Right leather lamellar armor.

The Linothorax which i'm assuming you are refering to isn't actually known if it was made in leather or cloth but the name hints at it being cloth although there probably was versions made with either material.

mongol lamellar armor for anyone wondering.

Better picture with lamellar armor.

No idea but it clearly is a photo.

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Technically, it's 476 - 1453.

Then, 15th to end of 18th century is the modern period (renaissance, Columbian exchange, age of reason, enlightenment).

Then, I guess it is due to your poor American education that you do not understand the importance of the Renaissance in world history.

No, you idiot, it was not "only art lol srsly br8 wut r u saying?" There was a bit more to it than that.

For instance, the Italian acquisition of Greek philosophical texts and Roman literature (Plautus, Terence and Virgil mostly). These are new ideas, and they causally led to humanism, which is exactly why we call subjects like philosophy, history, politics, etc. "humanities".

And what the fuck does Justinian I have to fucking do with the Middle Ages, you troglodytic imbecile?

There's also the fact that I didn't mention the fucking Renaissance as a separate category, but set it up as part of the Modern Period. Why did you not comment on the enlightenment? Or the Columbian exchange? Do they not count because they're "only filozophy & comerse lol srsly br8 wut r u sayin"?

You should probably stick with explaining the internet, and keep away from philosophy. Google anything historians say about the middle ages and you will find they tend to either end it in 1453, 1492 or vaguely in the 15th century.

Okay, I'm sorry.

But you were wrong, and you ought to be man enough to admit it.

You're right about it not affecting most people in any way at the time, yet if a period in history has a great impact on the present it ought to be given at least some emphasis.

At the very least, it could be considered "medieval" still, but I cannot accept that such 17th century thinkers as Leibniz, Descartes or Newton can be said to be anything but Modern.

I usually trace the beginning of the Modern Period with these three: humanities in philosophy, cultural revolution (what we generally mean by "renaissance") and the scientific method. In my view, what you describe as the end of the middle ages, is in fact the end of the modern period and the beginning of the contemporary era.

We did.

Have a good day.

Yes i do , but that doesn't change that over the majority of the time nobody wore actuall leather armor. What had been interpreted as leather armor most of the times where the studded leather armor - which are metal plates fixed on the intirior of a leather west.
SImply said the leather was merely the fixing materiell for the plates and even this type of armor was only used for a very short ammount of time .
And thats for a simple reason. If leather tears , thorugh either combat or day to day stuff , it is pretty hard to repair whereas gamberson was rather easily to repair because it was just loin.

For the same reason why the roman army switched from mail to plate then back again to mail. Plate is harder to repair and is time consuming to keep it intackt and clean , wheres mail is easier to produce and by far easier to repair on the battlefield.

Actually Gambesons were probably used by 10th century by various people but only became widespread in europe by 13th century.

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Farewell.

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When you mean leather armor in which form do you mean it?

Right leather lamellar armor.

The Linothorax which i'm assuming you are refering to isn't actually known if it was made in leather or cloth but the name hints at it being cloth although there probably was versions made with either material.

mongol lamellar armor for anyone wondering.

Better picture with lamellar armor.

No idea but it clearly is a photo.

Woulden't higher nobility have cloth gambesons under their mail since Mail with padding under it is immensly more protective than just regular mail?

Also I think you are giving leather too much credit.

Thas bullshit. Nearly everyone wore Gambersone because it is not only by far cheaper to make but also more resistend to most form of attacks.
That biker leather fetish wear we are seeing everywhere in todays movie is just a product made up by hollywood.

Technically, it's 476 - 1453.

Then, 15th to end of 18th century is the modern period (renaissance, Columbian exchange, age of reason, enlightenment).

Then, I guess it is due to your poor American education that you do not understand the importance of the Renaissance in world history.

No, you idiot, it was not "only art lol srsly br8 wut r u saying?" There was a bit more to it than that.

For instance, the Italian acquisition of Greek philosophical texts and Roman literature (Plautus, Terence and Virgil mostly). These are new ideas, and they causally led to humanism, which is exactly why we call subjects like philosophy, history, politics, etc. "humanities".

And what the fuck does Justinian I have to fucking do with the Middle Ages, you troglodytic imbecile?

There's also the fact that I didn't mention the fucking Renaissance as a separate category, but set it up as part of the Modern Period. Why did you not comment on the enlightenment? Or the Columbian exchange? Do they not count because they're "only filozophy & comerse lol srsly br8 wut r u sayin"?

You should probably stick with explaining the internet, and keep away from philosophy. Google anything historians say about the middle ages and you will find they tend to either end it in 1453, 1492 or vaguely in the 15th century.

Okay, I'm sorry.

But you were wrong, and you ought to be man enough to admit it.

You're right about it not affecting most people in any way at the time, yet if a period in history has a great impact on the present it ought to be given at least some emphasis.

At the very least, it could be considered "medieval" still, but I cannot accept that such 17th century thinkers as Leibniz, Descartes or Newton can be said to be anything but Modern.

I usually trace the beginning of the Modern Period with these three: humanities in philosophy, cultural revolution (what we generally mean by "renaissance") and the scientific method. In my view, what you describe as the end of the middle ages, is in fact the end of the modern period and the beginning of the contemporary era.

We did.

Have a good day.

Yes i do , but that doesn't change that over the majority of the time nobody wore actuall leather armor. What had been interpreted as leather armor most of the times where the studded leather armor - which are metal plates fixed on the intirior of a leather west.
SImply said the leather was merely the fixing materiell for the plates and even this type of armor was only used for a very short ammount of time .
And thats for a simple reason. If leather tears , thorugh either combat or day to day stuff , it is pretty hard to repair whereas gamberson was rather easily to repair because it was just loin.

For the same reason why the roman army switched from mail to plate then back again to mail. Plate is harder to repair and is time consuming to keep it intackt and clean , wheres mail is easier to produce and by far easier to repair on the battlefield.

Actually Gambesons were probably used by 10th century by various people but only became widespread in europe by 13th century.

Well that is true

And is't that just sad?

Well that is true

Oh it's no use, I'll always miss everything anyway.

Oh it's no use, I'll always miss everything anyway.