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#128 - To be a christian, you have to put Jesus before all. Roman Cat…  [+] (2 new replies) 07/08/2012 on You said it, not me. 0
User avatar #147 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
Just re read the last sentence ignore it it is a little assholeish.
User avatar #146 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
I am not a catholic any longer because of many of the hypocrisies and i took a bible to the brain, it needs less dragons and shit.

Every sect of Christianity picks and chooses what they follow, for example would you stone an unruly child? and before you say old testament was different, you would still follow the ten commandments. Christians take what they like and use what others like but they don't to bash people of other believes or lack there of, you are no less hypocritical than Catholics, they have turned on some of their traditions and belief but they still believe in Jesus therefore by definition are christian.

All of it is nonsense anyway lol.
#127 - Where did I say you have to follow it word for word? Obviously…  [+] (1 new reply) 07/08/2012 on You said it, not me. 0
User avatar #132 - memeinmycoffee (07/08/2012) [-]
Aren't you supposed to respect mother and father?

Wasn't Mary Jesus' mother?

They respect her, but they do not worship her. It is a religion about Jesus, to claim that it is focused on the Virgin Mary is absolutely incorrect. Perhaps there is greater focus than other denominations, but to suggest that they value her more than Jesus is wrong.

Nevertheless, it's all bullshit, what does it matter how each sect of bullshit bullshits differently?
#119 - You're missing a key point here. Based on the Bible, the very …  [+] (22 new replies) 07/08/2012 on You said it, not me. -2
#126 - daxelin (07/08/2012) [-]
I'm sorry but If I watch Starwars and decide that the rebels are indeed the good guys etc. while my neighbour watches starwars and for some reasons decides the empire are actually the good guys and the rebels are just trying to fuck them up, aren't be both still watch starwars? Clear that up for me cause your point confuses me.
#129 - juckinfunk (07/08/2012) [-]
You're correct though. The problem is, you're watching star wars and their watching star trek. They in an entirely different movie
#130 - daxelin (07/08/2012) [-]
Same book, same characters, same climax, same ending, same story son. Christianity came first, therefore it's still christianity only perceived different. I'm not trying to be an ass to you or sound intolerant of your opinions, but to argue that catholocism isn't just christianity with extra hot sauce is like trying to say that star trek and starwars are the same thing. I suggest you give up on your foolish quest to reassure yourself that you are correct before you get your feelings hurt.
#131 - juckinfunk (07/08/2012) [-]
Here's the problem. I'm not saying Catholics are not Christians. If you believe Christ comes first you are. But the Roman Catholic Church is not a Christian church based on the Bible. The core of Christianity. I don't understand where the confusion is? They interpret Christianity based on things that are not in the Bible. Doesn't matter if they call themselves a Christian Church, the Bible says NO. Where am I confusing you?
User avatar #134 - whyfalsewhy (09/03/2012) [-]
Your logic is flawed here as Christianity in all its forms are a break off of Catholicism, it was the catholic church that created the bible as most know it today, there are many other books that didn't make the cut, the actual scriptures are countless and what you are reading as the bible is something a bunch of cardinals voted to put together, it stems mostly from the stories that were most often preached and thought in mass.
#135 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
If they wrote it, then why do they reject some of the core teachings that define Christianity? Like Jesus being savior. You think if they had wrote it, they would have fit it to their beliefs...
User avatar #136 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
They did not write it, they simply took books from the scriptures and put them together, there are many other books that did not make it past the vote to get into the bible.

It is the same as Christianity and the old testament teachings, they are Jewish teachings not christian ones.
#137 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
Okay. And my statement was that the roman catholic church in its current form is not a Christian establishment. They reject Jesus as their savior and thank St. mary mother of Jesus for all their well being and good fortunes in life. Yet the very bible they teach from says the only way is to accept Jesus Christ as your savior. A Christian is someone who accepts the teachings of christ and accepts him as their savior. I'm not saying if you're a catholic you're not a christian. I'm saying the current Head Roman Catholic church is not a christian church because they reject the one thing you must accept to be christian. I understand this is opposite of what they say and what you've been taught. But look up the facts. The pope himself stated he owed his life to mary mother of jesus. Not JESUS. That's about as obvious as it gets
User avatar #138 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
The catholic belief is that Jesus saved us all from our sins, essentially saving us from damnation after death, in the catholic church it goes without saying that Jesus has saved us as he has helped to spare us from hell if we choose to follow him, Catholics do not need reminding of this fact as it comes as part of their faith, unlike other forms of Christianity they don't constantly abuse the name Jesus to justify their faith, they also worship Mary as she was the mother of god, the Trinity says that God Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one being, so in fact if anyone who believes in Catholicism even in fact blesses themselves they are praying to god, this in turn because of the Trinity means they a praying and worshiping Jesus.

No matter what way you turn it in Catholicism the fact that you put your faith in god and accept god into your heart also means you are placing Jesus in your heart as they are one.

Mary in the Catholic faith has appeared in countless visions and helped to turn people away from evil, this is why she is worshiped and the pope would claim she saved him.
#143 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
Just a small list of things the Bible strictly forbids and they clearly go against it. Which they claim to preach from. They break so many laws the Bible lays down. It's only pathetic to call them a Christian establishment. Sorry
#141 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the mother of God.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Mary is the mother of the earthly Jesus, not God. Jesus pre- existed from everlasting as God (see John 1:1). When he came to redeem mankind, he laid aside his glory and was made like unto sinful man so that he could take our punishment (Hebrew 2:9). God has no mother. He has lived from everlasting which means he had no beginning.

CATHOLIC TRADITION - Purgatory, nuns, popes.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - None of these is mentioned in the Bible. It is a sin to add to the Bible.

CATHOLIC TRADITION - Venerating/worshipping images. Pope bows to statues of Mary, Catholics worship the eucharist and have statues/candles in their homes and churches.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - It is idolatry to venerate images. We are not even supposed to make them.

Exodus
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God...
[Note: Exodus 20:4-5 is the second of the ten commandments found in Exodus 20. Roman Catholics often learn the ten commandments, not straight from the Bible but from another source like a poster or a workbook. This Roman Catholic "traditional way of enumerating the ten commandments"
#140 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary never had other children after the Lord Jesus. She remained a perpetual virgin.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - After Mary delivered our precious Lord Jesus Christ into the world, Joseph did know his wife. Joseph and Mary indeed had children together, plenty of them. They were the Lord's half brothers and sisters for their father was Joseph and mother was Mary.

Matthew 1:24-25 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: And knew her not TILL she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
Matthew
13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?

Mark
6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the queen of heaven.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Worshipping the queen of heaven (which is not the Mary of the Bible) is worshipping another god and it provokes the Lord to anger.

Jeremiah
7:17 Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem?
7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
7:19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?
User avatar #142 - bible (09/04/2012) [-]
Hello there.
User avatar #145 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
hi
#144 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
Lol
#139 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Call priests father, e.g., Father McKinley.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -
Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Forbidding the priesthood to marry.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -
1) It is a doctrine of devils to forbid God's people to marry.
1 Timothy
4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, GIVING HEED TO seducing spirits, and DOCTRINES OF DEVILS;
4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
4:3 FORBIDDING TO MARRY, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
2) Peter was married (remember the pope is supposedly continuing the apostolic line through Peter).
Matthew
8:14 And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever.
Mark
1:30 But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever, and anon they tell him of her.
Luke
4:38 And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon's house. And Simon's wife's mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her.
3) Paul, a great apostle, remained single; however he made it very clear that he could marry if he wanted to.
1 Corinthians
9:5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?
#128 - juckinfunk (07/08/2012) [-]
To be a christian, you have to put Jesus before all. Roman Catholicism puts Mary first. It's very simple
User avatar #147 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
Just re read the last sentence ignore it it is a little assholeish.
User avatar #146 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
I am not a catholic any longer because of many of the hypocrisies and i took a bible to the brain, it needs less dragons and shit.

Every sect of Christianity picks and chooses what they follow, for example would you stone an unruly child? and before you say old testament was different, you would still follow the ten commandments. Christians take what they like and use what others like but they don't to bash people of other believes or lack there of, you are no less hypocritical than Catholics, they have turned on some of their traditions and belief but they still believe in Jesus therefore by definition are christian.

All of it is nonsense anyway lol.
User avatar #122 - memeinmycoffee (07/08/2012) [-]
Show me one sect of Christianity that still preaches everything the way it "should be taught". One sect that hasn't deviated at all.
#127 - juckinfunk (07/08/2012) [-]
Where did I say you have to follow it word for word? Obviously churches have their differences, that is why there are so many different denominations. Catholics cannot be considered Christians based on certain beliefs that go against the Bible. Not because of some things don't follow. But because of some things they have created. Putting Mary before Jesus is indeed non-christian because Christianity is about JESUS. He is savior. When the pope says everything in his life is owed to The Virgin Mary. That is indeed putting her before Jesus. What am I missing here? What don't you quite see? Yes you're right, not all Churches follow the Bible dead on because of interpretation of certain scriptures. I'm not saying they do. But Roman Catholicism goes AGAINST what the Bible teaches.
User avatar #132 - memeinmycoffee (07/08/2012) [-]
Aren't you supposed to respect mother and father?

Wasn't Mary Jesus' mother?

They respect her, but they do not worship her. It is a religion about Jesus, to claim that it is focused on the Virgin Mary is absolutely incorrect. Perhaps there is greater focus than other denominations, but to suggest that they value her more than Jesus is wrong.

Nevertheless, it's all bullshit, what does it matter how each sect of bullshit bullshits differently?
#113 - Haha! And anyone who has looked deeper than the basics should …  [+] (26 new replies) 07/08/2012 on You said it, not me. -2
User avatar #121 - flamingpinkbunnies (07/08/2012) [-]
Catholics don't "worship" Mary. They respect her like a saint or holy person. Please, PLEASE get your facts straight before you go spouting off shit.
User avatar #133 - whyfalsewhy (09/03/2012) [-]
Hail Mary, full of grace.
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou amongst women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

Catholics do worship Mary, i should know i was one, until i actually read the bible.
User avatar #114 - memeinmycoffee (07/08/2012) [-]
That doesn't make them not Christian, it just makes them hypocritical. And they don't worship Mary, they treat her as a saint.

It is Christianity, it's just a particularly stupid breed of it.
#119 - juckinfunk (07/08/2012) [-]
You're missing a key point here. Based on the Bible, the very Bible that they preach out of, they are indeed not Christians. They have Countless unbiblical traditions and in 1991 Pope Fatima he visited the Statue of Virgin Mary in Portugal and said that he owed everything he had and everything he was to the Virgin Mary, giving her credit for sparing his life when he was shot earlier in his reign. They do indeed put Mary before Jesus. Based on the teachings of Roman Catholicism and what the Bible has to say, they are indeed not Christian. I have a huge book on Roman doctrine and how it conflicts with the teachings of Christianity. I know my religions. I've studied them all.
#126 - daxelin (07/08/2012) [-]
I'm sorry but If I watch Starwars and decide that the rebels are indeed the good guys etc. while my neighbour watches starwars and for some reasons decides the empire are actually the good guys and the rebels are just trying to fuck them up, aren't be both still watch starwars? Clear that up for me cause your point confuses me.
#129 - juckinfunk (07/08/2012) [-]
You're correct though. The problem is, you're watching star wars and their watching star trek. They in an entirely different movie
#130 - daxelin (07/08/2012) [-]
Same book, same characters, same climax, same ending, same story son. Christianity came first, therefore it's still christianity only perceived different. I'm not trying to be an ass to you or sound intolerant of your opinions, but to argue that catholocism isn't just christianity with extra hot sauce is like trying to say that star trek and starwars are the same thing. I suggest you give up on your foolish quest to reassure yourself that you are correct before you get your feelings hurt.
#131 - juckinfunk (07/08/2012) [-]
Here's the problem. I'm not saying Catholics are not Christians. If you believe Christ comes first you are. But the Roman Catholic Church is not a Christian church based on the Bible. The core of Christianity. I don't understand where the confusion is? They interpret Christianity based on things that are not in the Bible. Doesn't matter if they call themselves a Christian Church, the Bible says NO. Where am I confusing you?
User avatar #134 - whyfalsewhy (09/03/2012) [-]
Your logic is flawed here as Christianity in all its forms are a break off of Catholicism, it was the catholic church that created the bible as most know it today, there are many other books that didn't make the cut, the actual scriptures are countless and what you are reading as the bible is something a bunch of cardinals voted to put together, it stems mostly from the stories that were most often preached and thought in mass.
#135 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
If they wrote it, then why do they reject some of the core teachings that define Christianity? Like Jesus being savior. You think if they had wrote it, they would have fit it to their beliefs...
User avatar #136 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
They did not write it, they simply took books from the scriptures and put them together, there are many other books that did not make it past the vote to get into the bible.

It is the same as Christianity and the old testament teachings, they are Jewish teachings not christian ones.
#137 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
Okay. And my statement was that the roman catholic church in its current form is not a Christian establishment. They reject Jesus as their savior and thank St. mary mother of Jesus for all their well being and good fortunes in life. Yet the very bible they teach from says the only way is to accept Jesus Christ as your savior. A Christian is someone who accepts the teachings of christ and accepts him as their savior. I'm not saying if you're a catholic you're not a christian. I'm saying the current Head Roman Catholic church is not a christian church because they reject the one thing you must accept to be christian. I understand this is opposite of what they say and what you've been taught. But look up the facts. The pope himself stated he owed his life to mary mother of jesus. Not JESUS. That's about as obvious as it gets
User avatar #138 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
The catholic belief is that Jesus saved us all from our sins, essentially saving us from damnation after death, in the catholic church it goes without saying that Jesus has saved us as he has helped to spare us from hell if we choose to follow him, Catholics do not need reminding of this fact as it comes as part of their faith, unlike other forms of Christianity they don't constantly abuse the name Jesus to justify their faith, they also worship Mary as she was the mother of god, the Trinity says that God Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one being, so in fact if anyone who believes in Catholicism even in fact blesses themselves they are praying to god, this in turn because of the Trinity means they a praying and worshiping Jesus.

No matter what way you turn it in Catholicism the fact that you put your faith in god and accept god into your heart also means you are placing Jesus in your heart as they are one.

Mary in the Catholic faith has appeared in countless visions and helped to turn people away from evil, this is why she is worshiped and the pope would claim she saved him.
#143 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
Just a small list of things the Bible strictly forbids and they clearly go against it. Which they claim to preach from. They break so many laws the Bible lays down. It's only pathetic to call them a Christian establishment. Sorry
#141 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the mother of God.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Mary is the mother of the earthly Jesus, not God. Jesus pre- existed from everlasting as God (see John 1:1). When he came to redeem mankind, he laid aside his glory and was made like unto sinful man so that he could take our punishment (Hebrew 2:9). God has no mother. He has lived from everlasting which means he had no beginning.

CATHOLIC TRADITION - Purgatory, nuns, popes.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - None of these is mentioned in the Bible. It is a sin to add to the Bible.

CATHOLIC TRADITION - Venerating/worshipping images. Pope bows to statues of Mary, Catholics worship the eucharist and have statues/candles in their homes and churches.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - It is idolatry to venerate images. We are not even supposed to make them.

Exodus
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God...
[Note: Exodus 20:4-5 is the second of the ten commandments found in Exodus 20. Roman Catholics often learn the ten commandments, not straight from the Bible but from another source like a poster or a workbook. This Roman Catholic "traditional way of enumerating the ten commandments"
#140 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary never had other children after the Lord Jesus. She remained a perpetual virgin.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - After Mary delivered our precious Lord Jesus Christ into the world, Joseph did know his wife. Joseph and Mary indeed had children together, plenty of them. They were the Lord's half brothers and sisters for their father was Joseph and mother was Mary.

Matthew 1:24-25 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: And knew her not TILL she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
Matthew
13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?

Mark
6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the queen of heaven.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Worshipping the queen of heaven (which is not the Mary of the Bible) is worshipping another god and it provokes the Lord to anger.

Jeremiah
7:17 Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem?
7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
7:19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?
User avatar #142 - bible (09/04/2012) [-]
Hello there.
User avatar #145 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
hi
#144 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
Lol
#139 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Call priests father, e.g., Father McKinley.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -
Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Forbidding the priesthood to marry.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -
1) It is a doctrine of devils to forbid God's people to marry.
1 Timothy
4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, GIVING HEED TO seducing spirits, and DOCTRINES OF DEVILS;
4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
4:3 FORBIDDING TO MARRY, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
2) Peter was married (remember the pope is supposedly continuing the apostolic line through Peter).
Matthew
8:14 And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever.
Mark
1:30 But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever, and anon they tell him of her.
Luke
4:38 And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon's house. And Simon's wife's mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her.
3) Paul, a great apostle, remained single; however he made it very clear that he could marry if he wanted to.
1 Corinthians
9:5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?
#128 - juckinfunk (07/08/2012) [-]
To be a christian, you have to put Jesus before all. Roman Catholicism puts Mary first. It's very simple
User avatar #147 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
Just re read the last sentence ignore it it is a little assholeish.
User avatar #146 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
I am not a catholic any longer because of many of the hypocrisies and i took a bible to the brain, it needs less dragons and shit.

Every sect of Christianity picks and chooses what they follow, for example would you stone an unruly child? and before you say old testament was different, you would still follow the ten commandments. Christians take what they like and use what others like but they don't to bash people of other believes or lack there of, you are no less hypocritical than Catholics, they have turned on some of their traditions and belief but they still believe in Jesus therefore by definition are christian.

All of it is nonsense anyway lol.
User avatar #122 - memeinmycoffee (07/08/2012) [-]
Show me one sect of Christianity that still preaches everything the way it "should be taught". One sect that hasn't deviated at all.
#127 - juckinfunk (07/08/2012) [-]
Where did I say you have to follow it word for word? Obviously churches have their differences, that is why there are so many different denominations. Catholics cannot be considered Christians based on certain beliefs that go against the Bible. Not because of some things don't follow. But because of some things they have created. Putting Mary before Jesus is indeed non-christian because Christianity is about JESUS. He is savior. When the pope says everything in his life is owed to The Virgin Mary. That is indeed putting her before Jesus. What am I missing here? What don't you quite see? Yes you're right, not all Churches follow the Bible dead on because of interpretation of certain scriptures. I'm not saying they do. But Roman Catholicism goes AGAINST what the Bible teaches.
User avatar #132 - memeinmycoffee (07/08/2012) [-]
Aren't you supposed to respect mother and father?

Wasn't Mary Jesus' mother?

They respect her, but they do not worship her. It is a religion about Jesus, to claim that it is focused on the Virgin Mary is absolutely incorrect. Perhaps there is greater focus than other denominations, but to suggest that they value her more than Jesus is wrong.

Nevertheless, it's all bullshit, what does it matter how each sect of bullshit bullshits differently?
#99 - Based on the definition of Christian, Catholics are not Christ…  [+] (32 new replies) 07/08/2012 on You said it, not me. -11
User avatar #120 - flamingpinkbunnies (07/08/2012) [-]
Catholics are indeed Christians. Christianity is the root of all religions that believe in following Jesus' teachings, just like Baptist, Protestant, Lutheran, Methodist, etc.
User avatar #106 - regaesnhoj (07/08/2012) [-]
Catholicism is a branch, Christianity is the tree.
User avatar #105 - Marker, master of the jews (07/08/2012) [-]
Catholicism is a branch of Christianity. Anyone with a basic understanding of religious sects knows that.
#113 - juckinfunk (07/08/2012) [-]
Haha! And anyone who has looked deeper than the basics should know that Catholics are indeed not Christians based on what the bible says. Atleast not the head catholic church. They worship Mary mother of Jesus and have been known to have a cross with mary on it instead of Jesus. I know for a fact Roman Catholics are indeed not Christian. They may call themselves Christians but based on what the Bible says is considered to be a Chrstian, they are indeed not. They go against the Bible they claim to preach out of in so many areas it's ridiculous.
User avatar #121 - flamingpinkbunnies (07/08/2012) [-]
Catholics don't "worship" Mary. They respect her like a saint or holy person. Please, PLEASE get your facts straight before you go spouting off shit.
User avatar #133 - whyfalsewhy (09/03/2012) [-]
Hail Mary, full of grace.
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou amongst women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

Catholics do worship Mary, i should know i was one, until i actually read the bible.
User avatar #114 - memeinmycoffee (07/08/2012) [-]
That doesn't make them not Christian, it just makes them hypocritical. And they don't worship Mary, they treat her as a saint.

It is Christianity, it's just a particularly stupid breed of it.
#119 - juckinfunk (07/08/2012) [-]
You're missing a key point here. Based on the Bible, the very Bible that they preach out of, they are indeed not Christians. They have Countless unbiblical traditions and in 1991 Pope Fatima he visited the Statue of Virgin Mary in Portugal and said that he owed everything he had and everything he was to the Virgin Mary, giving her credit for sparing his life when he was shot earlier in his reign. They do indeed put Mary before Jesus. Based on the teachings of Roman Catholicism and what the Bible has to say, they are indeed not Christian. I have a huge book on Roman doctrine and how it conflicts with the teachings of Christianity. I know my religions. I've studied them all.
#126 - daxelin (07/08/2012) [-]
I'm sorry but If I watch Starwars and decide that the rebels are indeed the good guys etc. while my neighbour watches starwars and for some reasons decides the empire are actually the good guys and the rebels are just trying to fuck them up, aren't be both still watch starwars? Clear that up for me cause your point confuses me.
#129 - juckinfunk (07/08/2012) [-]
You're correct though. The problem is, you're watching star wars and their watching star trek. They in an entirely different movie
#130 - daxelin (07/08/2012) [-]
Same book, same characters, same climax, same ending, same story son. Christianity came first, therefore it's still christianity only perceived different. I'm not trying to be an ass to you or sound intolerant of your opinions, but to argue that catholocism isn't just christianity with extra hot sauce is like trying to say that star trek and starwars are the same thing. I suggest you give up on your foolish quest to reassure yourself that you are correct before you get your feelings hurt.
#131 - juckinfunk (07/08/2012) [-]
Here's the problem. I'm not saying Catholics are not Christians. If you believe Christ comes first you are. But the Roman Catholic Church is not a Christian church based on the Bible. The core of Christianity. I don't understand where the confusion is? They interpret Christianity based on things that are not in the Bible. Doesn't matter if they call themselves a Christian Church, the Bible says NO. Where am I confusing you?
User avatar #134 - whyfalsewhy (09/03/2012) [-]
Your logic is flawed here as Christianity in all its forms are a break off of Catholicism, it was the catholic church that created the bible as most know it today, there are many other books that didn't make the cut, the actual scriptures are countless and what you are reading as the bible is something a bunch of cardinals voted to put together, it stems mostly from the stories that were most often preached and thought in mass.
#135 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
If they wrote it, then why do they reject some of the core teachings that define Christianity? Like Jesus being savior. You think if they had wrote it, they would have fit it to their beliefs...
User avatar #136 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
They did not write it, they simply took books from the scriptures and put them together, there are many other books that did not make it past the vote to get into the bible.

It is the same as Christianity and the old testament teachings, they are Jewish teachings not christian ones.
#137 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
Okay. And my statement was that the roman catholic church in its current form is not a Christian establishment. They reject Jesus as their savior and thank St. mary mother of Jesus for all their well being and good fortunes in life. Yet the very bible they teach from says the only way is to accept Jesus Christ as your savior. A Christian is someone who accepts the teachings of christ and accepts him as their savior. I'm not saying if you're a catholic you're not a christian. I'm saying the current Head Roman Catholic church is not a christian church because they reject the one thing you must accept to be christian. I understand this is opposite of what they say and what you've been taught. But look up the facts. The pope himself stated he owed his life to mary mother of jesus. Not JESUS. That's about as obvious as it gets
User avatar #138 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
The catholic belief is that Jesus saved us all from our sins, essentially saving us from damnation after death, in the catholic church it goes without saying that Jesus has saved us as he has helped to spare us from hell if we choose to follow him, Catholics do not need reminding of this fact as it comes as part of their faith, unlike other forms of Christianity they don't constantly abuse the name Jesus to justify their faith, they also worship Mary as she was the mother of god, the Trinity says that God Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one being, so in fact if anyone who believes in Catholicism even in fact blesses themselves they are praying to god, this in turn because of the Trinity means they a praying and worshiping Jesus.

No matter what way you turn it in Catholicism the fact that you put your faith in god and accept god into your heart also means you are placing Jesus in your heart as they are one.

Mary in the Catholic faith has appeared in countless visions and helped to turn people away from evil, this is why she is worshiped and the pope would claim she saved him.
#143 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
Just a small list of things the Bible strictly forbids and they clearly go against it. Which they claim to preach from. They break so many laws the Bible lays down. It's only pathetic to call them a Christian establishment. Sorry
#141 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the mother of God.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Mary is the mother of the earthly Jesus, not God. Jesus pre- existed from everlasting as God (see John 1:1). When he came to redeem mankind, he laid aside his glory and was made like unto sinful man so that he could take our punishment (Hebrew 2:9). God has no mother. He has lived from everlasting which means he had no beginning.

CATHOLIC TRADITION - Purgatory, nuns, popes.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - None of these is mentioned in the Bible. It is a sin to add to the Bible.

CATHOLIC TRADITION - Venerating/worshipping images. Pope bows to statues of Mary, Catholics worship the eucharist and have statues/candles in their homes and churches.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - It is idolatry to venerate images. We are not even supposed to make them.

Exodus
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God...
[Note: Exodus 20:4-5 is the second of the ten commandments found in Exodus 20. Roman Catholics often learn the ten commandments, not straight from the Bible but from another source like a poster or a workbook. This Roman Catholic "traditional way of enumerating the ten commandments"
#140 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary never had other children after the Lord Jesus. She remained a perpetual virgin.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - After Mary delivered our precious Lord Jesus Christ into the world, Joseph did know his wife. Joseph and Mary indeed had children together, plenty of them. They were the Lord's half brothers and sisters for their father was Joseph and mother was Mary.

Matthew 1:24-25 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: And knew her not TILL she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
Matthew
13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?

Mark
6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the queen of heaven.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Worshipping the queen of heaven (which is not the Mary of the Bible) is worshipping another god and it provokes the Lord to anger.

Jeremiah
7:17 Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem?
7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
7:19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?
User avatar #142 - bible (09/04/2012) [-]
Hello there.
User avatar #145 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
hi
#144 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
Lol
#139 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Call priests father, e.g., Father McKinley.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -
Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Forbidding the priesthood to marry.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -
1) It is a doctrine of devils to forbid God's people to marry.
1 Timothy
4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, GIVING HEED TO seducing spirits, and DOCTRINES OF DEVILS;
4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
4:3 FORBIDDING TO MARRY, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
2) Peter was married (remember the pope is supposedly continuing the apostolic line through Peter).
Matthew
8:14 And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever.
Mark
1:30 But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever, and anon they tell him of her.
Luke
4:38 And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon's house. And Simon's wife's mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her.
3) Paul, a great apostle, remained single; however he made it very clear that he could marry if he wanted to.
1 Corinthians
9:5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?
#128 - juckinfunk (07/08/2012) [-]
To be a christian, you have to put Jesus before all. Roman Catholicism puts Mary first. It's very simple
User avatar #147 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
Just re read the last sentence ignore it it is a little assholeish.
User avatar #146 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
I am not a catholic any longer because of many of the hypocrisies and i took a bible to the brain, it needs less dragons and shit.

Every sect of Christianity picks and chooses what they follow, for example would you stone an unruly child? and before you say old testament was different, you would still follow the ten commandments. Christians take what they like and use what others like but they don't to bash people of other believes or lack there of, you are no less hypocritical than Catholics, they have turned on some of their traditions and belief but they still believe in Jesus therefore by definition are christian.

All of it is nonsense anyway lol.
User avatar #122 - memeinmycoffee (07/08/2012) [-]
Show me one sect of Christianity that still preaches everything the way it "should be taught". One sect that hasn't deviated at all.
#127 - juckinfunk (07/08/2012) [-]
Where did I say you have to follow it word for word? Obviously churches have their differences, that is why there are so many different denominations. Catholics cannot be considered Christians based on certain beliefs that go against the Bible. Not because of some things don't follow. But because of some things they have created. Putting Mary before Jesus is indeed non-christian because Christianity is about JESUS. He is savior. When the pope says everything in his life is owed to The Virgin Mary. That is indeed putting her before Jesus. What am I missing here? What don't you quite see? Yes you're right, not all Churches follow the Bible dead on because of interpretation of certain scriptures. I'm not saying they do. But Roman Catholicism goes AGAINST what the Bible teaches.
User avatar #132 - memeinmycoffee (07/08/2012) [-]
Aren't you supposed to respect mother and father?

Wasn't Mary Jesus' mother?

They respect her, but they do not worship her. It is a religion about Jesus, to claim that it is focused on the Virgin Mary is absolutely incorrect. Perhaps there is greater focus than other denominations, but to suggest that they value her more than Jesus is wrong.

Nevertheless, it's all bullshit, what does it matter how each sect of bullshit bullshits differently?
#103 - anonymous (07/08/2012) [-]
are you fucking retarded? Catholics are Christians you dip shit.
User avatar #102 - wisdombranch (07/08/2012) [-]
Catholicism is not a cult, bro. They are Christian... though they have some... somewhat odd... interpretations of certain scripture passages.
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User avatar #180 - elemenohpe (07/08/2012) [-]
I just started doing this stuff, but I did change my eating habits. I haven't worked out as much as I want to cause our home gym atm is full of furniture (dont ask) so I can't get on the treadmill, bowflex let alone even get to the dumbbells
#169 - alexzerian (07/08/2012) [-]
How long did it take, because I was in Swimming, Track and field, and Cross country in my school. I even went to the gym with my dad for about 12 days and did protein powder and still look fat. Although I am fast and strong, getting a faster miletime then about 93% of the class. (6:54)
#316 - juckinfunk (07/08/2012) [-]
Try to go easy on the protein and supplement type stuff. Especially the whey protein. Those tend to add unwanted water weight. Took me about 3 months to really start looking significantly better though and that was just running everyday (in 103+ degrees) and I did push ups and crunches every single night. Also, try not to eat anything after about 5 o clock and if you do, make sure it isn't loaded with carbs. Try to eat all your heavy carb stuff before or by noon (or for your lunch meal.) Also, try not to eat unless your stomach is legitimately growling at you. Most of the time when you think you're hungry, you're really not. Most people mistaken thirst for hunger. If you find yourself to be hungry, drink a bottle of water to see if that suppresses the hunger. You should also drink water as often throughout the day as possible anyway though.

If you are doing workouts, like with weights and what not. You gotta confuse your muscles. Work different muscles every day instead of just doing em all everyday (but always do abs everyday) and I highly recommend a weightless work out video (workout video that doesn't require lots of weights. Maybe small hand weights and what not). They seem gay and corny, but they get results. My girlfriend used to be just little but no muscle. She wasn't skinny like to the bone, but she was little and without muscle, She was just thin. She did a 12 week workout and now she has abs and toned muscles everywhere! So she started me on it with her and I'm already seeing changes in ways I never thought possible. So if you have the money, I recommend it.

The biggest thing is, don't get discouraged! Even if you slip up a day or a so. Just act like it didn't happen and continue on. People lose weight differently, so stay with it and you'll see results soon enough. I promise. Add me as a friend and if you have anymore questions, PM me and I'll be glad to give you pointers and tips and cover any questions you have! I love to help because I was there
#326 - alexzerian (07/08/2012) [-]
Thank you
#157 - skyryth (07/08/2012) [-]
Exactly. It's that simple. All I did was crunches, push ups, a little bit of running, and swimming. I still sit inside all day and haven't changed my eating habits. The best feeling in the world is looking at the difference between an old picture of me and now.
#320 - juckinfunk (07/08/2012) [-]
Exactly, I still ate burgers and fries and anything else I wanted and didn't eat all that healthy. I cut out soda. That was my biggest thing I gave up. I ran everyday. Did crunches and push ups every night and that was it. And I still do it. It's amazing how much easier it gets as you continue to do it. I stay in much better shape now though because I'm a college athlete so now I don't have much of a choice. I've tried to convince my coach that I don't need to do all his crazy ass workouts and that all I needa do is run and do push ups and crunches but he won't buy it. Haha.
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