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#73 - I think it would be more accurate to say you are. Maybe it's b…  [+] (2 new replies) 01/15/2015 on Uhh.. Great point. 0
User avatar #86 - miketheemo (01/16/2015) [-]
its about supply and demand, if we can literally grow organs then the price for one wouldn't cost nearly as much as a freshly squeezed one.
User avatar #87 - miketheemo (01/16/2015) [-]
ergo it would be relatively less expensive for an organ.
#65 - Where has this testing been done? Who would set the default pr…  [+] (5 new replies) 01/15/2015 on Uhh.. Great point. 0
User avatar #66 - Sewallman (01/15/2015) [-]
Warning, they're Canadians,

www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/kidney-10-000-paying-donors-actually-pays-new-study-finds-f8C11459939

Not everything is like the book "Scorpion King"
User avatar #67 - Sewallman (01/15/2015) [-]
Eh, shoulda read it all the way before saying it was tested. it was studied instead of tested but it shows promising results for a country with free health care.
#68 - kanedam (01/15/2015) [-]
i wouldnt trust that. its not like the peopel working in the hospital couldnt get bribed anyway.
also... damn. it just sounds like a really nasty business.
User avatar #69 - Sewallman (01/15/2015) [-]
In Iran the government pays the person around $1200 USD, and that completely demolished the waiting list. If 0.06% of every American donated a kidney, we'd have no waiting list.

Australia just legalized the sale of organs as well.
#70 - kanedam (01/15/2015) [-]
Ms Plibersek says living donors will be paid six weeks on minimum wage, totalling up to $3600, to help take the financial pressure off before and after the major surgery.
thats not the same as legalizing the sale of organs
The proposed experiment does, however, contains a peculiar restriction which is worth highlighting because it illustrates a tension between economics and ethics, at least ethics as conventionally understood (e,g, Michael Sandel). The compensation “will only be available to donors who have a job.”
#61 - Let's say someone is dying, in hospital. Someone agrees to sel…  [+] (8 new replies) 01/14/2015 on Uhh.. Great point. 0
User avatar #62 - Sewallman (01/14/2015) [-]
When the hospital pays the individuals (which has been tested) the system works better and there are more organs to go around.
#65 - jboienggh (01/15/2015) [-]
Where has this testing been done? Who would set the default price of an organ? What if rejection occurred despite the hospitals best efforts? Can we justify paying large amounts of money for organs with no guarantee? The best organs are still those donated by family members for a number of reasons.
User avatar #66 - Sewallman (01/15/2015) [-]
Warning, they're Canadians,

www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/kidney-10-000-paying-donors-actually-pays-new-study-finds-f8C11459939

Not everything is like the book "Scorpion King"
User avatar #67 - Sewallman (01/15/2015) [-]
Eh, shoulda read it all the way before saying it was tested. it was studied instead of tested but it shows promising results for a country with free health care.
#68 - kanedam (01/15/2015) [-]
i wouldnt trust that. its not like the peopel working in the hospital couldnt get bribed anyway.
also... damn. it just sounds like a really nasty business.
User avatar #69 - Sewallman (01/15/2015) [-]
In Iran the government pays the person around $1200 USD, and that completely demolished the waiting list. If 0.06% of every American donated a kidney, we'd have no waiting list.

Australia just legalized the sale of organs as well.
#70 - kanedam (01/15/2015) [-]
Ms Plibersek says living donors will be paid six weeks on minimum wage, totalling up to $3600, to help take the financial pressure off before and after the major surgery.
thats not the same as legalizing the sale of organs
The proposed experiment does, however, contains a peculiar restriction which is worth highlighting because it illustrates a tension between economics and ethics, at least ethics as conventionally understood (e,g, Michael Sandel). The compensation “will only be available to donors who have a job.”
User avatar #63 - Sewallman (01/14/2015) [-]
legalize the sale of organs to hospitals, not people.

But only organ sales from living donors.. No shady shit.
#59 - Why don't you go ahead and give it a shot? Try selling a kidne…  [+] (4 new replies) 01/14/2015 on Uhh.. Great point. 0
User avatar #72 - miketheemo (01/15/2015) [-]
for so many obvious reasons no one should buy a kidney off ebay, you are missing the point completely.
#73 - jboienggh (01/15/2015) [-]
I think it would be more accurate to say you are. Maybe it's because the healthcare system is different wherever you are but pricing services inevitably means that the rich will always have the upper hand. Should the fact that you can pay for an organ and someone else can't mean that you get it?
User avatar #86 - miketheemo (01/16/2015) [-]
its about supply and demand, if we can literally grow organs then the price for one wouldn't cost nearly as much as a freshly squeezed one.
User avatar #87 - miketheemo (01/16/2015) [-]
ergo it would be relatively less expensive for an organ.
#55 - That's how it works in Wales. Organ donation is an 'Opt out' p… 01/14/2015 on Uhh.. Great point. 0
#54 - We actually had this very discussion in a medical school forum…  [+] (16 new replies) 01/14/2015 on Uhh.. Great point. +2
User avatar #60 - Sewallman (01/14/2015) [-]
Monitored in a hospital setting, i think it'd do fine.
#61 - jboienggh (01/14/2015) [-]
Let's say someone is dying, in hospital. Someone agrees to sell them a kidney for £15,000 and they accept the offer. Then someone is wheeled in and says they'll pay £30,000. What then? Do they start a bidding war in the middle of a hospital?
User avatar #62 - Sewallman (01/14/2015) [-]
When the hospital pays the individuals (which has been tested) the system works better and there are more organs to go around.
#65 - jboienggh (01/15/2015) [-]
Where has this testing been done? Who would set the default price of an organ? What if rejection occurred despite the hospitals best efforts? Can we justify paying large amounts of money for organs with no guarantee? The best organs are still those donated by family members for a number of reasons.
User avatar #66 - Sewallman (01/15/2015) [-]
Warning, they're Canadians,

www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/kidney-10-000-paying-donors-actually-pays-new-study-finds-f8C11459939

Not everything is like the book "Scorpion King"
User avatar #67 - Sewallman (01/15/2015) [-]
Eh, shoulda read it all the way before saying it was tested. it was studied instead of tested but it shows promising results for a country with free health care.
#68 - kanedam (01/15/2015) [-]
i wouldnt trust that. its not like the peopel working in the hospital couldnt get bribed anyway.
also... damn. it just sounds like a really nasty business.
User avatar #69 - Sewallman (01/15/2015) [-]
In Iran the government pays the person around $1200 USD, and that completely demolished the waiting list. If 0.06% of every American donated a kidney, we'd have no waiting list.

Australia just legalized the sale of organs as well.
#70 - kanedam (01/15/2015) [-]
Ms Plibersek says living donors will be paid six weeks on minimum wage, totalling up to $3600, to help take the financial pressure off before and after the major surgery.
thats not the same as legalizing the sale of organs
The proposed experiment does, however, contains a peculiar restriction which is worth highlighting because it illustrates a tension between economics and ethics, at least ethics as conventionally understood (e,g, Michael Sandel). The compensation “will only be available to donors who have a job.”
User avatar #63 - Sewallman (01/14/2015) [-]
legalize the sale of organs to hospitals, not people.

But only organ sales from living donors.. No shady shit.
User avatar #57 - miketheemo (01/14/2015) [-]
until we start growing organs, then ehhhhhhhhh yes
#59 - jboienggh (01/14/2015) [-]
Why don't you go ahead and give it a shot? Try selling a kidney on eBay. I guarantee you it will not work out.
User avatar #72 - miketheemo (01/15/2015) [-]
for so many obvious reasons no one should buy a kidney off ebay, you are missing the point completely.
#73 - jboienggh (01/15/2015) [-]
I think it would be more accurate to say you are. Maybe it's because the healthcare system is different wherever you are but pricing services inevitably means that the rich will always have the upper hand. Should the fact that you can pay for an organ and someone else can't mean that you get it?
User avatar #86 - miketheemo (01/16/2015) [-]
its about supply and demand, if we can literally grow organs then the price for one wouldn't cost nearly as much as a freshly squeezed one.
User avatar #87 - miketheemo (01/16/2015) [-]
ergo it would be relatively less expensive for an organ.
#1207 - I probably will. Haven't had a full-on afro in ages.  [+] (1 new reply) 11/27/2014 on thanksgiving selfie / feels... +1
User avatar #1839 - Draserszes (11/28/2014) [-]
You're gonna look so funky.
#625 - You caught me with my hair in an in-between stage. I'm als…  [+] (3 new replies) 11/27/2014 on thanksgiving selfie / feels... +1
User avatar #659 - Draserszes (11/27/2014) [-]
Your hair doesn't look bad enough to be in an in-between stage.

Grow it out.
#1207 - jboienggh (11/27/2014) [-]
I probably will. Haven't had a full-on afro in ages.
User avatar #1839 - Draserszes (11/28/2014) [-]
You're gonna look so funky.
#43 - You don't know how much you just blew my ******* mind. 11/20/2014 on One or the other +1
#47 - What is wrong with you people? A young man died at the hands o… 11/19/2014 on enlarge +1
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