as far as I can decern - hold true for the average European country, that would only prove that white people has on avrage answered "Yes! I am willing to work hard!" while the average non-white has gone "Nah". If anything, it proves that non-whites are lazy.
We have free education here, with mandatory basic education. Even if you're born to the shittiest of shitty poor parents in the lowest income imaginable, you can still get that basic bit of mandatory education - hell, that one bit is still being forced on you. After that, its up to yourself if you wish to continue on our free higher education. I dont know if this is the case in every other European countries, but students actually get paid to study here in Denmark. I've been living on my own in my nations capital for almost two years solely on what the state gives me just for attending my facillity of higher education. Literally the only barrier to entry, is your own personal willingness to work your ass off doing what is asked of you. Nobody here cares if you're black, white, yellow or fucking blue! All we care about, is that you're willing to work.
The income of the parents has literally no bearing on any of that. My parents aren't poor, but they certainly aren't rich. I was never supported heavily in a financial way by my parents and I was never supported in an academic way by them either, because none of them are academics! My mom is even a bloody immigrant from Finland, where she lived in a small ass village in the fucking woods! In what world does the income of the parents factor into it, when the system is entirely free??

If I sound a bit aggravated, I am sorry. I am just very perplexed by how a person can claim that the income of the parents factors into a system that doesn't use that income as a variable in any way at all.
#165 - As I said - if you'de bother to read and actually think about … 04/07/2015 on Reverse-Racism 0
#254 - I think this stems from a disconnect between how older people … 04/07/2015 on Old people +1
#44 - Sounds like you witnessed the allmighty power of God himself. … 04/07/2015 on Creating a Fire Tornado... +3
#63 - It takes a lifetime to reach a CEO position. I think we can al…  [+] (11 new replies) 04/07/2015 on Reverse-Racism +4
#258 - vaalkyrie (04/07/2015) [-]
Alright, fair enough but CEOs was just one point that you disprove. Recent figures show that African AMericans and Hispanics earn 65% and 61% respectively of white workers. This clearly isn't down to the fact that it takes time for change to be implemented. And sure there isn't the institutionalised racism that once existed, but that doesn't mean that people's perceptions have changed-in these situations affirmative action can be the only way to bring change, e.g guarenteeing job interviews for suitable minority candidates, as when people get a chance to articulate themselves face-to-face it is far easier to break down barriers for people who hold deep rooted stigmas.
User avatar #314 - articulate (04/07/2015) [-]
TL;DR
User avatar #270 - krobeles (04/07/2015) [-]
Are you abselutely sure you can trust those statistics? Have you about the "women earn 75 cents for every dollar a man makes" statistic? Do you want to know how that was found out? By calculating the average income of a woman versus the average income of a man, without considering the fact that women often hold lower-income jobs, due to nothing but their own desires. The women are the ones who decide - entirely independantly - that they wish to become social workers, teachers and midwives, while the men choose to become Bankers, professors and engineers. Since all the jobs that the men choose to get into pay better, of course the average man will be payed more than the average women. The statistic thusly fail to mention that a female banker/professor/engineer will be paid the same as a male banker/professor/engineer.

Lets apply this to the African American situation. Do you think its more likely that there are some nebelous force at work, that causes non-whites to be paid less? Or do you think the people who concocted that statistic are full of shit? I find it immensely hard to believe that the few black professors I've seen around my institute are paid less than the white ones.
And by the way, if we assume that your statistic has been fabricated on the same faulty terms as the "women earn less" statistic, then the cause can certainly be explained via "change takes time".
#274 - vaalkyrie (04/07/2015) [-]
www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0701.pdf
That is the source of my statistics. I don't mean that minorities get paid less for doing the SAME job, rather they, on average, earn less than their white counterparts. Sure, some of this probably still can be attributed to the fact that racism hasn't been removed from the system for all that long, but I don't believe that is an adequate response to the statistics. Minorities tend to take less well-paid jobs but this is generally rooted in the fact that they don't on average, go into higher education, read while young, have parents who are prepared to support their development to a great extent, and again those are just a few examples, by no means an exhaustive list. I think to say that blaming all the existing racial inequality that exists in American society on the fact that there was racism in the past is just trying to willfully ignore the facts of the present.
User avatar #294 - krobeles (04/07/2015) [-]
Precisely. This study is useless.
It doesn't matter that they're paid less for less work. So long as they have the same opportunities that everyone else has, thats entirely fair.

Of course thats sorta not the case in America, where education costs money and the non-whites are historically less inclined to have money than the whites, so they're likely to also have less opportunity and less education. Since whites opressed none-whites in the past, and it is because of this opression that the non-whites are still inclined to impoverished, the 'opression' today can be seen as an extention of the opression then, and therefore the opression has not ceased. That is actually very true. I had not thought of that.

Of course this could all be remedied by simply making education free, as we have here in Europe. Frankly, there are numerous issues unique to the United States that seem so trivial and distant as to be non-existant here in Europe. I really say anything other than: You're probably correct, given America as a frame of referance.
#298 - vaalkyrie (04/07/2015) [-]
I'm European too haha. But to me de jure equality is very far from de facto equality. It is a kind of self-perpetuating cycle in which minorities do less well paid jobs because they never received a high standard of education, and consequentially they cant provide the same opportunities for their chioldren as white parents, ergo the white children do better than their minority counterparts so they go to better universities, then get better jobs, earn more money and they can provide better for their children. I struggle to see how the study is irrelevant, it just proves that minorities earn FAR less on average than whites, which i see as an issue.
User avatar #305 - krobeles (04/07/2015) [-]
Why is it an issue? Essentially, the question that we ask in Europe is; "Are you willing to work hard and recieve lots of money as compensation for your hard work?". Assuming that the numbers in the link you provded - which was an American study, as far as I can decern - hold true for the average European country, that would only prove that white people has on avrage answered "Yes! I am willing to work hard!" while the average non-white has gone "Nah". If anything, it proves that non-whites are lazy.
We have free education here, with mandatory basic education. Even if you're born to the shittiest of shitty poor parents in the lowest income imaginable, you can still get that basic bit of mandatory education - hell, that one bit is still being forced on you. After that, its up to yourself if you wish to continue on our free higher education. I dont know if this is the case in every other European countries, but students actually get paid to study here in Denmark. I've been living on my own in my nations capital for almost two years solely on what the state gives me just for attending my facillity of higher education. Literally the only barrier to entry, is your own personal willingness to work your ass off doing what is asked of you. Nobody here cares if you're black, white, yellow or fucking blue! All we care about, is that you're willing to work.
The income of the parents has literally no bearing on any of that. My parents aren't poor, but they certainly aren't rich. I was never supported heavily in a financial way by my parents and I was never supported in an academic way by them either, because none of them are academics! My mom is even a bloody immigrant from Finland, where she lived in a small ass village in the fucking woods! In what world does the income of the parents factor into it, when the system is entirely free??

If I sound a bit aggravated, I am sorry. I am just very perplexed by how a person can claim that the income of the parents factors into a system that doesn't use that income as a variable in any way at all.
User avatar #142 - ericzxvc (04/07/2015) [-]
Oh please, if we have equal opportunity then why is it that only 1.5% of the top 2000 performing companies have female CEOs. You can't seriously believe that that number is a product of "equal opportunity". The wold we live in still hasn't completely acclimated to women possibly being in positions above men, there's a reason men still have a problem with their wives earning more then them.
And if you were unaware, wealth breeds wealth, it is very rare for someone in the lower class to transition to the upper class. And since the majority of wealthy people are white, it stays that way, and the cycle of them staying in power continues, so something has to be done to allow the people who are deserving of a position to rise above someone who's Daddy happens to know the CEO.
User avatar #165 - krobeles (04/07/2015) [-]
As I said - if you'de bother to read and actually think about what I wrote - was that such things take time. If you go back to 1950, that margain was probably at 0%. If you jump ahead to 2070, the percentage will probably be alot higher since they've had time to reach high positions.
It is entirely and certainly the product of equal opportunity, but not nessesarily equal wish. Women generally have less of a desire to lord over others, where that is a very male wish. Most men have some innate wish to be superior to others and lord over them, so they push themselves into positions where this is the case. Women generally dont have that lust for power and dominance, so they dont push themselves as hard to get into such positions. That is also the reson men have a problem with their wives earning more than them. That means they're - in some small way - subserviant to their wives. They dont like being subserviant to anyone, so of course thats a problem for them too, when its their wives they are subserviant to.

I agree, it is rare for somebody in the lower class to transition to the upper class, but that doesn't mean they dont have the opportunity to do so. It just means its not very often that they do. I come from a family where my dad was a school drop-out, and my mom never even went to high school. I am taking my physics degree now, something that is likely to land in "the upper class".
Would I have had the same opprtunity if I were a female? Sure. Would I have had the same drive to learn and would it have been in physics? I dont know. Maybe. Maybe not. Probably not, given the statistic. Given the statistic, it would've been in a language or an other humanities degree, which is unlikely to land me anywhere near the "upper class".

It is very true that the majority of women end up elsewhere than the "upper class", but that doesn't mean they dont have the opportunity.
#83 - anonymous (04/07/2015) [-]
Finally, someone gets it.
It wasn't until recently that women were even taken seriously, those that truely have freedom have barely finished Uni, of course they're not going to be CEO's or in high powered positions yet.
Give it another 20-50 years and there'll be a lot more, trouble is it'll get to that point and the feminazi's will think it's something they accomplished rather than something that would've happened naturally anyway.

Females don't need favouring if as they themselves say they're just as good as men. Why do we need special treatment?

Many women aren't interested in a career and the life goal is marriage or children. Or just loads of kids because benefits. Many women find having to work to be too hard.
That being said, women aren't encouraged to be dominant from as soon as they're born really. High power jobs require a dominant or strong personality and if a girl shows these traits they're still told to not be like that and to be more ladylike.

A woman with a 'strong personality' is deemed cold, frigid and bitch and no one likes her. A guy has the same personality and he's a motivated, independent thinker who can get shit done.
#259 - vaalkyrie (04/07/2015) [-]
This just kind of highlights a need for change in perceptions. So even if women are as well qualified and suited for jobs they are dismissed because these qualities make them unattractive? Something has to change there
#163 - I've been told, I threw my pacifier at my mom, during her wedd… 04/07/2015 on Kid Shaming 0
#56 - I've made a habit of deleting people from my facebook, who hav… 04/06/2015 on Look at my baby! Look at my... +1
#103 - Well. That corpse aint gonna rape itself, sonny! 04/06/2015 on Feels 0
#46 - Heh, alright. I'm from Denmark myself, so I'm partaking in the…  [+] (2 new replies) 04/02/2015 on Well then 0
User avatar #61 - infernis (04/02/2015) [-]
Well, for instance, there's this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Germany#The_right_to_collect_church_tax , the so-called "Kirchensteuer", which is unique to Germany, if I'm not mistaken.
Reply
#59 - infernis has deleted their comment.
#42 - Dude, every other donation is taxed. If I inherit **** …  [+] (5 new replies) 04/02/2015 on Well then 0
User avatar #76 - IamSofaKingdom (04/02/2015) [-]
They don't want the church to have influence on anything political, which makes sense to me. If the church is required to fund the government through taxes, how can they justify excluding it in major political decisions or backing political figures? They will have to allow churches, to some extent, to influence the government decisions, which they don't want.
#45 - infernis (04/02/2015) [-]
I actually don't have an opinion on this, as both sides seem to have valid points and I'm from Germany, where the system is entirely different to begin with, but I'm interested in the discussion.
User avatar #46 - krobeles (04/02/2015) [-]
Heh, alright. I'm from Denmark myself, so I'm partaking in the discussion as intellectual exercise, more than any actual need to convince people. Its a very minor issue here, and its honestly a stretch to call it an "issue" at all.

How does it work in Germany?
User avatar #61 - infernis (04/02/2015) [-]
Well, for instance, there's this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Germany#The_right_to_collect_church_tax , the so-called "Kirchensteuer", which is unique to Germany, if I'm not mistaken.
Reply
#59 - infernis has deleted their comment.
#35 - You're a pretty huge faggot, aren't you? I enjoy you…  [+] (1 new reply) 04/02/2015 on Well then -2
#121 - lordraine (04/02/2015) [-]
Look who just blew in from r/atheism.

You didn't even tip your fedora as you left. 0/10, you aren't even trying.
#7 - I remember going out and kidnapping baby birds, when I was a c…  [+] (4 new replies) 04/02/2015 on All life is precious +29
User avatar #16 - SeverusSnapeFan (04/03/2015) [-]
You may be a serial killer later on.
User avatar #14 - vyrthur (04/02/2015) [-]
I used to dissect little lizards I found around the outer lamps in my year during summer where they usually fed off of insects, I would grab them and squeeze their skulls until their eyes popped out so I could play with them as marbles Don't worry lad, a lot of us were fucked up as kids, Hells Halls open wide for us if that makes you feel any better
User avatar #13 - megashot (04/02/2015) [-]
On a completely unrelated note, the fact that you type ''i'de'' is giving me a stroke.
User avatar #12 - needsauceadmisblan (04/02/2015) [-]
well at least you arent anymore
i hope
#57 - Dont let that get you down, man. You just have to know wh… 04/02/2015 on OC 0
#53 - > inevitably get rejected Why, man? What're you d…  [+] (2 new replies) 04/02/2015 on OC 0
User avatar #54 - komandantmirkoo (04/02/2015) [-]
let's just say i'm not easy on the eyes.
User avatar #57 - krobeles (04/02/2015) [-]
Dont let that get you down, man.
You just have to know when to pick your battles. if you're something of an eye sour, then getting drunk and picking up chicks at bars probably isn't the thing for you. Try going to a private party where you can get a chance to actually talk to a person. If you have some decent wit and humor, your looks dont matter, as long as you just have a chance to show that wit and humor, something you rarely have at clubs and bars.

I'm kinda in the same bout myself. I'de like to think I'm not ugly enough that it detracts any, but I'm certainly not handsom enough that it alone can win me many favors. I actually cant remember the last time I went to a private party without ending up making out with some chick, but I've only ever picked up a chick at a bar once in my entire life...Not for lack of trying, mind you...
#49 - Even the infinite power of imagination, cant un-beta you, I'm afraid.  [+] (4 new replies) 04/02/2015 on OC +1
User avatar #50 - komandantmirkoo (04/02/2015) [-]
true. but beer can. about 7-8 beers and im loose enough to talk to women and not feel like shit when i inevitably get rejected
User avatar #53 - krobeles (04/02/2015) [-]
> inevitably get rejected

Why, man? What're you doing wrong?
User avatar #54 - komandantmirkoo (04/02/2015) [-]
let's just say i'm not easy on the eyes.
User avatar #57 - krobeles (04/02/2015) [-]
Dont let that get you down, man.
You just have to know when to pick your battles. if you're something of an eye sour, then getting drunk and picking up chicks at bars probably isn't the thing for you. Try going to a private party where you can get a chance to actually talk to a person. If you have some decent wit and humor, your looks dont matter, as long as you just have a chance to show that wit and humor, something you rarely have at clubs and bars.

I'm kinda in the same bout myself. I'de like to think I'm not ugly enough that it detracts any, but I'm certainly not handsom enough that it alone can win me many favors. I actually cant remember the last time I went to a private party without ending up making out with some chick, but I've only ever picked up a chick at a bar once in my entire life...Not for lack of trying, mind you...

items

Total unique items point value: 2050 / Total items point value: 2250

Comments(58):

[ 58 comments ]
What do you think? Give us your opinion. Anonymous comments allowed.
#72 - krobeles (12/12/2014) [-]
Comment Picture
User avatar #62 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
Now you wanna be civil?! Where did that come from? Fine, we'll have a discussion.

Women have to fear death too. Like, usually the fear of rape comes with the fear of death. And you can argue what you did when it comes to gangs messing with guys on the street, but that's the same for women by other women. Like, I know some girls who get messed with by the Latin Kings because they're Hispanic girls. I do not see how these issues even out. Maybe quantitatively, but not when it comes to the level of danger and effect. But if they did (and please clarify for me with legitimate examples), these issues have one thing in common: notions of masculinity, whether it be inter-gendered or intra-gendered. Those guys that beat you up started messing you because they thought you looked like a faggot. That's a hierarchy of sex right there: straight males have the right to attack homosexual males in an attempt to display their masculinity. Men are affected negatively by notions of masculinity also, but the effect of masculinity on males is seen more in the male treatment of women. And these notions of masculinity, while also in part perpetuated by women, are largely and more easily perpetuated by men. This is why feminism is here, and this is why women are more affected than men: men are taught masculinity, which shapes them as people and shapes their treatment of women, which leads to women taking more of the damage than men.

This is not creating a culture of victims. This is giving people something tangible to fight against. Naming a common cause of this type of gendered violence allows the fight to be fought more realistically. Naming a more specific root of a problem is more effective than just generalizing everything because violence is born and molded in different ways.

You're right about more women being accepted into universities, but when it comes to professional studies (law school, med school, etc.) less women are being accepted.

Hold on. I'm not done.
User avatar #63 to #62 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
A flaw of feminism is that there is not enough discussion on the oppression faced by people experiencing the intersectionality of being minority and a woman. That's in part why womanism was born, but many feminists incorporate intersectionality into their beliefs.

And that story about your mom? One success story doesn't mean equality. Many of the women in my family immigrated from Mexico and became pregnant as teenagers. Many of the women in my family were also raped or molested. My grandmother was beaten by her husband, and many of the women in my family and in this culture are expected to stay in the house and fulfill their roles as women. This isn't just limited to my family, it's everywhere. These issues do exist.
User avatar #64 to #63 - krobeles (08/30/2014) [-]
Alright, lets try something alittle different.
We can agree that women face some issues, yes? We can also agree that men face some issues, yes? We can furthermore agree that they share a number of common issues and that atleast a few of them share a common cause? If we can agree on this, why are we having this discussion in the frame of womens issues and why is the movement called Feminism?

To a degree, I agree with you on the masculinity thing. I have this skirt that I think I love just lovely in, but I rarely find it aproriate to wear that, because I know what people will think of a dude in a skirt. And thats sort of my issue with the feminist movement. I am not saying that women dont face issues and I am not saying the issues they do face are allways insignificant. But forming a humanitarian movement which attacks a grand social problem, but to face solely on the issues faced by one gender, is subtle sexism in and of itself.

Its also important to note that assholes and idiots will always exist. I see alot of these feminists attacking the "How not to get raped" things, with stupid ******** like "Dont teach women not to get raped, teach not to rape!", which is just silly.
We could apply this logic to common acts and thievery and see it fall apart. "Dont tell me to lock my door, tell thieves not to rob my house!". It is true that thieves and thugs never have the right to rob/rape you, but if you dont take steps to pretend and desentavise them from doing so, then you automatically forfiet a small part of your right to complain.
And in that same regard, I dont go around spouting ******** like "Teach people not to assault men people in skirts with long hair!", I just accept that such savage behavior is inherent in some particularily nasty people, and find ways to prevent it myself. I own a few weapons in my home, and I know a basic few things of self defence.

I dont believe that feminism gives women "something tangible to fight against". It provides a nebulous threat of the ominous "Patriarchy" and "Male-opression" to fight against. Since the easily explained (very dumbed down) cause this is white males, you suddenly have alot of these women who feel disenfranchised and run-down, who suddenly find something to point at and go "Thats the cause of all my problems!". Since they've forgotten to mention that the thing they're fighting against hurts all parts of society equally, these women never really stop to consider if perhaps they're attacking the problem from the wrong angle or if they're attacking the wrong people.

Just as you say that one success story doesn't a trend make, I dont feel like your family experience is anymore valid an example. Rot festers in places in which it is not cleaned out, and if there has been an unfortunate trend in your family of abuse, then it is a given that it will continue unless someone makes an effort to cut out the rot.

Ultimately, what I said about feminism not not attacking the right issues can be linked to this. If what you claim happened to your family is the general trend amongst Mexican/African famillies, then that is a serious problem which needs to taken care of. However, it seems to me that the general feminist movement are far more interested in applying their efforts towards comparatively harmless videogames and TV-shows, which are totally and entirely insignificant in comparison to actual family abuse and rape.

This leads me to believe that the new feminist movement isn't really about equality, but rather just a fandom-esque circlejerk in which its members are more concerned with the tiny minute issues they might concievably face, rather the actual big and serious issues which actually needs their attention.

Well, to comment on the civil discussion thing, taking a few minutes to play a game of tower defence, and making a conceded effort to appear less of an angry shouty person in order to facillitate more constructive debate, does its thing rather well. Also, I largely view insults and shouty-debates as a form of humor. So long as I'm just trying to trying to get a rail out of people, I insult them. Theres a certain art to a well constructed and imaginative insult, I find. However, if the says or does something that belies the potential for actually interesting debate, its another matter entirely.
User avatar #65 to #64 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
We're having this discussion in the frame of women's issues because it does effect women in a more detrimental way and it *is* more perpetuated by men. I mentioned that men go through oppressions also, like the pressure to be masculine, but many of those pressures are self-perpetuated and the result is displayed in their relationships toward women. And it is called feminism because femininity is not limited to women. It is not subscribed to one gender or sex.

The concept of a humanitarian movement is good in theory, but there's issues in that we wouldn't be able to prevent the perpetuation of oppression without knowing where it comes from. Let's take gangs as an example. A lot of inner city groups are preaching to kids that "violence is bad," something everyone has been hearing for the longest time. However, things like this aren't working. What works instead is legislation that targets poverty and expands opportunity and education, which is keeping kids off the street. We can have a whole anti-violence movement, but fighting violence in general is too grand of a scale to address realistically. Narrowing down oppression allows us to take the fight one step at a time. Not to mention that forming groups like these also give people a sense of community in what they're facing.

Hold on I"m not done
User avatar #66 to #65 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
Okay, honestly with the "don't teach women how to not get raped, teach not to rape" thing, I only agree 50%. Yeah, we do have to put more of the focus in preventing sexual assault on the perpetrator, but we also need to teach everyone how to stay safe and stay away from risky behaviors in a way that doesn't result in someone saying, "well, she was hanging with the wrong crowd, so maybe she wouldn't have gotten raped if she wasn't where she was" or something like that. Victims see enough of a reason to blame themselves without stuff like this being said. And if by "complain" you mean be angry or upset, then you do still have a right to complain, because while steps could have been taken to prevent stuff like this, the perpetrator could have *not* raped the victim. You mention "teach people not to assault men in skirts with long hair." While I am sorry you were assaulted, and while this should NOT have happened to you, there is no trend of men wearing skirts and getting assaulted. There is a big trend of women and men getting raped by males though.

Feminism exists past the internet, past funnyjunk, past 4chan and past tumblr. Don't make the mistake of wrongly labeling a whole group of people because of popular opinion on these websites. True feminists are not attacking anyone. White males are pointed at (not attacked) as a cause because (1) they have the most power in society, and (2) the fact that most don't have to deal with discrimination based on sex, race or gender creates a feeling of disdain in the white male community for these people that are fighting these issues. Honestly, that's how it is. If you're more exposed to racism, you'd care more about ending it. The same goes with sexism. I mean, look at funnyjunk. The largest community here is white, male and straight. Look at how much easier this anti-feminism thing floated compared to a place like tumblr, where a good fraction of the users are female and not white.

Hold on
User avatar #67 to #66 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
I was wary about mentioning my family, but I thought it was okay since I don't know you and you don't know me. I can assure you that these issues are not limited to my family, and please refrain from comparing them to "rot," even if you do see it as fit.

The grand feminist movement is not focused on video games and such. The internet/tumblr feminist movement is. And I definitely wouldn't argue these video games and whatever are harmless. I'm gonna make a cliche argument, but just because it's cliche doesn't mean it's not true: it hurts self esteem. Seeing all these sexy girls in video games, music videos, and everywhere else in the ******* media sucks. Seeing guys drool over those girls also sucks. Women are oversexualized and we're pressured to look like them. It's cliche but it's true.

Feminism is not a circle jerk. I'm just saying feminism concerns more than tumblr and the internet.

Okay now I'm done
User avatar #68 to #67 - krobeles (08/30/2014) [-]
The thing about teaching people "not to rape" though, is that that is impossible. As I said, there will allways be assholes, and they know full well that rape is wrong. They just dont care, because they're egotistical asshats.
I was just useing myself as an example (I've never been assaulted while wearing the skirt, actually), of something that would be equally silly.
Of course you still have some right to complain - it is still wrong to rape or assault people regardless of what they wear or how they behave - but you have to admit that the complaint falls alot shorter if the person in question took active steps to put himself/herself in harms way to begin with?
You could liken it to a person climbing onto a scaffolding and then falling down and breaks both legs. Is it regrettable that the person fell and broke both legs? Yes. Was it rather expected, based on circumstance and the poor safety measure the person had set up? Yes.

I am not so sure about the "Feminism exists past the internet"-thing. Of course it is reasonable to assume that there is the odd feminist every now and again, but on a grander scale, the only people I've ever met who claimed themselves feminists is two girls who associate with the Tumblr crowd on the internet. They're more a physical extension of the internet-Tumblr-feminists than actual feminists. Other than them, I've never anyone who claimed themselves feminist. It might because all of what you've happened is more of an issue in the states, than it is in Denmark, but it still doesn't do much to make me convinced that actual - none-Tumblr - feminists actually exists.
This is why I largely allow the Tumblr-feminists view to be indicative of all feminists. I've never met a non-tumblr feminists in all my 21 years, and I therefor dont really have faith that they exist outside of the internet.

Which is actually another thing I've come to consider. Since many of the Tumblr feminists seem to be American and preoccupised with strictly American issues, I am starting to consider that perhaps America might suffer infinitely more from these issues discriminatory issues than the European countries (Well, Denmark, atleast). But I dont see the Tumblr-feminists treating it as an American problem dispite the fact that it might be a strictly American problem. This comes back to what I mentioned with the feminists being an angry hate-club which're just looking for their next big issue to be offended over. I'm sure that if they stopped for five minutes and looked at some of the silly things they get offended over, they would see how silly it is. Instead though, they're much too busy yelling and shouting angryly at game developers, who had the audacity to make their female character busty.

I wasn't comparing your family to rot. I was comparing the aparent trend of violence and rape to rot. Just because a person commits a rotten action, does not a rotten person make. I actually intended to write something along those lines in my comment, but I must've forgot. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.

As I explained above, I dont think that there really is a true divide between "the grand feminist movement" and the tumblr feminists.
If the video game thing hurts the self esteem of some people, then I honestly think that they those need to grow a spine, sorry to say. There are dudes in video games too, who are insanely buff and masculin beyond anything realistic. The dudes that aren't, are insanely intelligent and sucessful in busness or whatever. Should men be offended at this depiction of dudes?
Thats why we call it fiction. Its not suposed to be taken as seriously as some feminists do and claim other women do as well. Its an idealized version of a woman marketet to a predominantly white male teen audience. What do you think sells well with white teenage dudes? Tits, of course. Its not a question of discrimination or objectification, its a question of marketing. White teenage guys likes tits, so the corporations gives them tits.
Add this to the fact that almost all of my female friends I've asked directly if they feel offended or objectified by fictional works, says they find it silly and of course they dont. I think this problem lies with the self-esteem of the people who complain about it. Its not that these images and materials cause bad self esteem in women, its that these images remind women who allready suffer from bad self esteem, how ****** they feel about themselves. Sorry if this seems a bit cynical; but we cant pander to a group of mentally ill people, who complain about something no person with proper self esteem and self image would find the least bit offensive. The lowest common denominator should not dictate the direction the crowd moves.
This is not to say that I nessesarily condone the way females are portrayed in games and general media. I think they hamstrings themselves, by reducing females in the way they do. This goes for men aswell. No interesting plots are going to arise from a story in which all females are card-board cutouts with latex tits plastered onto, and all males are gruff handsom flawless Adonis wanna-bes who can solve 3rd grade differential equations in their heads while bench pressing 4 times their own weight.
Outside of the detrimental effects to storytelling that it has, I cant view this as anything other than one of those silly null-issues I complain about the feminists being all too keen to focus on, while ignoring the grander problems.

I dont believe that men systematically opress women. Not here in the rest anyway. Those in power opress those not in power. Its been like that forever and it'll likely continue to be like that a long time into the future too. A good bunch of those in power are white males, which is a left-over from a time in which white males did actually opress everyone not white and not male. Non-white non-males just haven't had the chance to bleed up through the molasses-like power structure that we've instituted. Thats not opression, thats just a matter of fact.

I feel like you handicap the conversation by framing it this context, when what you're really complaining about is a grander social problem, not singularily suffered by women. It would be like discussing war casualties as a mens issue, because the majority of soldiers are men. Dont you think the female soldiers would be slightly pissed off, about the fact that they're role and their pains in the army is effectively being ignored?

User avatar #69 to #68 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
See? No. It shouldn't matter if people took "active steps to put themselves in harm's way." We're way to focused on that. If "harm's way" qualifies as being with a man late at night, than that vilifies men way more than anything else. We need to teach people not to rape. And rape is a preventable thing, because the main reason men--and yes, the majority of perpetrators are men--rape is because they want to feel power. Power, of course, is a characteristic of masculinity. The male need to feel power is the male need to feel masculine. Again, the reason this whole feminism thing exists is to fight trends. There is a trend of men who rape. The is a trend of women getting raped. There is a trend of masculinity being pushed by men and there is a trend of men needing to feel power. This is not silly.
The connection to the scaffolding isn't valid because there is no perpetrator. An accident is different than flat out assault. You cannot, by any means, blame a victim like that. No one deserves rape and we shouldn't treat any case as lesser because "she was wearing a skirt too short" or "she was out with the wrong crowd." That's always the first thing people think about--what the girl was doing wrong--rather than why the guy raped her or what he shouldn't have done. And how many times can guys catch themselves doing the same thing with no consequence? Men can be out late at night with women. Men can walk around with no shirt and not be raped. It just happens on a much larger scale with women.

hold on
User avatar #70 to #69 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
A big part of the feminism we're discussing is feminism in America. I can definitely contest that feminism exists outside of the internet. I know many feminists who are not using social networks in their practice at all. There are many thinkers--bell hooks, for example--that are held up to a high standard and that would disagree with the things that the "tumblr feminists" say. If you really aren't exposed to this group and are actually ignorant to it, then how can this part of your argument have a good foundation?

There is a problem with that. You mention a white male audience when it comes to video games, but about half of the gaming audience is women. And women are sexualized more in games, that's just it. I'll take Resident Evil as an example. Leon and Chris have big muscles, yes, but look at the females in the game. Clare is wearing tight clothes and whatever, but what bothers me most is that in every RE games she's in, the camera focuses on her ass and pans up her body at least like 3 times per game. And look at Ada (if you never played these games you should google these characters). She runs around in a ******* long red, sexy dress and high heels in RE4, and it is clear that Leon is caught in a spell because of her. It's always Leon sexualizing her, not the other way around. And the villains in RE. The majority of the male villains are old men, like Salazar in RE4 and Birkin in the Darkside Chronicles--while the female villains are like, almost naked and sexy in a weird monster way. But if you still think that "males are just as sexualized as females," and if you have a problem with it, say something. Don't get mad at other people for saying something they have a problem with by claiming you have a problem with something else--fix it.
And all of this oversexualization is related to MASCULINITY. That's what I've been saying. The oversexualization of men is also related to masculinity and the idea that men can't be heroes unless they're masculine. hold on
User avatar #71 to #70 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
These video games enforce these notions of masculinity both ways and in turn enforce notions of power. It's all about the mindset these things perpetuate.

It is oppression because it is a matter of fact. That's how ingrained it is--we believe we can't fight it. You can't say oppression doesn't exist, even in places like America, because there is a type of person that succeeds and there is a type of person that doesn't, and it mostly doesn't boil down to laziness or true inferiority. It's about who's "at risk" to fail and who's not "at risk." Not everyone has equal opportunity and not everyone is born to the same circumstances, and it mostly depends on race, class and gender, and that's why these individual tiers have individual activism groups. We can't just say "well people are always gonna be oppressed" and not do anything about it, because no where in America's history (and hardly anywhere in world history) were white, straight males oppressed. Everyone else was.

For the last part of your argument, again, females are more negatively affected by this. Masculinity is related to power and sex and it is displayed in the male treatment of women. I've addressed this already.
User avatar #42 - revengeforfreeze (11/06/2013) [-]
yYOUS AN BRON?!
User avatar #43 to #42 - krobeles (11/06/2013) [-]
ehm, say what now??
User avatar #44 to #43 - revengeforfreeze (11/09/2013) [-]
you're a brony?
User avatar #45 to #44 - krobeles (11/09/2013) [-]
I dont identify as one, no.
Why?
User avatar #46 to #45 - revengeforfreeze (11/09/2013) [-]
>joined ponytime
>posted pony content
User avatar #47 to #46 - krobeles (11/09/2013) [-]
So? That dosen't make me a brony. That makes a dude who watches My Little Pony.
I recon theres a differance.
User avatar #48 to #47 - revengeforfreeze (11/09/2013) [-]
well okay
i didnt know the difference tbh
User avatar #49 to #48 - krobeles (11/09/2013) [-]
Its more of a personal thing, actually.
I view the "Bronies" as the greezy fat neck bearded Otaku-wannabies who attend cons and cosplay girls.
I'm not one of those.
User avatar #51 to #50 - krobeles (11/09/2013) [-]
Why'de you ask anyway?
User avatar #52 to #51 - revengeforfreeze (11/09/2013) [-]
don tnkow.
User avatar #53 to #52 - krobeles (11/09/2013) [-]
Weeell...Aaalright then..G'day...
#33 - danzeebass **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
#32 - warlordvegeta **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #30 - gemleonn (12/21/2012) [-]
Why is it every time I go to someone's profile to call them a ****** , there's always some weird pony **** going on?
#28 - usernameiskill **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
#26 - verminator (12/21/2012) [-]
Sup ***** !
User avatar #23 - elitefourkoga (12/21/2012) [-]
You're a ****** , harry.
User avatar #22 - orx (12/21/2012) [-]
This ******** got some kinky **** on his profile.
User avatar #21 - swifterly (12/21/2012) [-]
****** .
User avatar #17 - nunc (12/21/2012) [-]
User avatar #16 - martiini (12/21/2012) [-]
Hey, ****** .
User avatar #15 - orx (12/21/2012) [-]
****** .
#13 to #12 - zonryu (10/26/2012) [-]
and the last one is of fluttershy as a witch
User avatar #14 to #13 - zonryu (10/26/2012) [-]
good day to you sir
[ 58 comments ]
Leave a comment
 Friends (0)