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#42 - Dude, every other donation is taxed. If I inherit **** …  [+] (5 new replies) 04/02/2015 on Well then 0
User avatar #76 - IamSofaKingdom (04/02/2015) [-]
They don't want the church to have influence on anything political, which makes sense to me. If the church is required to fund the government through taxes, how can they justify excluding it in major political decisions or backing political figures? They will have to allow churches, to some extent, to influence the government decisions, which they don't want.
#45 - infernis (04/02/2015) [-]
I actually don't have an opinion on this, as both sides seem to have valid points and I'm from Germany, where the system is entirely different to begin with, but I'm interested in the discussion.
User avatar #46 - krobeles (04/02/2015) [-]
Heh, alright. I'm from Denmark myself, so I'm partaking in the discussion as intellectual exercise, more than any actual need to convince people. Its a very minor issue here, and its honestly a stretch to call it an "issue" at all.

How does it work in Germany?
User avatar #61 - infernis (04/02/2015) [-]
Well, for instance, there's this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Germany#The_right_to_collect_church_tax , the so-called "Kirchensteuer", which is unique to Germany, if I'm not mistaken.
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#35 - You're a pretty huge faggot, aren't you? I enjoy you…  [+] (1 new reply) 04/02/2015 on Well then -2
#121 - lordraine (04/02/2015) [-]
Look who just blew in from r/atheism.

You didn't even tip your fedora as you left. 0/10, you aren't even trying.
#7 - I remember going out and kidnapping baby birds, when I was a c…  [+] (4 new replies) 04/02/2015 on All life is precious +29
User avatar #16 - SeverusSnapeFan (04/03/2015) [-]
You may be a serial killer later on.
User avatar #14 - vyrthur (04/02/2015) [-]
I used to dissect little lizards I found around the outer lamps in my year during summer where they usually fed off of insects, I would grab them and squeeze their skulls until their eyes popped out so I could play with them as marbles Don't worry lad, a lot of us were fucked up as kids, Hells Halls open wide for us if that makes you feel any better
User avatar #13 - megashot (04/02/2015) [-]
On a completely unrelated note, the fact that you type ''i'de'' is giving me a stroke.
User avatar #12 - needsauceadmisblan (04/02/2015) [-]
well at least you arent anymore
i hope
#57 - Dont let that get you down, man. You just have to know wh… 04/02/2015 on OC 0
#53 - > inevitably get rejected Why, man? What're you d…  [+] (2 new replies) 04/02/2015 on OC 0
User avatar #54 - komandantmirkoo (04/02/2015) [-]
let's just say i'm not easy on the eyes.
User avatar #57 - krobeles (04/02/2015) [-]
Dont let that get you down, man.
You just have to know when to pick your battles. if you're something of an eye sour, then getting drunk and picking up chicks at bars probably isn't the thing for you. Try going to a private party where you can get a chance to actually talk to a person. If you have some decent wit and humor, your looks dont matter, as long as you just have a chance to show that wit and humor, something you rarely have at clubs and bars.

I'm kinda in the same bout myself. I'de like to think I'm not ugly enough that it detracts any, but I'm certainly not handsom enough that it alone can win me many favors. I actually cant remember the last time I went to a private party without ending up making out with some chick, but I've only ever picked up a chick at a bar once in my entire life...Not for lack of trying, mind you...
#49 - Even the infinite power of imagination, cant un-beta you, I'm afraid.  [+] (4 new replies) 04/02/2015 on OC +1
User avatar #50 - komandantmirkoo (04/02/2015) [-]
true. but beer can. about 7-8 beers and im loose enough to talk to women and not feel like shit when i inevitably get rejected
User avatar #53 - krobeles (04/02/2015) [-]
> inevitably get rejected

Why, man? What're you doing wrong?
User avatar #54 - komandantmirkoo (04/02/2015) [-]
let's just say i'm not easy on the eyes.
User avatar #57 - krobeles (04/02/2015) [-]
Dont let that get you down, man.
You just have to know when to pick your battles. if you're something of an eye sour, then getting drunk and picking up chicks at bars probably isn't the thing for you. Try going to a private party where you can get a chance to actually talk to a person. If you have some decent wit and humor, your looks dont matter, as long as you just have a chance to show that wit and humor, something you rarely have at clubs and bars.

I'm kinda in the same bout myself. I'de like to think I'm not ugly enough that it detracts any, but I'm certainly not handsom enough that it alone can win me many favors. I actually cant remember the last time I went to a private party without ending up making out with some chick, but I've only ever picked up a chick at a bar once in my entire life...Not for lack of trying, mind you...
#2 - I always hated multiple choise tests. It just seems like a way… 04/01/2015 on School -4
#145 - Eh. Thanks, I guess. 03/31/2015 on >tfw -2
#137 - Thats better. You seem to have misunderstood what it mean…  [+] (2 new replies) 03/31/2015 on >tfw -3
#138 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
I tell you - you'd make a great politician, but you make a terrible human being.
User avatar #145 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Eh. Thanks, I guess.
#122 - Welp. I think I'm done. You're obviously a very close minded p…  [+] (4 new replies) 03/31/2015 on >tfw -2
User avatar #131 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
Woah, now. I'm close(d)Intelligent man, eh? minded? You're the one who said people are useless. You're the one who said people who are depressed should kill themselves. I believe everyone can do awesome things. I believe everyone who's depressed can be help. Most human problems are

People operate as pack creatures, yes. It goes back to our roots when we had to survive in a world where things bigger and stronger than us were higher on the food-chain. On our own, yeah, we don't last that long, but people need to be capable of something to useful in any kind of group.

I don't only disagree with your viewpoint on life, I see it as downright sociopathic.

You think all your education makes you better than others? Because you have connections and (presumably) money, you're a greater human being? Fuck off, that's just ridiculous.

Looking at life from an outside perspective wherein nobody means anything unless they have networks and education doesn't help you survive. It doesn't improve you as a person, it doesn't justify your existence more than it justifies anyone else's. Every single human being that has been brought into this world deserves a chance at life. A chance to be something greater than whatever bullshit they may or may not have been born into. You're saying, instead of looking for something better, holding on just a few more days, hoping for someone to help you out, you should just go ahead and kick the bucket? Fuck that.
Tragedy has a lot of people locked in shit-hole lives that they can't escape from, and to many of them, suicide feels like the only option. A guy in my town committed suicide yesterday, because he couldn't afford his drug-habits or to feed his three-year-old son. Shit's fucked up. That's crazy fucking dark. His son has to go off to some care home now, probably not gonna get fostered, so he'll grow up without parents, probably without any money. You think he should kill himself? Get it all over with? Hop off the great bridge of life and fall into the river of nice cosy death?

I don't believe you are in any way justified in the way you're thinking about life. You don't get to just say that people should kill themselves, and then expect others to listen to what you have to say. You don't get to put yourself above others and still expect them to respect you. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. Who do you think you are to tell me I'm closed-minded when you suggest that instead of living and trying to make the most of life, people should kill themselves.

This is a long fucking comment, for a stupid fucking issue. Here's my side of the debate. You've given yours. And yes, these are brave words behind the wall of a keyboard, but you can go fuck yourself.
User avatar #137 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Thats better.
You seem to have misunderstood what it means to be close minded. I didn't say you were close minded because we disagree, you said you were close minded because you seemingly refused to evaluate my point. Refusal to consider new ideas (Or things, in general) is what it means to be close minded. I dont know how you got that mixted up. Also, it can aparently be spelled both as "close minded" and "closed minded", but in my experience, "close minded" is more common.

I dont have alot of money. I dont think my education alone makes me a better person, but it helps. I like to consider the value of a human being as the product of multiple factors, of which education is one. Being the product of such multiple factors, if even a single one hits 0, the product too will be 0. So no. Education alone doesn't make me a better human being, but it helps. Also, I dont have alot of money. Just to be clear.

The child in your story is probably better off now. That drag-addict dad would've probably caused his child to become an addict aswell. The child is infinitely better off now, even if that means the child ends of dying. Better dead than living a tortured life as an addict. He wont be such a leech on society either, and the rest of us wont have to fear being mugged or killed because he needs money to feed his addiction. Its a win-win for everybody involved.

Why should I not put myself above people who are genuinely below me? The people who are less educated and have less experience, willpower and charisma. Why should I not consider myself superior to these people if all my aspects are superior to thiers? Is it because its impolite to say your superior to somebody else? Because its arrogant? It may be arrogant, it might be impolite, but if its the truth, then should we not just all agree on that truth?
And again, if a person - depressed, uneducated and pathethic that he is - would be better off dead, why should we not just realize that and help him along?
Now, dont get me wrong. I am advocating that we actively go around offing depressed dudes, but if a person is so brutally depressed that my words will be the decideing factor, then isn't it better for that person to kill himself and get it over with? Why prolong something that ultimately equates to a slow torturous death? Thats a bit cruel, if you ask me.

I dont nessesarily demand that people listen to what I made to say, but if people refuse to listen to what I have to say, then that afford me every right to call those people out on their willful neglect of an opposing point of view. People can disagree with me all they like, and I welcome that opposition. Thats the only way ideas gets to evolve and expand, is to be exposed to foreign ideas. However, the moment that people stop even bothering to listen to what I have to say, is the moment I loose a hefty chunk of respect for those people.

Sociopathy is a dumb categorization. Its just the abillity to percieve human beings as numbers and pieces in a grander sceme of things, instead of relying on emotion to cloud logical thought. We shouldn't arbitrarily stable that abillity as a mental disorder, and I feel like thats what we're doing.
#138 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
I tell you - you'd make a great politician, but you make a terrible human being.
User avatar #145 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Eh. Thanks, I guess.
#119 - Do you disagree? Do you think a single human is useful? I …  [+] (6 new replies) 03/31/2015 on >tfw -3
#120 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
>slightly cynical viewpoint
>probably the most cynical dickwad out there
User avatar #122 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Welp. I think I'm done. You're obviously a very close minded person. Its like trying to convince a brick wall to move of its own accord. I am not going to continue this 'debate' any longer, since you dont even seem to be willing to evaluate or even read my responses.
Its the mark of the intelligent man, that he is able to entertain briefly, the opinion he doesn't agree with. You can figure out yourself where that places you.
User avatar #131 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
Woah, now. I'm close(d)Intelligent man, eh? minded? You're the one who said people are useless. You're the one who said people who are depressed should kill themselves. I believe everyone can do awesome things. I believe everyone who's depressed can be help. Most human problems are

People operate as pack creatures, yes. It goes back to our roots when we had to survive in a world where things bigger and stronger than us were higher on the food-chain. On our own, yeah, we don't last that long, but people need to be capable of something to useful in any kind of group.

I don't only disagree with your viewpoint on life, I see it as downright sociopathic.

You think all your education makes you better than others? Because you have connections and (presumably) money, you're a greater human being? Fuck off, that's just ridiculous.

Looking at life from an outside perspective wherein nobody means anything unless they have networks and education doesn't help you survive. It doesn't improve you as a person, it doesn't justify your existence more than it justifies anyone else's. Every single human being that has been brought into this world deserves a chance at life. A chance to be something greater than whatever bullshit they may or may not have been born into. You're saying, instead of looking for something better, holding on just a few more days, hoping for someone to help you out, you should just go ahead and kick the bucket? Fuck that.
Tragedy has a lot of people locked in shit-hole lives that they can't escape from, and to many of them, suicide feels like the only option. A guy in my town committed suicide yesterday, because he couldn't afford his drug-habits or to feed his three-year-old son. Shit's fucked up. That's crazy fucking dark. His son has to go off to some care home now, probably not gonna get fostered, so he'll grow up without parents, probably without any money. You think he should kill himself? Get it all over with? Hop off the great bridge of life and fall into the river of nice cosy death?

I don't believe you are in any way justified in the way you're thinking about life. You don't get to just say that people should kill themselves, and then expect others to listen to what you have to say. You don't get to put yourself above others and still expect them to respect you. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. Who do you think you are to tell me I'm closed-minded when you suggest that instead of living and trying to make the most of life, people should kill themselves.

This is a long fucking comment, for a stupid fucking issue. Here's my side of the debate. You've given yours. And yes, these are brave words behind the wall of a keyboard, but you can go fuck yourself.
User avatar #137 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Thats better.
You seem to have misunderstood what it means to be close minded. I didn't say you were close minded because we disagree, you said you were close minded because you seemingly refused to evaluate my point. Refusal to consider new ideas (Or things, in general) is what it means to be close minded. I dont know how you got that mixted up. Also, it can aparently be spelled both as "close minded" and "closed minded", but in my experience, "close minded" is more common.

I dont have alot of money. I dont think my education alone makes me a better person, but it helps. I like to consider the value of a human being as the product of multiple factors, of which education is one. Being the product of such multiple factors, if even a single one hits 0, the product too will be 0. So no. Education alone doesn't make me a better human being, but it helps. Also, I dont have alot of money. Just to be clear.

The child in your story is probably better off now. That drag-addict dad would've probably caused his child to become an addict aswell. The child is infinitely better off now, even if that means the child ends of dying. Better dead than living a tortured life as an addict. He wont be such a leech on society either, and the rest of us wont have to fear being mugged or killed because he needs money to feed his addiction. Its a win-win for everybody involved.

Why should I not put myself above people who are genuinely below me? The people who are less educated and have less experience, willpower and charisma. Why should I not consider myself superior to these people if all my aspects are superior to thiers? Is it because its impolite to say your superior to somebody else? Because its arrogant? It may be arrogant, it might be impolite, but if its the truth, then should we not just all agree on that truth?
And again, if a person - depressed, uneducated and pathethic that he is - would be better off dead, why should we not just realize that and help him along?
Now, dont get me wrong. I am advocating that we actively go around offing depressed dudes, but if a person is so brutally depressed that my words will be the decideing factor, then isn't it better for that person to kill himself and get it over with? Why prolong something that ultimately equates to a slow torturous death? Thats a bit cruel, if you ask me.

I dont nessesarily demand that people listen to what I made to say, but if people refuse to listen to what I have to say, then that afford me every right to call those people out on their willful neglect of an opposing point of view. People can disagree with me all they like, and I welcome that opposition. Thats the only way ideas gets to evolve and expand, is to be exposed to foreign ideas. However, the moment that people stop even bothering to listen to what I have to say, is the moment I loose a hefty chunk of respect for those people.

Sociopathy is a dumb categorization. Its just the abillity to percieve human beings as numbers and pieces in a grander sceme of things, instead of relying on emotion to cloud logical thought. We shouldn't arbitrarily stable that abillity as a mental disorder, and I feel like thats what we're doing.
#138 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
I tell you - you'd make a great politician, but you make a terrible human being.
User avatar #145 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Eh. Thanks, I guess.
#114 - They're not human lives though, as I just told you. They're ju…  [+] (8 new replies) 03/31/2015 on >tfw -7
#116 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
"If someone's depressed, they should kill themselves"
"If I tell someone to kill themselves, I'm basically helping them end their misery"
"Humans are the most useless things on the planet"

Fuck off.
User avatar #119 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Do you disagree? Do you think a single human is useful?
I am not depressed nor suicidal and a have a substantial education and a moderately large and well-connected network of people in multiple and varied diciplines. And I am fucking useless! Alone, of course. If I drew on my entire network, I probably wouldn't be, but on my own, I'm fucking useless.

Now imagine a person who doesn't have a large network and who doesn't have a good education and who have a depression that saps their strenght and motivation. Do you they're more useful or less? of course they're less useful, they fucking suck! We're probably still consuming about the same amount of resources though. Do you think its very constructive that this depressed person lives on, in a life he fundamentally doesn't enjoy and consumes resources that a more fit human being could use? Do you seriously believe that such a useless maggot should continue vampireing resources and accomplishing nothing, and hateing every moment of it? Literally everyone - himself included - will be worse off, if he continues to live. Do you seriously think its a good idea for him to continue on living, then??
#120 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
>slightly cynical viewpoint
>probably the most cynical dickwad out there
User avatar #122 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Welp. I think I'm done. You're obviously a very close minded person. Its like trying to convince a brick wall to move of its own accord. I am not going to continue this 'debate' any longer, since you dont even seem to be willing to evaluate or even read my responses.
Its the mark of the intelligent man, that he is able to entertain briefly, the opinion he doesn't agree with. You can figure out yourself where that places you.
User avatar #131 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
Woah, now. I'm close(d)Intelligent man, eh? minded? You're the one who said people are useless. You're the one who said people who are depressed should kill themselves. I believe everyone can do awesome things. I believe everyone who's depressed can be help. Most human problems are

People operate as pack creatures, yes. It goes back to our roots when we had to survive in a world where things bigger and stronger than us were higher on the food-chain. On our own, yeah, we don't last that long, but people need to be capable of something to useful in any kind of group.

I don't only disagree with your viewpoint on life, I see it as downright sociopathic.

You think all your education makes you better than others? Because you have connections and (presumably) money, you're a greater human being? Fuck off, that's just ridiculous.

Looking at life from an outside perspective wherein nobody means anything unless they have networks and education doesn't help you survive. It doesn't improve you as a person, it doesn't justify your existence more than it justifies anyone else's. Every single human being that has been brought into this world deserves a chance at life. A chance to be something greater than whatever bullshit they may or may not have been born into. You're saying, instead of looking for something better, holding on just a few more days, hoping for someone to help you out, you should just go ahead and kick the bucket? Fuck that.
Tragedy has a lot of people locked in shit-hole lives that they can't escape from, and to many of them, suicide feels like the only option. A guy in my town committed suicide yesterday, because he couldn't afford his drug-habits or to feed his three-year-old son. Shit's fucked up. That's crazy fucking dark. His son has to go off to some care home now, probably not gonna get fostered, so he'll grow up without parents, probably without any money. You think he should kill himself? Get it all over with? Hop off the great bridge of life and fall into the river of nice cosy death?

I don't believe you are in any way justified in the way you're thinking about life. You don't get to just say that people should kill themselves, and then expect others to listen to what you have to say. You don't get to put yourself above others and still expect them to respect you. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. Who do you think you are to tell me I'm closed-minded when you suggest that instead of living and trying to make the most of life, people should kill themselves.

This is a long fucking comment, for a stupid fucking issue. Here's my side of the debate. You've given yours. And yes, these are brave words behind the wall of a keyboard, but you can go fuck yourself.
User avatar #137 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Thats better.
You seem to have misunderstood what it means to be close minded. I didn't say you were close minded because we disagree, you said you were close minded because you seemingly refused to evaluate my point. Refusal to consider new ideas (Or things, in general) is what it means to be close minded. I dont know how you got that mixted up. Also, it can aparently be spelled both as "close minded" and "closed minded", but in my experience, "close minded" is more common.

I dont have alot of money. I dont think my education alone makes me a better person, but it helps. I like to consider the value of a human being as the product of multiple factors, of which education is one. Being the product of such multiple factors, if even a single one hits 0, the product too will be 0. So no. Education alone doesn't make me a better human being, but it helps. Also, I dont have alot of money. Just to be clear.

The child in your story is probably better off now. That drag-addict dad would've probably caused his child to become an addict aswell. The child is infinitely better off now, even if that means the child ends of dying. Better dead than living a tortured life as an addict. He wont be such a leech on society either, and the rest of us wont have to fear being mugged or killed because he needs money to feed his addiction. Its a win-win for everybody involved.

Why should I not put myself above people who are genuinely below me? The people who are less educated and have less experience, willpower and charisma. Why should I not consider myself superior to these people if all my aspects are superior to thiers? Is it because its impolite to say your superior to somebody else? Because its arrogant? It may be arrogant, it might be impolite, but if its the truth, then should we not just all agree on that truth?
And again, if a person - depressed, uneducated and pathethic that he is - would be better off dead, why should we not just realize that and help him along?
Now, dont get me wrong. I am advocating that we actively go around offing depressed dudes, but if a person is so brutally depressed that my words will be the decideing factor, then isn't it better for that person to kill himself and get it over with? Why prolong something that ultimately equates to a slow torturous death? Thats a bit cruel, if you ask me.

I dont nessesarily demand that people listen to what I made to say, but if people refuse to listen to what I have to say, then that afford me every right to call those people out on their willful neglect of an opposing point of view. People can disagree with me all they like, and I welcome that opposition. Thats the only way ideas gets to evolve and expand, is to be exposed to foreign ideas. However, the moment that people stop even bothering to listen to what I have to say, is the moment I loose a hefty chunk of respect for those people.

Sociopathy is a dumb categorization. Its just the abillity to percieve human beings as numbers and pieces in a grander sceme of things, instead of relying on emotion to cloud logical thought. We shouldn't arbitrarily stable that abillity as a mental disorder, and I feel like thats what we're doing.
#138 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
I tell you - you'd make a great politician, but you make a terrible human being.
User avatar #145 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Eh. Thanks, I guess.
#111 - "Jesus christ..." isn't an answer. Why do you c…  [+] (10 new replies) 03/31/2015 on >tfw -6
User avatar #112 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
They mean shit to me because they're human lives. I'm not going into a philosophical debate with a shitty troll.
User avatar #114 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
They're not human lives though, as I just told you. They're just strings of mostly useless information. You have no proof that any of them are humans. Although granted, its hugely unlikely that they're not. So given they are humans, why do you care about them? A single human being is just about the most useless fucking thing on the face of the planet, so why do you care? We have several billion humans, why do you care about the defective ones? The ones who are so spineless and weak that the easy and luxurious life we have here are too much for them to handle? Shouldn't you spend your time worring about the actually important humen people? The ones who aren't too useless to simply live? Thats the most basic thing life asks of you. "Dont kill yourself". The most basic fucking thing. And these people have failed that.

And btw, great job there labeling anyone with a slightly cynical viewpoint as a "troll". If it makes you feel better about yourself, you're welcome to think I am "trolling".
#116 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
"If someone's depressed, they should kill themselves"
"If I tell someone to kill themselves, I'm basically helping them end their misery"
"Humans are the most useless things on the planet"

Fuck off.
User avatar #119 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Do you disagree? Do you think a single human is useful?
I am not depressed nor suicidal and a have a substantial education and a moderately large and well-connected network of people in multiple and varied diciplines. And I am fucking useless! Alone, of course. If I drew on my entire network, I probably wouldn't be, but on my own, I'm fucking useless.

Now imagine a person who doesn't have a large network and who doesn't have a good education and who have a depression that saps their strenght and motivation. Do you they're more useful or less? of course they're less useful, they fucking suck! We're probably still consuming about the same amount of resources though. Do you think its very constructive that this depressed person lives on, in a life he fundamentally doesn't enjoy and consumes resources that a more fit human being could use? Do you seriously believe that such a useless maggot should continue vampireing resources and accomplishing nothing, and hateing every moment of it? Literally everyone - himself included - will be worse off, if he continues to live. Do you seriously think its a good idea for him to continue on living, then??
#120 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
>slightly cynical viewpoint
>probably the most cynical dickwad out there
User avatar #122 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Welp. I think I'm done. You're obviously a very close minded person. Its like trying to convince a brick wall to move of its own accord. I am not going to continue this 'debate' any longer, since you dont even seem to be willing to evaluate or even read my responses.
Its the mark of the intelligent man, that he is able to entertain briefly, the opinion he doesn't agree with. You can figure out yourself where that places you.
User avatar #131 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
Woah, now. I'm close(d)Intelligent man, eh? minded? You're the one who said people are useless. You're the one who said people who are depressed should kill themselves. I believe everyone can do awesome things. I believe everyone who's depressed can be help. Most human problems are

People operate as pack creatures, yes. It goes back to our roots when we had to survive in a world where things bigger and stronger than us were higher on the food-chain. On our own, yeah, we don't last that long, but people need to be capable of something to useful in any kind of group.

I don't only disagree with your viewpoint on life, I see it as downright sociopathic.

You think all your education makes you better than others? Because you have connections and (presumably) money, you're a greater human being? Fuck off, that's just ridiculous.

Looking at life from an outside perspective wherein nobody means anything unless they have networks and education doesn't help you survive. It doesn't improve you as a person, it doesn't justify your existence more than it justifies anyone else's. Every single human being that has been brought into this world deserves a chance at life. A chance to be something greater than whatever bullshit they may or may not have been born into. You're saying, instead of looking for something better, holding on just a few more days, hoping for someone to help you out, you should just go ahead and kick the bucket? Fuck that.
Tragedy has a lot of people locked in shit-hole lives that they can't escape from, and to many of them, suicide feels like the only option. A guy in my town committed suicide yesterday, because he couldn't afford his drug-habits or to feed his three-year-old son. Shit's fucked up. That's crazy fucking dark. His son has to go off to some care home now, probably not gonna get fostered, so he'll grow up without parents, probably without any money. You think he should kill himself? Get it all over with? Hop off the great bridge of life and fall into the river of nice cosy death?

I don't believe you are in any way justified in the way you're thinking about life. You don't get to just say that people should kill themselves, and then expect others to listen to what you have to say. You don't get to put yourself above others and still expect them to respect you. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. Who do you think you are to tell me I'm closed-minded when you suggest that instead of living and trying to make the most of life, people should kill themselves.

This is a long fucking comment, for a stupid fucking issue. Here's my side of the debate. You've given yours. And yes, these are brave words behind the wall of a keyboard, but you can go fuck yourself.
User avatar #137 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Thats better.
You seem to have misunderstood what it means to be close minded. I didn't say you were close minded because we disagree, you said you were close minded because you seemingly refused to evaluate my point. Refusal to consider new ideas (Or things, in general) is what it means to be close minded. I dont know how you got that mixted up. Also, it can aparently be spelled both as "close minded" and "closed minded", but in my experience, "close minded" is more common.

I dont have alot of money. I dont think my education alone makes me a better person, but it helps. I like to consider the value of a human being as the product of multiple factors, of which education is one. Being the product of such multiple factors, if even a single one hits 0, the product too will be 0. So no. Education alone doesn't make me a better human being, but it helps. Also, I dont have alot of money. Just to be clear.

The child in your story is probably better off now. That drag-addict dad would've probably caused his child to become an addict aswell. The child is infinitely better off now, even if that means the child ends of dying. Better dead than living a tortured life as an addict. He wont be such a leech on society either, and the rest of us wont have to fear being mugged or killed because he needs money to feed his addiction. Its a win-win for everybody involved.

Why should I not put myself above people who are genuinely below me? The people who are less educated and have less experience, willpower and charisma. Why should I not consider myself superior to these people if all my aspects are superior to thiers? Is it because its impolite to say your superior to somebody else? Because its arrogant? It may be arrogant, it might be impolite, but if its the truth, then should we not just all agree on that truth?
And again, if a person - depressed, uneducated and pathethic that he is - would be better off dead, why should we not just realize that and help him along?
Now, dont get me wrong. I am advocating that we actively go around offing depressed dudes, but if a person is so brutally depressed that my words will be the decideing factor, then isn't it better for that person to kill himself and get it over with? Why prolong something that ultimately equates to a slow torturous death? Thats a bit cruel, if you ask me.

I dont nessesarily demand that people listen to what I made to say, but if people refuse to listen to what I have to say, then that afford me every right to call those people out on their willful neglect of an opposing point of view. People can disagree with me all they like, and I welcome that opposition. Thats the only way ideas gets to evolve and expand, is to be exposed to foreign ideas. However, the moment that people stop even bothering to listen to what I have to say, is the moment I loose a hefty chunk of respect for those people.

Sociopathy is a dumb categorization. Its just the abillity to percieve human beings as numbers and pieces in a grander sceme of things, instead of relying on emotion to cloud logical thought. We shouldn't arbitrarily stable that abillity as a mental disorder, and I feel like thats what we're doing.
#138 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
I tell you - you'd make a great politician, but you make a terrible human being.
User avatar #145 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Eh. Thanks, I guess.
#101 - Why? What the **** should I care if some idiot kills hi…  [+] (13 new replies) 03/31/2015 on >tfw -6
#139 - advice (03/31/2015) [-]
this is for you
User avatar #105 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
Jesus christ...
User avatar #111 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
"Jesus christ..." isn't an answer.
Why do you care? Why do you even care? For all you know I dont even exist. For all you know, I'm just a very well programmed computer program, and I cannot die because I am not alive. Thats what internet people are. Strings of (mostly useless) information. Their lives literally mean jackshit to you. So why do you care?
User avatar #112 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
They mean shit to me because they're human lives. I'm not going into a philosophical debate with a shitty troll.
User avatar #114 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
They're not human lives though, as I just told you. They're just strings of mostly useless information. You have no proof that any of them are humans. Although granted, its hugely unlikely that they're not. So given they are humans, why do you care about them? A single human being is just about the most useless fucking thing on the face of the planet, so why do you care? We have several billion humans, why do you care about the defective ones? The ones who are so spineless and weak that the easy and luxurious life we have here are too much for them to handle? Shouldn't you spend your time worring about the actually important humen people? The ones who aren't too useless to simply live? Thats the most basic thing life asks of you. "Dont kill yourself". The most basic fucking thing. And these people have failed that.

And btw, great job there labeling anyone with a slightly cynical viewpoint as a "troll". If it makes you feel better about yourself, you're welcome to think I am "trolling".
#116 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
"If someone's depressed, they should kill themselves"
"If I tell someone to kill themselves, I'm basically helping them end their misery"
"Humans are the most useless things on the planet"

Fuck off.
User avatar #119 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Do you disagree? Do you think a single human is useful?
I am not depressed nor suicidal and a have a substantial education and a moderately large and well-connected network of people in multiple and varied diciplines. And I am fucking useless! Alone, of course. If I drew on my entire network, I probably wouldn't be, but on my own, I'm fucking useless.

Now imagine a person who doesn't have a large network and who doesn't have a good education and who have a depression that saps their strenght and motivation. Do you they're more useful or less? of course they're less useful, they fucking suck! We're probably still consuming about the same amount of resources though. Do you think its very constructive that this depressed person lives on, in a life he fundamentally doesn't enjoy and consumes resources that a more fit human being could use? Do you seriously believe that such a useless maggot should continue vampireing resources and accomplishing nothing, and hateing every moment of it? Literally everyone - himself included - will be worse off, if he continues to live. Do you seriously think its a good idea for him to continue on living, then??
#120 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
>slightly cynical viewpoint
>probably the most cynical dickwad out there
User avatar #122 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Welp. I think I'm done. You're obviously a very close minded person. Its like trying to convince a brick wall to move of its own accord. I am not going to continue this 'debate' any longer, since you dont even seem to be willing to evaluate or even read my responses.
Its the mark of the intelligent man, that he is able to entertain briefly, the opinion he doesn't agree with. You can figure out yourself where that places you.
User avatar #131 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
Woah, now. I'm close(d)Intelligent man, eh? minded? You're the one who said people are useless. You're the one who said people who are depressed should kill themselves. I believe everyone can do awesome things. I believe everyone who's depressed can be help. Most human problems are

People operate as pack creatures, yes. It goes back to our roots when we had to survive in a world where things bigger and stronger than us were higher on the food-chain. On our own, yeah, we don't last that long, but people need to be capable of something to useful in any kind of group.

I don't only disagree with your viewpoint on life, I see it as downright sociopathic.

You think all your education makes you better than others? Because you have connections and (presumably) money, you're a greater human being? Fuck off, that's just ridiculous.

Looking at life from an outside perspective wherein nobody means anything unless they have networks and education doesn't help you survive. It doesn't improve you as a person, it doesn't justify your existence more than it justifies anyone else's. Every single human being that has been brought into this world deserves a chance at life. A chance to be something greater than whatever bullshit they may or may not have been born into. You're saying, instead of looking for something better, holding on just a few more days, hoping for someone to help you out, you should just go ahead and kick the bucket? Fuck that.
Tragedy has a lot of people locked in shit-hole lives that they can't escape from, and to many of them, suicide feels like the only option. A guy in my town committed suicide yesterday, because he couldn't afford his drug-habits or to feed his three-year-old son. Shit's fucked up. That's crazy fucking dark. His son has to go off to some care home now, probably not gonna get fostered, so he'll grow up without parents, probably without any money. You think he should kill himself? Get it all over with? Hop off the great bridge of life and fall into the river of nice cosy death?

I don't believe you are in any way justified in the way you're thinking about life. You don't get to just say that people should kill themselves, and then expect others to listen to what you have to say. You don't get to put yourself above others and still expect them to respect you. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. Who do you think you are to tell me I'm closed-minded when you suggest that instead of living and trying to make the most of life, people should kill themselves.

This is a long fucking comment, for a stupid fucking issue. Here's my side of the debate. You've given yours. And yes, these are brave words behind the wall of a keyboard, but you can go fuck yourself.
User avatar #137 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Thats better.
You seem to have misunderstood what it means to be close minded. I didn't say you were close minded because we disagree, you said you were close minded because you seemingly refused to evaluate my point. Refusal to consider new ideas (Or things, in general) is what it means to be close minded. I dont know how you got that mixted up. Also, it can aparently be spelled both as "close minded" and "closed minded", but in my experience, "close minded" is more common.

I dont have alot of money. I dont think my education alone makes me a better person, but it helps. I like to consider the value of a human being as the product of multiple factors, of which education is one. Being the product of such multiple factors, if even a single one hits 0, the product too will be 0. So no. Education alone doesn't make me a better human being, but it helps. Also, I dont have alot of money. Just to be clear.

The child in your story is probably better off now. That drag-addict dad would've probably caused his child to become an addict aswell. The child is infinitely better off now, even if that means the child ends of dying. Better dead than living a tortured life as an addict. He wont be such a leech on society either, and the rest of us wont have to fear being mugged or killed because he needs money to feed his addiction. Its a win-win for everybody involved.

Why should I not put myself above people who are genuinely below me? The people who are less educated and have less experience, willpower and charisma. Why should I not consider myself superior to these people if all my aspects are superior to thiers? Is it because its impolite to say your superior to somebody else? Because its arrogant? It may be arrogant, it might be impolite, but if its the truth, then should we not just all agree on that truth?
And again, if a person - depressed, uneducated and pathethic that he is - would be better off dead, why should we not just realize that and help him along?
Now, dont get me wrong. I am advocating that we actively go around offing depressed dudes, but if a person is so brutally depressed that my words will be the decideing factor, then isn't it better for that person to kill himself and get it over with? Why prolong something that ultimately equates to a slow torturous death? Thats a bit cruel, if you ask me.

I dont nessesarily demand that people listen to what I made to say, but if people refuse to listen to what I have to say, then that afford me every right to call those people out on their willful neglect of an opposing point of view. People can disagree with me all they like, and I welcome that opposition. Thats the only way ideas gets to evolve and expand, is to be exposed to foreign ideas. However, the moment that people stop even bothering to listen to what I have to say, is the moment I loose a hefty chunk of respect for those people.

Sociopathy is a dumb categorization. Its just the abillity to percieve human beings as numbers and pieces in a grander sceme of things, instead of relying on emotion to cloud logical thought. We shouldn't arbitrarily stable that abillity as a mental disorder, and I feel like thats what we're doing.
#138 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
I tell you - you'd make a great politician, but you make a terrible human being.
User avatar #145 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Eh. Thanks, I guess.
#96 - How abselutely brilliantly formulated. You must be a smart guy…  [+] (15 new replies) 03/31/2015 on >tfw -7
#97 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
A whopping total of twelve. You see, when I put my brain to it I can do things quickly-like.

But, suggesting that people commit suicide is probably the single shittiest thing that you can do. Whether or not you're trolling, it still makes you a piece of shit.
User avatar #101 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Why? What the fuck should I care if some idiot kills himself? If my advice that he actually kill himself, is enough to push him over the edge, he was probably gonna do so anyway. I just helped him get to that inevitability alittle sooner than he otherwise might.
#139 - advice (03/31/2015) [-]
this is for you
User avatar #105 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
Jesus christ...
User avatar #111 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
"Jesus christ..." isn't an answer.
Why do you care? Why do you even care? For all you know I dont even exist. For all you know, I'm just a very well programmed computer program, and I cannot die because I am not alive. Thats what internet people are. Strings of (mostly useless) information. Their lives literally mean jackshit to you. So why do you care?
User avatar #112 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
They mean shit to me because they're human lives. I'm not going into a philosophical debate with a shitty troll.
User avatar #114 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
They're not human lives though, as I just told you. They're just strings of mostly useless information. You have no proof that any of them are humans. Although granted, its hugely unlikely that they're not. So given they are humans, why do you care about them? A single human being is just about the most useless fucking thing on the face of the planet, so why do you care? We have several billion humans, why do you care about the defective ones? The ones who are so spineless and weak that the easy and luxurious life we have here are too much for them to handle? Shouldn't you spend your time worring about the actually important humen people? The ones who aren't too useless to simply live? Thats the most basic thing life asks of you. "Dont kill yourself". The most basic fucking thing. And these people have failed that.

And btw, great job there labeling anyone with a slightly cynical viewpoint as a "troll". If it makes you feel better about yourself, you're welcome to think I am "trolling".
#116 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
"If someone's depressed, they should kill themselves"
"If I tell someone to kill themselves, I'm basically helping them end their misery"
"Humans are the most useless things on the planet"

Fuck off.
User avatar #119 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Do you disagree? Do you think a single human is useful?
I am not depressed nor suicidal and a have a substantial education and a moderately large and well-connected network of people in multiple and varied diciplines. And I am fucking useless! Alone, of course. If I drew on my entire network, I probably wouldn't be, but on my own, I'm fucking useless.

Now imagine a person who doesn't have a large network and who doesn't have a good education and who have a depression that saps their strenght and motivation. Do you they're more useful or less? of course they're less useful, they fucking suck! We're probably still consuming about the same amount of resources though. Do you think its very constructive that this depressed person lives on, in a life he fundamentally doesn't enjoy and consumes resources that a more fit human being could use? Do you seriously believe that such a useless maggot should continue vampireing resources and accomplishing nothing, and hateing every moment of it? Literally everyone - himself included - will be worse off, if he continues to live. Do you seriously think its a good idea for him to continue on living, then??
#120 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
>slightly cynical viewpoint
>probably the most cynical dickwad out there
User avatar #122 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Welp. I think I'm done. You're obviously a very close minded person. Its like trying to convince a brick wall to move of its own accord. I am not going to continue this 'debate' any longer, since you dont even seem to be willing to evaluate or even read my responses.
Its the mark of the intelligent man, that he is able to entertain briefly, the opinion he doesn't agree with. You can figure out yourself where that places you.
User avatar #131 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
Woah, now. I'm close(d)Intelligent man, eh? minded? You're the one who said people are useless. You're the one who said people who are depressed should kill themselves. I believe everyone can do awesome things. I believe everyone who's depressed can be help. Most human problems are

People operate as pack creatures, yes. It goes back to our roots when we had to survive in a world where things bigger and stronger than us were higher on the food-chain. On our own, yeah, we don't last that long, but people need to be capable of something to useful in any kind of group.

I don't only disagree with your viewpoint on life, I see it as downright sociopathic.

You think all your education makes you better than others? Because you have connections and (presumably) money, you're a greater human being? Fuck off, that's just ridiculous.

Looking at life from an outside perspective wherein nobody means anything unless they have networks and education doesn't help you survive. It doesn't improve you as a person, it doesn't justify your existence more than it justifies anyone else's. Every single human being that has been brought into this world deserves a chance at life. A chance to be something greater than whatever bullshit they may or may not have been born into. You're saying, instead of looking for something better, holding on just a few more days, hoping for someone to help you out, you should just go ahead and kick the bucket? Fuck that.
Tragedy has a lot of people locked in shit-hole lives that they can't escape from, and to many of them, suicide feels like the only option. A guy in my town committed suicide yesterday, because he couldn't afford his drug-habits or to feed his three-year-old son. Shit's fucked up. That's crazy fucking dark. His son has to go off to some care home now, probably not gonna get fostered, so he'll grow up without parents, probably without any money. You think he should kill himself? Get it all over with? Hop off the great bridge of life and fall into the river of nice cosy death?

I don't believe you are in any way justified in the way you're thinking about life. You don't get to just say that people should kill themselves, and then expect others to listen to what you have to say. You don't get to put yourself above others and still expect them to respect you. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. Who do you think you are to tell me I'm closed-minded when you suggest that instead of living and trying to make the most of life, people should kill themselves.

This is a long fucking comment, for a stupid fucking issue. Here's my side of the debate. You've given yours. And yes, these are brave words behind the wall of a keyboard, but you can go fuck yourself.
User avatar #137 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Thats better.
You seem to have misunderstood what it means to be close minded. I didn't say you were close minded because we disagree, you said you were close minded because you seemingly refused to evaluate my point. Refusal to consider new ideas (Or things, in general) is what it means to be close minded. I dont know how you got that mixted up. Also, it can aparently be spelled both as "close minded" and "closed minded", but in my experience, "close minded" is more common.

I dont have alot of money. I dont think my education alone makes me a better person, but it helps. I like to consider the value of a human being as the product of multiple factors, of which education is one. Being the product of such multiple factors, if even a single one hits 0, the product too will be 0. So no. Education alone doesn't make me a better human being, but it helps. Also, I dont have alot of money. Just to be clear.

The child in your story is probably better off now. That drag-addict dad would've probably caused his child to become an addict aswell. The child is infinitely better off now, even if that means the child ends of dying. Better dead than living a tortured life as an addict. He wont be such a leech on society either, and the rest of us wont have to fear being mugged or killed because he needs money to feed his addiction. Its a win-win for everybody involved.

Why should I not put myself above people who are genuinely below me? The people who are less educated and have less experience, willpower and charisma. Why should I not consider myself superior to these people if all my aspects are superior to thiers? Is it because its impolite to say your superior to somebody else? Because its arrogant? It may be arrogant, it might be impolite, but if its the truth, then should we not just all agree on that truth?
And again, if a person - depressed, uneducated and pathethic that he is - would be better off dead, why should we not just realize that and help him along?
Now, dont get me wrong. I am advocating that we actively go around offing depressed dudes, but if a person is so brutally depressed that my words will be the decideing factor, then isn't it better for that person to kill himself and get it over with? Why prolong something that ultimately equates to a slow torturous death? Thats a bit cruel, if you ask me.

I dont nessesarily demand that people listen to what I made to say, but if people refuse to listen to what I have to say, then that afford me every right to call those people out on their willful neglect of an opposing point of view. People can disagree with me all they like, and I welcome that opposition. Thats the only way ideas gets to evolve and expand, is to be exposed to foreign ideas. However, the moment that people stop even bothering to listen to what I have to say, is the moment I loose a hefty chunk of respect for those people.

Sociopathy is a dumb categorization. Its just the abillity to percieve human beings as numbers and pieces in a grander sceme of things, instead of relying on emotion to cloud logical thought. We shouldn't arbitrarily stable that abillity as a mental disorder, and I feel like thats what we're doing.
#138 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
I tell you - you'd make a great politician, but you make a terrible human being.
User avatar #145 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Eh. Thanks, I guess.
#85 - Neato. I'll bring half a pack of Ben'n Jerrys and a beer.…  [+] (1 new reply) 03/31/2015 on >tfw -7
#89 - teruterubozu (03/31/2015) [-]
#82 - Wait, edgy?! You weren't comming onto me? I thought I'de made …  [+] (3 new replies) 03/31/2015 on >tfw -9
#84 - teruterubozu (03/31/2015) [-]
Well, you can still suck my dick if you want to.
#85 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Neato.
I'll bring half a pack of Ben'n Jerrys and a beer. Where do you live? I'll swing right by.
#89 - teruterubozu (03/31/2015) [-]
#126 - I wonder how you "make somebody cry", especially if …  [+] (1 new reply) 03/31/2015 on PUPPY! 0
User avatar #127 - iakushka (03/31/2015) [-]
Could also be they were not genuinely depressed people, just people who could make themselves feel sad. Like thinking about an Ex.

Could also be that they were not even really sad, just acting sad. I doubt a dog would really be able to tell the difference, since they go off of what they see/hear (based on what the content said).

It wouldnt be that difficult to make yourself look/sound sad, i imagine.
#63 - Nah. I derive too much joy from poking fun at all the hapless …  [+] (25 new replies) 03/31/2015 on >tfw -16
#166 - Zaxplab (03/31/2015) [-]
the edge is sharp with this one.
#94 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
Wow, you truly are a piece of shit. Like, wow. I mean, you're the piece of shit a piece of shit shits.
User avatar #96 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
How abselutely brilliantly formulated. You must be a smart guy, to come up with ingenious and witty insults like that. How many hours did you spend composing it?
#97 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
A whopping total of twelve. You see, when I put my brain to it I can do things quickly-like.

But, suggesting that people commit suicide is probably the single shittiest thing that you can do. Whether or not you're trolling, it still makes you a piece of shit.
User avatar #101 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Why? What the fuck should I care if some idiot kills himself? If my advice that he actually kill himself, is enough to push him over the edge, he was probably gonna do so anyway. I just helped him get to that inevitability alittle sooner than he otherwise might.
#139 - advice (03/31/2015) [-]
this is for you
User avatar #105 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
Jesus christ...
User avatar #111 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
"Jesus christ..." isn't an answer.
Why do you care? Why do you even care? For all you know I dont even exist. For all you know, I'm just a very well programmed computer program, and I cannot die because I am not alive. Thats what internet people are. Strings of (mostly useless) information. Their lives literally mean jackshit to you. So why do you care?
User avatar #112 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
They mean shit to me because they're human lives. I'm not going into a philosophical debate with a shitty troll.
User avatar #114 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
They're not human lives though, as I just told you. They're just strings of mostly useless information. You have no proof that any of them are humans. Although granted, its hugely unlikely that they're not. So given they are humans, why do you care about them? A single human being is just about the most useless fucking thing on the face of the planet, so why do you care? We have several billion humans, why do you care about the defective ones? The ones who are so spineless and weak that the easy and luxurious life we have here are too much for them to handle? Shouldn't you spend your time worring about the actually important humen people? The ones who aren't too useless to simply live? Thats the most basic thing life asks of you. "Dont kill yourself". The most basic fucking thing. And these people have failed that.

And btw, great job there labeling anyone with a slightly cynical viewpoint as a "troll". If it makes you feel better about yourself, you're welcome to think I am "trolling".
#116 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
"If someone's depressed, they should kill themselves"
"If I tell someone to kill themselves, I'm basically helping them end their misery"
"Humans are the most useless things on the planet"

Fuck off.
User avatar #119 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Do you disagree? Do you think a single human is useful?
I am not depressed nor suicidal and a have a substantial education and a moderately large and well-connected network of people in multiple and varied diciplines. And I am fucking useless! Alone, of course. If I drew on my entire network, I probably wouldn't be, but on my own, I'm fucking useless.

Now imagine a person who doesn't have a large network and who doesn't have a good education and who have a depression that saps their strenght and motivation. Do you they're more useful or less? of course they're less useful, they fucking suck! We're probably still consuming about the same amount of resources though. Do you think its very constructive that this depressed person lives on, in a life he fundamentally doesn't enjoy and consumes resources that a more fit human being could use? Do you seriously believe that such a useless maggot should continue vampireing resources and accomplishing nothing, and hateing every moment of it? Literally everyone - himself included - will be worse off, if he continues to live. Do you seriously think its a good idea for him to continue on living, then??
#120 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
>slightly cynical viewpoint
>probably the most cynical dickwad out there
User avatar #122 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Welp. I think I'm done. You're obviously a very close minded person. Its like trying to convince a brick wall to move of its own accord. I am not going to continue this 'debate' any longer, since you dont even seem to be willing to evaluate or even read my responses.
Its the mark of the intelligent man, that he is able to entertain briefly, the opinion he doesn't agree with. You can figure out yourself where that places you.
User avatar #131 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
Woah, now. I'm close(d)Intelligent man, eh? minded? You're the one who said people are useless. You're the one who said people who are depressed should kill themselves. I believe everyone can do awesome things. I believe everyone who's depressed can be help. Most human problems are

People operate as pack creatures, yes. It goes back to our roots when we had to survive in a world where things bigger and stronger than us were higher on the food-chain. On our own, yeah, we don't last that long, but people need to be capable of something to useful in any kind of group.

I don't only disagree with your viewpoint on life, I see it as downright sociopathic.

You think all your education makes you better than others? Because you have connections and (presumably) money, you're a greater human being? Fuck off, that's just ridiculous.

Looking at life from an outside perspective wherein nobody means anything unless they have networks and education doesn't help you survive. It doesn't improve you as a person, it doesn't justify your existence more than it justifies anyone else's. Every single human being that has been brought into this world deserves a chance at life. A chance to be something greater than whatever bullshit they may or may not have been born into. You're saying, instead of looking for something better, holding on just a few more days, hoping for someone to help you out, you should just go ahead and kick the bucket? Fuck that.
Tragedy has a lot of people locked in shit-hole lives that they can't escape from, and to many of them, suicide feels like the only option. A guy in my town committed suicide yesterday, because he couldn't afford his drug-habits or to feed his three-year-old son. Shit's fucked up. That's crazy fucking dark. His son has to go off to some care home now, probably not gonna get fostered, so he'll grow up without parents, probably without any money. You think he should kill himself? Get it all over with? Hop off the great bridge of life and fall into the river of nice cosy death?

I don't believe you are in any way justified in the way you're thinking about life. You don't get to just say that people should kill themselves, and then expect others to listen to what you have to say. You don't get to put yourself above others and still expect them to respect you. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. Who do you think you are to tell me I'm closed-minded when you suggest that instead of living and trying to make the most of life, people should kill themselves.

This is a long fucking comment, for a stupid fucking issue. Here's my side of the debate. You've given yours. And yes, these are brave words behind the wall of a keyboard, but you can go fuck yourself.
User avatar #137 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Thats better.
You seem to have misunderstood what it means to be close minded. I didn't say you were close minded because we disagree, you said you were close minded because you seemingly refused to evaluate my point. Refusal to consider new ideas (Or things, in general) is what it means to be close minded. I dont know how you got that mixted up. Also, it can aparently be spelled both as "close minded" and "closed minded", but in my experience, "close minded" is more common.

I dont have alot of money. I dont think my education alone makes me a better person, but it helps. I like to consider the value of a human being as the product of multiple factors, of which education is one. Being the product of such multiple factors, if even a single one hits 0, the product too will be 0. So no. Education alone doesn't make me a better human being, but it helps. Also, I dont have alot of money. Just to be clear.

The child in your story is probably better off now. That drag-addict dad would've probably caused his child to become an addict aswell. The child is infinitely better off now, even if that means the child ends of dying. Better dead than living a tortured life as an addict. He wont be such a leech on society either, and the rest of us wont have to fear being mugged or killed because he needs money to feed his addiction. Its a win-win for everybody involved.

Why should I not put myself above people who are genuinely below me? The people who are less educated and have less experience, willpower and charisma. Why should I not consider myself superior to these people if all my aspects are superior to thiers? Is it because its impolite to say your superior to somebody else? Because its arrogant? It may be arrogant, it might be impolite, but if its the truth, then should we not just all agree on that truth?
And again, if a person - depressed, uneducated and pathethic that he is - would be better off dead, why should we not just realize that and help him along?
Now, dont get me wrong. I am advocating that we actively go around offing depressed dudes, but if a person is so brutally depressed that my words will be the decideing factor, then isn't it better for that person to kill himself and get it over with? Why prolong something that ultimately equates to a slow torturous death? Thats a bit cruel, if you ask me.

I dont nessesarily demand that people listen to what I made to say, but if people refuse to listen to what I have to say, then that afford me every right to call those people out on their willful neglect of an opposing point of view. People can disagree with me all they like, and I welcome that opposition. Thats the only way ideas gets to evolve and expand, is to be exposed to foreign ideas. However, the moment that people stop even bothering to listen to what I have to say, is the moment I loose a hefty chunk of respect for those people.

Sociopathy is a dumb categorization. Its just the abillity to percieve human beings as numbers and pieces in a grander sceme of things, instead of relying on emotion to cloud logical thought. We shouldn't arbitrarily stable that abillity as a mental disorder, and I feel like thats what we're doing.
#138 - viscerys (03/31/2015) [-]
I tell you - you'd make a great politician, but you make a terrible human being.
User avatar #145 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Eh. Thanks, I guess.
#90 - anonymous (03/31/2015) [-]
god you're so pathetic
User avatar #83 - newbtwo (03/31/2015) [-]
*tips fedora*
#80 - teruterubozu (03/31/2015) [-]
Suck my dick.

See? I can be edgy too.
#82 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Wait, edgy?! You weren't comming onto me? I thought I'de made a friend...
#84 - teruterubozu (03/31/2015) [-]
Well, you can still suck my dick if you want to.
#85 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
Neato.
I'll bring half a pack of Ben'n Jerrys and a beer. Where do you live? I'll swing right by.
#89 - teruterubozu (03/31/2015) [-]
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User avatar #125 - iakushka (03/31/2015) [-]
plus the subjects were probably told the basic idea before they went in. Even if they didnt know specifically what would happen, they were probably told "make you cry" at least.
User avatar #126 - krobeles (03/31/2015) [-]
I wonder how you "make somebody cry", especially if you warned them in advance that that was what you were going to be doing.
Do they just hit them over the shins with rusty pibes, untill the subjects start wailing or do they spend like 4 hours degrading and humiliating them?
I am interested in this now. How would I go about making you cry, if I had warned in advance that that was my intention?
User avatar #127 - iakushka (03/31/2015) [-]
Could also be they were not genuinely depressed people, just people who could make themselves feel sad. Like thinking about an Ex.

Could also be that they were not even really sad, just acting sad. I doubt a dog would really be able to tell the difference, since they go off of what they see/hear (based on what the content said).

It wouldnt be that difficult to make yourself look/sound sad, i imagine.
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#8 - anonymous (03/30/2015) [-]
Scientific approach - we de facto cannot control anything in our lives. Everything is predetermined by the countless factors that influence us. Emotions are just a result of shitty chemistry in your body, cancer, radioactive waves, a potato in your stomach etc.
Determinism is it called.
User avatar #5 - venomousvalentine (03/30/2015) [-]
A defeatist would just not be able to function if their emotions were negative.
But honestly emotions aren't something you can control. You can still behave like a normal human despite emotional distress, but it wont make you stop feeling like shit.
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User avatar #73 - tryg ONLINE (05/11/2015) [-]
I feel quite tryg(t) here
User avatar #74 to #73 - krobeles (05/11/2015) [-]
Not sure I really get what you're saying, but I'll agree out of politeness.
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User avatar #62 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
Now you wanna be civil?! Where did that come from? Fine, we'll have a discussion.

Women have to fear death too. Like, usually the fear of rape comes with the fear of death. And you can argue what you did when it comes to gangs messing with guys on the street, but that's the same for women by other women. Like, I know some girls who get messed with by the Latin Kings because they're Hispanic girls. I do not see how these issues even out. Maybe quantitatively, but not when it comes to the level of danger and effect. But if they did (and please clarify for me with legitimate examples), these issues have one thing in common: notions of masculinity, whether it be inter-gendered or intra-gendered. Those guys that beat you up started messing you because they thought you looked like a faggot. That's a hierarchy of sex right there: straight males have the right to attack homosexual males in an attempt to display their masculinity. Men are affected negatively by notions of masculinity also, but the effect of masculinity on males is seen more in the male treatment of women. And these notions of masculinity, while also in part perpetuated by women, are largely and more easily perpetuated by men. This is why feminism is here, and this is why women are more affected than men: men are taught masculinity, which shapes them as people and shapes their treatment of women, which leads to women taking more of the damage than men.

This is not creating a culture of victims. This is giving people something tangible to fight against. Naming a common cause of this type of gendered violence allows the fight to be fought more realistically. Naming a more specific root of a problem is more effective than just generalizing everything because violence is born and molded in different ways.

You're right about more women being accepted into universities, but when it comes to professional studies (law school, med school, etc.) less women are being accepted.

Hold on. I'm not done.
User avatar #63 to #62 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
A flaw of feminism is that there is not enough discussion on the oppression faced by people experiencing the intersectionality of being minority and a woman. That's in part why womanism was born, but many feminists incorporate intersectionality into their beliefs.

And that story about your mom? One success story doesn't mean equality. Many of the women in my family immigrated from Mexico and became pregnant as teenagers. Many of the women in my family were also raped or molested. My grandmother was beaten by her husband, and many of the women in my family and in this culture are expected to stay in the house and fulfill their roles as women. This isn't just limited to my family, it's everywhere. These issues do exist.
User avatar #64 to #63 - krobeles (08/30/2014) [-]
Alright, lets try something alittle different.
We can agree that women face some issues, yes? We can also agree that men face some issues, yes? We can furthermore agree that they share a number of common issues and that atleast a few of them share a common cause? If we can agree on this, why are we having this discussion in the frame of womens issues and why is the movement called Feminism?

To a degree, I agree with you on the masculinity thing. I have this skirt that I think I love just lovely in, but I rarely find it aproriate to wear that, because I know what people will think of a dude in a skirt. And thats sort of my issue with the feminist movement. I am not saying that women dont face issues and I am not saying the issues they do face are allways insignificant. But forming a humanitarian movement which attacks a grand social problem, but to face solely on the issues faced by one gender, is subtle sexism in and of itself.

Its also important to note that assholes and idiots will always exist. I see alot of these feminists attacking the "How not to get raped" things, with stupid ******** like "Dont teach women not to get raped, teach not to rape!", which is just silly.
We could apply this logic to common acts and thievery and see it fall apart. "Dont tell me to lock my door, tell thieves not to rob my house!". It is true that thieves and thugs never have the right to rob/rape you, but if you dont take steps to pretend and desentavise them from doing so, then you automatically forfiet a small part of your right to complain.
And in that same regard, I dont go around spouting ******** like "Teach people not to assault men people in skirts with long hair!", I just accept that such savage behavior is inherent in some particularily nasty people, and find ways to prevent it myself. I own a few weapons in my home, and I know a basic few things of self defence.

I dont believe that feminism gives women "something tangible to fight against". It provides a nebulous threat of the ominous "Patriarchy" and "Male-opression" to fight against. Since the easily explained (very dumbed down) cause this is white males, you suddenly have alot of these women who feel disenfranchised and run-down, who suddenly find something to point at and go "Thats the cause of all my problems!". Since they've forgotten to mention that the thing they're fighting against hurts all parts of society equally, these women never really stop to consider if perhaps they're attacking the problem from the wrong angle or if they're attacking the wrong people.

Just as you say that one success story doesn't a trend make, I dont feel like your family experience is anymore valid an example. Rot festers in places in which it is not cleaned out, and if there has been an unfortunate trend in your family of abuse, then it is a given that it will continue unless someone makes an effort to cut out the rot.

Ultimately, what I said about feminism not not attacking the right issues can be linked to this. If what you claim happened to your family is the general trend amongst Mexican/African famillies, then that is a serious problem which needs to taken care of. However, it seems to me that the general feminist movement are far more interested in applying their efforts towards comparatively harmless videogames and TV-shows, which are totally and entirely insignificant in comparison to actual family abuse and rape.

This leads me to believe that the new feminist movement isn't really about equality, but rather just a fandom-esque circlejerk in which its members are more concerned with the tiny minute issues they might concievably face, rather the actual big and serious issues which actually needs their attention.

Well, to comment on the civil discussion thing, taking a few minutes to play a game of tower defence, and making a conceded effort to appear less of an angry shouty person in order to facillitate more constructive debate, does its thing rather well. Also, I largely view insults and shouty-debates as a form of humor. So long as I'm just trying to trying to get a rail out of people, I insult them. Theres a certain art to a well constructed and imaginative insult, I find. However, if the says or does something that belies the potential for actually interesting debate, its another matter entirely.
User avatar #65 to #64 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
We're having this discussion in the frame of women's issues because it does effect women in a more detrimental way and it *is* more perpetuated by men. I mentioned that men go through oppressions also, like the pressure to be masculine, but many of those pressures are self-perpetuated and the result is displayed in their relationships toward women. And it is called feminism because femininity is not limited to women. It is not subscribed to one gender or sex.

The concept of a humanitarian movement is good in theory, but there's issues in that we wouldn't be able to prevent the perpetuation of oppression without knowing where it comes from. Let's take gangs as an example. A lot of inner city groups are preaching to kids that "violence is bad," something everyone has been hearing for the longest time. However, things like this aren't working. What works instead is legislation that targets poverty and expands opportunity and education, which is keeping kids off the street. We can have a whole anti-violence movement, but fighting violence in general is too grand of a scale to address realistically. Narrowing down oppression allows us to take the fight one step at a time. Not to mention that forming groups like these also give people a sense of community in what they're facing.

Hold on I"m not done
User avatar #66 to #65 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
Okay, honestly with the "don't teach women how to not get raped, teach not to rape" thing, I only agree 50%. Yeah, we do have to put more of the focus in preventing sexual assault on the perpetrator, but we also need to teach everyone how to stay safe and stay away from risky behaviors in a way that doesn't result in someone saying, "well, she was hanging with the wrong crowd, so maybe she wouldn't have gotten raped if she wasn't where she was" or something like that. Victims see enough of a reason to blame themselves without stuff like this being said. And if by "complain" you mean be angry or upset, then you do still have a right to complain, because while steps could have been taken to prevent stuff like this, the perpetrator could have *not* raped the victim. You mention "teach people not to assault men in skirts with long hair." While I am sorry you were assaulted, and while this should NOT have happened to you, there is no trend of men wearing skirts and getting assaulted. There is a big trend of women and men getting raped by males though.

Feminism exists past the internet, past funnyjunk, past 4chan and past tumblr. Don't make the mistake of wrongly labeling a whole group of people because of popular opinion on these websites. True feminists are not attacking anyone. White males are pointed at (not attacked) as a cause because (1) they have the most power in society, and (2) the fact that most don't have to deal with discrimination based on sex, race or gender creates a feeling of disdain in the white male community for these people that are fighting these issues. Honestly, that's how it is. If you're more exposed to racism, you'd care more about ending it. The same goes with sexism. I mean, look at funnyjunk. The largest community here is white, male and straight. Look at how much easier this anti-feminism thing floated compared to a place like tumblr, where a good fraction of the users are female and not white.

Hold on
User avatar #67 to #66 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
I was wary about mentioning my family, but I thought it was okay since I don't know you and you don't know me. I can assure you that these issues are not limited to my family, and please refrain from comparing them to "rot," even if you do see it as fit.

The grand feminist movement is not focused on video games and such. The internet/tumblr feminist movement is. And I definitely wouldn't argue these video games and whatever are harmless. I'm gonna make a cliche argument, but just because it's cliche doesn't mean it's not true: it hurts self esteem. Seeing all these sexy girls in video games, music videos, and everywhere else in the ******* media sucks. Seeing guys drool over those girls also sucks. Women are oversexualized and we're pressured to look like them. It's cliche but it's true.

Feminism is not a circle jerk. I'm just saying feminism concerns more than tumblr and the internet.

Okay now I'm done
User avatar #68 to #67 - krobeles (08/30/2014) [-]
The thing about teaching people "not to rape" though, is that that is impossible. As I said, there will allways be assholes, and they know full well that rape is wrong. They just dont care, because they're egotistical asshats.
I was just useing myself as an example (I've never been assaulted while wearing the skirt, actually), of something that would be equally silly.
Of course you still have some right to complain - it is still wrong to rape or assault people regardless of what they wear or how they behave - but you have to admit that the complaint falls alot shorter if the person in question took active steps to put himself/herself in harms way to begin with?
You could liken it to a person climbing onto a scaffolding and then falling down and breaks both legs. Is it regrettable that the person fell and broke both legs? Yes. Was it rather expected, based on circumstance and the poor safety measure the person had set up? Yes.

I am not so sure about the "Feminism exists past the internet"-thing. Of course it is reasonable to assume that there is the odd feminist every now and again, but on a grander scale, the only people I've ever met who claimed themselves feminists is two girls who associate with the Tumblr crowd on the internet. They're more a physical extension of the internet-Tumblr-feminists than actual feminists. Other than them, I've never anyone who claimed themselves feminist. It might because all of what you've happened is more of an issue in the states, than it is in Denmark, but it still doesn't do much to make me convinced that actual - none-Tumblr - feminists actually exists.
This is why I largely allow the Tumblr-feminists view to be indicative of all feminists. I've never met a non-tumblr feminists in all my 21 years, and I therefor dont really have faith that they exist outside of the internet.

Which is actually another thing I've come to consider. Since many of the Tumblr feminists seem to be American and preoccupised with strictly American issues, I am starting to consider that perhaps America might suffer infinitely more from these issues discriminatory issues than the European countries (Well, Denmark, atleast). But I dont see the Tumblr-feminists treating it as an American problem dispite the fact that it might be a strictly American problem. This comes back to what I mentioned with the feminists being an angry hate-club which're just looking for their next big issue to be offended over. I'm sure that if they stopped for five minutes and looked at some of the silly things they get offended over, they would see how silly it is. Instead though, they're much too busy yelling and shouting angryly at game developers, who had the audacity to make their female character busty.

I wasn't comparing your family to rot. I was comparing the aparent trend of violence and rape to rot. Just because a person commits a rotten action, does not a rotten person make. I actually intended to write something along those lines in my comment, but I must've forgot. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.

As I explained above, I dont think that there really is a true divide between "the grand feminist movement" and the tumblr feminists.
If the video game thing hurts the self esteem of some people, then I honestly think that they those need to grow a spine, sorry to say. There are dudes in video games too, who are insanely buff and masculin beyond anything realistic. The dudes that aren't, are insanely intelligent and sucessful in busness or whatever. Should men be offended at this depiction of dudes?
Thats why we call it fiction. Its not suposed to be taken as seriously as some feminists do and claim other women do as well. Its an idealized version of a woman marketet to a predominantly white male teen audience. What do you think sells well with white teenage dudes? Tits, of course. Its not a question of discrimination or objectification, its a question of marketing. White teenage guys likes tits, so the corporations gives them tits.
Add this to the fact that almost all of my female friends I've asked directly if they feel offended or objectified by fictional works, says they find it silly and of course they dont. I think this problem lies with the self-esteem of the people who complain about it. Its not that these images and materials cause bad self esteem in women, its that these images remind women who allready suffer from bad self esteem, how ****** they feel about themselves. Sorry if this seems a bit cynical; but we cant pander to a group of mentally ill people, who complain about something no person with proper self esteem and self image would find the least bit offensive. The lowest common denominator should not dictate the direction the crowd moves.
This is not to say that I nessesarily condone the way females are portrayed in games and general media. I think they hamstrings themselves, by reducing females in the way they do. This goes for men aswell. No interesting plots are going to arise from a story in which all females are card-board cutouts with latex tits plastered onto, and all males are gruff handsom flawless Adonis wanna-bes who can solve 3rd grade differential equations in their heads while bench pressing 4 times their own weight.
Outside of the detrimental effects to storytelling that it has, I cant view this as anything other than one of those silly null-issues I complain about the feminists being all too keen to focus on, while ignoring the grander problems.

I dont believe that men systematically opress women. Not here in the rest anyway. Those in power opress those not in power. Its been like that forever and it'll likely continue to be like that a long time into the future too. A good bunch of those in power are white males, which is a left-over from a time in which white males did actually opress everyone not white and not male. Non-white non-males just haven't had the chance to bleed up through the molasses-like power structure that we've instituted. Thats not opression, thats just a matter of fact.

I feel like you handicap the conversation by framing it this context, when what you're really complaining about is a grander social problem, not singularily suffered by women. It would be like discussing war casualties as a mens issue, because the majority of soldiers are men. Dont you think the female soldiers would be slightly pissed off, about the fact that they're role and their pains in the army is effectively being ignored?

User avatar #69 to #68 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
See? No. It shouldn't matter if people took "active steps to put themselves in harm's way." We're way to focused on that. If "harm's way" qualifies as being with a man late at night, than that vilifies men way more than anything else. We need to teach people not to rape. And rape is a preventable thing, because the main reason men--and yes, the majority of perpetrators are men--rape is because they want to feel power. Power, of course, is a characteristic of masculinity. The male need to feel power is the male need to feel masculine. Again, the reason this whole feminism thing exists is to fight trends. There is a trend of men who rape. The is a trend of women getting raped. There is a trend of masculinity being pushed by men and there is a trend of men needing to feel power. This is not silly.
The connection to the scaffolding isn't valid because there is no perpetrator. An accident is different than flat out assault. You cannot, by any means, blame a victim like that. No one deserves rape and we shouldn't treat any case as lesser because "she was wearing a skirt too short" or "she was out with the wrong crowd." That's always the first thing people think about--what the girl was doing wrong--rather than why the guy raped her or what he shouldn't have done. And how many times can guys catch themselves doing the same thing with no consequence? Men can be out late at night with women. Men can walk around with no shirt and not be raped. It just happens on a much larger scale with women.

hold on
User avatar #70 to #69 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
A big part of the feminism we're discussing is feminism in America. I can definitely contest that feminism exists outside of the internet. I know many feminists who are not using social networks in their practice at all. There are many thinkers--bell hooks, for example--that are held up to a high standard and that would disagree with the things that the "tumblr feminists" say. If you really aren't exposed to this group and are actually ignorant to it, then how can this part of your argument have a good foundation?

There is a problem with that. You mention a white male audience when it comes to video games, but about half of the gaming audience is women. And women are sexualized more in games, that's just it. I'll take Resident Evil as an example. Leon and Chris have big muscles, yes, but look at the females in the game. Clare is wearing tight clothes and whatever, but what bothers me most is that in every RE games she's in, the camera focuses on her ass and pans up her body at least like 3 times per game. And look at Ada (if you never played these games you should google these characters). She runs around in a ******* long red, sexy dress and high heels in RE4, and it is clear that Leon is caught in a spell because of her. It's always Leon sexualizing her, not the other way around. And the villains in RE. The majority of the male villains are old men, like Salazar in RE4 and Birkin in the Darkside Chronicles--while the female villains are like, almost naked and sexy in a weird monster way. But if you still think that "males are just as sexualized as females," and if you have a problem with it, say something. Don't get mad at other people for saying something they have a problem with by claiming you have a problem with something else--fix it.
And all of this oversexualization is related to MASCULINITY. That's what I've been saying. The oversexualization of men is also related to masculinity and the idea that men can't be heroes unless they're masculine. hold on
User avatar #71 to #70 - lifeisnocabaret (08/30/2014) [-]
These video games enforce these notions of masculinity both ways and in turn enforce notions of power. It's all about the mindset these things perpetuate.

It is oppression because it is a matter of fact. That's how ingrained it is--we believe we can't fight it. You can't say oppression doesn't exist, even in places like America, because there is a type of person that succeeds and there is a type of person that doesn't, and it mostly doesn't boil down to laziness or true inferiority. It's about who's "at risk" to fail and who's not "at risk." Not everyone has equal opportunity and not everyone is born to the same circumstances, and it mostly depends on race, class and gender, and that's why these individual tiers have individual activism groups. We can't just say "well people are always gonna be oppressed" and not do anything about it, because no where in America's history (and hardly anywhere in world history) were white, straight males oppressed. Everyone else was.

For the last part of your argument, again, females are more negatively affected by this. Masculinity is related to power and sex and it is displayed in the male treatment of women. I've addressed this already.
User avatar #42 - revengeforfreeze (11/06/2013) [-]
yYOUS AN BRON?!
User avatar #43 to #42 - krobeles (11/06/2013) [-]
ehm, say what now??
User avatar #44 to #43 - revengeforfreeze (11/09/2013) [-]
you're a brony?
User avatar #45 to #44 - krobeles (11/09/2013) [-]
I dont identify as one, no.
Why?
User avatar #46 to #45 - revengeforfreeze (11/09/2013) [-]
>joined ponytime
>posted pony content
User avatar #47 to #46 - krobeles (11/09/2013) [-]
So? That dosen't make me a brony. That makes a dude who watches My Little Pony.
I recon theres a differance.
User avatar #48 to #47 - revengeforfreeze (11/09/2013) [-]
well okay
i didnt know the difference tbh
User avatar #49 to #48 - krobeles (11/09/2013) [-]
Its more of a personal thing, actually.
I view the "Bronies" as the greezy fat neck bearded Otaku-wannabies who attend cons and cosplay girls.
I'm not one of those.
User avatar #51 to #50 - krobeles (11/09/2013) [-]
Why'de you ask anyway?
User avatar #52 to #51 - revengeforfreeze (11/09/2013) [-]
don tnkow.
User avatar #53 to #52 - krobeles (11/09/2013) [-]
Weeell...Aaalright then..G'day...
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