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#155 - Vandeekree (05/01/2014) [-]
But logically anything doesn't include things that are logically impossible. By that I mean that you can't do something you will never do. If you never, in your life, go sky diving then, while it is possible for you to have done it, you didn't, therefore it's not possible. I'd go so far as to say that definition is severely lacking. Omnipotence should be the ability to do anything short of contradicting your own actions.
#466 - Vandeekree (05/01/2014) [-]
The bible itself lists some things God can't do. For example Hebrews 6:18 where is says God is incapable of lying. He also cannot change as stated in Malachi 3:6.
God himself, in his book, claims to have things he cannot do and so he has limits, but not failures. So my point stands.
God can do anything he wants.
But there are some things he simply can't do that don't break the above statement.
#468 - Vandeekree (05/01/2014) [-]
And that's why I say omnipotence doesn't mean you can do anything at all. It means you can do anything that you want to do. But you can't contradict yourself in your actions. God can't, for example, tell a lie and then say he never lies without lying. It's not a matter of his actions at all. It has to do with the flaws of our language allowing for irrationalities for the sake of efficiency. But just because we can create these scenarios that are seemingly impossible doesn't mean that an omnipotent being could still do the impossible. So it's not an exception. He can do anything, but he can't do things that aren't things.
#469 - nigeltheoutlaw (05/01/2014) [-]
Well, you can say that, but it doesn't change the definition of the word or the definition that was used in the Bible. You can write it off as the limitations of language, but God is supposed to be able to do the impossible, hence the "all powerful" portion of its existence.
#474 - Vandeekree (05/01/2014) [-]
I don't think that's quite true. God can clearly do what is impossible for man. But surely he can't do what is impossible for God.
I think a good example of the biblical definition of omnipotence can be seen in Luke 18:27 which says "Jesus replied, “What is impossible with man is possible with God.”
It doesn't mean God can do things that are truly impossible. But he can do things that are impossible for man. Meaning that if it's possible, he can do it. But things that are impossible, such as for God to create another God of equal power(meaning two infinitely powerful being but infinity + infinity = infinity) might very well be something he can't do.
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