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you don´t ask Russian what they feel - you tell them !
i live in belgium '(thats western urope for u muricans) and russia is completely right on this one.
The revolt was supported by the west same as in syria, the west has completely surrounded russia with military bases and now we want to take control of the buffer zone? the fuck we don't need this shit.
The entire point was for the west to stay west of poland and russia east of the ukrain
I also live in Belgium and say you're full of shit.
The most popular Flemish newspaper here in belgium (HLN) is constantly trashing Ukraine and is afraid to say anything against Russia.
So fuck your opinion
HLN is literaly the most retarded newspaper we have here, half their newsarticles are purely there to get facebook viewers to click the links with barely a trace of objective journalism
And i never said newspapers bash russia for their actions, but the general population here do side against russia on the subject
I agree about HLN, it's a horrible newspaper, but still the best selling one (sad but true) Still, a lot of people believe all Russian propaganda that there are NATO troops fighting alongside with the Ukrainian army etc.
I am against Russia on this one just because of the facts. For example just yesterday one of the two Russian opposition leaders (against Putin) was shot dead 200 meters from the Kremlin. Another one is now on trial for a crime that wasn't a crime before he was arrested. (They made a law especially for his trial)
Russia is not a country that is fair or democratic, and considering their previous wars and especially annexations (Belarus and Georgia come to mind) there is no reason to think that it's not the Kremlin that has started and is continuing this "civil war" were all of the leaders on the "Pro-Russian" side are from Russia and have never lived in Ukraine
Wel we do talk a lot of shit when it comes to russia, i've barely seen anyone belgian in antwerp that supports the russians.
Russia may not be the most democratic country but we here in the west always act as if democracy is the way to go, how democratic are we? On political matters the general public doesn't have shit to say, and in the US all politicians that rise high are backed by corporations, a good dictator will be better for his people than our corrupt politicians
And yes russia has made some agressive decisions, but the west completely destroyed the middle east so we don't really get to act all superior and peacefull.
And if you honestly believe the west didn't support the ukranian uprising you're a fool
Russians support it believing the massive propaganda campaign telling them they're fighting invasion from the west etc..
Long story short: russians think it's a war against USA and "filthy west"
Well ok. Most people i know and talked too all said the same: "Fuck Ukraine, leave them alone to do whatever they want. Just let us out of it." But i guess your sources are as good as mine and all russians actually want to fight capitalist pigs.
Well since USA and European union are financially suporting the Ukrainian government and the Ukrainian army it's kinda is a war against USA and west.
Please remember that Russia is not the only one using propaganda
i'm fairly certain that you are right
I'm fairly certain you are wrong. For the first time in history people died with EU flags in their hands fighting for european values. That's why west is supporting Ukraine, because Ukraine made a choice and Russia didn't like it.
Their is no such thing as European value
There*, to an averege amerifat there are no values besides mcdonalds
so go back to your church
mcdonalds that is
Actually I'm french
My apologies. In this case you don't see what EU is all about.
believe what you want. probably you are right. i don't even bother arguing about politics anymore. you can never be sure. my opinion is that russia is currently more in the right than the west. that is all
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