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#1127 - soarinbolty **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
The place I ordered my player and amp from is on a strike and apparently they don't WANT to send them.

A valid reason to harass the consumer advocates...
User avatar #1152 to #1127 - iyr ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
this Pioneer I have here can play Flac from a disc so I could make some pretty decent cds myself.

Could you elaborate on that a little more?
#1153 to #1152 - soarinbolty **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
A cd player that supports FLAC

You don't see those too often.
#1154 to #1153 - iyr ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
>only have experience building media PCs
>did not know flac-compatibility was an issue
#1155 to #1154 - soarinbolty **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
Well you're damn lucky if you can find a cd player that'll play anything else that wav/waw
Well you're damn lucky if you can find a cd player that'll play anything else that wav/waw
#1156 to #1155 - iyr ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
It would only be able to support one disk at most, but you could build a pretty swaggy media pc with this case; include a nice soundcard, run Element OS with it and never have to worry about incompatible formats.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811204039&name=HTPC-Media- Center-Cases
#1157 to #1156 - soarinbolty **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
Too bad it looks fucking horrible
#1158 to #1157 - iyr ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
#1159 to #1158 - soarinbolty **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
I'd like something more conventional.

http://www.antec.com/productPSU.php?id=704873&pid=5

Would look good in a rack you know, is your wood shacklet even in standard size?
#1160 to #1159 - iyr ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
that "wooden shacklet" easily has the capability of being an end-all / be-all media streaming server htpc cloud storage device. "Standard size" won't matter if it could literally be the only device that does device that does everything short playing vinyls.   
   
That antec case is drastically limited by its 2x 3.5" internal bays. Plus, I've never really been impressed with antec's build-quality.   
So much so, I'd rather have a case made of wood than the flimsy design of an antec chassis.   
   
If you want a more "conventional" htpc case, silverstone makes plenty really good modern-looking chassis perfect for the job that are built to a high degree of quality.   
The won't collapse like an accordion the instant you stack a bunch of other components on top.
that "wooden shacklet" easily has the capability of being an end-all / be-all media streaming server htpc cloud storage device. "Standard size" won't matter if it could literally be the only device that does device that does everything short playing vinyls.

That antec case is drastically limited by its 2x 3.5" internal bays. Plus, I've never really been impressed with antec's build-quality.
So much so, I'd rather have a case made of wood than the flimsy design of an antec chassis.

If you want a more "conventional" htpc case, silverstone makes plenty really good modern-looking chassis perfect for the job that are built to a high degree of quality.
The won't collapse like an accordion the instant you stack a bunch of other components on top.
User avatar #1161 to #1160 - soarinbolty **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
You can't seriously say that a HTPC would ever replace a cd player, blue ray player maybe, but you'd still need an amplifier if you want to connect something else than active speakers or monitors, the latter being highly unlikely.
User avatar #1162 to #1161 - iyr ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
That's what a good soundcard and/or external dac is for.
Higher-end dacs/soundcards will have really stable magnetically shielded amps integrated into them specifically for driving both active and non-active speakers or high-impedance headphones.
My brother runs 2 KRK RP-8s and a single KRK 10S off an external dac.

The additional advantage is that building a media PC can allow you achieve superior sound quality versus even "good" CD players. A lot of "good" CD players I see on the web only spit out about 100Db SNR; you can buy dacs or soundcards that can push all the way up to 120Db+SNR.
That doesn't sound like a huge difference, but SNR uses a logarithmic scale; a dac with a 120SNR will have many many times greater sound quality than one with 100SNR.

As much as I adore media PCs, they're far from perfect. They won't be as stable as a dedicated CD player since you have to manage the OS manually.
Another issue is the a media pc can only play as many CDs as how many drives you can install.
You can find CD players capable of housing hundreds of CDs, but you can only build an htpc capable of housing a handful at the most.
User avatar #1128 to #1127 - iyr ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
do they already have your money?
User avatar #1129 to #1128 - soarinbolty **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
Nope, if they could be arsed they'd send a bill with the merchandise.

Got a pioneer from work for testing, not as great but I'll call them today and if I end up breaking the deal I'll take the pioneer and get a dj style preamp from a music store.
User avatar #1130 to #1129 - iyr ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
Pardon my ignorance, but what do you mean by "dj-style?"
User avatar #1131 to #1130 - soarinbolty **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
More like "dj grade", it's a bit same of a deal than in headphones, they have more features and are ugly as fuck.

Not "hi-fi"
#1132 to #1131 - iyr ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
I'm not sure I understood that sentence. . .
#1133 to #1132 - soarinbolty **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
English is not my native language.   
   
DJ käyttöön tarkoitetut etuasteet ovat monikäyttöisempiä mutta hieman kirveellä veisetyn näköisiä.
English is not my native language.

DJ käyttöön tarkoitetut etuasteet ovat monikäyttöisempiä mutta hieman kirveellä veisetyn näköisiä.
User avatar #1134 to #1133 - iyr ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
You english has been perfect all the way up to "it's a bit same of the deal than"
#1135 to #1134 - soarinbolty **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
To be honest, I'm having a brainfart so hard that my brain doesn't allow to correct it or I just don't know how to.
User avatar #1136 to #1135 - iyr ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
Your english is very, very good, even if it's not your native language.
But since it's not you native language, grammatical mistakes are easily forgiven.

I'm having trouble distinguishing the difference between "DJ grade" and "hi-fi."
DJ equipment can't be hi-fi?
#1137 to #1136 - soarinbolty **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
Dj stuff is made to endure, to be portable, not to look good, sound dubiously good to ear and to have lots'a features.   
   
Hi-fi is purely for listening, looks great in your shelf, not too many buttons to confuse the user. The combination of great looks, materials and of course, sound, usually makes it expensive.
Dj stuff is made to endure, to be portable, not to look good, sound dubiously good to ear and to have lots'a features.

Hi-fi is purely for listening, looks great in your shelf, not too many buttons to confuse the user. The combination of great looks, materials and of course, sound, usually makes it expensive.
#1138 to #1137 - iyr ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
I dunno, I've seen some decent hi-fi dacs that were pretty ugly (although the essence one is pretty sexy).
Aesthetics and simplicity should always come after performance. Sometimes some companies spend too much budget on performance and have no room for nice looks or user friendliness. Not sure if the same rules apply to preamps as to dacs.
Anyone spending that much money on that kind of equipment should at least take five minutes to research it.
One reason why I've been reading up about opamps lately.
#1139 to #1138 - soarinbolty **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
I don't really know if I care about the sexiness of the preamp though, it's gonna be behind the shelf, though the pro-ject one would've prolly been better in compatibility with my pro-ject turntable.
User avatar #1140 to #1139 - iyr ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
Right, nice equipment should be about function not form.
If you don't like the way it looks, hide it behind the ficus.

I take it pro-ject doesn't daddle with digital equipment?
User avatar #1141 to #1140 - soarinbolty **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
Not quite sure what you mean.

Pro-ject products are very simple but very high quality in build and sound.

This is the turntable I have
http://project-audio.com/main.php?prod=debutcarbon&cat=turntables&lang=en

This was what I was supposed to order.
http://project-audio.com/main.php?prod=phonobox&cat=boxes&lang=en
User avatar #1142 to #1141 - iyr ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
Dat simplicity
User avatar #1143 to #1142 - soarinbolty **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
Ikr? I love it.

If you wanna go from 33 to 45 you have to lift the fucking heavy platter and move the belt manually, usually in consumer grade turntables you can't detach anything.
User avatar #1144 to #1143 - iyr ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
I thought rpm was adjusted with a switch nowadays. . .
Is manual adjustment more stable?
#1145 to #1144 - soarinbolty **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
Definitely is, no moving electronic parts to break and cost a fortune, plus that you can't change them yourself in most machines.

Even the tonearm is manual.

You can always get the Po-ject speedbox which changes the speed by altering the power input, which is better too because the belt it self is always on 33 giving it as less stress as possible.
#1150 to #1145 - iyr ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
Yeah, my Archos 5 needs a separate purchasable plugin to play m4a's and <1% of my music collection is m4a, so purchasing the plugin would be pointless.
It's the fact that they have the audacity to pull that crap.
#1151 to #1150 - soarinbolty **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
Wut.   
   
By the way, this Pioneer I have here can play Flac from a disc so I could make some pretty decent cds myself.
Wut.

By the way, this Pioneer I have here can play Flac from a disc so I could make some pretty decent cds myself.
User avatar #1148 to #1145 - iyr ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
It wouldn't be hard to integrate a pot into a turntable that could safely and easily adjust rpm. By the sound of it, that's exactly what that speedbox is, but the company is going to sell it as an independent component in order to get more money out of you.

Not saying the equipment is bad, but that kind of nickel-and-diming bugs me. Reminds me of archos.
#1149 to #1148 - soarinbolty **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
But the deal is, you don't need the speedbox, and in the more expensive models it's integrated.   
   
I'm pretty sure I don't need it because two of my 17 vinyls are 45 and the rest are 33 so I barely have to move it.
But the deal is, you don't need the speedbox, and in the more expensive models it's integrated.

I'm pretty sure I don't need it because two of my 17 vinyls are 45 and the rest are 33 so I barely have to move it.
#1146 to #1145 - iyr ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
I don't see why they couldn't have integrated a simple pot into the driving circuit of the motor.
#1147 to #1146 - soarinbolty **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
The speed switch was the first thing to ever break in my old sony.
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