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#70 - People quite obviously don't understand the point of Christian…  [+] (37 new replies) 07/21/2012 on Now I Actually Want To Go... +11
User avatar #101 - potatot (07/21/2012) [-]
I thought Christianity was to help people and put them before you, not to condemn them for being different.
User avatar #109 - joefishsticks (07/21/2012) [-]
Where in my comment did I condemn anyone?
User avatar #72 - noblexfenrir (07/21/2012) [-]
Granted yes, but that doesn't make this post wrong. Considering each of these people committed a sin that directly led to their death. Meaning they couldn't accept Jesus.
User avatar #76 - noblexfenrir (07/21/2012) [-]
Except Freddie Mercury* but he was still committing a sin with knowledge of it being one and still had not accepted Jesus along with the laws that follow.
User avatar #75 - joefishsticks (07/21/2012) [-]
If they had accepted Jesus before they died they wouldn't go to Hell.
That's the Christian belief.
User avatar #80 - noblexfenrir (07/21/2012) [-]
Yes I do know this, but how would they have accepted Jesus if they had followed the christian faith but still committed these acts if they truly accepted jesus?

That's like Hitler saying he's accepted pacifism, and then continuing the holocaust by saying it doesn't count.
User avatar #90 - joefishsticks (07/21/2012) [-]
Accepting Jesus doesn't mean you stop sinning. It means you know you're a sinner and you want Jesus to help you.
User avatar #93 - noblexfenrir (07/21/2012) [-]
So Jesus is cool with serial murders keeping on killing and slaughtering, as long as they believe in him and accepted him as their savior?
User avatar #117 - nucularwar (07/21/2012) [-]
you also have to be repentant. if you just say "hey jesus i'm sorry, will you forgive me?" but don't really mean it, it doesn't count.
User avatar #119 - noblexfenrir (07/21/2012) [-]
But what if that person does mean it.

Basically the idea I'm trying to get across is do people think god judges someone because of their mindset, or because of their actions. Someone can easily sin and sin again, while believing in Jesus and repenting every single time. While someone cannot believe but never sin to such a degree.
User avatar #129 - nucularwar (07/23/2012) [-]
I don't know. I was a christian for 19 years and I have no idea
User avatar #130 - noblexfenrir (07/23/2012) [-]
This idea that I explained basically stemmed from that old question: "Where do atheists get their morality from?" and I've heard multiple people exclaim that since we don't have a divine morality, we don't value life and think anything goes. Specifically a woman asked me "Why aren't you just going around killing people and stealing? Obviously there aren't any repercussions" and that got me thinking...

If all you have to do to get into heaven is accept Jesus, then doesn't that make a theist more inclined to do whatever they please? I'm not saying they do, or they will, just implying that their morality is supposedly objective and the only stipulation is to accept Jesus. Otherwise, they are expected to sin, so why not kill,steal, and do whatever they please?

Just seems like both sides have equally valid (to a degree, to imply someone is predisposed to do bad things simply because of the origin of their morality is ludicrous.) reasoning's as to why the other would commit atrocities.
User avatar #131 - nucularwar (07/23/2012) [-]
according to that logic, only us agnostics have any reason not to do bad stuff. Atheists can because they don't think there are any repercussions, Christians can because they "repent" for it.
If you have no idea if there's a God out there or not, you don't want to risk pissing him off any more than you already do.
User avatar #132 - noblexfenrir (07/23/2012) [-]
There is going to be a partial rant down below simply because I'm a definition nazi, read if you wish but it's more me just venting:

"Agnostic's" are atheists, they are just ones that don't claim absolute knowledge and will change their mind when new evidence is found, but that person is an atheist belief wise, and an agnostic knowledge wise, since the two terms apply to 2 completely different sets of distinction.
Basically this: If you don't fully believe in a god, and know he exists, then you are an atheist because the theists have not proven their claim to you.

Rant over

User avatar #133 - nucularwar (07/24/2012) [-]
agnostics can be atheist, they can be theist, or they can be like me and have no idea.
User avatar #134 - noblexfenrir (07/24/2012) [-]
No you see:

Atheist/Theism are terms based off of belief.

Agnostic/Gnostic are terms of knowledge.

You can be either a: Agnostic Theist/Agnostic Atheist or Gnostic Theist/Gnostic Atheist. Just by the way people use "I'm agnostic" they usually mean Agnostic Atheist because they are saying they don't know if god exists, which means they have not been proven his existence by theists and therefor: They are atheists.

You are either atheist or theist., there isn't a way around that.
User avatar #135 - nucularwar (07/24/2012) [-]
I choose not to choose. You can be one or the other OR both.
User avatar #136 - noblexfenrir (07/24/2012) [-]
No you really can't. It's not a subjective matter, your knowledge is objective and in turn belief as well.
User avatar #137 - noblexfenrir (07/24/2012) [-]
Objective towards whether you know or do not know.*
User avatar #138 - nucularwar (07/24/2012) [-]
I don't believe, nor do i disbelieve. I have no idea which one i am, and I really don't care to decide
User avatar #139 - noblexfenrir (07/24/2012) [-]
"I don't believe"

That makes you an atheist, and yes you do dis-believe because again of "I don't believe". This really isn't that hard. You don't "decide" which one you are, if you believe you are an agnostic/gnostic theist and if you don't believe then you are an agnostic/gnostic atheist.

Seriously, why must people be so dense as to equivocate atheism to something absolute, an agnostic atheist says "I do not believe in god with the evidence presented in front of me, BUT my mind can change when new evidence is presented." I mean fucking christ lol, unless you're theist, then you're atheist. Sorry if you don't like being labeled, but that's how it is.
#141 - nucularwar (07/24/2012) [-]
I'm right at the top middle. I don't think it's possible to know, nor do i care to make an assumption
User avatar #142 - noblexfenrir (07/24/2012) [-]
The graph is under the impression knowledge can act as a belief if you gear it towards that idea. Which it isn't.
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User avatar #94 - joefishsticks (07/21/2012) [-]
All sins are the same in God's eyes. (biblical quote)
Constant murdering is the same as constant stealing and constant adulterating.
User avatar #95 - noblexfenrir (07/21/2012) [-]
Trust me I know the bible, I'm just asking you if you believe that said serial murderer is going to go to heaven then.
User avatar #97 - joefishsticks (07/21/2012) [-]
if that serial killer is a born again Christian, yes.
User avatar #104 - noblexfenrir (07/21/2012) [-]
But what if they just accept Jesus christ, they continue to commit these sins but being humans they can't help it and if they believe in Jesus then they are forgiven no?

What if they full-heartedly believe in Jesus but still murder because they want to?
User avatar #110 - joefishsticks (07/21/2012) [-]
If they truly give their life to Jesus, they are forgiven for all of their sins, even ones they haven't committed yet.
User avatar #113 - noblexfenrir (07/21/2012) [-]
But then has someone truly accepted a savior, if they directly go against the laws that savior has set?
User avatar #125 - joefishsticks (07/21/2012) [-]
The point of accepting Jesus is that God knew we would never stop sinning. So it is expected that we're going to continue sinning.
User avatar #84 - ApocalypseKing (07/21/2012) [-]
so are you basically saying someone cannot get into heaven if they are gay even if they are also christian?
User avatar #85 - noblexfenrir (07/21/2012) [-]
If the supposed holy book opposes it then how could one be a follower of said faith and directly contradict the orders of their holy book?
User avatar #88 - ApocalypseKing (07/21/2012) [-]
Jesus dying for every sin his follower's may, and will, commit....including homosexuality
User avatar #91 - noblexfenrir (07/21/2012) [-]
Again this isn't discussing the idea of whether or not Jesus "sacrifice" is valid or not.

It is implying the idea that is someone truly a believer if they continue to commit the acts upon which the book they base their belief is condemning. But then again the bible can be interpreted any way you want really, so I guess a murderer/rapist/etc etc could accept Jesus full-heatedly without causing a contradiction.

This isn't really an argument just a discussion point since the idea of this is purely subjective.
User avatar #96 - ApocalypseKing (07/21/2012) [-]
i fully believe that someone who is gay doesn't have a choice the matter...that's how they are born.
that being said accepting Jesus into your life doesn't automatically get you into heaven. Its about who you are on the inside. the serial killer and the rapist don't get in because nothing forced them to rape or kill, they did it on their own impulse which makes them bad at heart in the eyes of God. the gay guy, on the other hand, as long as he was right of heart is accepted because again he was born gay and didn't really have a choice.
User avatar #71 - redwolfradolf (07/21/2012) [-]
I was starting to think there were no intelligent people left in the world.
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The songs they chose to record were bad.
It's all the sunshine pop type songs from the 80s
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