Different holsters have different specs which lock the firearm into place until a holster safety is removed ot the gun is jerked a certain way. Right to bear arms allows any individual to open carry by right. Criminals would be less likley to have their gun in a holster to display, rather keep it in a sweater pocket so noone knows that they pose a threat. As far as CC goes, it would do well to include a mandatory holster tequirement, but those things do get expensive. Open carry is bestowed by right in the right to bear arms, no state or federal law can infrenge unless an ammendment is passed to cancel or modify the second ammendment. The puropse of open carry is to allow people to carry their firearms in plain view, for police and other law biding citizens to see and feel secure; like I said, criminals want to conceal their guns which police and people cant see which is why you must have a permit to CC.

there is truth in your words. I guess as long as the holster has some sort of lock I would be ok with it. Please don't get me wrong, I'm a huge supporter of the 2nd amendment and own quite a decent amount of firearms. I just believe that there are many people in this world who are not competent enough to be able to walk around with one in public. I think they should at least require a safety class for OC.

I think that there should be a mandatory firearm safety class given in schools, same as D.A.R.E. with drugs. Firearms are part of life in the United States. We are allowed to buy them just like any candy bar or snack pack, save a background check.

but the second amendment only applies to those who are active members of active militias.

Wrong, nowhere does it state that the right applies exclusively to militias, but that it also applies to legal militias. Its that kind of liberal thinking that is allowing democrats and soccor moms to have their way with elasticising their power over our given rights.

Actually, it says the right to bear arms shall not be infringed upon if the citizen is a member of an regulated militia. People can have guns, hell if permitted people can carry them. But unless they are active members of regulated militia the right can be restricted

caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment02/

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well that amendment assumes that some kind of draft is in force and that if there is a war the people will provide their own weapons to fight against threats to the country. Futhermore if you understood old english you would see that it implies that the guns are to be kept in the home locked away safely until needed to protect the country or your home etc.

It does not imply anything as to how guns are stored or regulated, only that the people have the right to posess them. As for draft, the second ammendment was set in place by the federalists who grounded it under the british rule. The second ammendment is in place primarily to ensure that the people are armed in the case that the government should "become destructive to these ends" as stated in the constitution referring to a corrupt govt which the people had the right to overthrow by force if necessary. Again, these rights shall not be infrenged upon or deluded to suit any agenda that is not that of the people.

nothing you have said contradicts what i said only adds to it. execpt the first sentence which you are flat oue wrong about because back in 1700's it was assumed the guns would be stored in the house.

Back before the widespread use of handguns which were not specified. You are going off assumption, which is not what law is based upon. Firearms may be carried on your person without permit as ruuled by the Supreme Court mandated by the 2nd Amendment. Never was it stated that guns may only be stored i nthe house, therefore nowhere can you find that one cannot carry it; again as the Supreme Court has ruled.

I never said you can't carry it I just said it wasn't expected.

"Futhermore if you understood old english you would see that it implies that the guns are to be kept in the home locked away safely until needed to protect the country or your home etc."
"execpt the first sentence which you are flat oue wrong about because back in 1700's it was assumed the guns would be stored in the house."

Im good at what I do.

so you don't understand the word assumed ?

Only when you say im wrong for not considering assumptions which are never implied, then I assume you consider them part of the law; which they are not.

well since neither of us are from the 1700s the argumnt will never be settled.

What argument? The second ammendment is set in stone. People have the right to keep and -"bear"- arms meaning they have the right to carry openly and without impedment. It is not implied that people are to keep their weapons at home because it is never hinted to or stated, a liberal concept which is constantly shot down because it has no backing; and if it has not backing then it has no credibility as part of the law.

I did not know that had occurred that way, I was simply going off of what was written.

I admit defeat you have bested me today good sir.

Many have fallen to the depths of red thumbing their opponents in defeat. You have restored my daith in internet arguments. I therefore thumb you.

I am a man of honor, and so I acknowledge my defeats and accept them,. Thank you for the thumb

I think there may be a different kind of feeling of being trapped, since you're basically trapped in the sky.

You have every right to disagree.
Good day.

It wasn't me, my friend.
I rarely thumb anything either way.
However, what I was trying to say was that he could wait until the storm dies down before calling for a boat.
Thumbed you back up, by the way.

you sir, made me feel like an ass. I'm sorry, and I may be wrong, but I still respectfully disagree.

You have every right to disagree.
Good day.

Or a boat...

not in that surf, bud. a boat would get slammed to pieces. thanks for the down thumb, because you apparently don't realize how surf works.

It wasn't me, my friend.
I rarely thumb anything either way.
However, what I was trying to say was that he could wait until the storm dies down before calling for a boat.
Thumbed you back up, by the way.

you sir, made me feel like an ass. I'm sorry, and I may be wrong, but I still respectfully disagree.

You have every right to disagree.
Good day.

Actually I just copied the examples from the upload-page, where it says "eg. cars, crashes", because I didn't know what to write...

And you're on FJ rather than mourning? Good decision.

they weren't close friends, just people who I sometimes joked around with and hanged out with at school. and besides, what if this is my way of coping with it? what am I supposed to do? curl up into a ball? besides, it happened before, when I was in 7th grade. after that I kind of just accepted the fact that anyone can die at anytime. I guess it's my way of putting up a mental barrier.

I hear ya bro.. baked 5 l!fe.

<- This sh!t right here symbolizes my life, what I stand for, what we must FIGHT for!

yea man, YOLO!

Lemme try something..

And I love some good weed with my scotch.

awww yeah bro I love to get totally baked with my friends and then tell stories and get drunk, thumb up if you like to get high too.

I hear ya bro.. baked 5 l!fe.

<- This sh!t right here symbolizes my life, what I stand for, what we must FIGHT for!

yea man, YOLO!

I'm not a big fan of Bourbon myself, it's too sweet, an have one glass but not more.

Scotch is my favorite, since it's so mild I find it easy to locate the flavours, like in Glengoyne you can get the taste of almost like caramelized apples (just to pick one of the many) and in Johnyy Walker Black, you get that rich smoky flavour.

Who the fuck would thumb us down? people talk about weed and get to frontpage, but I can't share my opinion from dabbling with alcohol with another without being thumbed down?

Lemme try something..

And I love some good weed with my scotch.

awww yeah bro I love to get totally baked with my friends and then tell stories and get drunk, thumb up if you like to get high too.

I hear ya bro.. baked 5 l!fe.

<- This sh!t right here symbolizes my life, what I stand for, what we must FIGHT for!

yea man, YOLO!

Yeah, the same could be said tbh

Naacp? I'm Norwegian, so I don't get all the abbrevations.

National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

Yeah, the same could be said tbh

Catholism is not the first. Orthodox Christians are the first...but it might impossible to be Orthodox these days because of what you said..The Bible has possibly been edited by a horrible person in a horrible way..to control the people..but of course there is a chance that they didn't..honestly only the Catholic Pope know because he holds the original Bible...The point is, why be christian if you believe the Bible has been edited? How do you know what is edited? or do you believe whatever is most convenient to you?..Maybe you are actually right, honestly, there is chance..but there is no way of really knowing...the best bet is to just follow the Bible as it is...and you know what, i know that sounds incredibly ignorant, and i sound brain washed..but it is what it is...i won't be able to say i'm christian if i don't trust the Bible completely..even the smallest details..again, i'm sorry..but there's just no where to go with this debate..

it is ok, my friend, to each his own, that is the beauty of religion.

i was baptized but now im an atheist i like to be spirtual/ agnostic sometimes but just because you were baptized doesn't mean you have to be christian but any way im not here to force anything upon you religion/philosophy is some thing every one needs to figure out

I was curious since you seem to be quite against the core doctrinal tripe spewed by the church. I had known of people who disagreed with the church as you seem to, but believed in a god, they considered themselves spiritual. Thank you for being what Christianity claims to be. Hats off to you sir.

Not necessarily you. I was making fun of 90% of the comments of the page and how they all say the same thing. Yours was just the one I decided to take it out on. It's nothing personal and I respect your beliefs. It was just one of the many posts that ended up starting to sound very repetitive.

ah, then no harm no foul, I suppose.

You're not really informed about the religion huh...At least it doesn't seem like it much...These christian religions that you talk about, the ones that have to confess to a priest?..I believe you're talking about Catholics..which is actually a very un-christian religion..You actually are suppose to confess to god...i mean, you could always use someone else to help you confess..but the priest isn't some ultra holy, closer to god than you are, kind of guy..in the Bible, everyone is equal..No one is better than you..and no one can tell you His will unless it's straight from the bible, like lying, murder, and stealing...He doesn't want any of that for example, it's said in the Bible, so i can say it to you.. Abortion's and Homosexuality are also against God's will (homosexual can be debated though)..You could think gay's are born gay..but of course in the end that's just an opinion...Because according to the Bible, and If you were Christian, you wouldn't and shouldn't condone Homosexuality...You don't have to hate them, i have plenty of gay friends, and they're pretty hilarious, but by being Christian, and following His words, i shouldn't really like it..(Although i admit to give this one a break, it's their choice in my opinion, God still doesn't like it though) Also, if you truly think that the Bible has false prophets, then you're doubting God...Which is a huge sin, you can't say you're Christian and then say the Bible could be false at the same time...i'm sorry..but you need to be according to the Bible, it's His main way of talking to you, God isn't really into that if you think otherwise..And i'm not telling you his will..I'm just saying what's in the Bible, which you should have read, because that is where his will is told, unless you have a different belief, that goes against the words from his book....But If you do, then oh well..You should really start calling yourself something other than a whole hearten Christian..(BTW baptism doesn't make you special).

yes, I know it was catholism, I just didn't want to call it out. and really? not christian? Catholism was the first christian religion. you do realize the bible has been re-written several times too right? specifically during the medieval ages, when the church would just try to manipulate people. you really think there isn't at least one thing or two that was changed to manipulate the people?

Catholism is not the first. Orthodox Christians are the first...but it might impossible to be Orthodox these days because of what you said..The Bible has possibly been edited by a horrible person in a horrible way..to control the people..but of course there is a chance that they didn't..honestly only the Catholic Pope know because he holds the original Bible...The point is, why be christian if you believe the Bible has been edited? How do you know what is edited? or do you believe whatever is most convenient to you?..Maybe you are actually right, honestly, there is chance..but there is no way of really knowing...the best bet is to just follow the Bible as it is...and you know what, i know that sounds incredibly ignorant, and i sound brain washed..but it is what it is...i won't be able to say i'm christian if i don't trust the Bible completely..even the smallest details..again, i'm sorry..but there's just no where to go with this debate..

it is ok, my friend, to each his own, that is the beauty of religion.

Why not just call yourself spiritual then?

Idk, I guess because I've been baptised, and I do belief in other christian beliefs.

i was baptized but now im an atheist i like to be spirtual/ agnostic sometimes but just because you were baptized doesn't mean you have to be christian but any way im not here to force anything upon you religion/philosophy is some thing every one needs to figure out

I was curious since you seem to be quite against the core doctrinal tripe spewed by the church. I had known of people who disagreed with the church as you seem to, but believed in a god, they considered themselves spiritual. Thank you for being what Christianity claims to be. Hats off to you sir.

Hey guys, stop hating Christians we're not all bad. See? I'm cool. I don't hate gay people! I'm a cool christian who has new and innovative ideas! See? Guys?


love me

not sure if you're trying to make fun of me, but no. I accept the fact that a pretty large majority of christians are huge genocidal assholes. most are very bad, and bad things are done "in the name of the lord"

Not necessarily you. I was making fun of 90% of the comments of the page and how they all say the same thing. Yours was just the one I decided to take it out on. It's nothing personal and I respect your beliefs. It was just one of the many posts that ended up starting to sound very repetitive.

ah, then no harm no foul, I suppose.