its total BS but atleast theres a cannon reason as to how it could happen. if in the next movie they're like "Rey has even more medichlorians than anakin shes God" then it'll make sense. its still a deus ex machina but it fits with cannon.

At that point might as well just say "You know what? Let's just shit on Star Wars. Let's put literal turds as main characters. Who cares about character growth, or achievements on their own or plot? Just say force lol"

Yeah the force is a thing that can easilby exploited for deus ex bullshit, but that's what makes the difference between a good story and a bad story. The OT and even the PT to an extent (even though they were horrible) understood that the Force, while magic, is mainly a tool for the main characters to use. Not some magical solution that decides for itself. Otherwise the whole Light Side, Dark Side conflict wouldn't even make sense at all. Because if the force itself decided the good side was good, then it would be entirely pointless to have a bad side.

I'm slowly getting the feeling even the Prequels were better movies than TFA. I wonder how people will remember it after the hype dies down

hes the only human who can do it because he has good reactions and the force guides him. same principle can be applied to rey using the saber, especially because shes his granddaughter.

Yeah. Except for the fact that she fought a dude who ALSO uses the force and is ALSO his grandson and was trained by Luke Skywalker himself and Snoke and she overpowered him with no experience at all.
Might as well take Anakin and have him cut Darth Maul in half, because "lol force".

And this doesn't even remotely compare to the "Rey suddenly knows how to control peoples minds and succeeds with it" bullshit

its total BS but atleast theres a cannon reason as to how it could happen. if in the next movie they're like "Rey has even more medichlorians than anakin shes God" then it'll make sense. its still a deus ex machina but it fits with cannon.

At that point might as well just say "You know what? Let's just shit on Star Wars. Let's put literal turds as main characters. Who cares about character growth, or achievements on their own or plot? Just say force lol"

Yeah the force is a thing that can easilby exploited for deus ex bullshit, but that's what makes the difference between a good story and a bad story. The OT and even the PT to an extent (even though they were horrible) understood that the Force, while magic, is mainly a tool for the main characters to use. Not some magical solution that decides for itself. Otherwise the whole Light Side, Dark Side conflict wouldn't even make sense at all. Because if the force itself decided the good side was good, then it would be entirely pointless to have a bad side.

I'm slowly getting the feeling even the Prequels were better movies than TFA. I wonder how people will remember it after the hype dies down

but anakin could podrace without knowing about it

It wasn't the first time Anakin podraced.

hes the only human who can do it because he has good reactions and the force guides him. same principle can be applied to rey using the saber, especially because shes his granddaughter.

Yeah. Except for the fact that she fought a dude who ALSO uses the force and is ALSO his grandson and was trained by Luke Skywalker himself and Snoke and she overpowered him with no experience at all.
Might as well take Anakin and have him cut Darth Maul in half, because "lol force".

And this doesn't even remotely compare to the "Rey suddenly knows how to control peoples minds and succeeds with it" bullshit

its total BS but atleast theres a cannon reason as to how it could happen. if in the next movie they're like "Rey has even more medichlorians than anakin shes God" then it'll make sense. its still a deus ex machina but it fits with cannon.

At that point might as well just say "You know what? Let's just shit on Star Wars. Let's put literal turds as main characters. Who cares about character growth, or achievements on their own or plot? Just say force lol"

Yeah the force is a thing that can easilby exploited for deus ex bullshit, but that's what makes the difference between a good story and a bad story. The OT and even the PT to an extent (even though they were horrible) understood that the Force, while magic, is mainly a tool for the main characters to use. Not some magical solution that decides for itself. Otherwise the whole Light Side, Dark Side conflict wouldn't even make sense at all. Because if the force itself decided the good side was good, then it would be entirely pointless to have a bad side.

I'm slowly getting the feeling even the Prequels were better movies than TFA. I wonder how people will remember it after the hype dies down

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**thismustbeseen rolls Teenage pregnancy.**

Purging.

and rey meditated for like 2 seconds and then let the force act through her. even if luke could see the droid he couldnt block it with that good accuracy by himself.

The difference here is that nobody taught Rey how to use the force. Rey learned how to use the force... through the force.
Luke not being able to block it before using the force just further shows that you have to actively use it and it doesn't just decide to guide you.

but anakin could podrace without knowing about it

It wasn't the first time Anakin podraced.

hes the only human who can do it because he has good reactions and the force guides him. same principle can be applied to rey using the saber, especially because shes his granddaughter.

Yeah. Except for the fact that she fought a dude who ALSO uses the force and is ALSO his grandson and was trained by Luke Skywalker himself and Snoke and she overpowered him with no experience at all.
Might as well take Anakin and have him cut Darth Maul in half, because "lol force".

And this doesn't even remotely compare to the "Rey suddenly knows how to control peoples minds and succeeds with it" bullshit

its total BS but atleast theres a cannon reason as to how it could happen. if in the next movie they're like "Rey has even more medichlorians than anakin shes God" then it'll make sense. its still a deus ex machina but it fits with cannon.

At that point might as well just say "You know what? Let's just shit on Star Wars. Let's put literal turds as main characters. Who cares about character growth, or achievements on their own or plot? Just say force lol"

Yeah the force is a thing that can easilby exploited for deus ex bullshit, but that's what makes the difference between a good story and a bad story. The OT and even the PT to an extent (even though they were horrible) understood that the Force, while magic, is mainly a tool for the main characters to use. Not some magical solution that decides for itself. Otherwise the whole Light Side, Dark Side conflict wouldn't even make sense at all. Because if the force itself decided the good side was good, then it would be entirely pointless to have a bad side.

I'm slowly getting the feeling even the Prequels were better movies than TFA. I wonder how people will remember it after the hype dies down

The liberals are the democrats. It's not that you have liberals, conservatives, republicans, and democrats. If you lean liberal on the political scale then you are a democrat. If you lean conservative on the political scale then you are a republican. There's no need for democrats to form a coalition with liberals because all of the liberals (<--Not a political party) are already democrats (<--A political party).