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#3 - Can't wait to see the pro league then. 11/04/2013 on What an amateur +4
#15 - Vegetable oils can denature and leave semi-conductive deposits… 11/04/2013 on different way to fries potato +1
#71 - It says genitals magically replaced, not gender swap. So it re…  [+] (22 new replies) 11/04/2013 on i think ill live 0
User avatar #90 - cjwers (11/04/2013) [-]
It also says opposite. I con't think of a situation when the opposite of an opposite is not the same as the original.
#92 - jackassalope (11/04/2013) [-]
If it said you received a name of the opposite sex, you couldn't push it twice to have a male name. Similar issues appear here, though it is much more murky.
User avatar #93 - cjwers (11/04/2013) [-]
So what I'm hearing is I could end up with horse balls or elephant balls ext., but male balls none the less. I'd take the chance anyway.
#95 - jackassalope (11/04/2013) [-]
No, the issue is that sex isn't really defined by your genitals. It can be defined by any number of things, the most functional being your role in reproduction. If you have a womb and a penis, you are still a female.
User avatar #103 - drldrl (11/04/2013) [-]
Sex is defined by genitals. You're thinking about gender.
#105 - jackassalope (11/04/2013) [-]
Sex is defined by role in reproduction. If you can carry a child and yet outwardly have a penis, that doesn't make you male.
User avatar #106 - drldrl (11/04/2013) [-]
That would make you a hermaphrodite. There's 3 sexes, male, female, and hermaphrodite. Male and female would be opposites, so cjwers would be correct.
#110 - jackassalope (11/04/2013) [-]
Actually, I misspoke, hermaphrodite is a true sex of sorts, but only in cases where the animal can perform both as a female and a male.

The way you used it here was a layman's version that works as I described before.
User avatar #111 - drldrl (11/04/2013) [-]
Being a hermaphrodite means nothing other than having both ovarian and testicular cells.
We're only talking about humans here, stop mentioning other things.
#109 - jackassalope (11/04/2013) [-]
Hermaphrodite is more used to describe something that is outside of norm, its not really a sex. There are mammals where the females appear to have penises, but are not called hermaphrodites because it is normal. Female hyenas come to mind. In the end you are male if your sexual reproductive cells are small and good at moving around, and female if the sex cells are eggs of some sort.

I didn't really plan on getting on these huge debates of semantics, and I don't claim to have any expertise on the machinations of magical buttons, my only point was that the issue is not as cut and dry as it first appears. With the right interpretation, the button would flip flop, and with another it would not.
#108 - cjwers (11/04/2013) [-]
Thanks for the mention
User avatar #80 - tonkkax (11/04/2013) [-]
Gender is defined by the genitals.
#81 - jackassalope (11/04/2013) [-]
Gender can be defined by genetics, which wouldn't have changed. Gender can be defined by self-identity, which wouldn't have changed. Gender can even be defined by your role in society in rare cases. But yes, gender can also be defined by your role in reproduction, assuming the magical ones actually work.
User avatar #82 - tonkkax (11/04/2013) [-]
The gender is defined scientifically by the genitals, to have sex and make a kid you need a man and a woman, no wishful thinking or genetics will make you a woman or a man if you have the others genitalia.
#86 - jackassalope (11/04/2013) [-]
p.s. throwing around the word "scientifically" is a bit silly when the various sciences don't agree on a singular definition. You are talking biology, but there is also a definition via genetics, psychology, and sociology. None of which is less valid than the others.
User avatar #88 - tonkkax (11/04/2013) [-]
Well alright then, lets say biologically.
#83 - jackassalope (11/04/2013) [-]
"Gender is the range of physical, biological, mental and behavioral characteristics pertaining to, and differentiating between, masculinity and femininity"
User avatar #87 - tonkkax (11/04/2013) [-]
In scientific terms it doesn't matter how feminine or masculine you are, if you have the genitals of a certain sex, you are that sex. Of course it is polite to refer to someone by the gender they see themselves or act as, but the bottom line is that if you have a penis you're a man and if you have a vagina you're a woman.
#91 - jackassalope (11/04/2013) [-]
Biologically, your gender is determined by your role in reproduction, not your genitals. There are certain species in the animal kingdom where the females appear to have a penis, but are still considered female for obvious reasons. Biologically, a woman who gets a gender swap operation is still sexually a female, despite having the genitals of a man, because she still has the internal organs to create a baby.

If you are a woman and pushed the button, you would receive a penis, but biologically you would still be a woman. Push it again and your penis would be replaced with the genitals of the opposite sex....a penis.
User avatar #154 - tonkkax (11/04/2013) [-]
People who go through sex change operations are technically badly mutilated to look female. They may get some estrogen pumped into them, but that doesn't mean squat if you can't produce it yourself.

And just because female genitalia of a certain species looks like a penis doesn't mean that it is one. Its just the female genitals of that species. The males have something different. Of course the role in reproduction is a factor in determining the gender of an individual.

If you pushed the button and got a "real" penis capable of doing what all other penises can, your body would change dramatically and your womb would disappear. If the penis you would receive would just be a flaccid piece of flesh hanging from your crotch, your logic would apply, but if it is like i see it, AKA your role in intercourse becomes the seeder and not the seed receiver, you would change back to normal after pressing the button again.

To be honest i don't even remember what we're debating about anymore, but to celebrate the occasion I'll throw some thumbs around.
#232 - jackassalope (11/04/2013) [-]
THUMBS FOR EVERYONE. No seriously, debating something as nonsensical as this without resorting to flaming deserves some thumbs.
User avatar #234 - tonkkax (11/05/2013) [-]
After this we'll never see each other again. Bye.
#41 - Shots like this are more about the lens. Most lenses have a mi… 11/04/2013 on Eye drop 0
#20 - I'm going to assume it says cut and paste. Arg, reposts, blah,… 11/01/2013 on How to get frontpage you ask? 0
#439 - whats wrong with argentina? age of consent is like 14, there a… 11/01/2013 on Roll game. +1
#14 - Personally, I found the funniest part to be when he asked Ben … 11/01/2013 on (untitled) +5
#30 - This defense gives you hope though, doesn't it? That maybe the… 10/30/2013 on Evolution and Bible +1
#13 - He took 195M and divided it by 22.4 instead of 22.4M; I assume… 10/29/2013 on "That's basic math" 0
#7 - Its because the water just activates an internal battery. It a… 10/29/2013 on 65 wat 0
#43 - And playing a trumpet with your ass will be more impressive th… 10/29/2013 on more impressive +1
#50 - lol, we all have our moments. 10/29/2013 on Good Guy Akira Toriyama +1
#48 - ...thats the point, yes.  [+] (2 new replies) 10/29/2013 on Good Guy Akira Toriyama +2
#49 - FatherPedobear (10/29/2013) [-]
Oh. I thought you meant he did this to both adaptions. I don't know. I feel ridonkulous. Sorry.
#50 - jackassalope (10/29/2013) [-]
lol, we all have our moments.
#46 - Anything that was 'created' was created in the manga and then …  [+] (4 new replies) 10/29/2013 on Good Guy Akira Toriyama +1
#47 - FatherPedobear (10/29/2013) [-]
Yes, but the manga was in black and white I assume, thus blonde would just be white. Rather than yellow in the anime.
#48 - jackassalope (10/29/2013) [-]
...thats the point, yes.
#49 - FatherPedobear (10/29/2013) [-]
Oh. I thought you meant he did this to both adaptions. I don't know. I feel ridonkulous. Sorry.
#50 - jackassalope (10/29/2013) [-]
lol, we all have our moments.
#111 - He's not just a drunk, hes a drunken asshole. Not even kind've… 10/28/2013 on anon in germany +1
#25 - Americans tend to over-tip everyone while they travel because …  [+] (2 new replies) 10/28/2013 on anon in germany +9
User avatar #110 - milthyfoustache (10/28/2013) [-]
When Brits travel abroad we get hammered everywhere we go and never tip and get away with it so tell your dad not to bother next time
#111 - jackassalope (10/28/2013) [-]
He's not just a drunk, hes a drunken asshole. Not even kind've. He's even proud of the fact that he is an asshole.
#28 - the best birth control methods at the moment can have as high … 10/27/2013 on Abstinence +1
#34 - You can only prove something false if there is a testable outc… 10/24/2013 on my belief 0
#4 - That is actually a beautiful play. There's no way to get that …  [+] (2 new replies) 10/24/2013 on you lucky bastard 0
User avatar #5 - walkerjam (10/24/2013) [-]
I agree about the technical beauty, but my guess is that he was planning to do it and was just waiting for the goalie to dive so he could do that thing.
Omark is that kind of player, he has some sick penatly shot goals, and whatnot. And this was in an international training game, so if he would have missed it wouldn't really have mattered.
User avatar #12 - ompalomper (10/24/2013) [-]
in both cases, ärorika svenska härskarrasen
#42 - The horizontal lies would still pass over every single bit of … 10/24/2013 on For When Your Drunk Perhaps +1
#40 - doesn't have the be a perfect grid to show you that the lines …  [+] (1 new reply) 10/24/2013 on For When Your Drunk Perhaps +1
User avatar #56 - psykobear (10/25/2013) [-]
But, since the grid would become a trapazoid, holes in the road would look either less deep or more deep/ It would mess with your sight.
#11 - Even a lesser EULA is still an EULA that you are agreeing to b…  [+] (1 new reply) 10/23/2013 on I accept nothing!! 0
User avatar #12 - eddymolly (10/23/2013) [-]
Only if its able to be read before you can break the seal. And lets face it, the majority of EULAs are digital now a days, so unless this did come with a paper agreement, its not legal (and to be honest, i'd guess it didn't, generally if they give you the disk in a paper sleeve, they probably won't print one. Well, most of the paper case disks I have didn't)
#7 - Many EULAs are somewhere in the leaflets in the box with the C…  [+] (3 new replies) 10/23/2013 on I accept nothing!! 0
User avatar #8 - eddymolly (10/23/2013) [-]
Most don't have the full agreements, just a kind of mini one. The majority of full agreements are multiple pages that include everything. The ones in leaflets are normally just stuff like "don't copy this, if you fuck it up, its your fault, and by opening this, you agree to read the full agreement and if you don't, can't use the product"
#11 - jackassalope (10/23/2013) [-]
Even a lesser EULA is still an EULA that you are agreeing to by opening that seal, no?
User avatar #12 - eddymolly (10/23/2013) [-]
Only if its able to be read before you can break the seal. And lets face it, the majority of EULAs are digital now a days, so unless this did come with a paper agreement, its not legal (and to be honest, i'd guess it didn't, generally if they give you the disk in a paper sleeve, they probably won't print one. Well, most of the paper case disks I have didn't)
#5 - EULA's are everywhere. If anything this one is more legal than…  [+] (21 new replies) 10/23/2013 on I accept nothing!! +1
#34 - nexdemise (10/24/2013) [-]
Unless you sign it it is not legally binding and/or enforceable. They can't in any way shape or form prove that you did accept it. In fact they can't do anything if you claim you modified the installer in question to not show the EULA.
User avatar #6 - eddymolly (10/23/2013) [-]
Legally, you can't agree to any form of contract without being shown the contract (or hearing it if its spoken etc) so if the agreement is on the disk, legally its completely irrelevant what that sticker says as you haven't read the agreement so legally can't accept it.
#9 - shareacokewith (10/23/2013) [-]
Of course you can, hence spoken contracts. A prime example of this is the displaying of things such as "this company accepts no damage for any theft or damage to your car or personal property while parking in our facilities"

You don't sign anything, and you are only given a warning, but so long as this is clearly post marked before you enter the premises and pay for your parking, you have legally accepted a contract where they are no longer at fault for any damage or theft to you.
User avatar #10 - eddymolly (10/23/2013) [-]
You clearly didn't pay that much attention to my comment, or see the bit where I said "or hearing it if its spoken etc".

I never said you had to sign or anything, just see the contract or hear it, or a more general term I suppose would be made aware of it. If there was a sign in a car park saying "this company accepts no damage for any theft or damage to your car or personal property while parking in our facilities", thats them showing a contract, so by parking there you are agreeing to the contract they are showing you.

If they didn't have a sign, you got your car stolen and they said "ahh, well its our policy that you park here at your own risk" it would be irrelevant, as you hadn't been informed of the contract you were entering, so they would still be liable for damages etc, because you hadn't been informed of the contract you were entering, so wouldn't have entered one.
#13 - shareacokewith (10/23/2013) [-]
That's exactly what I just said mate, in retrospect, I should have paid more attention to your comment, and I thought I saw something's wrong with it, but there's no need to regurgitate exactly what I just said.

User avatar #15 - eddymolly (10/23/2013) [-]
Perhaps I misinterpreted what you said.

To me, it seems I said "you can't agree to any form of contract without being shown the contract", to which you replied "Of course you can", then said "A prime example of this is the displaying of things such as "this company accepts no damage" etc, which to me read as "an example of when you can agree to a contract without reading it is..."

Maybe thats not what you meant, if it isn't, my apologies, its pretty late, i'm playing minecraft on my other screen and I feel a bit like shit, so i'm not paying the most attention atm
#16 - shareacokewith (10/23/2013) [-]
No that's exactly what I said, and that's exactly what you said, I also said in my second comment that I should have paid more attention to your comment, which I misread.

Sorry for the confusion, I think me and you are both on exactly the same page on where contract law stands. Feel better mate.
#17 - eddymolly (10/23/2013) [-]
Yeah, I think we both just misunderstood each other over and over again. Ah well, shit happens. Sorry about that. And its just a cold, i'll beat it by tomorrow, thanks.

Glad we sorted it out, have a gif
User avatar #33 - Kelevra (10/24/2013) [-]
Hey guys. A little bit of information to share with you on the acceptance of terms before the viewing of them. Terms when it comes to digital media fall into three categories. Shrink wrap, Click Wrap, and Browse Wrap. Shrink wrap refers to accepting terms of software as soon as you remove the wrapping off of the package. Click wrap refers to, "clicking here, you accept the terms..." and browse wrap usually refers to accepting terms on a website due to use.

What we have here is shrink wrap acceptance. If they say, "removing the seal constitutes acceptance" then some part of the Agreement is on the outside of the box. For the case that epitomizes this, look up ProCD v. Zeidenberg. The courts have dictated that even though some terms are not on the outside of the box, opening them still concludes agreement. Usually, the agreement comes from the use of the software. This is the majority opinion of the courts. There is no distinct "yes or no" if this is acceptable. Those three types of agreements are usually debated as to their legitimacy.

TL;DR This can be considered as acceptance of the agreement if you use the software at the very least. There is a jurisdictional split with the majority saying it's okay.

References..Law Student
User avatar #39 - mitchr (10/24/2013) [-]
So... they could put inside "We also get to enslave your family to create abominations of technology," and on the outside put some other bit of the Terms and Agreements, and it'd be okay?
I slowly become more and more paranoid.
User avatar #86 - Kelevra (10/24/2013) [-]
Haha not so much. Believe it or not, there is a limit as to what you can contract someone to do. If I say, "I pay you $5,000 dollars to kill my wife", technically speaking, the contract fits all that is needed to create a valid one. However, the court can invalidate a contract due to public policy. It also has a statute in every state making murder illegal so that helps as well as with the slavery aspect. But I like your thinking. Generally, if the contract requires you to do something that the court has deemed against public policy, or breaks a law, then the contract is unenforceable.
User avatar #87 - mitchr (10/24/2013) [-]
That specific example was hyperbole; it can be replaced with just about anything you really wouldn't want.
For example, EA Origin's policy of "We can see every single file on your computer."
User avatar #88 - Kelevra (10/24/2013) [-]
That's where the argument comes in. Even though it hasn't been deemed by the courts as wrong, so has everything else before it's been tried. I plan to actually go into the digital license types of law so we'll see how that pans out. The courts start could to trend that would limit the scope of software and its ability to "know your computer". It seems it would be fair to impose a limit on the scope of software to do what is deemed as necessary for it's function. I don't think knowing all of the files on your computer is. I'd have to read it.
User avatar #89 - mitchr (10/24/2013) [-]
I have it bookmarked.
www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/08/24/eas-origin-eula-proves-even-more-sinister/
I deleted Origin after reading this; I had it only for Sims, wasn't worth it.
User avatar #90 - Kelevra (10/24/2013) [-]
That's fucked up. The potential there seems unlimited and that's the argument that should be made. They very well may be acting in good faith and using the software in a very limited fashion, such as crash rates or frequency of game use. But the wording does provide a huge potential for a market user profile. This would be tough to argue against it without proof that they are doing something you could argue is against public policy. BUT I wouldn't say not to make the argument. The courts often times come up with their own reasoning that something is against public policy that isn't the ideas of the lawyers. Who knows...it's a crap shoot at this point. At most would would happen is this clause would become void and they EA would have to make a new one limited the scope of the type of data collected and the use of it. Keep an eye out in the news about other software. From there you can probably see where the trend is going. If you want to know more, feel free to ask.
User avatar #91 - mitchr (10/24/2013) [-]
I will, thanks.
And yeah, I don't trust EA with that. I have heard, but not yet confirmed, that Google has the same policy, but seeing as Google is a more trustworthy in my opinion, of course company than EA, I'll trust them with the ability.
#19 - shareacokewith (10/23/2013) [-]
Oh sweet heavens above do I love foxes, thank you. Now I really must go to bed, as I have an ethics exam in the morning, all the best.
#7 - jackassalope (10/23/2013) [-]
Many EULAs are somewhere in the leaflets in the box with the CDs, and unless you know more than I do, there's no way of telling if this was the case or not.
User avatar #8 - eddymolly (10/23/2013) [-]
Most don't have the full agreements, just a kind of mini one. The majority of full agreements are multiple pages that include everything. The ones in leaflets are normally just stuff like "don't copy this, if you fuck it up, its your fault, and by opening this, you agree to read the full agreement and if you don't, can't use the product"
#11 - jackassalope (10/23/2013) [-]
Even a lesser EULA is still an EULA that you are agreeing to by opening that seal, no?
User avatar #12 - eddymolly (10/23/2013) [-]
Only if its able to be read before you can break the seal. And lets face it, the majority of EULAs are digital now a days, so unless this did come with a paper agreement, its not legal (and to be honest, i'd guess it didn't, generally if they give you the disk in a paper sleeve, they probably won't print one. Well, most of the paper case disks I have didn't)
#11 - I see no cat, so it must be safe this time around. 10/23/2013 on Ash, you stupid fucktard... +2
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