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krobeles

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Date Signed Up:8/08/2012
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#68 - Gonna have to ask the dude who made it. Its an old one, by Sha… 03/12/2015 on coco-cola 0
#67 - Its not that I dont care. Its that I find it hilarious when pe…  [+] (7 new replies) 03/12/2015 on coco-cola +1
User avatar #74 - madb (03/21/2015) [-]
we dont get upsett or offended. its just discusting. but offcourse you arent the problem its everyone else. faggot.
#75 - krobeles (03/22/2015) [-]
You're starting to get it now, little shitface!
Its precisely all of you little mung eating retards who are the issue. Well seen.

Does it feel good to attempt to seized the moral high ground? I bet it does, you delusional prick.
User avatar #76 - madb (03/22/2015) [-]
when the majority has a problem with one individual the individual is the problem, not the other way around. look at you're thumbs in this coment chain.
User avatar #77 - krobeles (03/22/2015) [-]
Wow. Thats the most close-minded and stupid thing I've heard all week.
Have you heard of Giordano Bruno? Was he the problem then?
You're a stupid fucking idiot.
User avatar #78 - madb (03/22/2015) [-]
if you are referencing that he is a mathematician and astrologer in a time where science was frowned upon then no because science is a fucking fact and there is nothing to argue about. if you are pushing you're discusging undege rape fetishes and the majority doesnt like it then you are a problem. fetishes can be percived as discusting but science is a fact. you're the fucking idiot here.
User avatar #79 - krobeles (03/22/2015) [-]
Its also a fact that these are drawings. If a drawing offends you, you're an idiot.
I am not trying to advocate for child rape fetishes. I am saying that taking offense at it, is a retarded thing to do.
My comparison with Bruno was merely to show you how insanely retarded your previous statement was.
User avatar #80 - madb (03/22/2015) [-]
talking about insanely retarded. being discusted by something is not the same as being offended. it has nothing to do with being offended but the fact that it is litarely uncomfertable to look at.
#46 - I appreciate that, comming from a dude calling himself "d…  [+] (9 new replies) 03/12/2015 on coco-cola -14
#57 - gigidygrunt (03/12/2015) [-]
wow, you are hated.
i guess its a good thing you don't care
#67 - krobeles (03/12/2015) [-]
Its not that I dont care. Its that I find it hilarious when people get upset over pointless shit like this.
User avatar #74 - madb (03/21/2015) [-]
we dont get upsett or offended. its just discusting. but offcourse you arent the problem its everyone else. faggot.
#75 - krobeles (03/22/2015) [-]
You're starting to get it now, little shitface!
Its precisely all of you little mung eating retards who are the issue. Well seen.

Does it feel good to attempt to seized the moral high ground? I bet it does, you delusional prick.
User avatar #76 - madb (03/22/2015) [-]
when the majority has a problem with one individual the individual is the problem, not the other way around. look at you're thumbs in this coment chain.
User avatar #77 - krobeles (03/22/2015) [-]
Wow. Thats the most close-minded and stupid thing I've heard all week.
Have you heard of Giordano Bruno? Was he the problem then?
You're a stupid fucking idiot.
User avatar #78 - madb (03/22/2015) [-]
if you are referencing that he is a mathematician and astrologer in a time where science was frowned upon then no because science is a fucking fact and there is nothing to argue about. if you are pushing you're discusging undege rape fetishes and the majority doesnt like it then you are a problem. fetishes can be percived as discusting but science is a fact. you're the fucking idiot here.
User avatar #79 - krobeles (03/22/2015) [-]
Its also a fact that these are drawings. If a drawing offends you, you're an idiot.
I am not trying to advocate for child rape fetishes. I am saying that taking offense at it, is a retarded thing to do.
My comparison with Bruno was merely to show you how insanely retarded your previous statement was.
User avatar #80 - madb (03/22/2015) [-]
talking about insanely retarded. being discusted by something is not the same as being offended. it has nothing to do with being offended but the fact that it is litarely uncomfertable to look at.
#42 - Oh, dont be like that. Dont pretend you didn't fap.  [+] (11 new replies) 03/12/2015 on coco-cola -20
#45 - dyingalone (03/12/2015) [-]
You seem like a really chill guy
#46 - krobeles (03/12/2015) [-]
I appreciate that, comming from a dude calling himself "dyingalone".
And yes. I am very chill.
#57 - gigidygrunt (03/12/2015) [-]
wow, you are hated.
i guess its a good thing you don't care
#67 - krobeles (03/12/2015) [-]
Its not that I dont care. Its that I find it hilarious when people get upset over pointless shit like this.
User avatar #74 - madb (03/21/2015) [-]
we dont get upsett or offended. its just discusting. but offcourse you arent the problem its everyone else. faggot.
#75 - krobeles (03/22/2015) [-]
You're starting to get it now, little shitface!
Its precisely all of you little mung eating retards who are the issue. Well seen.

Does it feel good to attempt to seized the moral high ground? I bet it does, you delusional prick.
User avatar #76 - madb (03/22/2015) [-]
when the majority has a problem with one individual the individual is the problem, not the other way around. look at you're thumbs in this coment chain.
User avatar #77 - krobeles (03/22/2015) [-]
Wow. Thats the most close-minded and stupid thing I've heard all week.
Have you heard of Giordano Bruno? Was he the problem then?
You're a stupid fucking idiot.
User avatar #78 - madb (03/22/2015) [-]
if you are referencing that he is a mathematician and astrologer in a time where science was frowned upon then no because science is a fucking fact and there is nothing to argue about. if you are pushing you're discusging undege rape fetishes and the majority doesnt like it then you are a problem. fetishes can be percived as discusting but science is a fact. you're the fucking idiot here.
User avatar #79 - krobeles (03/22/2015) [-]
Its also a fact that these are drawings. If a drawing offends you, you're an idiot.
I am not trying to advocate for child rape fetishes. I am saying that taking offense at it, is a retarded thing to do.
My comparison with Bruno was merely to show you how insanely retarded your previous statement was.
User avatar #80 - madb (03/22/2015) [-]
talking about insanely retarded. being discusted by something is not the same as being offended. it has nothing to do with being offended but the fact that it is litarely uncomfertable to look at.
#31 - Pic related. An alternate version.  [+] (18 new replies) 03/12/2015 on coco-cola -50
#71 - thememegod (03/12/2015) [-]
based shadman
User avatar #69 - sammiamazon (03/12/2015) [-]
This is why shadman is only allowed to draw porn
#70 - krobeles (03/12/2015) [-]
Fuck off dude.
Shadman was way better back when it was a mix of gore and porn.
#61 - fucktheusername (03/12/2015) [-]
make a sex one
User avatar #68 - krobeles (03/12/2015) [-]
Gonna have to ask the dude who made it. Its an old one, by Shadman.
I'm no good with colors, anyway, and I tend to draw too many wrinkles and shit for my drawings to be even remotely attractive.
#41 - madb (03/12/2015) [-]
wtf bro
#42 - krobeles (03/12/2015) [-]
Oh, dont be like that. Dont pretend you didn't fap.
#45 - dyingalone (03/12/2015) [-]
You seem like a really chill guy
#46 - krobeles (03/12/2015) [-]
I appreciate that, comming from a dude calling himself "dyingalone".
And yes. I am very chill.
#57 - gigidygrunt (03/12/2015) [-]
wow, you are hated.
i guess its a good thing you don't care
#67 - krobeles (03/12/2015) [-]
Its not that I dont care. Its that I find it hilarious when people get upset over pointless shit like this.
User avatar #74 - madb (03/21/2015) [-]
we dont get upsett or offended. its just discusting. but offcourse you arent the problem its everyone else. faggot.
#75 - krobeles (03/22/2015) [-]
You're starting to get it now, little shitface!
Its precisely all of you little mung eating retards who are the issue. Well seen.

Does it feel good to attempt to seized the moral high ground? I bet it does, you delusional prick.
User avatar #76 - madb (03/22/2015) [-]
when the majority has a problem with one individual the individual is the problem, not the other way around. look at you're thumbs in this coment chain.
User avatar #77 - krobeles (03/22/2015) [-]
Wow. Thats the most close-minded and stupid thing I've heard all week.
Have you heard of Giordano Bruno? Was he the problem then?
You're a stupid fucking idiot.
User avatar #78 - madb (03/22/2015) [-]
if you are referencing that he is a mathematician and astrologer in a time where science was frowned upon then no because science is a fucking fact and there is nothing to argue about. if you are pushing you're discusging undege rape fetishes and the majority doesnt like it then you are a problem. fetishes can be percived as discusting but science is a fact. you're the fucking idiot here.
User avatar #79 - krobeles (03/22/2015) [-]
Its also a fact that these are drawings. If a drawing offends you, you're an idiot.
I am not trying to advocate for child rape fetishes. I am saying that taking offense at it, is a retarded thing to do.
My comparison with Bruno was merely to show you how insanely retarded your previous statement was.
User avatar #80 - madb (03/22/2015) [-]
talking about insanely retarded. being discusted by something is not the same as being offended. it has nothing to do with being offended but the fact that it is litarely uncomfertable to look at.
#149 - What did he do, to get suspended?? 03/11/2015 on Clarkson After Getting... 0
#408 - Ah. Well, to answer your question: She was told she had good b… 03/11/2015 on drawstrings 0
#341 - I really love how sincere she sounds, as she recites her 'poet… 03/11/2015 on Yeah art 0
#406 - Why would you reply to a comment thats that old? How did y…  [+] (2 new replies) 03/11/2015 on drawstrings 0
#407 - atma (03/11/2015) [-]
I did a search for "hips" because I was trying to find this content and the artist.
User avatar #408 - krobeles (03/11/2015) [-]
Ah. Well, to answer your question: She was told she had good birthing hips, by the army doctor. Freaked her the fuck out, that a stranger commented on her abillity to give birth.
#119 - Its a sort of series, though there is only a vague continuity … 03/10/2015 on short women are best women +1
#238 - No. I've never seen that in my entire life. Sounds like t…  [+] (1 new reply) 03/10/2015 on fucking kids -1
User avatar #240 - blueboysixnine (03/10/2015) [-]
You have never seen that in your life? god damn
#233 - And you dont believe such a message could be conveyed through …  [+] (7 new replies) 03/10/2015 on fucking kids -1
User avatar #236 - blueboysixnine (03/10/2015) [-]
You ever see in the streets the mother telling the child not to do something, but the child keeps doing it because he knows nothing bad is going to happen and that he can get away with it, yet the mother keeps saying "no, don't do that, no, that's bad, stop, stop doing that or else" with no real effect? I see it all the time. if she followed through with a smack or any sort of punishment at all, that little shit wouldn't think he can get away with it scott free
#246 - luxuriously (03/10/2015) [-]
I have. The kid shut up right when he was smacked.

I've also seen a child shut up the moment he was told to because he knew his uncle was looking out for him and was right. and because the child looked up to the uncle and respected him without the need of violence.
User avatar #249 - blueboysixnine (03/10/2015) [-]
Both valid points. Although what's with the dislike on my bewilderment that someone has never seen a kid acting like a little shit before?
#250 - luxuriously (03/10/2015) [-]
disliked the wrong comment.
User avatar #251 - blueboysixnine (03/10/2015) [-]
GG
User avatar #238 - krobeles (03/10/2015) [-]
No. I've never seen that in my entire life.
Sounds like there are alot of really shitty parents around your parts.
User avatar #240 - blueboysixnine (03/10/2015) [-]
You have never seen that in your life? god damn
#227 - My problem with spanking isn't the violence. Its the fact that…  [+] (9 new replies) 03/10/2015 on fucking kids 0
User avatar #230 - blueboysixnine (03/10/2015) [-]
That's why you don't give vague explanations. you tell them that throwing a tantrum in the shopping centre bothers other people and it wont help to get your way. if they continue to do it they will get a smack. if they continue to do it, they get a smack. It teaches them that if they don't behave then there are consequences for their actions. after some time they will most likely forget the fact that throwing a tantrum = a smack, but believe that throwing a tantrum is not a good thing.
Similarly if you tell the child that helping clear/set the table will get them a reward and they do it, you give them the reward and they will do that again in future in hopes to get the reward. over time it will just become a habit and they may not even be interested in the reward, its just what they do at dinner time
User avatar #233 - krobeles (03/10/2015) [-]
And you dont believe such a message could be conveyed through words?
If you educate with violence, thats all the child will understand as it grows up.
User avatar #236 - blueboysixnine (03/10/2015) [-]
You ever see in the streets the mother telling the child not to do something, but the child keeps doing it because he knows nothing bad is going to happen and that he can get away with it, yet the mother keeps saying "no, don't do that, no, that's bad, stop, stop doing that or else" with no real effect? I see it all the time. if she followed through with a smack or any sort of punishment at all, that little shit wouldn't think he can get away with it scott free
#246 - luxuriously (03/10/2015) [-]
I have. The kid shut up right when he was smacked.

I've also seen a child shut up the moment he was told to because he knew his uncle was looking out for him and was right. and because the child looked up to the uncle and respected him without the need of violence.
User avatar #249 - blueboysixnine (03/10/2015) [-]
Both valid points. Although what's with the dislike on my bewilderment that someone has never seen a kid acting like a little shit before?
#250 - luxuriously (03/10/2015) [-]
disliked the wrong comment.
User avatar #251 - blueboysixnine (03/10/2015) [-]
GG
User avatar #238 - krobeles (03/10/2015) [-]
No. I've never seen that in my entire life.
Sounds like there are alot of really shitty parents around your parts.
User avatar #240 - blueboysixnine (03/10/2015) [-]
You have never seen that in your life? god damn
#31 - Here you go.  [+] (3 new replies) 03/10/2015 on short women are best women +19
User avatar #113 - chimpaflimp (03/10/2015) [-]
I can't see any order to the stuff he's done. Is this not a series?
User avatar #119 - krobeles (03/10/2015) [-]
Its a sort of series, though there is only a vague continuity to it.
I mostly just jump about and read whatever seems interesting and I haven't read before.
#35 - articvibe (03/10/2015) [-]
#88 - Where did I emply that? That certainly wasn't my intend.  [+] (1 new reply) 03/10/2015 on Zarya wants snu snu. 0
User avatar #89 - deadnanners (03/10/2015) [-]
i should probably stop reading comments so early in the morning but it was good to have some clarification
#84 - >Not made to be a sexy steriotype >Made to be a not-…  [+] (3 new replies) 03/10/2015 on Zarya wants snu snu. +2
#86 - deadnanners (03/10/2015) [-]
>implying zarya isn't more bangable than satan
User avatar #88 - krobeles (03/10/2015) [-]
Where did I emply that? That certainly wasn't my intend.
User avatar #89 - deadnanners (03/10/2015) [-]
i should probably stop reading comments so early in the morning but it was good to have some clarification
#50 - This is like the second time in a week, this has happened. …  [+] (1 new reply) 03/09/2015 on A global consciousness 0
User avatar #51 - compared (03/09/2015) [-]
I have people that mention me like 10 times a week.

Don't worry tho, I'll keep us a secret
#520 - You assume the unborn have a right to live in the first place.… 03/09/2015 on Debate 0
#499 - Where did I say I would take away the right of the few for the…  [+] (2 new replies) 03/09/2015 on Debate 0
#502 - winglit (03/09/2015) [-]
other way around the right being taken away is the unborns right to live, and its being taken away for the comfort of the people who use it as birth control
User avatar #520 - krobeles (03/09/2015) [-]
You assume the unborn have a right to live in the first place. I dont agree with that. A thing that isn't born have no right to anything. You dont ask your toasters permission before you use it, and you dont apologise when you kick a football. Both of those things could technically become a human one day, so why dont you afford those the same kind of respect you would afford another human being?
Because those things aren't human yet. Just like a fetus isn't a human yet.
#494 - Thats a somewhat decent response, I supose. I dont agree …  [+] (1 new reply) 03/09/2015 on Debate 0
User avatar #498 - thelastamerican (03/09/2015) [-]
I'm not equipped to tell another adult how to live their life. Very few people are, and it's usually the ones that believe they are that you want to watch the closest.
#484 - I'm not asking what she would do in actual reality. I am …  [+] (3 new replies) 03/09/2015 on Debate 0
User avatar #485 - thelastamerican (03/09/2015) [-]
My answer is this:

I have no right to tell my sister what she can and can not do. She is a grown woman. All I can do is offer my advice. And my advice would be to have the child.
User avatar #494 - krobeles (03/09/2015) [-]
Thats a somewhat decent response, I supose.
I dont agree with your perspective, but I respect your opinion, since it doesn't infringe on anyone elses.
Good one on yah.
User avatar #498 - thelastamerican (03/09/2015) [-]
I'm not equipped to tell another adult how to live their life. Very few people are, and it's usually the ones that believe they are that you want to watch the closest.
#477 - For the sake of arguement, lets say that it doesn't. She …  [+] (5 new replies) 03/09/2015 on Debate 0
User avatar #479 - thelastamerican (03/09/2015) [-]
In the end it is her choice. But I know my sister better than you do. She would have the child. She may give it away, but she knows about accepting the outcomes of her actions. If she asked my advice I would tell her to have the baby.

Are you suggesting what I fear you might be suggesting?
User avatar #484 - krobeles (03/09/2015) [-]
I'm not asking what she would do in actual reality.
I am asking you, if in the hypothetical scenario that you knew full well that your sister didn't want the child and the only thing standing in the way of her abortion was your choise, would you disallow her having an abortion?
Thats the thrust of my question.
User avatar #485 - thelastamerican (03/09/2015) [-]
My answer is this:

I have no right to tell my sister what she can and can not do. She is a grown woman. All I can do is offer my advice. And my advice would be to have the child.
User avatar #494 - krobeles (03/09/2015) [-]
Thats a somewhat decent response, I supose.
I dont agree with your perspective, but I respect your opinion, since it doesn't infringe on anyone elses.
Good one on yah.
User avatar #498 - thelastamerican (03/09/2015) [-]
I'm not equipped to tell another adult how to live their life. Very few people are, and it's usually the ones that believe they are that you want to watch the closest.
#474 - I'm done trying to advocate a philosophy I dont believe in. …  [+] (4 new replies) 03/09/2015 on Debate 0
#487 - winglit (03/09/2015) [-]
you would sacrifice the rights of few for the security and comfort of the many, that is an orwellian society you take away the potential and only right I care to recognize, the right to life because its an inconvenience for society and you are determined to not think of them as anything more than collateral damage and as a society we have deemed this acceptable... and you comment that Ive done nothing to try and improve on those things to change those things but you presume much dontcha think?
User avatar #499 - krobeles (03/09/2015) [-]
Where did I say I would take away the right of the few for the security of the many? I dont want to take away anyones comfort. A fetus doesn't have an understanding of confort, so it cant be taken away. Just because I ascribe to a utilitarian ethics set doesn't mean I am some kind Utilitarian Machine, that cannot grasp the minutia of things.

As I said; So long as "The Greater Good" is dictated, not by any objective truth or unalienable governmental instance, but by a democratic vote, this system is hard to fuck up.
#502 - winglit (03/09/2015) [-]
other way around the right being taken away is the unborns right to live, and its being taken away for the comfort of the people who use it as birth control
User avatar #520 - krobeles (03/09/2015) [-]
You assume the unborn have a right to live in the first place. I dont agree with that. A thing that isn't born have no right to anything. You dont ask your toasters permission before you use it, and you dont apologise when you kick a football. Both of those things could technically become a human one day, so why dont you afford those the same kind of respect you would afford another human being?
Because those things aren't human yet. Just like a fetus isn't a human yet.
#442 - And if your sister wanted to get an abortion, you would deny t…  [+] (7 new replies) 03/09/2015 on Debate 0
User avatar #447 - thelastamerican (03/09/2015) [-]
In your fantasy does the birth of her child somehow put her life in danger?
User avatar #477 - krobeles (03/09/2015) [-]
For the sake of arguement, lets say that it doesn't.
She just doesn't want to have the child, because she doesn't feel like shes in a place in her life where she can manedge a child.

...Are you seriously about to propose what I fear you might be about to propose?...
User avatar #479 - thelastamerican (03/09/2015) [-]
In the end it is her choice. But I know my sister better than you do. She would have the child. She may give it away, but she knows about accepting the outcomes of her actions. If she asked my advice I would tell her to have the baby.

Are you suggesting what I fear you might be suggesting?
User avatar #484 - krobeles (03/09/2015) [-]
I'm not asking what she would do in actual reality.
I am asking you, if in the hypothetical scenario that you knew full well that your sister didn't want the child and the only thing standing in the way of her abortion was your choise, would you disallow her having an abortion?
Thats the thrust of my question.
User avatar #485 - thelastamerican (03/09/2015) [-]
My answer is this:

I have no right to tell my sister what she can and can not do. She is a grown woman. All I can do is offer my advice. And my advice would be to have the child.
User avatar #494 - krobeles (03/09/2015) [-]
Thats a somewhat decent response, I supose.
I dont agree with your perspective, but I respect your opinion, since it doesn't infringe on anyone elses.
Good one on yah.
User avatar #498 - thelastamerican (03/09/2015) [-]
I'm not equipped to tell another adult how to live their life. Very few people are, and it's usually the ones that believe they are that you want to watch the closest.
#428 - I am not trolling. The first part of the comment was me showin…  [+] (6 new replies) 03/09/2015 on Debate 0
#444 - winglit (03/09/2015) [-]
the first part of your comment showing how overpopulation isnt dehumanizing requires you to look at humanity as a species and the individual as a number, and that requires you to ignore the individual that you kill as a number... and the later of your comments does the same, you dont look at the individuals or the impact on individuals just a "greater good" mentality and the "greater good" is how we end up in an Orwellian society.
User avatar #474 - krobeles (03/09/2015) [-]
I'm done trying to advocate a philosophy I dont believe in.

The greater good is how you're communicating with me across a vast expanse of space at the speed of light and thought, while starving children die the world over and none of us give a shit.
You can try to pretend like you dont ascribe to the same kind of morality that I do that, but ultimately its an exercise in futility. You ascribe to the very same kind of "greater good" morality that I do, you just haven't quite come to terms with it yet. Is it harrowing that this is the state of affairs? Certainly. Can it be changed? No.
Its always been this way. Its how the world works. Its how the world has always worked. Its how the animal kingdom works and how the human kingdoms worked and how the society we have today works.
You can try to shut it out all you want, but it wont change the world.

Doing things for the greater good wont net you an Orwellian society. Allowing the government to be the sole arbiter of what constitutes this Greater Good, will.
#487 - winglit (03/09/2015) [-]
you would sacrifice the rights of few for the security and comfort of the many, that is an orwellian society you take away the potential and only right I care to recognize, the right to life because its an inconvenience for society and you are determined to not think of them as anything more than collateral damage and as a society we have deemed this acceptable... and you comment that Ive done nothing to try and improve on those things to change those things but you presume much dontcha think?
User avatar #499 - krobeles (03/09/2015) [-]
Where did I say I would take away the right of the few for the security of the many? I dont want to take away anyones comfort. A fetus doesn't have an understanding of confort, so it cant be taken away. Just because I ascribe to a utilitarian ethics set doesn't mean I am some kind Utilitarian Machine, that cannot grasp the minutia of things.

As I said; So long as "The Greater Good" is dictated, not by any objective truth or unalienable governmental instance, but by a democratic vote, this system is hard to fuck up.
#502 - winglit (03/09/2015) [-]
other way around the right being taken away is the unborns right to live, and its being taken away for the comfort of the people who use it as birth control
User avatar #520 - krobeles (03/09/2015) [-]
You assume the unborn have a right to live in the first place. I dont agree with that. A thing that isn't born have no right to anything. You dont ask your toasters permission before you use it, and you dont apologise when you kick a football. Both of those things could technically become a human one day, so why dont you afford those the same kind of respect you would afford another human being?
Because those things aren't human yet. Just like a fetus isn't a human yet.

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#72 - krobeles ONLINE (12/12/2014) [-]
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User avatar #62 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
Now you wanna be civil?! Where did that come from? Fine, we'll have a discussion.

Women have to fear death too. Like, usually the fear of rape comes with the fear of death. And you can argue what you did when it comes to gangs messing with guys on the street, but that's the same for women by other women. Like, I know some girls who get messed with by the Latin Kings because they're Hispanic girls. I do not see how these issues even out. Maybe quantitatively, but not when it comes to the level of danger and effect. But if they did (and please clarify for me with legitimate examples), these issues have one thing in common: notions of masculinity, whether it be inter-gendered or intra-gendered. Those guys that beat you up started messing you because they thought you looked like a faggot. That's a hierarchy of sex right there: straight males have the right to attack homosexual males in an attempt to display their masculinity. Men are affected negatively by notions of masculinity also, but the effect of masculinity on males is seen more in the male treatment of women. And these notions of masculinity, while also in part perpetuated by women, are largely and more easily perpetuated by men. This is why feminism is here, and this is why women are more affected than men: men are taught masculinity, which shapes them as people and shapes their treatment of women, which leads to women taking more of the damage than men.

This is not creating a culture of victims. This is giving people something tangible to fight against. Naming a common cause of this type of gendered violence allows the fight to be fought more realistically. Naming a more specific root of a problem is more effective than just generalizing everything because violence is born and molded in different ways.

You're right about more women being accepted into universities, but when it comes to professional studies (law school, med school, etc.) less women are being accepted.

Hold on. I'm not done.
User avatar #63 to #62 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
A flaw of feminism is that there is not enough discussion on the oppression faced by people experiencing the intersectionality of being minority and a woman. That's in part why womanism was born, but many feminists incorporate intersectionality into their beliefs.

And that story about your mom? One success story doesn't mean equality. Many of the women in my family immigrated from Mexico and became pregnant as teenagers. Many of the women in my family were also raped or molested. My grandmother was beaten by her husband, and many of the women in my family and in this culture are expected to stay in the house and fulfill their roles as women. This isn't just limited to my family, it's everywhere. These issues do exist.
User avatar #64 to #63 - krobeles ONLINE (08/30/2014) [-]
Alright, lets try something alittle different.
We can agree that women face some issues, yes? We can also agree that men face some issues, yes? We can furthermore agree that they share a number of common issues and that atleast a few of them share a common cause? If we can agree on this, why are we having this discussion in the frame of womens issues and why is the movement called Feminism?

To a degree, I agree with you on the masculinity thing. I have this skirt that I think I love just lovely in, but I rarely find it aproriate to wear that, because I know what people will think of a dude in a skirt. And thats sort of my issue with the feminist movement. I am not saying that women dont face issues and I am not saying the issues they do face are allways insignificant. But forming a humanitarian movement which attacks a grand social problem, but to face solely on the issues faced by one gender, is subtle sexism in and of itself.

Its also important to note that assholes and idiots will always exist. I see alot of these feminists attacking the "How not to get raped" things, with stupid ******** like "Dont teach women not to get raped, teach not to rape!", which is just silly.
We could apply this logic to common acts and thievery and see it fall apart. "Dont tell me to lock my door, tell thieves not to rob my house!". It is true that thieves and thugs never have the right to rob/rape you, but if you dont take steps to pretend and desentavise them from doing so, then you automatically forfiet a small part of your right to complain.
And in that same regard, I dont go around spouting ******** like "Teach people not to assault men people in skirts with long hair!", I just accept that such savage behavior is inherent in some particularily nasty people, and find ways to prevent it myself. I own a few weapons in my home, and I know a basic few things of self defence.

I dont believe that feminism gives women "something tangible to fight against". It provides a nebulous threat of the ominous "Patriarchy" and "Male-opression" to fight against. Since the easily explained (very dumbed down) cause this is white males, you suddenly have alot of these women who feel disenfranchised and run-down, who suddenly find something to point at and go "Thats the cause of all my problems!". Since they've forgotten to mention that the thing they're fighting against hurts all parts of society equally, these women never really stop to consider if perhaps they're attacking the problem from the wrong angle or if they're attacking the wrong people.

Just as you say that one success story doesn't a trend make, I dont feel like your family experience is anymore valid an example. Rot festers in places in which it is not cleaned out, and if there has been an unfortunate trend in your family of abuse, then it is a given that it will continue unless someone makes an effort to cut out the rot.

Ultimately, what I said about feminism not not attacking the right issues can be linked to this. If what you claim happened to your family is the general trend amongst Mexican/African famillies, then that is a serious problem which needs to taken care of. However, it seems to me that the general feminist movement are far more interested in applying their efforts towards comparatively harmless videogames and TV-shows, which are totally and entirely insignificant in comparison to actual family abuse and rape.

This leads me to believe that the new feminist movement isn't really about equality, but rather just a fandom-esque circlejerk in which its members are more concerned with the tiny minute issues they might concievably face, rather the actual big and serious issues which actually needs their attention.

Well, to comment on the civil discussion thing, taking a few minutes to play a game of tower defence, and making a conceded effort to appear less of an angry shouty person in order to facillitate more constructive debate, does its thing rather well. Also, I largely view insults and shouty-debates as a form of humor. So long as I'm just trying to trying to get a rail out of people, I insult them. Theres a certain art to a well constructed and imaginative insult, I find. However, if the says or does something that belies the potential for actually interesting debate, its another matter entirely.
User avatar #65 to #64 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
We're having this discussion in the frame of women's issues because it does effect women in a more detrimental way and it *is* more perpetuated by men. I mentioned that men go through oppressions also, like the pressure to be masculine, but many of those pressures are self-perpetuated and the result is displayed in their relationships toward women. And it is called feminism because femininity is not limited to women. It is not subscribed to one gender or sex.

The concept of a humanitarian movement is good in theory, but there's issues in that we wouldn't be able to prevent the perpetuation of oppression without knowing where it comes from. Let's take gangs as an example. A lot of inner city groups are preaching to kids that "violence is bad," something everyone has been hearing for the longest time. However, things like this aren't working. What works instead is legislation that targets poverty and expands opportunity and education, which is keeping kids off the street. We can have a whole anti-violence movement, but fighting violence in general is too grand of a scale to address realistically. Narrowing down oppression allows us to take the fight one step at a time. Not to mention that forming groups like these also give people a sense of community in what they're facing.

Hold on I"m not done
User avatar #66 to #65 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
Okay, honestly with the "don't teach women how to not get raped, teach not to rape" thing, I only agree 50%. Yeah, we do have to put more of the focus in preventing sexual assault on the perpetrator, but we also need to teach everyone how to stay safe and stay away from risky behaviors in a way that doesn't result in someone saying, "well, she was hanging with the wrong crowd, so maybe she wouldn't have gotten raped if she wasn't where she was" or something like that. Victims see enough of a reason to blame themselves without stuff like this being said. And if by "complain" you mean be angry or upset, then you do still have a right to complain, because while steps could have been taken to prevent stuff like this, the perpetrator could have *not* raped the victim. You mention "teach people not to assault men in skirts with long hair." While I am sorry you were assaulted, and while this should NOT have happened to you, there is no trend of men wearing skirts and getting assaulted. There is a big trend of women and men getting raped by males though.

Feminism exists past the internet, past funnyjunk, past 4chan and past tumblr. Don't make the mistake of wrongly labeling a whole group of people because of popular opinion on these websites. True feminists are not attacking anyone. White males are pointed at (not attacked) as a cause because (1) they have the most power in society, and (2) the fact that most don't have to deal with discrimination based on sex, race or gender creates a feeling of disdain in the white male community for these people that are fighting these issues. Honestly, that's how it is. If you're more exposed to racism, you'd care more about ending it. The same goes with sexism. I mean, look at funnyjunk. The largest community here is white, male and straight. Look at how much easier this anti-feminism thing floated compared to a place like tumblr, where a good fraction of the users are female and not white.

Hold on
User avatar #67 to #66 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
I was wary about mentioning my family, but I thought it was okay since I don't know you and you don't know me. I can assure you that these issues are not limited to my family, and please refrain from comparing them to "rot," even if you do see it as fit.

The grand feminist movement is not focused on video games and such. The internet/tumblr feminist movement is. And I definitely wouldn't argue these video games and whatever are harmless. I'm gonna make a cliche argument, but just because it's cliche doesn't mean it's not true: it hurts self esteem. Seeing all these sexy girls in video games, music videos, and everywhere else in the ******* media sucks. Seeing guys drool over those girls also sucks. Women are oversexualized and we're pressured to look like them. It's cliche but it's true.

Feminism is not a circle jerk. I'm just saying feminism concerns more than tumblr and the internet.

Okay now I'm done
User avatar #68 to #67 - krobeles ONLINE (08/30/2014) [-]
The thing about teaching people "not to rape" though, is that that is impossible. As I said, there will allways be assholes, and they know full well that rape is wrong. They just dont care, because they're egotistical asshats.
I was just useing myself as an example (I've never been assaulted while wearing the skirt, actually), of something that would be equally silly.
Of course you still have some right to complain - it is still wrong to rape or assault people regardless of what they wear or how they behave - but you have to admit that the complaint falls alot shorter if the person in question took active steps to put himself/herself in harms way to begin with?
You could liken it to a person climbing onto a scaffolding and then falling down and breaks both legs. Is it regrettable that the person fell and broke both legs? Yes. Was it rather expected, based on circumstance and the poor safety measure the person had set up? Yes.

I am not so sure about the "Feminism exists past the internet"-thing. Of course it is reasonable to assume that there is the odd feminist every now and again, but on a grander scale, the only people I've ever met who claimed themselves feminists is two girls who associate with the Tumblr crowd on the internet. They're more a physical extension of the internet-Tumblr-feminists than actual feminists. Other than them, I've never anyone who claimed themselves feminist. It might because all of what you've happened is more of an issue in the states, than it is in Denmark, but it still doesn't do much to make me convinced that actual - none-Tumblr - feminists actually exists.
This is why I largely allow the Tumblr-feminists view to be indicative of all feminists. I've never met a non-tumblr feminists in all my 21 years, and I therefor dont really have faith that they exist outside of the internet.

Which is actually another thing I've come to consider. Since many of the Tumblr feminists seem to be American and preoccupised with strictly American issues, I am starting to consider that perhaps America might suffer infinitely more from these issues discriminatory issues than the European countries (Well, Denmark, atleast). But I dont see the Tumblr-feminists treating it as an American problem dispite the fact that it might be a strictly American problem. This comes back to what I mentioned with the feminists being an angry hate-club which're just looking for their next big issue to be offended over. I'm sure that if they stopped for five minutes and looked at some of the silly things they get offended over, they would see how silly it is. Instead though, they're much too busy yelling and shouting angryly at game developers, who had the audacity to make their female character busty.

I wasn't comparing your family to rot. I was comparing the aparent trend of violence and rape to rot. Just because a person commits a rotten action, does not a rotten person make. I actually intended to write something along those lines in my comment, but I must've forgot. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.

As I explained above, I dont think that there really is a true divide between "the grand feminist movement" and the tumblr feminists.
If the video game thing hurts the self esteem of some people, then I honestly think that they those need to grow a spine, sorry to say. There are dudes in video games too, who are insanely buff and masculin beyond anything realistic. The dudes that aren't, are insanely intelligent and sucessful in busness or whatever. Should men be offended at this depiction of dudes?
Thats why we call it fiction. Its not suposed to be taken as seriously as some feminists do and claim other women do as well. Its an idealized version of a woman marketet to a predominantly white male teen audience. What do you think sells well with white teenage dudes? Tits, of course. Its not a question of discrimination or objectification, its a question of marketing. White teenage guys likes tits, so the corporations gives them tits.
Add this to the fact that almost all of my female friends I've asked directly if they feel offended or objectified by fictional works, says they find it silly and of course they dont. I think this problem lies with the self-esteem of the people who complain about it. Its not that these images and materials cause bad self esteem in women, its that these images remind women who allready suffer from bad self esteem, how ****** they feel about themselves. Sorry if this seems a bit cynical; but we cant pander to a group of mentally ill people, who complain about something no person with proper self esteem and self image would find the least bit offensive. The lowest common denominator should not dictate the direction the crowd moves.
This is not to say that I nessesarily condone the way females are portrayed in games and general media. I think they hamstrings themselves, by reducing females in the way they do. This goes for men aswell. No interesting plots are going to arise from a story in which all females are card-board cutouts with latex tits plastered onto, and all males are gruff handsom flawless Adonis wanna-bes who can solve 3rd grade differential equations in their heads while bench pressing 4 times their own weight.
Outside of the detrimental effects to storytelling that it has, I cant view this as anything other than one of those silly null-issues I complain about the feminists being all too keen to focus on, while ignoring the grander problems.

I dont believe that men systematically opress women. Not here in the rest anyway. Those in power opress those not in power. Its been like that forever and it'll likely continue to be like that a long time into the future too. A good bunch of those in power are white males, which is a left-over from a time in which white males did actually opress everyone not white and not male. Non-white non-males just haven't had the chance to bleed up through the molasses-like power structure that we've instituted. Thats not opression, thats just a matter of fact.

I feel like you handicap the conversation by framing it this context, when what you're really complaining about is a grander social problem, not singularily suffered by women. It would be like discussing war casualties as a mens issue, because the majority of soldiers are men. Dont you think the female soldiers would be slightly pissed off, about the fact that they're role and their pains in the army is effectively being ignored?

User avatar #69 to #68 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
See? No. It shouldn't matter if people took "active steps to put themselves in harm's way." We're way to focused on that. If "harm's way" qualifies as being with a man late at night, than that vilifies men way more than anything else. We need to teach people not to rape. And rape is a preventable thing, because the main reason men--and yes, the majority of perpetrators are men--rape is because they want to feel power. Power, of course, is a characteristic of masculinity. The male need to feel power is the male need to feel masculine. Again, the reason this whole feminism thing exists is to fight trends. There is a trend of men who rape. The is a trend of women getting raped. There is a trend of masculinity being pushed by men and there is a trend of men needing to feel power. This is not silly.
The connection to the scaffolding isn't valid because there is no perpetrator. An accident is different than flat out assault. You cannot, by any means, blame a victim like that. No one deserves rape and we shouldn't treat any case as lesser because "she was wearing a skirt too short" or "she was out with the wrong crowd." That's always the first thing people think about--what the girl was doing wrong--rather than why the guy raped her or what he shouldn't have done. And how many times can guys catch themselves doing the same thing with no consequence? Men can be out late at night with women. Men can walk around with no shirt and not be raped. It just happens on a much larger scale with women.

hold on
User avatar #70 to #69 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
A big part of the feminism we're discussing is feminism in America. I can definitely contest that feminism exists outside of the internet. I know many feminists who are not using social networks in their practice at all. There are many thinkers--bell hooks, for example--that are held up to a high standard and that would disagree with the things that the "tumblr feminists" say. If you really aren't exposed to this group and are actually ignorant to it, then how can this part of your argument have a good foundation?

There is a problem with that. You mention a white male audience when it comes to video games, but about half of the gaming audience is women. And women are sexualized more in games, that's just it. I'll take Resident Evil as an example. Leon and Chris have big muscles, yes, but look at the females in the game. Clare is wearing tight clothes and whatever, but what bothers me most is that in every RE games she's in, the camera focuses on her ass and pans up her body at least like 3 times per game. And look at Ada (if you never played these games you should google these characters). She runs around in a ******* long red, sexy dress and high heels in RE4, and it is clear that Leon is caught in a spell because of her. It's always Leon sexualizing her, not the other way around. And the villains in RE. The majority of the male villains are old men, like Salazar in RE4 and Birkin in the Darkside Chronicles--while the female villains are like, almost naked and sexy in a weird monster way. But if you still think that "males are just as sexualized as females," and if you have a problem with it, say something. Don't get mad at other people for saying something they have a problem with by claiming you have a problem with something else--fix it.
And all of this oversexualization is related to MASCULINITY. That's what I've been saying. The oversexualization of men is also related to masculinity and the idea that men can't be heroes unless they're masculine. hold on
User avatar #71 to #70 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
These video games enforce these notions of masculinity both ways and in turn enforce notions of power. It's all about the mindset these things perpetuate.

It is oppression because it is a matter of fact. That's how ingrained it is--we believe we can't fight it. You can't say oppression doesn't exist, even in places like America, because there is a type of person that succeeds and there is a type of person that doesn't, and it mostly doesn't boil down to laziness or true inferiority. It's about who's "at risk" to fail and who's not "at risk." Not everyone has equal opportunity and not everyone is born to the same circumstances, and it mostly depends on race, class and gender, and that's why these individual tiers have individual activism groups. We can't just say "well people are always gonna be oppressed" and not do anything about it, because no where in America's history (and hardly anywhere in world history) were white, straight males oppressed. Everyone else was.

For the last part of your argument, again, females are more negatively affected by this. Masculinity is related to power and sex and it is displayed in the male treatment of women. I've addressed this already.
User avatar #42 - revengeforfreeze (11/06/2013) [-]
yYOUS AN BRON?!
User avatar #43 to #42 - krobeles ONLINE (11/06/2013) [-]
ehm, say what now??
User avatar #44 to #43 - revengeforfreeze (11/09/2013) [-]
you're a brony?
User avatar #45 to #44 - krobeles ONLINE (11/09/2013) [-]
I dont identify as one, no.
Why?
User avatar #46 to #45 - revengeforfreeze (11/09/2013) [-]
>joined ponytime
>posted pony content
User avatar #47 to #46 - krobeles ONLINE (11/09/2013) [-]
So? That dosen't make me a brony. That makes a dude who watches My Little Pony.
I recon theres a differance.
User avatar #48 to #47 - revengeforfreeze (11/09/2013) [-]
well okay
i didnt know the difference tbh
User avatar #49 to #48 - krobeles ONLINE (11/09/2013) [-]
Its more of a personal thing, actually.
I view the "Bronies" as the greezy fat neck bearded Otaku-wannabies who attend cons and cosplay girls.
I'm not one of those.
User avatar #51 to #50 - krobeles ONLINE (11/09/2013) [-]
Why'de you ask anyway?
User avatar #52 to #51 - revengeforfreeze (11/09/2013) [-]
don tnkow.
User avatar #53 to #52 - krobeles ONLINE (11/09/2013) [-]
Weeell...Aaalright then..G'day...
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