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#86 - OW OW OW OW OW! 22 hours ago on Reaction images +1
#223 - The way that I understood it is that when the event was announ… 01/27/2015 on Iceland 0
#214 - Now if there were examples of "fighting words" then … 01/27/2015 on Iceland 0
#206 - It isn't from a legal perspective as much as it is from a mora…  [+] (17 new replies) 01/27/2015 on Iceland 0
User avatar #219 - anonymoose (01/27/2015) [-]
The people distributing the tickets didn't only give them to people who didn't want to go. There was no attempt to stop people who wanted to go from going, they still had the opportunity to get a ticket when they were available.
User avatar #234 - leonhardt (01/27/2015) [-]
I guess you missed the part where the arena was fucking empty.
User avatar #237 - anonymoose (01/27/2015) [-]
If I was there and wanted to go, I could have got a ticket, no one was stopping anyone who wanted to go getting a ticket. People weren't just giving tickets out to people who wouldn't show up.

It would have been censorship if the tickets were specifically ONLY for people who didn't want to go.
User avatar #238 - leonhardt (01/27/2015) [-]
Do you not know how reservations work?
User avatar #241 - anonymoose (01/27/2015) [-]
I do. Do you know that anyone can reserve a ticket.
User avatar #243 - leonhardt (01/27/2015) [-]
And did you know that once all the tickets are reserved, no more people can reserve a ticket?
User avatar #245 - anonymoose (01/27/2015) [-]
Of course, but before that happens you are perfectly able to reserve a ticket.
User avatar #247 - leonhardt (01/27/2015) [-]
And so when a hate mob gets there before you and reserves all the tickets just so they can not go, you're shit out of luck.
User avatar #248 - anonymoose (01/27/2015) [-]
Yes. Just like if you can't get a ticket to any concert. It's your fault for not getting a ticket earlier.
User avatar #251 - leonhardt (01/27/2015) [-]
So basically it's okay to censor people if the people that want to hear what's being censored didn't hear about it as soon as it was announced and immediately bought tickets.

Gr8 defense m80 that'll really protect the gays from evil negative opinions.
User avatar #255 - anonymoose (01/27/2015) [-]
Yes, it is okay. I'm all for suppressing hate mongers from promoting harmful messages.
User avatar #256 - leonhardt (01/27/2015) [-]
Remember, anything that disagrees with you is hate speech! That makes it easy to censor them!
User avatar #258 - anonymoose (01/27/2015) [-]
But that's not what hate speech is, not even close.
User avatar #260 - leonhardt (01/27/2015) [-]
So you agree that someone having a different opinion isn't hate speech.
So why is censoring a different opinion okay?
User avatar #223 - johnnycuntsticks (01/27/2015) [-]
The way that I understood it is that when the event was announced the people that participated in this immediately reserved all of the tickets before anyone had a chance to get them. If this was the case then I think of it as an obstruction of free speech. If this wasn't the case and no one wanted to go then that's great. But that's not how I understood it.
User avatar #210 - mads (01/27/2015) [-]
I get your point I just see that if you don't agree with someone yeah you can't necessarily stop them from saying what they are saying but if what they are saying can lead to someone innocent getting hurt then you take an active role in stopping it. Anti-gay speeches are normally echo tunnels of 'hate' and that hate is repeated in the real world and can cause actions. That preacher is essentially trying to stop an innocent person from being what they are.
If the person isn't doing anything that can hurt anyone and they are just ranting, let them rant but if you get enougn people together who share the same venomous opinion without any form of the apposing opinion it isnt going to end well.
User avatar #214 - johnnycuntsticks (01/27/2015) [-]
Now if there were examples of "fighting words" then it would be a different story. But there was no evidence that fighting words (words that directly incite violence) were present. Fighting words are different than hateful words, hateful words, especially in a private venue that is rented for a speech, is protected as long as they don't incite violence. And what that preacher would be saying is hateful and terrible and trying to stop people from being who they are but in a government that recognizes free speech, he is allowed to say it. I totally get what you are getting at, his stance is horrible and that attitude has touched people in my life. However first and foremost if it doesn't directly incite violence then it should be allowed especially in an event that must be reserved to attend.
#200 - I did include a bit in there stating my ignorance of Icelandic… 01/27/2015 on Iceland 0
#195 - Now hear me out, I am fine with gay people and all that …  [+] (21 new replies) 01/27/2015 on Iceland 0
User avatar #205 - mads (01/27/2015) [-]
But the government didn't get involved. It's only an infringement of freedom of speech if the Government censors someone, citizens can do whatever the hell they want. Isn't it the people freedom to buy those tickets? Isn't it their freedom to take an active stance against what the preacher is saying?
It's all about freedom.
The Anti-gay preacher was probably preaching that a certain type of person shouldn't have the freedom of their sexuality (I'm assuming that's what they were preaching about because 'Anti-gay').
User avatar #206 - johnnycuntsticks (01/27/2015) [-]
It isn't from a legal perspective as much as it is from a moral perspective. What the people did was effectively made it impossible for anyone who may have wanted to attend to do so. Now, do I agree with the preacher? No. But what people that did this did was effectively censor the message this man would have legal delivered which is against the spirit of freedom of speech. In a city as big as Reykjavik there a lot of opinions, and for these people to reserve all the tickets is anti free speech.
TL;DR legal but anti free speech. Also I respect your opinion but this is how I see things.
User avatar #219 - anonymoose (01/27/2015) [-]
The people distributing the tickets didn't only give them to people who didn't want to go. There was no attempt to stop people who wanted to go from going, they still had the opportunity to get a ticket when they were available.
User avatar #234 - leonhardt (01/27/2015) [-]
I guess you missed the part where the arena was fucking empty.
User avatar #237 - anonymoose (01/27/2015) [-]
If I was there and wanted to go, I could have got a ticket, no one was stopping anyone who wanted to go getting a ticket. People weren't just giving tickets out to people who wouldn't show up.

It would have been censorship if the tickets were specifically ONLY for people who didn't want to go.
User avatar #238 - leonhardt (01/27/2015) [-]
Do you not know how reservations work?
User avatar #241 - anonymoose (01/27/2015) [-]
I do. Do you know that anyone can reserve a ticket.
User avatar #243 - leonhardt (01/27/2015) [-]
And did you know that once all the tickets are reserved, no more people can reserve a ticket?
User avatar #245 - anonymoose (01/27/2015) [-]
Of course, but before that happens you are perfectly able to reserve a ticket.
User avatar #247 - leonhardt (01/27/2015) [-]
And so when a hate mob gets there before you and reserves all the tickets just so they can not go, you're shit out of luck.
User avatar #248 - anonymoose (01/27/2015) [-]
Yes. Just like if you can't get a ticket to any concert. It's your fault for not getting a ticket earlier.
User avatar #251 - leonhardt (01/27/2015) [-]
So basically it's okay to censor people if the people that want to hear what's being censored didn't hear about it as soon as it was announced and immediately bought tickets.

Gr8 defense m80 that'll really protect the gays from evil negative opinions.
User avatar #255 - anonymoose (01/27/2015) [-]
Yes, it is okay. I'm all for suppressing hate mongers from promoting harmful messages.
User avatar #256 - leonhardt (01/27/2015) [-]
Remember, anything that disagrees with you is hate speech! That makes it easy to censor them!
User avatar #258 - anonymoose (01/27/2015) [-]
But that's not what hate speech is, not even close.
User avatar #260 - leonhardt (01/27/2015) [-]
So you agree that someone having a different opinion isn't hate speech.
So why is censoring a different opinion okay?
User avatar #223 - johnnycuntsticks (01/27/2015) [-]
The way that I understood it is that when the event was announced the people that participated in this immediately reserved all of the tickets before anyone had a chance to get them. If this was the case then I think of it as an obstruction of free speech. If this wasn't the case and no one wanted to go then that's great. But that's not how I understood it.
User avatar #210 - mads (01/27/2015) [-]
I get your point I just see that if you don't agree with someone yeah you can't necessarily stop them from saying what they are saying but if what they are saying can lead to someone innocent getting hurt then you take an active role in stopping it. Anti-gay speeches are normally echo tunnels of 'hate' and that hate is repeated in the real world and can cause actions. That preacher is essentially trying to stop an innocent person from being what they are.
If the person isn't doing anything that can hurt anyone and they are just ranting, let them rant but if you get enougn people together who share the same venomous opinion without any form of the apposing opinion it isnt going to end well.
User avatar #214 - johnnycuntsticks (01/27/2015) [-]
Now if there were examples of "fighting words" then it would be a different story. But there was no evidence that fighting words (words that directly incite violence) were present. Fighting words are different than hateful words, hateful words, especially in a private venue that is rented for a speech, is protected as long as they don't incite violence. And what that preacher would be saying is hateful and terrible and trying to stop people from being who they are but in a government that recognizes free speech, he is allowed to say it. I totally get what you are getting at, his stance is horrible and that attitude has touched people in my life. However first and foremost if it doesn't directly incite violence then it should be allowed especially in an event that must be reserved to attend.
User avatar #199 - leonhardt (01/27/2015) [-]
Keep in mind this was Iceland, where such freedoms do not exist, apparently.
User avatar #200 - johnnycuntsticks (01/27/2015) [-]
I did include a bit in there stating my ignorance of Icelandic law. Though I would assume, as with most developed nations that it would have some sort of free speech clause.
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