I will always consider EVE's biggest weakness to be its gameplay. Many people have bought into the ideas and stories about EVE, myself included, but when they get into playing it they just get bored out of their minds.

I think the issue with EVE is the same issue that multiplayer survival games like Ark, DayZ, rust, etc have. Which is you spend hours and hours of time for a few minutes of fun.

I agree with your point about Elite in that its big and lack any really content. I mean jesus, they just had a $60 DLC come out that all it is is you driving around on a moon-like planets shooting drones and shit. Nothing really there. But I disagree with your statement about Star Citizen. The game literally just had a big public test universe. Is star citizen far off? yeah, but vaporware? a year ago sure, now not really. It wont have the scope/engineering EVE has, but then again EVE has had over a decade to get it right. I would love to see star citizen turn into EVE 2.0.

I think EVE does suffer from the old design flaw, where the game was designed to be played well 10 years ago, and now due to the internet speeds getting better and better its extremely slow combat doesnt need to exist anymore.

I mean if you think about it, EVE was the only space ferrying MMO of its kind, for well over a decade too. Then comes Star Citizen and Eliteangerous are now filling that niche with alot of features that EVE lacks, or completely dropped the ball on. Add to the fact that the game plays like a chess with spreadsheets just means the game is bound to die as well.

I wouldnt say the dying MMORPG genre to be a contributor to EVE's decline.

Elite: Dangerous has a big universe but a severe lack of content. Star Citizen is just vaporware atm. Neither of them can even compare to EVE because they are completely different games. The former are spaceship combat sims while EVE is a market/social engineering game at it's core.

And frankly, no other game can boast the crazy scams, ponzi schemes and espionage stories that EVE has. I dare say it's a piece of cult gaming history, and one that neither E or SC will manage to compete with.

I will always consider EVE's biggest weakness to be its gameplay. Many people have bought into the ideas and stories about EVE, myself included, but when they get into playing it they just get bored out of their minds.

I think the issue with EVE is the same issue that multiplayer survival games like Ark, DayZ, rust, etc have. Which is you spend hours and hours of time for a few minutes of fun.

I agree with your point about Elite in that its big and lack any really content. I mean jesus, they just had a $60 DLC come out that all it is is you driving around on a moon-like planets shooting drones and shit. Nothing really there. But I disagree with your statement about Star Citizen. The game literally just had a big public test universe. Is star citizen far off? yeah, but vaporware? a year ago sure, now not really. It wont have the scope/engineering EVE has, but then again EVE has had over a decade to get it right. I would love to see star citizen turn into EVE 2.0.

I think EVE does suffer from the old design flaw, where the game was designed to be played well 10 years ago, and now due to the internet speeds getting better and better its extremely slow combat doesnt need to exist anymore.

Well yeah but we don't actually see any struggle or anything, he just completely switches sides in the span of 5 minutes, that's not something that happens to someone who has been brainwashed. It would have been far more convincing if they spent a little more time on it showing him actually dealing with it but trying to hide it from the others (more than two scenes where he doesn't shoot and then takes off his helmet).